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1  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: SSD's on: July 27, 2016, 06:21:13 AM
I must admit, I like the new, extremely easily configurable windows explorer.

I'm horrified at the level of invasiveness of windows 10 in general... but there are products out there (free ones!) that help clamp it down. I need to do more, to be honest....

'Free' upgrade or not, I did not sign on for microsoft to make itself copies of everything I do and store on my computer. They've learned NOTHING in the last 20 years concerning consumer privacy.

This one...

http://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/

Does more than any other tool I've found so far.

Atomic
2  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: SSD's on: July 25, 2016, 11:54:06 AM
So, how goes the war? You get all the drivers banged into shape?

Atomic
3  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: SSD's on: July 20, 2016, 12:20:59 PM
Depends on how new the hardware is versus the date the operating system was finalized to disc. Microsoft is pretty good about basic drivers for a ton of hardware, but if the hardware wasn't out at the time, there's not much they can do smile

Atomic
4  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: SSD's on: July 20, 2016, 10:10:37 AM
It's going to be some work... I suggest network drivers first... you can either either use the cd that probably came with your motherboard if you still have it

or you can download the latest from whomever made the network port... on the assumption that's Realtek, you could start looking here..

http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/

Find the drivers you need based on your hardware (device manager is helpful for this)

Atomic

PS:If you really can't stand your display, you could do that first... but since you're manually porting the drivers over until the network is up... yeah. Do the network first.

PS2: You can do it! You'll learn a lot. It will hurt, at first... but learning is good, m'kay? biggrin
5  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: SSD's on: July 16, 2016, 06:54:54 AM
Well, you're perfect on the size IMO, as even with a windows install and some data, you'll still only have it half full til you start downloading the pr0n *coughs*

However, the Trion 150 is a TLC budget drive... Anandtech did a review here...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10189/the-ocz-trion-150-ssd-review

I should still outperform your hard drive by quite a bit... please let us know here how it 'feels' as a system drive.

Atomic

BTW: When you setup the drive, if you only use, say, 400GB of space, by deliberately shorting the main partition... aka the 'c' drive... it will help keep the drive less 'fragmented'... remember, as the drives fill up, eventually it has to start wiping old blocks that are marked for deletion, before it can write new blocks on the nand it needs, to keep wear levelling optimal... aka so any particular nand cell does not wear out early because it gets used more than the others. If you short the partition, it leaves a much larger empty space to work with that the default (which is the difference between your 480 GB drive size, and the next greater 'power of 2' ... aka 512 GB.

You can always expand it later if you run short on space, and feel you need it.
6  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: SSD's on: July 14, 2016, 07:26:12 AM
I was referring to general procedure, not specifics. Particularly referring to purchase order.

You get the most benefit from replacing a system/boot hard drive, with an ssd, in terms of overall performance. Everything 'speeds up' due to the system no longer having to wait every time it needs to access the hard drive that the system volume is installed on.

So, in general, replace the boot drive with an ssd first, and then, if you have the money later on, consider replacing any separate games volumes you might have, which will mostly affect loading speeds... although if you have a game that has to load textures on the fly, some mmo's do this, as you move around... you'll experience less 'hitching' in games like this, as access to the new texture files will be much, MUCH quicker...

But speeding up the entire system via the boot drive, is a much more noticeable, and much wider spread, benefit.

It's also more economical this way. Spend a small amount of money at the beginning for maximum benefit... repurpose the existing hard drive to games, data, or whatever you want to stick on it, then see how you feel about it after that. If you're still wanting more space, you can add a second ssd, stick your games on that, and repurpose the original hard drive AGAIN to be data only, if you need such a thing. Data rarely needs high performance access for a home user, so if you're keeping the hard drive in use, that's the optimal usage for it these days.

Atomic

PS: 'Replace the boot drive with an ssd' means either get someone to show you how to clone the hard drive to the ssd, then put the cloned system drive (the ssd) in the drive chain... then change the boot order so that the UEFI/bios uses the ssd as your boot drive. OR, put the ssd in the drive chain (install it in the case, connectors, power, data, change the boot order, etc) and then clean install windows to the ssd. If choosing this option, it's best to disconnect the hard drive temporarily, to prevent confusing the windows installer (which will spot the old windows installation), or the user, whom will get confused when the installer spots the old windows installation, and or get confused about where to install the new copy of windows.
7  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: SSD's on: July 06, 2016, 05:28:17 AM
This was quite informative, btw. I generally agree with them.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/615233-optimizing-storage-hdd-ssd/

Replace the boot drive with an ssd first... dedicate the hdd to games storage... (remember, mostly sequential texture loads for games, so hdd performance generally will hold up, although not as well as an ssd, obviously)

(more info: they optimize the game/texture files for the way they expect the games to load textures, or at least they used to, specifically to improve performance on... hard drives... in order to minimize drive seeks, etc)

Atomic
8  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: SSD's on: June 19, 2016, 09:44:06 PM

Quote from: Greg Wak on June 19, 2016, 06:34:03 PM

I think if I just want the OS on it the Intel 730 240GB should be fine, Yes?


edit: Actually, it would be more than fine. Sytem/boot drives aren't drastically affected by write speed... there are some writes, to be sure, and there's always installations, but outside of that it's mostly small files, which the intels are perfectly good at...and you get 'intel quality'... my boot volume consists of 2 x25-m/160's, and they're still going strong.


It would be fine, though the 240 GB version isn't the fastest... might consider the sandisk or the samsung instead. (the intel write speed drops significantly between the 480 and the 240 versions)

Atomic

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167190&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=intel_730-_-20-167-190-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171998&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=sandisk_extreme_pro-_-20-171-998-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147360&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=samsung_850_pro-_-20-147-360-_-Product
9  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: SSD's on: June 18, 2016, 10:53:11 PM
You might want to take a peek at some options for your new boot ssd, and list what you're interested in here. I'll try to get back promptly with recommendations.

These are all standard SATA connector units... aka hard drive replacements.

Intel 730 series... (480 GB) not the fastest, but fast, and very reliable. Focus is more on small files, and consistency in performance, so should be optimal for a boot drive. (to be honest, good for either)

Sandisk Extreme Pro... very fast, 10 year warranty!

Samsung 850 Pro... very fast, 3d nand if it makes a difference...

Three that I would consider, with real consideration for the first two.

If you're not going to buy a 'super' ssd for the boot drive... consider the mushkin reactor I picked up for my temporary games volume. It's not the fastest thing in the world, but it's fast enough, and they're extremely light on the wallet. Got mine at a fairly common sale price of 209$ for the 1TB unit.

There's also NVMe and U.2 units, with NVMe becoming very common... but unless your system is setup for those, there are steps before you can use one, and booting from one might be impossible. (it might be possible if your bios can boot an add-in card, and your solution is 'smart' enough)... I'm not advising this one, as I haven't even attempted it myself.

Atomic
10  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: SSD's on: June 18, 2016, 10:39:58 PM
I've never done it before, but someone else here might be able to advise you on cloning the primary drive to the ssd. After that, it's a matter of tweaking the installaion.

If you WANT to reinstall, then your way forward is clear biggrin

You're still in the free upgrade period for windows 10. I've upgraded my primary box at this point, and other than microsoft being extremely interested in my personal information, no problems. There are guides around for putting the clamp on that stuff... and it's a lot, be warned. But the OS is running smoothly... I like the new explorer.exe, for instance.

Anyways, you don't need to 'upgrade'... just download an install from microsoft (I prefer installing from USB, much faster), and leave the security key blank at install, assuming that still works. Disconnect the old windows boot drive so as not to confuse anything, and install clean to the ssd. Once you're sure you're happy, THEN you let it have your windows key.

If you want to upgrade, I'd recommend cloning your installation first, then upgrade the cloned copy.

If you want to remain with win7, which is perfectly viable, either clone or clean install, your choice. I definitely recommend disconnecting the old windows drive if you're clean installing, though, it saves on confusion. Once you're installed, you can re-add the drive (check bios for boot order, be sure you're booting the correct drive!), then do whatever you want with the drive.

Atomic
11  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: SSD's on: June 15, 2016, 12:04:24 PM
I currently use a 1TB mushkin reactor as a games volume. Finally got tired of the limited space on my dual raid0 setup. Still have the first raid as boot, but replaced the games volume a couple or three months ago. tons of space now... more after I make more modifications.... the reactor will, (probably) eventually get consigned to 'general storage'... aka anime, downloads, tax receipts, etc

But before that can happen, I need a new, actual, games drive... been eyeing a samsung 950 pro, or somesuch, but undecided atm. Tbh, after a point, you won't notice the speed as much. Having a system setup with a boot drive and a dedicated game volume, already makes a ton of difference. Even more so if you have enough ram you can ditch the paging file (a different subject)

And, eventually, I'll replace the boot raid. I don't really need a giant drive for that.... but a quick one, that's better at random access and small files. Games, on the other hand, mostly tend to be long periods of nothing, followed by loading tons of texture files, then more long periods of nothing... so a drive that excels at that is theoretically better.

If you're running a single drive system, my recommendation... get yourself a small? fast, ssd, and make it your boot drive. dedicated your existing hard drive to your game volume. You'll gain a ton of responsiveness, both in games, and in general usage. You can add a large ssd later, when/if your game drive dies on you, or you just get tired of having moving parts biggrin

(small = 240 GB or so... you'll use about half that on your windows install... get a bigger drive if you want, future usage, less wear, etc)

Remember, like a hard drive, if you fill up an SSD, it slows down a LOT... also, you get more wear on the drive as it starts trying to move stuff around, delete currently unused cells to make room for new writes, etc. Basically, don't fill up your ssd, it's no bueno.

Atomic

PS: More physical nand literally means more ability to write data to the drive, if you worry about such things. Because the controller literally has more nand to spread the writes across before having to repeat.

http://www.thessdreview.com/  (good place to check reviews)
12  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Buliding a PC on: May 05, 2016, 08:40:03 AM
Read this a couple times now.... not going to critique your parts selection, most everything there is workable, but....

Title of article is 'building a pc'...

Yet you do not describe the process very much at all. Just your parts selection and why you chose them. Tis a little late now, although I suppose you could update the article... but a small walkthrough of the process might go a long ways.

Atomic
13  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Sudden PC Problems (Won't finish booting) on: May 03, 2016, 12:00:39 AM
Glad you got it fixed, and without spending substantial monies.

Wouldn't have suspected the monitor from the info, tbh.

Interesting symptoms for a monitor connection.

Atomic
14  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Sudden PC Problems (Won't finish booting) on: April 29, 2016, 06:22:59 AM
I haven't chimed in on one of these in a while, so thankfully, this shouldn't sound like I'm flogging the dead horse.

Before condemning ANY drive as being suspect.... get yourself a fresh clean unused sata cable. Seriously.

The connectors are theoretically supposed to last for 50+ insertions per spec... and no doubt the zero force ones with the latching mechanism should last even longer.

That said, I've had more than one go bad on me over the years. In fact, I had an extended period of tearing out of the hair, due to me NOT suspecting the cables, and thinking I had everything from bad motherboard, to bad drives, to bad memory.

IT WAS THE CABLES biggrin

I had multiple cables that were giving sporadic disconnects in the machine.... three, iirc. One on the optical, and two more on two of the drives, including the boot... and lemme tell ya, windows gets really unhappy when the system drive disappears from the drive chain :/

Once you're certain of the cables, you can begin passing judgement on the drives.

Atomic
15  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: weird artifact on: March 26, 2016, 06:18:39 AM
See if it shows up in a screencapture.

Atomic

(if it doesnt, it's downstream of the gpu) (not 100%)

(make a desktop shortcut to the snipping tool, rather than trying to navigate the menu with the screen borked)
16  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: weird artifact on: March 20, 2016, 08:33:48 AM
What you describe makes me think it was a memory error on the gpu... remember, it uses the memory on the card to build the screen that gets output to your monitor, and that memory is laid out pretty much in a grid pattern. So if you have a row(s) or column(s) that have some sort of malfunction, say, won't write the bits that control the red/blue colors in the cells... then you'd get a stripe of them... (and indeed I've seen something resembling what you describe on one of my own failed cards)

If it's not continuing to generate the error, great. If it shows up again, or if you want to push your luck and actually provoke the dragon ... a gpu memory testing program might be in your future

(or you could go with any of the gpu benchmarking/testing programs like say, furmark... but that would be really pushing it if the card is already borderline)  (maybe not? they dont stress gpu memory that much, iirc)

that said... it went away. it might have been a bug.... when my card went south, it went south and stayed south... in fact it continued to get worse over time until I retired it.

Here's a quick link to some resources... https://www.raymond.cc/blog/having-problems-with-video-card-stress-test-its-memory/ 

Atomic

ps: also remember... just because a card fails furmark or somesuch, doesnt mean the card is 'bad'... those programs are MUCH harder on a gpu than your typical game scenario.

17  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Displayport question on: December 12, 2015, 10:18:16 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort

It doesn't LOOK like the physical connector has updated...

double check your connector/pins/etc

Atomic
18  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: 4K gaming on: August 31, 2015, 06:21:15 AM
Ok. Update.

Between this... https://pcmonitors.info/others/nvidia-g-sync-variable-refresh-rate-technology/

and this... http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/g-sync/faq

I'm getting ... 'variable refresh rate down to 30 fps'

combined with 'ensures that every frame rendered by the gpu is displayed'

So, ideally, 30 fps and upwards, to the limit of the monitor to display frames.

Below 30fps, depending on the specs of the individual monitor. I'm expecting similar to what I mentioned previously... 20 fps, then 10 fps... whatever your card can reach... if it can't, drops all the way down to the next level, which is what happens in a 'normal' monitor anyway.

Atomic
19  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: 4K gaming on: August 31, 2015, 06:09:01 AM
One thing to note... yeah, it drops down to 13 fps... but that's at ultra settings... _with AA enabled_. At 4k, AA is not really a 'need', although 2x to smooth some of the edges a tiny bit might be nice... those few instances where you might notice it should fade into the background.
* TheAtomicKid personally uses 2x a lot... it's not as hard on the card as the other modes, and it's enough to take the ugly off.

Atomic
20  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: 4K gaming on: August 31, 2015, 06:05:35 AM
Good spot there Engine. Again, it boils down to what's acceptable in terms of performance, which leads to a key question. What's the MINIMUM framerate for g-sync on that monitor before it starts tanking? 40 fps? 30? Need more detailed specs. IIRC, with a 'normal' 60fps lcd panel, once you drop below (60fps), iirc, the next step down is... 30? fps. Someone chime in here with better info please. I'll dig for a bit and see if I can answer my own questions.

Atomic
21  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: 4K gaming on: August 29, 2015, 07:09:16 AM
Guess it's down to what you want, then. Gsync will get some usage, since the 770 is on the slow side to drive the display, depending of course on whichever game you're running.

Best bet is to check reviews for the 770, and look for 4k testing. Then hopefully find at least SOME of the games you play on somebodies list.

Shop around though. There are quite a few 24 inch 4k displays available now... would save you some green if it's enough.

Atomic
* TheAtomicKid would LOVE a 32 inch 4k display.... but his gpu would probably crawl out of his case and try to murder him in his sleep... (gtx 780)

Found a review... http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_770/  there's some '5k' testing, which should give you an idea of what to expect.
22  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: 4K gaming on: August 28, 2015, 08:00:39 AM
Here's a question... which is more important... physical monitor size, or resolution?

If it's size, you could get a larger monitor at like 2560x1440 (or 1080!... ultrawide) for less money.

If it's the resolution... well... it's the resolution, 4k's dont really come smaller than 27 inches or so. Just for giggles, checking now . As indicated, scratch that, they're available... you could shave some off the cost if you wanted.

G-sync you pay for, but tis handy if your card can't keep up... which is definitely more likely the higher resolution you go. Freesync is... err.. free... but pretty sure it wont work with nvidia cards... they're bad about interoperability with the Red Team.

What's got you set on this particular monitor? It's not particularly fast or anything, and it's not particularly cheap (or expensive, for that matter, for a 4k monitor)

Atomic

(just as an example, what I really 'need' right now, is an approximately 32 inch monitor with 1920x1080/1200 resolution... just the right size for when I'm sitting at the desk... slightly larger than current because sometimes I watch 'tv' from across the room and it would be nicer than the current 24 inch panel... yet keeping to the lower resolution in order to keep it sane where the gpu is concerned)
23  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: 4K gaming on: August 26, 2015, 08:09:34 PM
I'll post something resembling the flip side of this argument.

The 770 CAN drive the display, albeit you'll either have to slow down, or reduces some of the eye candy until you can upgrade the car. Also, RPG's and strategy games generally demand less of your gpu.

In the meantime, the display is likely to last you ten years on your desk. And you get the non-gaming benefits for the entire time.

At most, tax season is 6 months away smile

Of anything you can buy for a computer.. the case, and the display, are the two things you will retain for the longest usage.

Atomic

Having said all this, I personally am still at 24" and 1920x1200... I just haven't wanted to update yet, although I did test a 40" tv as a monitor for a while. Slightly too big at the distance I sit... need 32" or so. But still no upgrade as I'm perfectly happy with my current for a while longer.
24  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Question about Internet speeds and connections (AT&T/Comcast related) on: May 20, 2015, 06:31:05 AM
Pretty hard to argue with that. If you're willing to go to the trouble of switching, the best way to keep the prices low, is to swap providers every year or two, which allows you to avail yourself of new customer/returning customer pricing schemes... otherwise they just keep continually raising the prices on you.

Atomic
25  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Question about Internet speeds and connections (AT&T/Comcast related) on: May 19, 2015, 04:56:21 AM
For infomation purposes... the cable modem uses channels on the coax cable. Your tv broadcast also uses (it's own) channels. Theoretically using one will not affect the other... to each it's own, so to speak. The congestion comes when other people are also using it... as with any network connection.

Atomic
26  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Question about Internet speeds and connections (AT&T/Comcast related) on: May 18, 2015, 07:30:26 AM
Fiber COULD be 'better' than your coax cable connection... but if they sell a lot of service in your area, it can and probably will feel congested at some point... upstream of you all those optical cables get concatenated into fewer pipes. Then THOSE fewer pipes get bundled at HQ or substation or whatever, and the signal at some point passes to whomeever is supplying ATT with their internet backbone connection.

This is true whether you use fiber, cooax, or anything else. At some point you WILL share bandwidth.

50 mbps is pretty good. If you're getting real speeds of 5-7 MB/sec for downloads you're getting excellent results for it... I'm assuming that's what you meant even though you actually put Mbps. Correct me if you actually meants Mbps.

No comment on the TV side. In terms of noticing download speed by dropping to 18mbps... yeah, you'll probably notice it when you hit youtube, patch a game, etc. Will it be crushingly slow? Youtube, not so much. You generally only stream one of those at a time, and 18mbps is fast enough. Game patches you'd notice doubling the time to patch.

All speeds are theoretical... fiber, copper, wireless, what have you. In theory you might get more of your 18mbps fiber than you are of your 50mbs copper... but 80% of 18 is... 14.4 mbps... and you're currently getting '32 mbps from Speedtest. And no theory involved, 32 beats 14.4 twice over, with some to spare.

I'd also like to point out, that if a bunch of people in your area ditch Comcast for ATT... you'll have all that coax to yourself, soon, at zero cost biggrin

Have you noticed traffic congestion on your cable?

Remember, salespeople are salespeople. They're programmed to sell. The truth is sometimes an inconvenience to them.

Atomic


27  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Blackjack's new gaming rig on: April 24, 2015, 06:57:25 AM

Quote from: Mystic95Z on April 23, 2015, 01:11:41 PM

Quote from: TheAtomicKid on April 19, 2015, 01:02:05 AM

You made no comment on any improvement in the noise problem...

He did mention that the whine persisted and that it might have been the GTX 970 all along. Mine does it too, but I dont hear it unless I have the side off the case. I have a Corsair 550D case witch has all kinds of noise dampening on the panels.

I see where you're getting that from his post, I think... but I didn't really get that impression when I was reading through...

While now I'm thinking maybe the annoying sound was just GTX 970 coil whine afterall... didn't really make it clear to me... anyways, I digress.

Glad you seem happy with the new hardware, it's a solid choice as far as psu's go.

As far as cpu's and thermal paste go... a lot of them have a thermal pad/paste preapplied... and tbh, it's terrible. The very basic of basic in terms of performance... just enough to get you by. Amount is generally ok, you don't actually want that much... about a pea sized globule's worth... but the application is kinda meh. Basic square usually, middle of the cpu... and it won't necessarily spread much after you stick the cpu cooler on top of it... just kinda depends. Plus the quality of the goop they use is... well, it's not always the best stuff you can lay your hands on. Mind you, you can use toothpaste in an emergency (yes, seriously.. just not the stuff with crunchy bits in it)... but it will dry out rapidly and need to be reapplied in order to retain what performance you DO get out of it. (the toothpaste that is, the pre-applied TIM will last longer than that)

Hand applying paste on a clean cpu and cooler, will outperform it every single time.

Atomic
28  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Blackjack's new gaming rig on: April 19, 2015, 01:02:05 AM
You made no comment on any improvement in the noise problem...

Oh... any electrical device can potentially generate whine... sometimes you have to take steps to muffle it... I've seen psu's where they had so much silicone goop slathered in there you could  have used it to remake 'The Blob'... obviously delta didn't go to too much trouble on your particular model. Doesn't make it a shabby psu... but it's interesting that Asus went with that as an option. (as opposed to something a little more 'refined'.

Your Edge 750's OEM is Seasonic, which also has a stellar rep' for build quality.

Atomic
29  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Blackjack's new gaming rig on: April 02, 2015, 05:53:22 AM
Decided to dig through newegg's psu's for giggles. Found this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182083&ignorebbr=1

Note the additional 15% off with promo code. Rosewill is Newegg's house brand. I dunno who the OEM is for the psu, but with a platinum rating, it should be good, at the very least.

You can get the 750 for a tad more, and you lose the promo... and it has a Johnnyguru recommended stamp on it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182084&ignorebbr=1

Atomic

Looks like wolf has reviewed the 750, and hardwaresecrets has a review on the 650. Not seeing anything bad in either, so either looks like a real good fit. 7 year warranties as a side bonus smile
30  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Blackjack's new gaming rig on: April 02, 2015, 05:47:50 AM
Oh and don't get a fanless unit. Your case wont work with it easily.
31  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Blackjack's new gaming rig on: April 02, 2015, 05:42:48 AM
http://www.jonnyguru.com/index.php

Just for information, Delta is one of the highest quality OEM's for psu's you can find. Maybe THE highest. You may just have a bad (or just a noisy), fan in yours. Usually they don't make buzzmeisters (your word)... but if it's not specifically engineered for quiet/silence, it might be more noticeable than not.

As you're about to discover, a reliable psu tends to cost more than the run-of-the-mill units.

Dig through the reviews, make note of the scores, and the comments on noise. Don't take anything but ball bearing or 'fluid dynamic bearing' type fans. (sleeve fans wear out rather quickly, and it's hard to replace a psu fan when it goes south)...

You roughly need 5-700 watts for your current setup.... well, 400 watts probably would do, given the new nvidia's are rather efficient... but I probably wouldnt go that low without careful research on the unit. (technical note, your machine will draw less than this... but you dont want to max the psu... you need you peak expected draw to be about 2/3rds of the total capacity (or less)

I advise favoring gold or platinum units, as they tend to also utilize higher quality internals, although they do tend to be a little more expensive, especially on the high end where the prices get... rather non-insignificant.

Atomic
32  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Blackjack's new gaming rig on: March 30, 2015, 06:51:04 AM
slow steady hum is probably your fans. slower hdd's can also have an idle hum... raptors are actually fairly loud, including velociraptors in their icepaks. (but much quieter if NOT in the icepak and softmounted somehow. I digress)

Probably your system fans. Might be your HDD. Yes, ssd's are totally silent. no moving parts, and I've yet to encounter one that had electrical whine... (not enough energy moving through them to make audible noise? )

If you can just barely hear it, what's the fuss?

Motion sickness... can't help that. Your brain sucks biggrin

(try getting up at the top and bottom of the hour and walking around for 5 minutes. Get a drink. Get a snack. Get rid of same in appropriate manner. You should do this anyways, it's healthier)

Atomic
33  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Blackjack's new gaming rig on: March 28, 2015, 08:12:20 PM
Motion sickness in gaming/vr is caused by the world not moving 'right' according to what your senses are telling you. Actually body head/inner ear vs display type stuff.

Better framerates CAN help, actually. It makes motion 'smoother', which helps your brain reconcile things.

It does sound like a nice system.

Atomic
34  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Blackjack's new gaming rig on: March 28, 2015, 08:03:55 AM
Now of course that it's too late, I'll pop in here and remind you that I've postulated my 'system' on these forums a couple of times now.

I do build my own, and there's always an initial cash layout doing that kind of thing, because you can't start with just a video card...

but once you get started, you can budget maybe 500$ a year for upgrades... and as long as you remember to actually update different bits... storage one year, gpu the next, mobo/cpu/ram the third, give or take... if you remember to actually do it, your system doesnt fall too far behind the tech curve.

And, of course, you're not paying for it all at once, and it hurts less.

Atomic
35  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Occasional crash/drop to desktop from games SOLUTION on: March 26, 2015, 06:55:34 AM
Nine days and counting. No drops to desktop. It's not really a fix, per se, since all you're doing is disabling something... but it does stop the crashing.

Anyone else want to report their success, or lack thereof?

Atomic
36  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Occasional crash/drop to desktop from games SOLUTION on: March 17, 2015, 07:49:24 PM
Technically, it COULD be a psu issue, but I sincerely doubt it. Right now I'm just keeping an eye out for further dropouts... so far, its been rock stable since the 'fix'.

Atomic
37  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Display driver NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver stopped responding... on: March 17, 2015, 08:11:20 AM
Started a new forum thread regarding a possible solution for problems like this one...

http://gamingtrend.com/forums/hardware-software-hell/occasional-crashdrop-to-desktop-from-games-solution/

Atomic
38  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Occasional crash/drop to desktop from games SOLUTION on: March 17, 2015, 07:56:54 AM
Ok, starting a new thread for this because it's on the bottom of another thread that frankly will disappear from the forums once that problem gets resolved.

Whilst browsing around the other day regarding the display driver uninstaller, programmed by Ghislain Harvey, aka Wagnard on the Guru3d forums...

aka this one, not driver sweeper... http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

You may or may not find the software handy. Nvidia at least offers a 'clean install' function these days which seems to work pretty well.

But I digress.

The discover I made whilst browsing around, was I came across a discussion thread regarding... you guessed it... display drivers, the uninstaller, and crashing etc... and buried in the thread was info about how the onboard audio controller... on the gpu... aka the one that feeds the audio data to the hdmi port so you can have your sound come out through a tv/onboard speakers... might be conflicting with the gpu itself. err.. basically.

Anyways, the suggested 'fix' is to disable the onboard device... which is tricky, since it doesnt say 'nvidia hdmi audio' or anything like that.

I went ahead and experimented with the fix since I dont actually use hdmi on this rig atm and...

So far, no crashing to desktop since enabling the fix, or rather disabling, the extra audio controller.

In windows 7, you do it by going to the control panel/device manager, scroll down to system devices, and finding your audio controller(s)... you should have two of them. you might have more. If you have one, it's good odds you either don't have one on your gpu, or you are actually using the one you do have, so don't disable it biggrin

Once you find the controllers, you'll have to disable/enable them one at a time, check the properties until you find the one that shares resources with your gpu... pci slot # is a giveaway, until you figure out which one does NOT cut out your system sound when you turn it off. Once you figure out which one, leave that one disabled, make sure the rest of your system sound is working properly, and keep track for a little bit to see if your crashing problem goes away, or at least gets better.

Here's the thread I was reading...

http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/73618-solution-to-frequent-wot-client-crashes/

Note the check for shared resources...

and please remember to disable from the system devices area first, as it makes other entries up the chain, disappear, since the device is disabled. Much easier to just do that. I have an nvidia virtual audio device still present on mine even afterwards in the sound video and game controllers section, and disabled that as well, as an example. See link below for visual.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-kTgk4PjhcROGpDU3IxN3J0T1U&authuser=0

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-kTgk4PjhcROGpDU3IxN3J0T1U/view?usp=sharing

Don't remove anything, just disable, and you can always turn it back on if you happen to tag the wrong item.

Atomic

PS: You can also check for resource conflicts with your other audio controller(s)... I read on yet another thread that the real problem is nvidia vs realtek, which is what most peoples on-motherboard sound solution ends up being... they're very common. This might or might not be causing issues. It probably wouldnt crash, since they made the audio drivers not part of the system process for windows somewhat recently... (vista? win7?) but it might show up as audio stuttering, crackling, static, etc.
39  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Well, the PC's got a new problem now.... on: March 16, 2015, 10:52:09 PM
Update: still no crashing... could this really be the big secret?

(updating with a link to my new forum thread regarding the crashing so people can find it for a while)

http://gamingtrend.com/forums/hardware-software-hell/occasional-crashdrop-to-desktop-from-games-solution/

Atomic
40  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Well, the PC's got a new problem now.... on: March 15, 2015, 07:59:20 AM
Oh btw. Was reading around on the Guru3d forum earlier regarding the driver uninstaller.

It seems that some of the crashing may be caused by the onboard sound controller on the gpu, which newer gpu's tend to have in order to feed sound to the hdmi port, might be conflicting with the gpu itself.

I disabled mine earlier and so far, no further crashing to desktop, although mine wasn't that frequent, and it's only been a few hours.

Atomic
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