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4681  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Who will reserve CeeKay.xxx first? on: June 28, 2010, 08:18:54 PM
This is a good thing, and if anything, I believe it will lead to LESS porn, at least within the regular domains. It should also be easier to set up filters to block porn sites and avoid such sites just by glancing at the url. Considering that more than 100 000 people and/or companies are already in line for purchasing domain names in the .xxx domain, we're going to see a lot of traffic move there pretty quickly.
4682  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: June 28, 2010, 04:48:01 PM
That's brilliant. Particularly the Zork one. smile
4683  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: older games from steam, work on windows 7 65 bit? (discples 2, etc.) ;) on: June 28, 2010, 03:05:30 PM
I'm sorry. If you have a 65-bit system, I'm afraid you won't find many games that work with it. If you have a 64-bit system however, all bets are off. slywink
4684  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (06/28) on: June 28, 2010, 06:26:22 AM
Nothing, but only because I'm in the process of moving.
4685  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [ps3] demon's souls impressions on: June 28, 2010, 04:22:52 AM
Sounds like that strategy guide is trying to make the game unfun for you. I think I won't be following its advice when I eventually get the game.
4686  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Alizee -- (NSFVCW... not suitable for very conservative workplaces) on: June 27, 2010, 07:57:43 PM

Quote from: WinoMcCougarstein on June 27, 2010, 07:25:57 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 27, 2010, 06:54:08 PM


That... doesn't even look like the same person.

I don't think it is.
4687  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: #new? on: June 27, 2010, 04:40:33 PM
Solution: Use a real browser.

slywink
4688  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: #new? on: June 27, 2010, 10:26:00 AM
I'm not seeing this behavior in Opera. Tried restarting the browser? It could be stuck in a popup window with the "#new" identificator.
4689  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Someone hijacked my WoW account...long on: June 27, 2010, 07:31:07 AM

Quote from: jersoc on June 27, 2010, 06:44:52 AM

Quote from: KePoW on June 27, 2010, 12:49:19 AM

Shrug, you guys are obviously convinced, so there's no reason to talk about it further.  Only thing I'll say again, is that in every other MMO I've played, when people get hacked a lot of them are also fully convinced that there was no possible way they did anything wrong.  Doesn't mean it's true.

Anyway, since yall hate Blizzard and battle.net because of this, I hope none of you are planning on playing Diablo 3.  Cause it's gonna be the same system.

this is what i said way back when. it's 100% the person's fault. either they choose a weak password, they went to a fishing site whatever.

it's 100% the account holders fault. even if you don't have a current wow account and use bnet get an auth. on your account. that is 99.9% hack proof. if you get hacked using one chances are it's blizzard's fault then.

if you don't use one, you have no one to blame but yourself. no sympathy what so ever. the auth is free for almost every current major phone out there or the price of shipping. blizzard makes no profit off selling them. you pay for shipping.

sorry you guys don't want to hear it. but you got hacked, it's your fault. you can only dipshit proof so much.

What the fuck are you talking about? The authenticater was released YEARS after I stopped playing, and I never logged in during that time. Of course, you were barely coherent in your post, so perhaps you just failed to bring your point across in a readable manner? One can always hope.

4690  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Someone hijacked my WoW account...long on: June 26, 2010, 09:19:24 PM

Quote from: KePoW on June 26, 2010, 09:12:44 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 26, 2010, 09:05:29 PM

Yeah you are, sort of. I wasn't hacked. Blizzard was hacked. There's a HUGE difference between those two.

Ok, so we're just making the assumption that the changed password/account-info was not due to anything on your end.  That may or may not be true... maybe you're right, it's just not something anyone can say with 100% certainty.

In any case though, even if we go along with your scenario, lots of other online companies have gotten hacked too (not just Blizzard).  For every MMO game out there, you can find plenty of players who have gotten their account messed up, that *insist* it was not their fault.  So it's not just Blizzard games where that happens.

Well, if you have any good theories as to how someone could get access to my account that hadn't been used in years, then be my guest. And if you can explain how there was a sudden wave of these reports for WoW, bonus points to you.

Yes, other companies can get hacked, and it occasionally happens. The difference is that every time this has happened to other companies that I've even heard of, these companies promptly issued public statements about the incident and what caused it. Blizzard seems to have only looked at the problem as a chance to sell additional security layers to secure their own systems. Frankly, it pisses me off.
4691  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Someone hijacked my WoW account...long on: June 26, 2010, 09:05:29 PM

Quote from: KePoW on June 26, 2010, 09:04:28 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 26, 2010, 07:41:48 PM

Quote from: KePoW on June 26, 2010, 07:35:24 PM

What are all you guys suggesting?  That you know for sure it's a Blizzard inside job?  I find that hard to believe.  I've never been hacked nor any of my friends, and we have all had accounts since launch.  Obviously that's a small sample size, but so are you guys.

The only thing I'm suggesting is that my account has been stolen and that it's not my fault, nor was it stolen through hacking my computer or by observing some kind of transaction between my computer and Blizzard (as I haven't played the game in years).

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that it's Blizzard's fault, and Blizzard's fault alone, that my account is now gone forever. I don't care if this happens with everyone, with 50%, or with just one person. It should NEVER happen, particularly not with a company the size of Blizzard.

What should never happen?  Someone getting hacked in any MMO?  Because no matter how big or small a MMO, some player has gotten hacked in every single online game out there.

Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

Yeah you are, sort of. I wasn't hacked. Blizzard was hacked. There's a HUGE difference between those two.
4692  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Someone hijacked my WoW account...long on: June 26, 2010, 07:41:48 PM

Quote from: KePoW on June 26, 2010, 07:35:24 PM

What are all you guys suggesting?  That you know for sure it's a Blizzard inside job?  I find that hard to believe.  I've never been hacked nor any of my friends, and we have all had accounts since launch.  Obviously that's a small sample size, but so are you guys.

The only thing I'm suggesting is that my account has been stolen and that it's not my fault, nor was it stolen through hacking my computer or by observing some kind of transaction between my computer and Blizzard (as I haven't played the game in years).

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that it's Blizzard's fault, and Blizzard's fault alone, that my account is now gone forever. I don't care if this happens with everyone, with 50%, or with just one person. It should NEVER happen, particularly not with a company the size of Blizzard.

4693  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: True Blood Season 3 (spoilers) on: June 26, 2010, 04:20:55 PM

Quote from: Teggy on June 26, 2010, 03:28:06 PM

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on June 26, 2010, 02:41:41 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 26, 2010, 01:14:57 PM

Quote from: rittchard on June 21, 2010, 05:46:44 PM

Still I enjoyed the (brief) Godric flashback (I still say I'd love an Eric and Godric prequel series, really seems like they've had the most interesting vampire lives) and shape-shifting/stripping scenes.

I get a bit distracted by Godric's dialect during those scenes. He speaks Swedish occasionally, and while he does an admirable job at it it's still clear he's no Swede.

He isn't supposed to be Swedish, right? I thought he might be Egyptian, although I can't remember for sure.

I thought they were Norwegian?

Edit: Eric is supposed to be Norwegian, but I now realize you are talking about Godric. Turns out the actor is a Dane, which might account for his accent while speaking Swedish.

If they're Norwegian, that would be very surprising, particularly since neither of them has ever mentioned Norway nor spoken Norwegian. They both speak Swedish regularly though.
4694  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Someone hijacked my WoW account...long on: June 26, 2010, 03:13:21 PM
I haven't really played WoW since the first year after it was launched, but I tried logging into it just to see if I was affected. I can't remember the login details, but I have a very systematic way of dealing with passwords and usernames, and I don't get trojans or keyloggers or anything like that, nor do I open phishing emails.

Still, no matter what combination of usernames and passwords I used, I couldn't log in. Trying to recover my account based on my email address failed as well. At this point it doesn't look like there's any way for me to recover my account, which indicates it has probably been hacked. I really don't care whether I've lost the account or not (I'll never play WoW again), but this is beyond amateurish by Blizzard. Because their systems were hacked into somehow, I'm now subject to 10-15 WoW-related spam emails every day. Thank you Blizzard! I guess it's a good thing I'm no big fan of your games (Diablo excluded).
4695  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: True Blood Season 3 (spoilers) on: June 26, 2010, 01:14:57 PM

Quote from: rittchard on June 21, 2010, 05:46:44 PM

Still I enjoyed the (brief) Godric flashback (I still say I'd love an Eric and Godric prequel series, really seems like they've had the most interesting vampire lives) and shape-shifting/stripping scenes.

I get a bit distracted by Godric's dialect during those scenes. He speaks Swedish occasionally, and while he does an admirable job at it it's still clear he's no Swede.

Both episodes so far have been really enjoyable. I didn't think they had any dull moments at all, but then again, I'm not expecting action at every point.
4696  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo 3DS or Nintendo's 3D House of DS on: June 25, 2010, 06:08:03 AM
If you thought that was nifty, have a look at how ClearType in Windows works. smile
4697  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: LOTRO 60 day gamecards $5.99! on: June 24, 2010, 09:46:38 AM
Daehawk, I recommend actually reading up on what that entails for the game before drawing the conclusion that "Free to Play" means "Free to play the entire game".

On the other hand, are we sure that these cards are going to be valid once F2P hits? I seem to recall reading something about this. VIP memberships may not end up being compatible with these cards for all we know.
4698  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Program to erase harddrives before recycle? on: June 22, 2010, 08:31:30 PM

Quote from: LoneStarSpur on June 22, 2010, 08:16:41 PM

I ran across this Windows command line trick.

cipher /W:C:\Path\To\Folder

This one doesn't sound very secure. For one thing it doesn't say what it overwrites the data with. Is it random values (and what randomization algorithm is it using?) or just 1 or 0? Does it overwrite the data just once? A file must be overwritten with truly random values at least 5 times to make it virtually impossible to retrieve. Cipher also doesn't seem to overwrite blank space, which could contain just about any type of data. It's hard to say though as the information shown on that page is limited.
4699  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: June 22, 2010, 06:47:12 PM

Quote from: MaxSteele on June 22, 2010, 06:34:29 PM

I know code can be small, but I personally believe there's more to this than 12 megs of space to make it all happen.  New co-op mode available,

Code. Takes no space worth mentioning.

Quote
the net coding used, etc...  

Still code. You'd need to code a pretty damn huge and complex game to pass 12 MB in compiled code, FYI.

Quote
I have a problem when a company touts "Free DLC!  We're giving you more content for no extra cost!" and then it's already programmed and on the disc.  

Voiceovers, music and art may already be on the disc. That has nothing to do with programming. Code is small and easily distributable.

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Content that has already been created but is time-locked to look like they're giving you something extra.  It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

We have no basis upon which to make the claims you're making. Unless they somehow reveal their entire development schedule you'd probably not be satisfied with any DLC unless it's at least several hundred MB in size, and even if the art assets were ready long before the code. You're digging yourself into a hole you'll never be able to leave in a satisfied way.
4700  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: June 22, 2010, 06:02:08 PM

Quote from: MaxSteele on June 22, 2010, 05:52:01 PM

There is no way six new missions are set up in the game along with all of the new challenges for only 12 megabytes of space.

Why not? I don't know much about this DLC, but does it include new voiceovers? New music? If it does, these things were probably ready way before the code itself, so they could put them on the disc before the game's release even if the missions themselves weren't finished. If not, there's no reason why it shouldn't take up only 12 MB. Code doesn't take up a lot of space, even in the most complex of games.
4701  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Resident Evil: Revelations on: June 22, 2010, 03:22:23 PM
Resident Evil: Revelations is the new RE-game coming out for the 3DS. A trailer was just released on GameTrailers, so I thought it would be a good idea to start a topic about the game.

If these graphics are actually in-game, I think the 3DS is going to rock hard. And a DS game with voiceovers and cinematics? Wow, I can't wait! smile
4702  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo 3DS or Nintendo's 3D House of DS on: June 22, 2010, 02:47:27 PM

Quote from: farley2k on June 22, 2010, 02:26:48 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 22, 2010, 06:29:51 AM

My prediction is $249 for the bare-bones version, and a bundle version for $299 with a memory card and a game.

Why would they want to have their first failure in years?  To price a handheld the same as a full console - that can play DVDs, music, has facebook, online games, etc. - would be a big failure.  It just wouldn't work. 

I disagree. The sales numbers would be lower, but they'd earn lots more per console sold. They're also in a near monopoly situation for handheld consoles when this thing is released, so it's easier for them to charge a high price.

Watching the latest Pach Attack on GameTrailers, it seems Pachter agrees with me that the price is going to be above $200.
4703  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Assassins Creed 2 - 360 or PS3? on: June 22, 2010, 01:43:09 PM
I don't think there was much difference between the two versions at all.
4704  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo 3DS or Nintendo's 3D House of DS on: June 22, 2010, 06:29:51 AM
Michael Pachter commented that Nintendo probably realized in hindsight that they sold the Wii too cheap, so don't be surprised if you see the 3DS costing more than the most expensive DS. The 3D screen isn't cheap to produce either, and Nintendo has a policy of not selling hardware at a loss (unlike Sony and Microsoft).

My prediction is $249 for the bare-bones version, and a bundle version for $299 with a memory card and a game.

4705  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo 3DS or Nintendo's 3D House of DS on: June 21, 2010, 03:33:54 PM
There's a lot of nifty stuff you can do with this device, according to that chart. However, you should keep in mind that there's no way you can use all of those features at once and keep a usable framerate. I'd be surprised if you can even use more than half at the same time.
4706  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Hobbit finds a director on: June 21, 2010, 07:57:19 AM

Quote from: Sarkus on June 21, 2010, 07:38:51 AM

Quote from: TiLT on June 20, 2010, 08:46:14 PM

Quote from: Flatlander on June 20, 2010, 07:10:08 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 19, 2010, 08:48:04 PM

could Neil Blomkamp be the new directot plus some other rumors.

Whoever they pick,  they need to make a decision soon if they want any hope of releasing this thing before 2013

They have bigger problems than picking the director if they want to get the movies out by then.

Outside of the MGM financing issue, all signs indicate they will be ready to start filming by the end of this year.  Del Toro moved to New Zealand back in 2008; pre-production has been going on since.  That puts the first film in theatres by the end of 2012 or so.

The MGM financing issue is what I'm talking about. If that doesn't get resolved soon, we may not even see a Hobbit movie, at least not for a long while.
4707  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Finally completed Sam & Max Season 1 on: June 21, 2010, 04:29:38 AM
This was one of the main criticisms of season 1 (as well as the season not being wacky enough), and both those were fixed for season 2.
4708  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Hobbit finds a director on: June 20, 2010, 08:46:14 PM

Quote from: Flatlander on June 20, 2010, 07:10:08 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 19, 2010, 08:48:04 PM

could Neil Blomkamp be the new directot plus some other rumors.

Whoever they pick,  they need to make a decision soon if they want any hope of releasing this thing before 2013

They have bigger problems than picking the director if they want to get the movies out by then.
4709  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: X-Com Returns to the PC on: June 20, 2010, 04:49:55 PM

Quote from: Blackjack on June 20, 2010, 04:34:12 PM

It seems now to be shaping up like a pretty intriguing, small-squad (3-person teams) tactical shooter though I remain unconvinced the game really needed the XCOM name attached to it.

I would think the question isn't whether or not it needed the X-Com name, but whether or not it deserved it. Time will tell.
4710  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Program to erase harddrives before recycle? on: June 19, 2010, 09:48:21 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on June 19, 2010, 08:59:53 PM

dban's the way to go.  eraser's better for secure file erase, though I don't know how well either works with ssd's.

From what I've been told, secure shredding of files on SSDs is a waste of time. Unlike on a regular HD, deleting a file on an SSD leaves it permanently removed.
4711  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Lord of the Rings Online enters the Third Ag- um.... Year. on: June 18, 2010, 06:51:48 AM

Quote from: ydejin on June 18, 2010, 06:45:37 AM

Quote from: TiLT on June 18, 2010, 06:42:47 AM

One nice thing about the new scalable instances that I started thinking about: If people will be able to do level 65 versions of Carn Dum and Urugarth, it should become easier for newer players to get their class items (few level 65 players will have need of the Putrid Slime of Helchgam for example, except to put up at the AH) at level 50. This should benefit everyone. smile

IIRC putrid slime and other class quest items are no also available as skirmish rewards.

Yeah, but they are very expensive. For about the same amount of skirmish marks you can get a Scroll of Empowerment, which currently sells for 12 gold on my server.
4712  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Lord of the Rings Online enters the Third Ag- um.... Year. on: June 18, 2010, 06:42:47 AM
One nice thing about the new scalable instances that I started thinking about: If people will be able to do level 65 versions of Carn Dum and Urugarth, it should become easier for newer players to get their class items (few level 65 players will have need of the Putrid Slime of Helchgam for example, except to put up at the AH) at level 50. This should benefit everyone. smile
4713  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Lord of the Rings Online enters the Third Ag- um.... Year. on: June 17, 2010, 08:38:09 AM
Two things I liked from that article: The raids as skirmishes thing is a welcome change. The Rift and Helegrod have become way too low level to be challenging any more unless you go in with a smaller group, and then things get a little unpredictable. Now I can have the opportunity to see Helegrod for myself (never got into any raid groups for it. It requires 24 people!).

The other thing I like is the raid equipment as cosmetics. I've been using two pieces of the Rift captain gear as cosmetics for ages now because they look better than anything else I've found. Being able to get these turned into cosmetic items (either by a direct conversion which I'm not sure will be available, or by just earning them again somehow) will be nice, particularly since that will allow me to put them into the new wardrobe and thus save vault space. smile
4714  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Super Street Fighter IV on: June 17, 2010, 04:53:05 AM

Quote from: KePoW on June 17, 2010, 02:05:50 AM

Quote from: pr0ner on June 17, 2010, 01:29:02 AM

Just as a heads up, you can buy the 2-disc soundtrack for Street Fighter IV (vanilla) for $7.95 + shipping from Screen Archives.

And yes, I bought it.   thumbsup

Um wtf... I was about to order this, but I don't see "INDESTRUCTIBLE" on it???

How could they leave that off, that's the best song?

eek

You should go talk to a doctor, KePoW. It could be serious.
4715  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Lord of the Rings: War in the North on: June 17, 2010, 04:47:07 AM
It looks like some of you are using the changes in the movies to justify the use of a human wizard in this game. These are changes of two widely different magnitudes. The movies mostly made changes to the plotting, such as which character was where at what time, or replacing something that would be confusing in the movie with something else (the Rangers were replaced with elves). When it made up new stuff it was all within the realm of the LOTR lore, such as the big bad Uruk-hai in Fellowship of the Ring. Adding a spellcaster isn't a minor change. In fact, it completely destroys one of the core concepts of the setting and the entire ending of the books. Humans are supposed to be non-magical, and magic is leaving the world. Elves on the other hand are magical beings, making it easier to justify placing a spellcaster among them, yet that's not what I think they did here. Even if they did, there are no examples of such elves in the books, nor are there hints that there could be anyone like that.
4716  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [E3] Deus Ex: Human Revolution on: June 16, 2010, 09:03:42 PM
I've got one question: 2027? Seriously? The sci-fi vistas in this game are supposed to be 17 years into the future? Uhm... I guess I should file this game under "fantasy". Not that it affects the gameplay in any way, but it does reduce immersion by a huge factor, at least for me.
4717  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo 3DS or Nintendo's 3D House of DS on: June 16, 2010, 08:56:47 PM
There's only one thing that's bothering me: From the pictures, it looks like the 3DS is noticeably thicker than the DS Lite. It almost looks like the DS Phat in some of them. I hope it was just the photos or the lightning.
4718  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo 3DS or Nintendo's 3D House of DS on: June 16, 2010, 07:42:55 PM
No matter the release date, I'm going to preorder this thing as soon as I can. smile
4719  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dead Space 2 on: June 16, 2010, 06:45:12 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on June 16, 2010, 06:22:20 PM

i never played Dead Space...maybe I should

You should. It's like a sci-fi Resident Evil 4 that is more scary.
4720  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: XBOX Kinect on: June 16, 2010, 06:44:01 PM

Quote from: jblank on June 16, 2010, 06:31:39 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 16, 2010, 05:36:13 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 16, 2010, 05:09:49 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 16, 2010, 03:18:16 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 16, 2010, 02:55:47 PM

Quote from: Destructor on June 16, 2010, 02:50:55 PM

Microsoft totally bombed at E3. If I wanted to do the 'real life' things that Kinetc does, I'll just go into REAL LIFE and do it.

yeah!  if I wanted to whip out my lightsaber and fight Darth Vader I'd just give him a ring and we could go down to the park!  he could bring his fried chicken pot pie.

 Tongue

I thought the lightsaber combat references were funny back when the Wii was new, and I think they're funny now. I simply can't see any way in which lightsaber combat can be done with this kind of technology without making the whole thing seem completely stupid. Few of us can fence in the first place, and the Star Wars battles have always been really fast-paced (perhaps with the exception of the battle between Vader and Obi-Wan in Episode 4). Being able to wave a lightsaber around is one thing. Being able to actually fight with it is another. I simply don't think it can be done in a satisfying way.


None of these games are meant to be a lightsaber simulator, though.  They are meant to be a fun experience that makes you feel like you're weilding a lightsaber.  That should not be as hard to do.

Doesn't matter. There's no way they can even evoke the feeling of wielding a lightsaber with this tech. You'll just end up looking clumsy while you try to translate your movements to your avatar, and you'll get confused when your avatar's weapon meets resistance which you don't, leading to you being out of sync.

It's never going to work like you imagine in your dreams. This is the big failing of these control systems. Everyone seems to want a swordfighting game, but the fact that we still haven't seen anything halfway decent on that front should be a big hint in itself. The Kinetic doesn't do anything with swords that the Wii couldn't do, so I don't see why you're expecting things to change now.



Post of the fucking MILLENNIUM! Tilt, you sir are 100% correct. Listen to this man people, he just explained what I have been feeling and trying to say, since 2006. It isn't that motion control is necessarily a bad idea, it just doesn't have the correct feel and sensation, and likely won't for many, many years.

That's not really what I'm saying. It works well for certain things like gold and bowling, but less well for more unpredictable actions where your avatar can't be in full control of his movement (such as when hitting the opponent's blade or armor, or even a wall, in a swordfight).
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