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1361  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Vista Partition? on: August 23, 2007, 09:09:53 AM
Hmm.. Tiny budget. Yeah, go with the partition, no idea how hard it will be. You gotta add in the 'Calvin Factor', unfortunately. In THEORY, it ought be straightforward. In practice, resizing partitions (unless you're just gonna format/reinstall) can be troublesome. Then throw a dual boot on top of that. I'd say you're asking for trouble, but.. if your system is still in a state where it doesnt matter if you have to reinstall, then now would be a good time.

I'll add in here, that vista is.. kinda expensive. Let us know if you decide to futz with it... I'd be curious to hear your opinion on it.

1362  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: MOH: AA Demo on Fileplanet on: August 23, 2007, 08:48:44 AM
Apparently you havent got those headphones yet... biggrin

1363  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: New vid card? What's the bang for the buck on: August 23, 2007, 08:35:47 AM
Also, at least at first, a lot of people were having problems with their 'factory overclocked' cards. Turns out the factory overclock, was a little too much. Even a local friend of mine here ran into it. They replaced his card, but he had to go through the process. Mines fine, thankfully biggrin

1364  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: New vid card? What's the bang for the buck on: August 23, 2007, 08:30:51 AM
One thing I'll add.

Given the die shrink on the g80's to 80nm, and the maturity of the process at this point... the stock cards are overclocking better and better. To the point where the only real advantage I got on mine at this point, was the nicer looking cooler. Which, btw, makes the card so big it blocks most of the sata ports on my motherboard... argh :/

It does look nice though, but it tops out at 621 mhz, and somewhere between 900 and 1000mhz on the memory... 1000 and artifacts start showing up. Some of the stock cards these days are quite a bit better than that. Approaching 700 mhz gpu/1200 memory iirc.

1365  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: New vid card? What's the bang for the buck on: August 23, 2007, 08:27:16 AM
I have one of these...

...and it's definitely a nice beast. However, experience since buying it, leads me to recommend that you spend money on hardware, not on a factory overclock.

I run at 1680x1050 resolution here, and the card holds up nicely. Where it falls short, and will continue to do so, is that it's going to lack in extra memory for textures. I find myself wishing I'd bought a stock speed 8800gtx instead. My card runs hotter than I'd prefer, even with the 'slightly improved' ac3 cooling solution. Every single one of these runs warm, unfortunately. That huge gpu cooler has a weakness... it's cooling multiple points on the card, and the manufacturing tolerances leave a lot of gaps between the heatsink and the components. If I had my wish, I'd spend some time breaking my card down, and putting in some copper shims. But it'll be hard to gauge what thicknesses I'm going to need to make it work correctly.

The other option is to get an aftermarket cooler.. in which case why again did I pay extra money for the slightly upgraded cooling solution? Meh.

It's a fine card, I don't hate it. But I wish I'd either just gotten a stock 500/1600 card, or spent some extra money on a either a 640 meg version, or a full 8800gtx. Not that I had it at the time, but.. I wish... biggrin

1366  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Vista Partition? on: August 23, 2007, 08:16:38 AM
You'd be safer spending a little money and simply buying an extra drive, doesnt have to be huge. Just pull your normal OS, drop in the 'test' drive, and install vista to that.

For convenience, setup a mobile rack so you dont have to constantly pop the case.

<-- still trying to avoid vista. Other than directx10, which microgreed is deliberately restricting to vista in order to seperate us from our hard earned cash... is there ANYTHING left in it that would make it worth the upgrade? The only thing I can think of, would be 64 bit memory management, to improve beyond 4gig addressing. And even that is problematic, because nobodies writing anything joe-normal would use at home, that needs it... because that would dump winxp compatibility right out the window.

My prediction: The user marketplace, won't move to 64 bit apps for everyday usage/games, etc, until microsoft stops supporting windows xp and pulls it from the shelves. Until that happens, software houses will write code that's compatible with both... and that means 32bit code. Only rarely will you also find a 64bit version available. Too much development time involved in following two code trees. The only exceptions to this will be apps like supreme commander, that really really NEED 64bit memory addressing, cause they're crammed for space. And unless I'm mistaken, even SC doesnt have a 64bit client yet.


Man did I go off topic... but I'll leave it up for people to think about.

If you just want to test vista, I heartily recommend picking up a cheap drive. When you're done, you can stick it in a drawer for emergencies, or put it in the machine as a data drive.

You could also put it in the machine, and install vista to it as a dual boot config. It'll work, but the first way is more reliable about what's going to boot/machine not getting confused/borked/etc.

For a little more lucre, you could put together a test machine, I don't know what your budget is though.
1367  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gaming headphones? on: August 23, 2007, 01:28:49 AM

I've got the .510's for when I need a headset, and they're great. They're not Senn's, but they come with a really nice microphone smile

Plantronics has been making voice headsets for... long time now. They know their stuff.

If you want pure audio, my recommendation rests with Sennheiser, as apparently some others have recommended to ya. I had a pair of HD570's until the left side died, ugh, and you could hear a mouse fart through them. Extremely comfortable to wear, too. Even for hours.

Vortex2 soundcard + hd570's +a3d audio in counterstrike = track people through walls by their footsteps, or spot people halfway across the map because you heard them reload their weapon.

I got kicked from more servers than I'd care to remember smile

Cables are nice and lengthy.

Newegg has an extensive list of senn's. Be sure and browse through the recertified section, some nice deals there. (many of them for half, or less, of your related budget).
You could pick up a set of recerts, and decide whether you liked the sound/comfort or not. If you do, sometime later on, you could lay out for a higher model/new set, if you wanted.

Bit of advice. Unless I'm misunderstanding. Cirumnaural phones sit ON your ear, Supra-Aural phones fit around it, aka the cups press on your head, not your ear. My 570's were extremely comfy because of that feature.

Dont bother with the 5.1 phones. Good headphone routines will give you excellent positional sound. I believe currently, that honor belongs to the x-fi cards, although I'd be willing to bet money a3d could _still_ smoke current software. God I miss Aureal.

1368  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: What should Semaj do now? on: August 18, 2007, 09:42:00 AM
Considering they backburnered/canned Imperator Online for it, Warhammer better come outta the chute preloaded with perfect MMO goodness, or I'm gonna be really really angry (for a while, I do like warhammer, but I was _really_ lookin forward to imperator online)

Sadly, EA owns Mythics soul now, and I suspect that, yet again, they'll screw the pooch and ruin what could have been a perfectly good game.

Hopefully not. Warhammer has a certain amount of inertia already going for it. It might be enough to overcome the EA taint and let it survive on it's own steam.

1369  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Whoa! ...BFG.....sweetness on replacement card on: August 17, 2007, 01:53:55 AM




1370  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Help Setting up 1080p HDTV as second monitor on: August 16, 2007, 06:10:14 AM
Hmm. You should definitely be able to setup two seperate monitors on that card with independant resolutions.

Weird. Might hit the nvidia forums and see what they've got.

1371  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Whoa! ...BFG.....sweetness on replacement card on: August 16, 2007, 05:33:38 AM
*shudders* Via chipset... K8T800 Pro to be specific.

*wanders off mumbling*

Definitely check that fast writes setting. It may be your problem. As far as the fan goes, removing the speed adjuster shouldnt have affected anything. One less think to break, if nothing else.

1372  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Help Setting up 1080p HDTV as second monitor on: August 16, 2007, 05:06:29 AM
What card you using?

1373  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Whoa! ...BFG.....sweetness on replacement card on: August 16, 2007, 05:04:15 AM
*ponders the T-R beta installer... what the heck?*


*continues thinking*

1374  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Whoa! ...BFG.....sweetness on replacement card on: August 16, 2007, 04:59:39 AM
Leave memtest running overnight for several nights when you're not using the computer. Sometimes you get intermittant problems that wont show up immediately. Not saying you have bad ram, but if you can take the time, it doesnt hurt to give it the extra testing to be more assured. 2 hours isn't much.

Just had a realization. That's an agp version, is it not? I sorta defaulted to thinkin pcie cause that's prevalent these days.

But there are no 4200 pcie variants, which means your system is agp based, or else you've upgraded stuff since then.

You might also check your slot version for the agp slot, vs what the card needs.

And TURN OFF FAST WRITES. Nothing good comes of that. There's either no, or virtually no, performance gain to be had, and it suffered from compatibility issues for a long time.

What motherboard you using on this beast?

1375  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Whoa! ...BFG.....sweetness on replacement card on: August 14, 2007, 07:24:03 AM
Hmm.. you might also check around and see if there are any known bios incompatibilities between your new card, and your old hardware. You occasionally get weird stuff. One way to check is to break the system down to minimum (no sound, no usb devices, etc) and see if the problem goes away. If it does, start adding pieces back one at a time, etc etc you know the drill.

Website forums, etc. Motherboard manufacturer. Who knows?


It could still be the psu. Keep your receipts biggrin
1376  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Whoa! ...BFG.....sweetness on replacement card on: August 12, 2007, 08:48:19 AM
Hmmm... have you tried yanking the drivers/DriverCleaner/reinstalling the drivers?

1377  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Whoa! ...BFG.....sweetness on replacement card on: August 12, 2007, 02:34:12 AM
When it lets you play, will it just, let you play? Until you decide to stop? Or will it play for 'awhile', and then reboot?

1378  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Whoa! ...BFG.....sweetness on replacement card on: August 11, 2007, 10:54:17 PM

Cheaper at zipzoom, newegg has pictures. Looks like the 4pin is detachable on the main power.

1379  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Whoa! ...BFG.....sweetness on replacement card on: August 11, 2007, 11:51:02 AM
Well, one last cheap resort, might be to do some research on the power draw between the two cards, but it's really sounding like your psu at this point.

Dunno what kind of cash you have to spend... I've probably asked this before, but do you have a psu you can borrow? one that's known to be able to handle higher loads like that?

If you go the purchase route, I recommend pc power and cooling overall (expensive) and seasonic as a close second, or if silence matters to you. (the pcp&c units are 'fairly normal' in terms of noise... althoguh they do have a 'silencer' line.. not sure how quiet they really are.

The seasonics, however, are very very popular with the quiet crowd. will have more details than you can possible stand smile


For those interested... a good quality PSU is definitely the cornerstone of a modern gaming pc. The power draw in 3d mode, more powerful chipsets, etc, as well as increased sensitivity to out of spec voltages/current, demand it at this point. There are multiple 'good' psu brands out there, I recommend these two from either personal experience, or the experience of local friends that have used the parts. I myself, swear by pcp&c, however, I wish I'd found the seasonic info before I bought my last one. I'm trying to make my machine 'quiet', and the psu, while not horrible, can definitely be heard when the machine is on. The quality on the seasonics is equivalent to the pcp&c units, or so close it doesnt matter. It's a question of 'maximum performance' vs 'not quite maximum, but much quieter' biggrin
1380  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Whoa! ...BFG.....sweetness on replacement card on: August 11, 2007, 06:47:38 AM
If it's a power issue, it could either boot spontaneously while playing in 3d mode, or it might reboot everytime you try to access 3d mode. Also, it might give you bluescreen errors when dealing with a 3d mode.

Was it rebooting before the 6800 crapped out?

And does the 7800gs have an extra power connector for supplemental power? And if so, did you plug it in?

1381  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: How ya clean an old printer? on: July 28, 2007, 03:51:50 AM
Be careful, you'll end up spending more on cleanup, than you would on a new printer. There are some really really cheap deals out there.

If that doesnt sort by lowest price first, just flip it til it does. There's a lexmark in there for.. 27 bucks.

Don't know what your goals are. You can try the alcohol cleanup solution.. never seems to work for me. It seems to me, inkjets are almost designed to fail, after perhaps a year. I bought my mom a nice new HP inkjet... and she occasionally used it, perhaps 1-2 times a month. Behold, after roughly a year, it started giving very bad output. Cleanup, etc, failed. Then the electronics failed. Blinkenlights, printer refusing to complete powerup and achieve ready state, etc. Ended up borrowing another HP (different model) from a friend of hers. It's ok, nothing special. Waiting on it to fail too.

In my opinion... inkjets are 'disposable' printers. Don't count on them lasting for years and years.

Possibly the problem is HP, rather than inkjets in particular? There are some other good names out there, but I've never bought any of those.

1382  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Big Computer Issues: Crashes Ahoy on: July 27, 2007, 06:35:00 AM
Good start. If you have time/capability, let it run overnight at some point.. it will repeatedly test, so if you have an intermittant problem with the ram, it might show up.
If you feel up to it, you could try breaking your system down to basics (motherboard, cpu, ram, video, hdd) and start doing some more extensive testing to see if you've got a bad part somewhere.

If you suspect the psu, unfortunately, unless you have a spare or one you can borrow, it's gonna be tough to tell.

1383  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Serious & power on: July 26, 2007, 09:22:07 PM
Definitely just a short... may be what killed your video card. Not sure why one would spontaneously appear though. Possibly something that popped up while you've been messing with the other problem?

PS, you may have had a power surge. I had roughly the same symptons with my geforce3 back in the day... along with a whole host of other problems... everything just started slowly dying. No smoking gun, but I've always suspected I ate a surge.


Many things can be cured by a total disassembly/cleanup/reassembly, if you're up to it. It's not quite up to nuclear weapon level solutions like using dban to wipe a hard drive... but it's up there, so play at your own risk smile
1384  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Big Computer Issues: Crashes Ahoy on: July 26, 2007, 09:18:21 PM
Always start here... before pretty much anything else except possibly blowing out dust/cleaning, which you've already done. DEFINITELY start here before taking things apart/spending money.

If it comes back clean, then start looking at your video card.

1385  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: A way to check video card ram? on: July 16, 2007, 03:07:58 AM
Hope you had good luck / be gentle. I'm sure you know the drill, etc.

Btw, for folks reading this. Remember that most thermal paste has a lifetime on it (some don't)... aka, once you install it, it will usually last x amount of time, then you need to consider reapplying.... the stuff tends to dry out.

Always a good idea to keep an eye on your temps, etc... when something starts creeping up, it's time to clean/dust/eyeball test.

Dae... that's probably your environment at 59c, and your gpu at 89c.. and wow, those are both waaaaay up there.

1386  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: A way to check video card ram? on: July 14, 2007, 10:06:52 PM
It's not a direct test, but you could download atitool and use the artifact scanner to see if your card has problems. Don't be fooled by the name.


P.S. Check the cooling on your card... my x800xl started having problems a few months after I bought it... world of warcraft started crashing on me, artifacts, etc. Turns out it was a heat issue that popped up after the card 'aged'. Also turns out, the factory did a horrible job of assembly. Simple disassemble/clean/re-paste/reassemble bought me a 15c improvement in idle/loaded temps. Replacing the factory cooler later on bought me another 15c... and even just the first step, made all my problems go away, even without the third party cooler.

These days when I buy hardware, I eyeball it close before doing the initial testing. If it works, that's good. Once I confirm it's working, I start checking temps, and pondering how to rework it myself so that it's actually 'good'. Sad fact is, your card was probably assembled by some guy who was just in a hurry to finish his shift/quota/etc and go home for the day.
1387  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Help me with my RPG problem... on: June 18, 2007, 05:07:02 PM
Guild wars is nice because it's pay once, and it keeps getting developed. Get bored with it? Set it down for a while. In the mood? Pick it up again, might be new and interesting things to do. Or you're interested in a different type of character this time around. I haven't played it in a bit, currently back in WoW, but it still resides on my hdd. Plus, their streaming technology is truly awesome, and makes the game a dream to keep up to date. Just do the purchase online and download the entire client. You can start in just a few minutes. (it doesnt have to complete the download to start playing)

You might be able to pick it up a lot cheaper somewhere else, not sure.

(warning for people with capped bandwidth that this style of install is not necessarily economically sound biggrin )


(edit: sorry, missed the previous posting requesting sci-fi stuff)
1388  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: More Firefox Nonsense.... on: June 12, 2007, 11:35:53 PM
Still using vista underneath? Perhaps that's affecting it. I use WinXp Pro still, and firefox is my sole browser unless I am forced to use IE, such as, for instance, the windows update website.

Anyways, wanted to chime in that I'm not having ANY issues with it. What add-ons, if any, are you using with it? I only use no-script myself.


(edit) I definitely never end up with multiple instances of it like that.
1389  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Are there any 56k-friendly MMORPG's? on: June 11, 2007, 08:45:38 PM
In my opinion... note that, it's important... no MMO is going to be 56k friendly except in areas where there is little in the way of pc/npc crowding. The more mobs.. be they players or npcs' in an area, the more positioning data has to be sent over the 56k line to your computer... it reaches a point of saturation where the game just CANT send more data in a given timeframe... what happens is, objects start 'teleporting' when they move, which is... annoying, to say the least.

Also, entering a scene where lots of new data has to be sent to your comp, will cause 'zoning' issues.

Many of them CAN be played via 56k. Just watch out for crowded areas, etc.

Off to work now, flame on! biggrin

1390  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: [Vista] System stable... for now. on: June 08, 2007, 08:04:09 PM
Curiousity, what games? Using directx 10, etc? Details man, details! biggrin


I've avoided vista so far because of the general wisdom of waiting for the 1st service pack, plus, I simply don't 'need' it yet. Aka nothing I use requires vista explicitly. In fact, the only reason I upgraded to XP was that I was intending to work for a particular house that required xp and a couple of other software packages. Never did sign up for the job, but I gotta admit, (edit)XP(edit) has been an improvement over 2k, I wasn't really expecting it to be this much better. The networking in particular is much improved over the old model. Not so much the network code itself, I think, but the new way of implementing an individual network connection via control panel for each device, with it's own sharing controls and protocols, instead of the old list mode, and then choosing which to bind to which, etc. It just seems to work better.

(edited for content due to being tired and posting... not a good combo biggrin )
1391  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: June 08, 2007, 03:53:47 PM
Ok, I admit I'm curious. I want to read this review. I still feel your pain, I remember outlook express eating my email history with great clarity, and it was teh suck. But....


Atomic smile
1392  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: [Calvin] The I HEART Calvin thread! on: June 05, 2007, 04:24:36 AM
That's it, everybody go to your corners for time out biggrin

1393  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Anyone Dual Booting XP/Vista? on: May 19, 2007, 05:23:16 AM
No Calvin. BAD CALVIN! Calvin2be staying away from Vista until at least the first service pack.

Help me out people, we gotta hold him down or something...

Sure, Vista works.... but this is Calvin we're talking about...


1394  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Vista is sucking my life away- need help unistalling it on: May 12, 2007, 05:01:56 AM
All fixed?

As far as the ATA/RAID switch, I got no idea... I never utilize raid normally.

1395  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 12, 2007, 04:55:30 AM
Any luck with this sucker, or are you really screwed? frown

1396  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Vista is sucking my life away- need help unistalling it on: May 07, 2007, 08:36:04 PM
Mind you it's sorta like using a low yield nuclear weapon, when all you needed was the m-16 biggrin

1397  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Vista is sucking my life away- need help unistalling it on: May 07, 2007, 08:34:17 PM
This might help you on your way. Be careful!


1398  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 05, 2007, 08:44:24 PM
That's still completely insane for an OS to decide to delete your files on it's own. Especially by default. Not that I _ever_ intended to upgrade to vista, but this is just one more layer of icing on the proverbial cake.


I wonder if this was 'accidental' ?... thunderbird is, after all, a competing email package... and microsoft has been known to deliberately break things before...

Out of curiousity, what was the small change you made?

1399  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 05, 2007, 08:52:09 AM
It's called remote assistance :/

1400  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 04, 2007, 03:11:28 AM
It smells like it deleted your actual inbox file on the drive. I bet, if you check in your mail folder under appdata, you've got the two sub folders, one with your mailbox, the other should still be entitled 'local folders'... and that structure actually contains all the mails you moved into subfolders. If you check the other folder, you should have two files titled inbox... one has the .msf extension... see if you have any more with that name, and check the other folder structure as well?

I can't figure why it would move it.. that'd be decidely odd. Or perhaps the file became too large? not sure what the filesize limits are for the app. Or perhaps it got corrupted?

What strikes me as interesting is that the entire contents of your inbox are gone, rather than just 'all files older than 30 days' or 'all but the last 30' or somesuch. I suspect the file got deleted or molested in some manner.

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