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1361  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Big Computer Issues: Crashes Ahoy on: July 26, 2007, 09:18:21 PM
Always start here... before pretty much anything else except possibly blowing out dust/cleaning, which you've already done. DEFINITELY start here before taking things apart/spending money.

If it comes back clean, then start looking at your video card.

1362  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: A way to check video card ram? on: July 16, 2007, 03:07:58 AM
Hope you had good luck / be gentle. I'm sure you know the drill, etc.

Btw, for folks reading this. Remember that most thermal paste has a lifetime on it (some don't)... aka, once you install it, it will usually last x amount of time, then you need to consider reapplying.... the stuff tends to dry out.

Always a good idea to keep an eye on your temps, etc... when something starts creeping up, it's time to clean/dust/eyeball test.

Dae... that's probably your environment at 59c, and your gpu at 89c.. and wow, those are both waaaaay up there.

1363  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: A way to check video card ram? on: July 14, 2007, 10:06:52 PM
It's not a direct test, but you could download atitool and use the artifact scanner to see if your card has problems. Don't be fooled by the name.


P.S. Check the cooling on your card... my x800xl started having problems a few months after I bought it... world of warcraft started crashing on me, artifacts, etc. Turns out it was a heat issue that popped up after the card 'aged'. Also turns out, the factory did a horrible job of assembly. Simple disassemble/clean/re-paste/reassemble bought me a 15c improvement in idle/loaded temps. Replacing the factory cooler later on bought me another 15c... and even just the first step, made all my problems go away, even without the third party cooler.

These days when I buy hardware, I eyeball it close before doing the initial testing. If it works, that's good. Once I confirm it's working, I start checking temps, and pondering how to rework it myself so that it's actually 'good'. Sad fact is, your card was probably assembled by some guy who was just in a hurry to finish his shift/quota/etc and go home for the day.
1364  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Help me with my RPG problem... on: June 18, 2007, 05:07:02 PM
Guild wars is nice because it's pay once, and it keeps getting developed. Get bored with it? Set it down for a while. In the mood? Pick it up again, might be new and interesting things to do. Or you're interested in a different type of character this time around. I haven't played it in a bit, currently back in WoW, but it still resides on my hdd. Plus, their streaming technology is truly awesome, and makes the game a dream to keep up to date. Just do the purchase online and download the entire client. You can start in just a few minutes. (it doesnt have to complete the download to start playing)

You might be able to pick it up a lot cheaper somewhere else, not sure.

(warning for people with capped bandwidth that this style of install is not necessarily economically sound biggrin )


(edit: sorry, missed the previous posting requesting sci-fi stuff)
1365  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: More Firefox Nonsense.... on: June 12, 2007, 11:35:53 PM
Still using vista underneath? Perhaps that's affecting it. I use WinXp Pro still, and firefox is my sole browser unless I am forced to use IE, such as, for instance, the windows update website.

Anyways, wanted to chime in that I'm not having ANY issues with it. What add-ons, if any, are you using with it? I only use no-script myself.


(edit) I definitely never end up with multiple instances of it like that.
1366  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Are there any 56k-friendly MMORPG's? on: June 11, 2007, 08:45:38 PM
In my opinion... note that, it's important... no MMO is going to be 56k friendly except in areas where there is little in the way of pc/npc crowding. The more mobs.. be they players or npcs' in an area, the more positioning data has to be sent over the 56k line to your computer... it reaches a point of saturation where the game just CANT send more data in a given timeframe... what happens is, objects start 'teleporting' when they move, which is... annoying, to say the least.

Also, entering a scene where lots of new data has to be sent to your comp, will cause 'zoning' issues.

Many of them CAN be played via 56k. Just watch out for crowded areas, etc.

Off to work now, flame on! biggrin

1367  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: [Vista] System stable... for now. on: June 08, 2007, 08:04:09 PM
Curiousity, what games? Using directx 10, etc? Details man, details! biggrin


I've avoided vista so far because of the general wisdom of waiting for the 1st service pack, plus, I simply don't 'need' it yet. Aka nothing I use requires vista explicitly. In fact, the only reason I upgraded to XP was that I was intending to work for a particular house that required xp and a couple of other software packages. Never did sign up for the job, but I gotta admit, (edit)XP(edit) has been an improvement over 2k, I wasn't really expecting it to be this much better. The networking in particular is much improved over the old model. Not so much the network code itself, I think, but the new way of implementing an individual network connection via control panel for each device, with it's own sharing controls and protocols, instead of the old list mode, and then choosing which to bind to which, etc. It just seems to work better.

(edited for content due to being tired and posting... not a good combo biggrin )
1368  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: June 08, 2007, 03:53:47 PM
Ok, I admit I'm curious. I want to read this review. I still feel your pain, I remember outlook express eating my email history with great clarity, and it was teh suck. But....


Atomic smile
1369  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: [Calvin] The I HEART Calvin thread! on: June 05, 2007, 04:24:36 AM
That's it, everybody go to your corners for time out biggrin

1370  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Anyone Dual Booting XP/Vista? on: May 19, 2007, 05:23:16 AM
No Calvin. BAD CALVIN! Calvin2be staying away from Vista until at least the first service pack.

Help me out people, we gotta hold him down or something...

Sure, Vista works.... but this is Calvin we're talking about...


1371  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Vista is sucking my life away- need help unistalling it on: May 12, 2007, 05:01:56 AM
All fixed?

As far as the ATA/RAID switch, I got no idea... I never utilize raid normally.

1372  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 12, 2007, 04:55:30 AM
Any luck with this sucker, or are you really screwed? frown

1373  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Vista is sucking my life away- need help unistalling it on: May 07, 2007, 08:36:04 PM
Mind you it's sorta like using a low yield nuclear weapon, when all you needed was the m-16 biggrin

1374  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Vista is sucking my life away- need help unistalling it on: May 07, 2007, 08:34:17 PM
This might help you on your way. Be careful!


1375  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 05, 2007, 08:44:24 PM
That's still completely insane for an OS to decide to delete your files on it's own. Especially by default. Not that I _ever_ intended to upgrade to vista, but this is just one more layer of icing on the proverbial cake.


I wonder if this was 'accidental' ?... thunderbird is, after all, a competing email package... and microsoft has been known to deliberately break things before...

Out of curiousity, what was the small change you made?

1376  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 05, 2007, 08:52:09 AM
It's called remote assistance :/

1377  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 04, 2007, 03:11:28 AM
It smells like it deleted your actual inbox file on the drive. I bet, if you check in your mail folder under appdata, you've got the two sub folders, one with your mailbox, the other should still be entitled 'local folders'... and that structure actually contains all the mails you moved into subfolders. If you check the other folder, you should have two files titled inbox... one has the .msf extension... see if you have any more with that name, and check the other folder structure as well?

I can't figure why it would move it.. that'd be decidely odd. Or perhaps the file became too large? not sure what the filesize limits are for the app. Or perhaps it got corrupted?

What strikes me as interesting is that the entire contents of your inbox are gone, rather than just 'all files older than 30 days' or 'all but the last 30' or somesuch. I suspect the file got deleted or molested in some manner.

1378  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 04, 2007, 02:37:03 AM
Ok, describe to me how your folders/accounts are setup inside, please? You have just the basic account, with folders underneath it? Or something more like my own, with, supposedly, two accounts (the second being just a basic mail store, with no 'account' per se, just storage)


Gotta edit this... I think the thing defaults to the second account no matter what. Sets it to Local Folders, right alongside where it keeps your inbox/etc. In my case, I reset that sucker so that 'local folders' is actually my perma mail store on my data drive. What I was wondering is if, somehow, it had moved your inbox over without you realizing it. Or if it had somehow generated you a new empty inbox, while keeping 'local folders' where you were possibly keeping your folders.
1379  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 04, 2007, 02:34:42 AM
Back, thinking.

1380  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 04, 2007, 02:15:55 AM
bbiab, gotta go fetch ice cream for my somewhat sick mom (allergies, methink, but she's milking it biggrin )

1381  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 04, 2007, 02:07:27 AM
For the record, I'm sitting here fussing with my install, after having backed up my mail store. (after moving the contents of my inbox to a folder in my mail store)

What it appears to be doing, is using my default location (under appdata), for the inbox, junk/spam/sent/etc default areas, with the user defined stuff in the perma store (on a different drive, even).

Not directly related to your problem, but since I'm not sure how you're set up, mebbe it'll cause you to think of something.

Before, when I had this working, it showed TWO accounts in Thunderbird... one for the local stuff (under appdata), and then a second 'account', with the permanent mail storage stuff.
* TheAtomicKid is kinda boggled why they adjusted it like this.

I do realize after looking at the data structure in appdata, that it had the local folders, and the account, both under 'mail'...but why they combined the entries in the lefthand pane like that, I'm not sure. Irrelevant right now, methink.
1382  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 04, 2007, 02:01:27 AM
* TheAtomicKid mumbles

Settings check? Is it set to never delete mail, etc? *(under disk space in the account stuff)

1383  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Thunderbird just completely screwed me on: May 04, 2007, 01:24:19 AM

Did you check the directory structure where it normally keeps your inbox? The default should be in

C:\Documents and Settings\*******\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\******.default

Unless you've moved it?

Not entirely sure what error you've hit upon that's causing this. You're causing me to re-examine my mail configuration again. At one point, outlook express ate 10 years of my email history because microsoft changed a default behavior without mentioning it in the patch notes. And the backup, cause I got careless. frown

My normal configuration for mozilla mail in the past, has been a normal inbox, which usually resides in the normal place, and then an 'email storage account', on my data drive. However, when I swapped over to thunderbird, it doesnt seem to want to do that properly, or I'm not doing something correctly. Or something.

*backs up his email store RIGHT FREAKIN NOW*

1384  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: System froze and won't reboot on: May 03, 2007, 09:21:43 AM

how many drives should be on the raid controller?

do you have any other drives attached to the system? are they showing up properly?

was your boot volume on the raid?

(secondary post claimed no raid, so it's just a normal volume)

etc etc etc.

It could happen for any of a number of reasons. Power surge, bad drive (if there's only 1 drive on it would explain it not showing ANY drives for raid use), etc etc etc. Heck, the power cable could have come loose.

Need more info. If you're not using the raid, why is the drive attached to the raid controller? Etc etc etc.


***secondary post claimed no raid, this line removed***
1385  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: How hot should a graphics cards run? on: May 02, 2007, 07:33:10 AM

They've got them listed again, albeit out of stock. Out of Stock (ETA:05/07/2007)

I'd stick an auto-notification in there for myself, if you're still keen on picking one up.

1386  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Need Help With SATA HDD ASAP! on: May 01, 2007, 09:54:03 PM
1387  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Never assist Calvin; his curse is contagious. on: May 01, 2007, 09:27:10 PM
Mind you, the easiest thing to start with, is to start looping a memtest run while you're not using the comp.

1388  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: These parts. Good rig? on: May 01, 2007, 09:21:50 PM
Yeah, I didn't feel like getting into nasty details. Late/tired/haven't really had to do any psu research in quite a while. But heat is definitely one of the factors. Like Thin said... most psu's average about 40c internal temperature during operation... higher if the case has poor heat dissipation or uses the psu for most of it.... yet most manufacturers do indeed rate their units for 25c operation.... and when they go over that, the unit starts underperforming it's specs.

One thing that will help that, is to buy a good case that's designed for optimal heat/airflow. Like the ones that mount the psu at the bottom, and/or seperate the psu from the main chamber so that it gets independant airflow from the case, keeping it as cool as possible (also helps keep the internal fan circuit from thinking it's necessary to raise the fan speed, which is nice on the ears).

Add on a good solid PSU of your choice... my overall recommendation rests with Seasonic right now, for a combination of quality power delivery and silent operation... and a good solid motherboard... peoples opinions vary on this one... and you have a recipe for a stable base system. After that it's just a matter of additional parts.

1389  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: These parts. Good rig? on: May 01, 2007, 08:53:28 AM
I personally prefer PC Power and Cooling, overall, although if I want one that's quiet as well, I look for Seasonic units. Also, I haven't tried them yet, but you might check out the new olympia series from Silverstone. I'm sure there are other good manufacturers out there, but my personal experience is with the first two.

Can't stress the importance of a good psu enough. Modern graphics cards are extremely sensitive to power quality. You try to run one with a crappy/marginal psu, and you get constant bluescreens and reboots, even when 'it should be working'.


(edit: I'm no expert, but I suspect it's due to the direct power feed from the psu. since the card has limited room for power conditioning circuitry, having high quality power coming in is of paramount importance. Compare this to the latest trend for 6 and even 8 phase motherboard power circuits that some companies have been advertising. It used to be that 3 phase was enough)
1390  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Home Network Help on: April 29, 2007, 02:08:12 AM
One other thing to note, that might be affecting you. A lot of connections are not fully bi-directional... they end up being ratioed... if you're using, say... 70% of the upload cap, it will only let you download 30% of the download cap, etc. I first ran into this with a cable modem setup from, for the record.

1391  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Home Network Help on: April 29, 2007, 02:05:15 AM

Quote from: ATB on April 28, 2007, 09:51:06 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on April 26, 2007, 10:04:49 PM

An older 10MB switch could cause speed discrepancy...

How old are we talking about when we say old?

The sheer fact that it's 10Mb at all would drop your speed down to 1.25 megabytes/sec max. If it happens to be a hub and not a switch? ... That would be even worse.

Given your 2MB/sec speeds, I suspect the cabling, since the numbers don't fit.

1392  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Feel Brave? New NVIDIA drivers up! on: April 28, 2007, 07:07:58 PM
Actually, for those that use the CCCP playback solution, and are now using an 8800 series card, you might be interested in this thread...

If you're having playback issues.

1393  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Feel Brave? New NVIDIA drivers up! on: April 28, 2007, 06:57:38 PM
* TheAtomicKid places his body between Calvin and the new drivers...

Don't even think it biggrin

1394  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Cox Service + Pay per View + Series 3 TiVo? on: April 27, 2007, 10:25:11 AM
I've thought of another option. Call Tivo support and ask for a list of providers that DO support the series 3. That'd at least give you an idea of what you're up against.

1395  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Cox Service + Pay per View + Series 3 TiVo? on: April 27, 2007, 03:31:40 AM
From what I've heard/read over the last few months, starting with reading an article about the new cablecard ATI devices, a lot of cable companies just flat don't support it. You may be out of luck frown


(they like using their proprietary boxes over which they have more control, and the users have less)

You might check your options with dish/directv etc?
1396  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Home Network Help on: April 26, 2007, 09:37:04 PM
Need gory details on the hardware, ja! biggrin

nics, router, switch, etc.

1397  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Internet Explorer 7 Hogging Focus on: April 26, 2007, 09:34:57 PM
Smells like spyware/malware/virus... you run any checks lately?

1398  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: How should I install my CPU fan? on: April 25, 2007, 08:47:48 PM
wonderpug.. aye, with one small niggle. If you exhaust the cpu into the power supply, the hot air will cause the psu to run hotter, which will cause it to run it's fan at a higher rpm, which will cause it to run louder than it has to. Also not as good for the electronics, although it shouldnt overload them or anything. If you can exhaust a cpu to the rear case fan, assuming you have one, you should always prefer that... unless you have some weird plan going on smile has a lot of advice in the forums regarding airflow/cooling. I shoulda linked it before, but wasn't thinking about it.


Woops, think I read wonder's reply incorrectly. But my reply is still true, though not necessarily needed biggrin
1399  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Need Help With SATA HDD ASAP! on: April 25, 2007, 08:25:18 PM
What size does the bios say the drive is?


(what methink is happening is, your installation version of windows on cd doesnt have enough updates to spot the full sized drive until after you update it, so when it partioned/partitions the drive during installation, it's only making one partition of the max size it can understand... aka 137 gigs. What you would need to do, is, after you get everything installed and updated, is use something like partition magic to expand the 137 gig partition, to use all available space (AFTER you update windows so it can understand larger partitions.)

The other solutions could be, as I mentioned, to get a smaller drive to boot with (uneconomical, although a 100-120 gig drive, which is just under the size limitation, is dirt cheap at this point)

Or you could use partitioning software to setup 3x 100 gig or so partitions, or 4x80, or whatever, to use all available space. That would constitute one primary partition of 80 gigs, one secondary partition with the rest of the space, and then you build 3 logical drives inside the secondary partition. This would effectively give you  4 80 gig drives.

My recommendation would be to look for a good, freeware, partitioning package... which I've not needed in a looooong time, so I cant really recommend much. I think Partition Magic has/had a trial version you could use, which is why I mentioned it.

Note that if you build the 4 drives the way I mentioned, the windows setup software should be able to handle the job. If nothing else you just have setup build the first 80 gig drive, and then you boot into windows and have disk administrator do the rest. It's a cinch. And no, you dont need them to be dynamic volumes or anything, if it asks.


Personally, I no longer recommend partitioning if you can get away without it. It's not really a 'problem', but just having each drive setup as a single volume simplifies things in terms of management, formatting, etc.
1400  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Need Help With SATA HDD ASAP! on: April 25, 2007, 11:53:06 AM
And for the record, Calvin, I've never seen anyone with a worse anti-tech curse than yours. Ever. You make me want to run and hide biggrin

Easy answer. Get a smaller drive for boot, and use the big drive for data. Do the install, update, then do the format on the big drive. Presto and done. Else just partition the drive. (assuming you cant get winblows to see the entire drive)

If you felt like spending lots and lots of cash on an itty bitty drive, you could splurge for one of the new 32gig flash drives, which would add zero noise level to your system, and be remarkably light on power usage too smile (unfortunately, you pay for it up front.. they're still about 500 smackers on newegg...)

Surely... SURELY.... a solid state flash drive with no moving parts and no exposed electronics is capable of withstanding your... abilities... long enough to be installed without malfunctioning... biggrin


edit: I'm kidding. They're all PATA44 units... and whilst that's not overtly a problem (you can get specialized cables for em), I personally won't be getting any until they come out in native sata interfaces. and the cost will have to come down to at least half current market... Atomic
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