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161  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: We had a moment of weakness... on: July 09, 2012, 02:16:31 AM
I'm going with my rule of 'never let newegg ship you a replacement of anything'

From a manufacturer RMA, sure. FROM THE MANUFACTURER... but the 'egg has a bunch of trained sock puppets doing the equivalent of 'hmm, it looks ok so it must be ok... sell it again'.

When I shipped a gtx 560ti back to them previously, specifically noting the problem (it had a bad fan... ramp it over 50% or so and it started ticking like crazy... basically a big red flag that the fan was going to go bad, and annoying as hell as soon as you fired up a decent game)... they restocked it and charged me the 10% saying 'no problem found'.

If they can't find the problem when I specifically tell them what the problem is, and how to replicate it, then they don't WANT to find the problem.

So sanity has prevailed, for now. With a little help :/

162  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: We had a moment of weakness... on: July 07, 2012, 12:34:41 PM
Or the card could start generating corruption on a regular basis, two weeks in. Did some testing, but it appears the card is dieing.

Back it goes. 'Old Reliable' is back in its slot, and doing its thing.

Will be returning for refund. 'Egg is infamous for sending out used replacements that it thinks there is nothing wrong with.

163  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: We had a moment of weakness... on: June 29, 2012, 06:10:48 AM
Actually, I'm really liking the framerate targeting feature than evga's Precision X software features.

Give the card extra power budget, set 60fps target, turn off vsync in your game, and personally I turn on triple buffering because it prevents any image tearing you might get, and presto. Instant, smooth, 60 fps gameplay, with little variation if your card is strong enough that it normally runs higher than that.

In particular, World of Tanks is behaving very very nicely with this configuration.... and no overclocking was necessary. I set the extra power budget to insure the card didn't try to boost and then throttle, if the scenes got complex with additional tanks, for instance. Given how overbuilt the card is, I'm not concerned at all... and I'm pretty sure the extra 1/3rd power budget is 'safe', after reading around, and having both P-X and MSI's Afterburner offer this level.

164  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: We had a moment of weakness... on: June 28, 2012, 07:54:49 PM
Yeah it works. I get a zero smile


(apparently it's a bug in the latest patch with d3)
165  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: We had a moment of weakness... on: June 28, 2012, 08:32:52 AM
Oh and for the record, it'll do 1.4 GHz with very little fiddling. Haven't tried more yet. Seems terribly unnecessary atm.

166  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: We had a moment of weakness... on: June 28, 2012, 06:08:29 AM
1: BIG. Not a little big. BIG big. Just shy of not fitting in my Antec three hundred case big. Part of the card up into the drive bays big.

2: Quiet. Very very quiet. It CAN get loud, but it hasn't done so while gaming yet. It's on the same level as my GTX260 SOC, which is extremely tolerable until the fans ramp up above 60% or so.

3: Temps are much cooler. Loaded temp on the GTX260 could hit 92C... 680 is tons cooler. Idles at (started at 30c, ramped up from there. After exiting gaming, etc, it's back down to 35-36c... ambient should be at or around 25c) (remember, this is also inside my fairly crowded case which I HAVE optimized for cooling as best possible)

4: WoT now running at 120 fps base. Need to fuss with my CPU and see what that can do. (WoT is fairly cpu limited for some reason).. my cpu currently at 3.6 GHz with no turbo enabled. If you'll recall from my previous threads, the GTX260 ran World of Tanks at a rough base of 70 fps in this computer, so basically added about 40% to the framerate by swapping up, with no other changes.

5: Diablo 3 doesn't display framerate atm. Getting a zero. Expect it will be quite high.

Reasons I bought it? GTX260 getting long in the tooth. And tbh, glad to get that fireball out of the case. It was made to work at those temps, but it made everything else that much warmer. Plus I was getting occasional gpu resets which I'm attributing to age + temperature... although at least a couple of those resets occurred at the desktop. The SOC units are rather massively overclocked... 576 MHz base speed, and the unit we have came from the factory at 680. It's actually faster than a stock GTX 275. Also throw in DirectX 9/10/11 compatibility and performance and my relatively recent upgrade to a 1920x1200 display, at which level the 260 was starting to suffer.

Reason I bought it over a stock GTX 680? Massively overbuilt. Backplate, oversized fans,  extra copper, 'military class' msi branding. Basically, quality, quality, quality. Plus the extra clocks right in the bios don't hurt one bit. I've never ever ever owned a card this far ahead of the curve.

Worth the money?  A relative statement. The card is worth 600$ as much as any gpu might be. Basically, it's a toy. A toy that ought to last me two years, but a toy nevertheless. If you don't want to spend 600$, but might consider spending 400$, take a look at the GTX 670 Power Edition, also from MSI. Same concept as the lightning, but on the 670 framework. Even uses the same backplate. Fans aren't quite as big though... biggrin


167  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Powerline problems on: June 25, 2012, 04:21:11 AM
Sounds like you have noise on the line NOT coming from the air conditioning.

Cellphone chargers are notorious for this.

Tell us more about your setup.


PS: A powerline surge could theoretically have damaged one or both of your units. Also I don't know how they work for signal filtration, if any... as a comparison, the little DSL filters you have to install between a DSL enabled phone line and any POTS equipment installed... those wear out. When they wear out you start getting real connectivity issues with the DSL end for some reason. Which is weird, because you would think that the only result would be that you start hearing noise on the POTS equipment due to the filter being blown...but no, the DSL equipment will start having issues as WELL as having noise on your phone.
168  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: We had a moment of weakness... on: June 22, 2012, 08:25:48 AM
If you running mult-imonitor resolutions it can start to make a difference. *innocent whistle*

169  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / We had a moment of weakness... on: June 22, 2012, 08:01:43 AM

It was my elbow, I swear! I turned to look at the cat and when I looked back....

Thank you for shopping at

We are happy to inform you that your order (Sales Order Number: xxxxxxxxx) has been successfully charged to your Bill Me Later and order verification is now complete.

It's not my fault!

But since the damage is already done, now I just have to figure out how to pay for it in between everything else...

Did I mention my water heater developed a leak and is 17 years old? (11 years in the box though, only 6 installed... the water heater is relatively fine, but the fittings above it started leaking because the contractor cheaped out during the installation. Plumber won't touch it without replacing it, and after his explanation I understand why. (scenario: plumber replaces plumbing, and three months later, the X year old waterheater craps out and dumps water all over someones house. They scream at plumber to 'come fix your screwup'. So he doesn't touch anything over 6-8 years old without full replacement.)).

Yeesh. Seriously though, I've been sorta waiting for the 'perfect' gpu for me, and this is as close as it comes, at least lately.

Thought about getting a gtx 670 power edition, but it wasn't quite enough to overcome my 'trying to be good' mentality.

Then these popped up.

Basically, they're MSI's answer to Gigabytes Superoverclock series. With bells on.

Oh, for reference in the review. The GTX 260 isn't listed, so, roughly, the HD5770, which is.


170  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: HDMI Sound on PC Help Needed on: June 07, 2012, 08:31:00 PM
Think of it as an opportunity to invest in some nice speakers, as opposed to settling for whatever crap they include in your monitor bezel.

The port on your display is probably a pass-through. Try hooking your speakers to that, or you could just hook straight to the sound card (remember to set the sound outputs properly)


(woops, looks like I'm a little redundant here. but perhaps some additional clarity.)

(quick thought: would it be standard stereo out on the pass-through, or is it digital sound, which would make hooking it to a set of speakers more complex?)
171  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: building a combination Linux media server/mythTV and Windows gaming machine on: May 27, 2012, 10:22:01 AM
SFF, so mini-itx?

I used a Silverstone SG06.. (though with the 300 watt sfx power supply) to build my mom's mini. She likes it, and it's nice that it doesn't take up a ton of space. Any GPU installed will have fairly nice ventilation from the fairly open side perforations, although I might tinker with the fannage if i were going to install a high power gpu.

That one has the upgraded PSU.. be sure to choose it, rather than the older variant, for a gaming machine, if you plan to utilize a modern gpu.

Be warned that most slim optical drives, will utilize a micro sata connector cluster. You'll need a converter to connect it.

Be sure to do some research on the available power connectors from the psu as well. Believe the 300 watt psu has 1 pci-e connector, iirc.

172  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Recomend a Free DVD Decorder on: May 24, 2012, 08:15:19 PM

The only thing you need for... well.. almost anything. And it doesn't install a crapload of ... stuff... on your computer, either. Slim and trim.

Now.. if you want a more home theater experience... try

173  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: nVidia GTX 680 - GTX 690 & GTX 670 join the club on: May 16, 2012, 05:33:47 AM

Quote from: Misguided on May 15, 2012, 02:28:41 PM

Quote from: Zinfan on May 15, 2012, 12:14:45 AM

Well looks like the 670 is the card I've been waiting for, just ordered one from Newegg for $399.  Should be a slight step up from the ati 4870 that I have in there now.

Not seeing what makes it so special. Toms had it running hotter and louder than the 680.

Well, it's 95% of the performance at 80% of the cost, is the part that's making it worthwhile.

They could have made the cooling system more quiet, though. But all you have to do to fix that, is get a card with an aftermarket cooler.

I'm sensing an MSI PC (power and cooling?) edition soon. Basically, with a switch to either run in OC mode, or in Silent mode.

I had really good luck with my Gigabyte built GTX 260 SOC (super overclock) edition... although it is gifted with a 'stock' cooler, rather than one of their new windforce setups, which I felt was a little flimsy on the gtx 560ti that I ordered once upon a time and returned. (defective fan). (GB gifted it with a bios tuned for silence)

174  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: What is it with DVD drives in my system? on: May 12, 2012, 10:39:46 PM
Any revelations from the testing? Really curious as to what your results were, as this problem crops up on a fairly regular basis in one variant or another, so anything I can do to refine the troubleshooting lets me do it better for others, not to mention myself.

175  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: nVidia GTX 680 - GTX 690 joins the club on: May 08, 2012, 01:10:41 AM
I hate being broke. There was an Asus branded gtx 680 in stock at newegg earlier. It even has the 499$ msrp pricing. I had to let it slide. For now.

The good news is my gtx 260 is holding up remarkably well with everything I currently play. World of Tanks (which hardly strains it), TERA, which plays nicely in spite of what should be moderate strain, Skyrim, which does ok, etc etc etc.

* TheAtomicKid soldiers on.

PS: /me has pondered the gtx 580 route... can get them as cheaply as 389$ these days.
176  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Quiet but Deadly (Now with build pics) on: May 07, 2012, 06:13:04 AM
Out of curiosity, how's your samsung ssd holding up? If you noticed in the thread here...

I posted some comments about my own experience.

177  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Building a new rig on: May 06, 2012, 12:09:32 AM
I liked the RPS articles, appreciate the link.

CPU choice, solid. Mobo choice, decent, ASUS not my favorite, but the price is definitely economical. Ram, I'm a Corsair guy myself (but I do like Patriot USB flash drives, no reason to doubt their ram products),and yes, 8GB is PLENTY of ram, unless you have something particualr in mind.  GPU choice is decent, although with 7xxx stuff solidly on the market, I'd go that route instead for the performance/power advantages. Not to mention driver focus will be on that now.

SSD choice, meh. Not too trusting of OCZ after all their undocumented product changeups. The RPS article listed good choices, with one honorable non-mentioned, and I'm surprised they missed it. The Corsair Performance Pro series, uses a Marvell controller with Toshiba 32nm toggle mode nand, which is more durable than the more common 24nm nand you find in most drives these days. (there are several other drive variants that use this combination, and a couple that use a Sandforce controller and 32nm toggle mode as well. Patriot Wildfire drives come to mind as an example)

Basically, if I were getting Sandforce drive, I'd either get an Intel 520, or I'd find one of the drives that also sport the toggle nand. You'll pay a little more either route, but Sandforce has had some problems with the last batch of controllers, and Intel is the only manufacturer that has solidly whooped the issue... and to my knowledge, that firmware is NOT available for other manufacturers at this point in time. So either get that, or the extra performance/durability from the toggle nand.

If I were NOT getting a Sandforce drive, my next choice would either be Marvell controller plus toggle mode nand, or just plain Marvell controller with regular synchronous nand (think crucial m4).

I recently bought two of the samsung drives, and they're solid drives. BUT. They're lousy about cleaning up after themselves. Admittedly I run mine in a raid0, so trim is currently not functional. But my boot drive is a pair of intel x25's in raid0, and my games drive is my pair of samsungs in raid0.

Guess which set is more fragmented? You betcha, it's the samsungs. Even after moving the games off the drive once to get rid of some previous fragmentation (and it did work, btw, dropped fragment to nearly zero)... after installing TERA afterwards, and even letting the drives sit idle during the day, which lets garbage cleanup do its thing... the volume is... 46% fragmented, last time I checked. Vs 4% for the intel volume.

With trim enabled it will probably do better, but there's a gigantic difference between the two. And even with SSD's, fragmentation is detrimental. In particular, it will eventually start increasing write amplifcation to the volume, which can wear your drive out substantially faster.

I like the sammy's, but I sometimes wonder if the crucial m4's might have been a better choice.

OS: Solid bullseye. I run it... XP compatibility mode has been unnecessary for me to this point.

178  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: What is it with DVD drives in my system? on: April 19, 2012, 07:34:52 PM
If you must order from newegg, (as I did the last time before discovering monoprice), I have some OKGears that I've been using. Good quality, no problems.

179  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: What is it with DVD drives in my system? on: April 18, 2012, 07:20:49 AM
Any updates here?

180  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: What is it with DVD drives in my system? on: April 13, 2012, 07:10:12 PM

Quote from: Purge on April 13, 2012, 04:33:36 PM

Quote from: TheAtomicKid on April 11, 2012, 08:11:41 PM

they're only rated for 50 insertions on the connectors for internals, so it's possible to wear them out without working too hard at it.

This needs to be taken out of context.

Don't be messing around with just any old BIOS...

On a more serious note, it seems I remember another thread along these lines recently, but it was a hard drive that went out. And I seem to remember, from personal experience, when a hard drive went out recently, that it exhibited some of these symptoms, like the system having problems booting, intermittently before it finally gave up the ghost. That drive no longer shows if you hotplug it into a running system, and, iirc, if you try to boot that particular motherboard with it attached... it won't boot. (p45 based board). Of course I haven't tried it since the rebuild... never had any reason to.

How are your backups? Keep an eye on your ssd and hard drives for misbehavior. I wouldnt really suspect the ssd, but technically the electronics on it could go like any other drive.

181  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: What is it with DVD drives in my system? on: April 13, 2012, 07:15:55 AM
order of connection should not affect anything. I've yet to see a bios that it would, as long as they're all on a controller that has drivers installed.

if the build has been in place for two years without mishap, and the problems with the dvd's are recent... hmm. I see you have an ssd on the chain. new? basically, have you added drives, rearranged, etc, recently?

basic reasoning is, it's unlikely you've had two opticals go out in similar fashion, and it be the actual optical drives.

that leaves cables, drive controller, and frankly, not much else.

missing bootmgr as I stated indicates the system didnt see a bootable drive when it tried to start up.

unplugging the optical drive in question and having everything work suddenly, is par for the symptoms I had before.

had you been in the case recently, before you started having problems?

182  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: What is it with DVD drives in my system? on: April 11, 2012, 08:11:41 PM
bootmgr is missing means system isn't spotting your boot volume on the hard drive. (which didn't necessarily cause your bsod)...

however... how old are your sata (data) cables.

when I had problems with mine, it turned out I had a batch of intermittent cables.

they're only rated for 50 insertions on the connectors for internals, so it's possible to wear them out without working too hard at it.

in any case, you're getting pretty much exactly what I got, when I had my issues.

my recommendation: replace ALL of the sata cables with new (they're relatively cheap, so no excuses). if that solves your problem, you could, if you wanted, go through your cables one by one using a dvd drive to test with until you start getting intermittent errors, at which point you've found your cable(s).

assuming my 'analysis' is correct, your bsod was probably caused by the boot and or system drive, falling off the drive chain, which would be caused by enough communication errors on the sata connection. (they do error correction on both command and data channels, which is great... but the will fall out of the drive chain eventually)

at a guess. even without bsods, etc, your dvd drive(s) disappear at random times, yes?

if your cables are relatively brand new, aka you've only connected/disconnected them a few times each, the this is not likely your problem.

if the build is brand new, and you've had problems from day one, then go back to suspecting this... you might simply have a bad cable, right out of the package.

183  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Best Gaming Laptop on: April 04, 2012, 06:15:46 AM
Remember those are mobile variants, which are, well, never, the equivalent of their desktop brethren. To be checking the specs before pushing the button!

184  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Firefall Invite Thread on: March 31, 2012, 09:49:27 PM

Quote from: Thry on March 31, 2012, 01:34:26 PM

Good news!

On Monday, April 2nd, we will be turning the servers on and leaving them on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Way to read that last post there, Thry smile

185  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Firefall Invite Thread on: March 30, 2012, 10:58:42 AM
Testing going to 24/7 as of the 2nd. (note it's posted to the public, on purpose)

Harkonis invite was accepted, though he didn't bother to post here. Please update his status to keymaster.

For those of you not in yet. The game is quite nice. And combined with free, I think it's going to roll along for quite a while. Don't get depressed waiting.

186  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: SSD alert! on: March 30, 2012, 06:15:06 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on March 30, 2012, 04:11:38 AM

Quote from: Caine on March 30, 2012, 04:07:54 AM

They also have slightly different model for the same price, fwiw

thanks.  I did the math and to move Steam and all my other games onto a SSD I'd have to look into the 200 gig and above sizes to have enough room to keep all my old standby's while still being able to feed my gaming ADD properly biggrin

For that, we have the bulk capacity drives...

You'll note that the cheapest drives in the category are Crucial M4's, which are well regarded, and run neck in neck with the other performance category drives. It's 589$, but barring destruction of your rig, power surge, or somesuch, the drive will be with you for years. Rough estimate for the nand of 3000 erase cycles, combined with 512 GB size and wear leveling, quick calculation shows.... you'd have to write 1.5 Petabytes to the drive, give or take, before it wears out. How's that for endurance? biggrin

Thanks for finding the other drive for the same price, Caine... apparently a local friend and I pretty much killed the first deal between us. I bought two drives, and he bought a third, and shortly after that, it went out of stock.

187  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: SSD alert! on: March 28, 2012, 06:09:00 AM
that's 139.99 after the 40$ promo code. for the record that's 1.093xxx per gig.

188  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / SSD alert! on: March 28, 2012, 05:45:14 AM   Promo ends on 3/31

Note that it's a notebook upgrade kit, which doesn't include a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter. You may or may not need one to mount the drive in your case.

Folks, this is a really good deal. The pricing is down to almost a dollar a gig. The samsung drives are made entirely in-house, so to speak, with samsung parts from bottom to top. The reviews are out there, and they all come back pretty danged positive. (these are amongst the fastest ssd's in the market segment... aka equivalent to top end intel, marvell, and sandforce controller drives)

If you have at least a sata II port, and preferably sata III, THIS, will make a difference. 128 gigs is enough for a boot drive and a game or three. Or it's enough for several games if you dont use it as a boot drive.

Deal is good enough I actually caved and bought a couple myself, in spite of the fact that theyr'e not 'needed' atm. But wanted. Very much wanted.

Will be using the pair of these as a raid0 boot volume, and my existing pair of intels will become the dedicated raid0 games volume.

The good news is, this type of upgrade lasts a lot longer than a video card, barring misfortune biggrin


189  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Damn it. Best Antivirus? on: March 27, 2012, 08:59:41 AM
I've had really good luck over time with a combination of Spybot Search and Destroy, Malwarebytes, Microsoft Security Essentials, and the occasional sweep with DrWeb CureIt, which is available as a free download that didn't need to be installed to run a sweep with the latest. So far, nothing has managed to penetrate that combination, while using NoScript in conjunction with Firefox.

NoScript may be a pain to work through, but I consider it absolutely necessary in maintaining a 'secure' system. A backup choice might be to use Chrome, since it seems to default to or is capable of similar behavior of not allowing scripts unless you approve them. Chrome not installed atm, so I can't remember how it sets up by default, but I _think_ the previous statement is relatively true.

Flattened the lappie? Ouch frown I hope you meant that figuratively.


PS: Reinstalling windows from a usb stick is MUCH less painful than from optical. Get a copy of the .iso with SP1 already included, will save you on updates from now on. (if you haven't already done any of this)
PS2: That Ashampoo stuff looks interesting. Gonna give it a whirl. Thankyou for the free version link.
190  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Firefall Invite Thread on: March 25, 2012, 04:37:55 AM
Ok, Harkonis, you appear to be first on the list. Please send me a PM with the email address you want invited to the beta, aka the one you're going to be using to login with.

191  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Firefall Invite Thread on: March 24, 2012, 08:42:31 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on March 24, 2012, 03:32:53 PM

Oops, sorry, I already sent them to the people that PM'd me before checking this thread. 

Razgon and Elmo have beta invites sent, and can be removed from that list then.  And so can I, for that matter.

Oh, you can't leave the list... noone EVER leaves the list...

Plus you didn't do it right, so those invites are OURS. Forever...

192  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: nVidia GTX 680 on: March 23, 2012, 03:21:02 AM
I'm runnin on a GTX 260 here, I need a fix, lol!

Interestingly enough, supposedly according to those pics, someone was able to order a pair, yet they've been nothing but out of stock on the newegg I normally shop at, ever since they were listed. So it's either someone elses newegg, like canada? or newegg business, or somesuch.

Actually I'm trying to hold off for a while on gpu upgrades, but I may weaken. Going to try and hang in there til Diablo 3 releases, and see how it does on my 260, etc.

I think biggrin

193  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: nVidia GTX 680 on: March 22, 2012, 07:21:20 AM$499-Pricing-Confirmed.html

Sadly, MY newegg doesn't have them listed yet.

194  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Firefall Invite Thread on: March 21, 2012, 03:32:55 AM
I monitor my invites once a week on average... so far no invites to give. I hope it's not related to feedback, because I haven't been able to participate that much (yet).

195  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Firefox 6, anyone tried it yet? (previously discussing 5) on: March 20, 2012, 06:49:29 AM
Running 11 here. Everything smoothly updated, no problems with extensions. (downloadhelper, fast dial, and noscript)

196  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Twitching... on: March 18, 2012, 02:06:23 AM
Ok, got the thing re-installed with a functional raid-0.

Moving the drives to the first two ports, may or may not have fixed my 'missing cdrom' error. Not sure.

Add to that, apparently, out of the multiple f6 drivers I've tried, nothing I've downloaded has been detected by microsoft as compatible. However, there's a functioning driver on the Gigabyte disk, which of course, is attached to the intel drive controller which is set to raid mode, and thus, wasn't visible or useable to pull a driver from in order to.. yeah, catch-22 there.

During all this I pulled a Windows ISO image and loaded it to a USB stick to make it a little easier for the install. Added the driver from the gigabyte cdrom to that, and between all of the above, we were in business.

So basically my issues were, (possible, but I'm thinking unlikely) some sort of port error involving the sata 6 vs sata 3 ports.

Missing driver.. no really... due to not having a workable raid driver on the windows cdrom, it couldn't really spot the cdrom, while the bios was set to raid mode. So I forgive it this one.

This in spite of the fact that the intel information in their downloads area very clearly stated that I shouldn't need _anything_ with windows 7 to boot to a raid. Just setup the raid, insert the installation cd, and off we should have gone.

Missing driver caused by utter confusion over WHICH updated intel driver to download from the site. And unfortunately, gigabyte renames their drivers on the cdrom, and in their downloads area, so I couldn't even compare names.

The rest of the rebuild is continuing smoothly, now that I have a handle on exactly what was going on.

197  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: ... so tempting ... on: March 16, 2012, 08:04:10 PM

Quote from: Purge on March 16, 2012, 12:49:08 PM

I can't justify it. I want it, but I don't need it.

_Justify_ it? Oh please biggrin

This is a _gaming_ site...

198  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Twitching... on: March 16, 2012, 07:27:01 AM
Gotta update here. Pretty sure my 'heat warning' was a false alarm. The thing went off again tonight. Precisely at 11pm local, while I was sitting at the desktop. I _think_ there's a clock or something, hiding in a box under my desk, trying to fool me. Haven't found it yet.

*blushes a bit*

199  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: ... so tempting ... on: March 16, 2012, 04:23:49 AM
It's $199... you don't have to fight it that hard. Just be good for a while afterwards, and the universe will let it go. Probably.

Checked the tires on your vehicle lately? Water heater given any trouble?

You know me... I like to help biggrin

200  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Twitching... on: March 13, 2012, 08:40:47 PM
Take the numbers with a grain of salt, they're human eyeball numbers, from watching the meter while playing. If your system is anything like mine, those numbers vary quite a bit, based on what is on screen at the time. BUT. The 'average' fps, seems to be up about 10 or so.

I actually got a heat warning from what I'm pretty sure was the gpu the other night. Low beep tone, slow, then faster, then repeating. At which point I quit out of WoT, but by the time I got a hardware monitor fired up, the gpu was only at 88c. (which is higher than normal 260's because a: this unit is factory overclocked and b: this units fan profile is altered for silent running)

I've actually had it at 90c before, which is really about as warm as I ever want to see it, and the alarm didn't go off at that point smile


PS: your '70 fps more' comment is off from what I posted. Please re-read before purchasing anything smile ( went from what seemed to be a 45 fps average with occasional spikes up into the 70-90 fps land, to 55 fps average with spikes well above 120 fps)

PS2: I really like the new hardware, it's just not quite as fuss-free as the p45 system has been.

PS3: If you only ever run 1 video card, the socket 2011 platform is pretty much money not well spent. get a socket 1155 and enjoy the same levels of performance for less.
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