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7321  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: There is no way the Wii can live up to the hype. on: October 21, 2006, 01:49:08 AM

Quote from: KePoW on October 21, 2006, 01:26:48 AM

Quote from: warning on October 21, 2006, 12:09:38 AM

Nothing... as long as there's nothing wrong with not outgrowing Nintendo kiddie type franchises.

I can agree with that, but Grue is making it sound like he dreads the day that he finds himself not liking Nintendo stuff

I just find that kinda strange, if you naturally outgrow Nintendo stuff, then so what?

Cause I do dread the day.  Nintendo, to me, equals good clean fun.  Sure, I love my zombie bashing and headshooting people, but my favorite games are the kind that are just plain fun.  Nintendo, for me makes those games.  It reminds me of playing at the arcade in the 80s when I dropped countless quarters into Space Invaders, Asteroids, Frogger, etc.  Video games had a simple innocence back then and Nintendo continues that trend today.  Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Donkey, Kong...the list goes on and all those games have continued to be fun throughout their countless iterations.  Nintendo manages to innovate while still recycling, but they also come up with cool new stuff like Animal Crossing and Pikmin.  So, if I ever get to the point where all I want to play is the next GTA or FPS, I will consider my youthful exhuberance for video games dead and its something I hope never happens.
7322  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: There is no way the Wii can live up to the hype. on: October 20, 2006, 07:40:08 PM

Quote from: jblank on October 20, 2006, 07:27:37 PM

Quote from: The Grue on October 20, 2006, 07:13:14 PM

Quote from: jblank on October 20, 2006, 05:51:59 PM

When I was 12, yeah, it was awesome, but at 32 (next week) its well......boring, to play it on a console. The fun just isn't there for me.

I'm sorry you are a bitter old man.  icon_wink

 I'll be 34 in December and if I ever feel I've outgrown Nintendo, I want all of you guys on this forum to promise me you'll come to my house and kill me.

 saywhat Who is bitter about anything? In your universe does someone saying they don't have fun playing a certain type of game anymore make them bitter? Thats pretty fucked up logic, excuse my French. Am I bitter because I don't play with Transformers or GI Joe anymore? After all, I don't play with them anymore either, and I did when I was a kid.

Tell ya what, I will make you a deal, you lay off insulting me over what I play, and I won't criticize the things you play. You know, kind of a thing where we recognize there are different strokes for different folks. Sound like a plan?

And once again you over-react to a joke.  I see it in threads you post in all the time.  I actually tried to anticipate it and I figured the wink smiley was blatant enough for you, but I suppose not.  Now, here's a rolling eyes one:  Roll Eyes
7323  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: There is no way the Wii can live up to the hype. on: October 20, 2006, 07:13:14 PM

Quote from: jblank on October 20, 2006, 05:51:59 PM

When I was 12, yeah, it was awesome, but at 32 (next week) its well......boring, to play it on a console. The fun just isn't there for me.

I'm sorry you are a bitter old man.  icon_wink

 I'll be 34 in December and if I ever feel I've outgrown Nintendo, I want all of you guys on this forum to promise me you'll come to my house and kill me.
7324  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: One Game At a Time: My Xbox 360 Purchasing Rule with Contest on: October 20, 2006, 05:46:10 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 20, 2006, 05:17:56 PM

EDIT- Ah!  I see no mention of the DS in your list, so that must be an exception!

Yeah, this is strictly a home console thing.  My portables are exempt.  The games are much cheaper and I play my portables much more than my home consoles.  Plus they tend not to be the type of games that I feel I have to concentrate on.
7325  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: There is no way the Wii can live up to the hype. on: October 20, 2006, 05:42:14 PM

Quote from: jblank on October 20, 2006, 05:33:01 PM

Quote from: The Grue on October 20, 2006, 05:08:54 PM

Quote from: jblank on October 20, 2006, 03:44:17 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on October 20, 2006, 02:35:55 PM

Outside of some gaming messageboards is there alot of hype?  And doesn't every console get hyped on gaming message boards?  I think it might be cool.  It will be different.  Does different automatically mean better?  Not necessarily.

Ditto. I started reading this thread and kept saying to myself, "What hype?".  People talk about it here and they talk about it on other boards, but I'm not hearing my fellow gaming friends slobber with anticipation of it (I personally only know 1 person that has it preordered) like I hear with the PS3.

My experience is the opposite in that I no nobody who cares about the PS3 due to it being perceived as too expensive and due to the limited supply.  I know plenty of people hyped about the Wii.

Then we run in very different circles. Most of my friends are 30+ IT guys that are "techies" I guess you would say.

So are mine.
7326  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: One Game At a Time: My Xbox 360 Purchasing Rule with Contest on: October 20, 2006, 05:14:37 PM
By the way, I have made the decision to implement this rule for all home console systems (with the exception of the Wii launch where I will buy like 4 games).  But besides that initial thing, I will only buy one game at a time for all my home consoles combined (PS2, XBox 360, and Wii).  So, right now it is Okami.  Depending on when I finish that up, the next game will be either Splinter Cell: DA or Final Fantasy XII (If I finish Okami before FF comes out and I deem there is enough time to finish Splinter Cell before FF, I will buy it).  Then, it will probably be Gears of War after I finish whatever the game before turns out to be.  I need to break out of this cycle of having to buy all these games at launch and not really getting around to finishing any of them because I have so many to play and this is going ot be the way to do it.  Oh, one more exception is GH2, because...well, because it's GH2.
7327  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Playlist 20/Oct/06 on: October 20, 2006, 05:10:10 PM
Okami, Okami, and more Okami.  As always, I will slip some DS love in there as well, but not sure what games it will be.  Probably Clubhouse Games, since I am about to finish level 5 in Stamp mode and want to see it to completion.  I should probably pick up Contact as well.
7328  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: There is no way the Wii can live up to the hype. on: October 20, 2006, 05:08:54 PM

Quote from: jblank on October 20, 2006, 03:44:17 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on October 20, 2006, 02:35:55 PM

Outside of some gaming messageboards is there alot of hype?  And doesn't every console get hyped on gaming message boards?  I think it might be cool.  It will be different.  Does different automatically mean better?  Not necessarily.

Ditto. I started reading this thread and kept saying to myself, "What hype?".  People talk about it here and they talk about it on other boards, but I'm not hearing my fellow gaming friends slobber with anticipation of it (I personally only know 1 person that has it preordered) like I hear with the PS3.

My experience is the opposite in that I no nobody who cares about the PS3 due to it being perceived as too expensive and due to the limited supply.  I know plenty of people hyped about the Wii.
7329  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ugh! Wii component cables available online only on: October 20, 2006, 05:05:50 PM

Quote from: Tebunker on October 20, 2006, 02:22:54 AM

I mean it IS the only truly HD console right? Amiright? Right? Not to mention having to buy HDMI cables to actually get 1080p


This is simply not true.  When XBox 360 releases the 1080p patch, you will be able to get games in native 1080p over component and both games and movies in 1080p over VGA.  That makes it and the PS3 both the only true HD consoles.
7330  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: There is no way the Wii can live up to the hype. on: October 20, 2006, 12:11:28 PM

Quote from: Old Negus on October 20, 2006, 06:14:41 AM

After playing TotemBall with my new Live Vision camera, I'm much less excited about the Wii. I know it's not at all the same thing, but waving my arms around just got old pretty fast.

Major Nelson brought this up on this week's podcast because a reader had commented on it.  My first thought was that people really have the mistaken impression that you have to flail around to get the system to recognize your actions.  In TotemBall, you have your arms stretched out and that definitely will bring about fatigue.  Everything I've read on Wii from people who've played is that you can sit there with your arms in your lap and make fairly small motions and it will recognize.

As for living up to the hype, it will live up to my own personal hype, just like the DS did and that's all that really matters to me in the end, I suppose.
7331  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ugh! Wii component cables available online only on: October 19, 2006, 07:54:58 PM
Well, crap.  Hopefully they will be available before launch so I can buy it ahead of time and have it for when I bring the Wii home on the 19th.
7332  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Good Commentation on the sensor bar and remote(Wii) on: October 19, 2006, 05:45:57 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 19, 2006, 05:28:49 PM

Sony is still making money?

Ha!  You obviously spelled Nintendo wrong, because we sure as shit know Sony isn't making money.  And yes I know you were joking (at least I hope so).  icon_lol
7333  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Is Xbox Live down again? on: October 19, 2006, 12:15:05 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 19, 2006, 04:08:41 AM

I'm trying to work on Marvel: Ultimate Alliance, but this is two days that I can't sign in.  Can't sign in = can't save.  :/

Wait...why would you need to be connected to Live to save?  You can still sign in locally on your profile without being signed into Live itself.
7334  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: SC:DA is good fun so far! on: October 18, 2006, 07:26:08 PM

Quote from: papasmurff on October 18, 2006, 05:31:22 PM

I just got the game at lunch today and I would have to say my only complaint, having only finished one training map, is the load times.  It takes for ever to load.  I posted this before it would load the next course, and I am still waiting......

Well, those of us with a PSP will be used to those kind of load times, then.
7335  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Extremely detailed Wii hands-on on: October 18, 2006, 04:54:31 PM

Quote from: Kobra on October 18, 2006, 04:50:48 PM

Quote from: Dafones on October 18, 2006, 01:09:19 AM

Another somewhat pesimistic thought: if you need to be eight feet or so away from the tv screen to play the games properly ... how the hell are the in-store demo kiosks supposed to work? That's a lot of open space that a store has to dedicate for a Wii kiosk. Forever, if they want to always have new games to try out.

Does that make any sense?

Rumor has it, only EBGames stores will get Kiosks due to the issues and the fact they will have to be closely supervised..

Not a good thing for sales IMO.

There have also been rumors that that rumor isn't true.
7336  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bully. Who's getting and who's got impressions. on: October 18, 2006, 01:39:00 PM

Quote from: Cleric7 on October 18, 2006, 01:25:01 PM


Again I'm not saying "Oh, this game is evil and shouldn't be on the shelves!" I just think it is worthy of debate -- young people are going to be playing this game, regardless of the ESRB rating (You wouldn't believe the number of children in our neighborhood who played Grand Theft Auto)

I honestly wish that game developers would apply the wonderful openness of the Grand Theft Auto model to subjects that aren't centred about thugs and gangs.

The problem is right there in your first paragraph that I have quoted.  Kids are playing GTA who shouldn't and how is that the fault of the game or game publishers?  If parents took a little more time to figure out what the content of GTA was, then if they let their kids play it, they get to live with the consequences, not the game makers.

I agree with you, though, that I wish developers would take the openess of GTA and apply it to different things.  There have been some, like Mercenaries, but I would welcome more as I am really tired of gangstas.  Bully is also a game that isn't about gangstas and thugs and I will probably pick it up.  It only has a Teen rating, so while maybe not good for little kids, I don't think it will be as bad as GTA and certainly not worthy of being called a Columbine Simulator.
7337  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: SC:DA is good fun so far! on: October 18, 2006, 01:28:26 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 18, 2006, 01:06:38 PM

I'd like to hear any comments on the framerate.

Well, the IGN review stated that it dipped below 30 at times.  However, we know the IGN review was written by some guy who was off tha hook.
7338  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: (Xbox 360) Splinter Cell Double Agent mulitplayer demo on Marketplace on: October 17, 2006, 08:32:44 PM
I am torn.  I really want SC and mostly for the single player.  However, I would like to try the multiplayer, but I only actually got into a game one time out of the tons of times I tried.  I hated the fact that I had ot exit completely out of the demo in order to cancel trying to connect.  Hopefully all that is fixed in the actual game.
7339  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [DS] Clubhouse Games Impressions? on: October 17, 2006, 08:00:20 PM
I bought it over the weekend and have really enjoyed it.  I have mostly been playing Stamp mode to unlock the extra games.  I did go online and tried to play Spades, but I could never get a game going.  I did get a Texas Hold 'Em game with another person going and when I was about to win, he disconnected and I don't think I got the win in my record, so that kind of pissed me off.  I didn't reconnect to see if maybe it just needed to update or something, so it might not be an actual problem.

There are a great many games in the software and some of them I didn't realize what they were until I played them because they are given names other than the trademarked ones.  For instance, Stratego, UNO, and Parcheesi are in the game, but with different names.  The game is great for quick gaming sessions where you just want to play something real quick and not have to think too much.  I think this will do well as a game that gamers and non-gamers alike can enjoy.
7340  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Extremely detailed Wii hands-on on: October 17, 2006, 01:21:29 PM
Wow, one guy posts negative impressions and everyone scatters.  If I compare these to all the positive impressions that I've read, this is just a drop in the bucket.
7341  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (10/16) on: October 16, 2006, 10:37:34 PM
I'm probably getting Splinter Cell and Contact, but nothing is definite.
7342  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Elite Beat Agents (DS) track list on: October 16, 2006, 04:30:46 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 16, 2006, 02:59:21 PM

I'm more pleased with this track list than some of the dreck on Guitar Hero II.

Blasphemer!!!!!!!!!!
7343  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Recap 16/Oct/06 on: October 16, 2006, 04:29:28 PM
I played Doom on XBLA, Halo 2, Okami, Star Fox on DS, and Clubhouse Games on DS.
7344  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: FFXI: Voice support? on: October 15, 2006, 03:22:08 AM

Quote from: Luminescent Pubes on October 15, 2006, 02:46:44 AM

dam, I was hoping I could run into a group of people and scream "O/\/\g i am teh sefirothe!!11 Clowd kilz me and mi mum kthxbai"

You can, it's just that nobody will hear you. smile
7345  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: "Must Have" XBLA Games? on: October 15, 2006, 03:21:14 AM
Don't ask me as I own most of them.
7346  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: (Xbox 360) Splinter Cell Double Agent mulitplayer demo on Marketplace on: October 14, 2006, 02:55:50 PM
I tried playing a match and had no clue what I was doing.  I was on the non-spy team and I couldn't see anyone, which I assume was part of the game?  I just kind of ran around.  The graphics looked very nice, though.  I will be getting this one and not for the multi, though if it is good, that is a bonus.
7347  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Online Service - more details on: October 14, 2006, 01:22:17 PM

Quote from: corruptrelic on October 14, 2006, 12:13:15 PM

wonderpug, that data is from july of last year! I'm sure that number is a lot higher than that now.

Microsoft is definitely pulling in some heavy money from Live no doubt, woudn't call it their "bread and butter" but certainly a good chunk of change for them each year. As long as people continue to pay to play and they always get new subscribers instead of losing them, why would they even consider offering live for free? Even if the PS3 online is 100% free (other than microtransactions), it doesn't effect Live at all if people are willing to keep paying for it.

But, what if people start choosing the PS3 over the 360 and one of the reasons is because of free online multiplayer?  Sure, they get money from their exisisting customers, but they don't get new ones.  Then, what if people who have both systems cancel Live because they perceive that they are being ripped off because they get free multiplayer on their PS3s?  There certainly are reasons for Live to become free.
7348  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Phantasy Star Universe on: October 14, 2006, 12:31:15 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 14, 2006, 03:48:43 AM

What's the point of Live enabled MMOs if you can't talk live?  Or did I miss something?  The world seemed very sterile and empty, which doesn't work for me in this day and age.

I know the game is coming out on systems other than XBox 360, but I am not sure if everyone plays in the same world or not.  So, either there is no live chat because of that or just because it is a quick and dirty port.
7349  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Massive interest in PS3/Wii this holiday season on: October 14, 2006, 03:03:57 AM

Quote from: Misguided on October 14, 2006, 02:45:39 AM

The fact that there's never been any "real competition" and now there is a legit competitor (particularly if you feel the PSP is inferior) speaks well for the Playstation name. That's all...end of point. This isn't about which is better or the impact of the PSP on the DS.

But the DS is better, though. AMIRITE???!!!!11111eleventyone
7350  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else give up computer gaming for the console recently? on: October 13, 2006, 08:50:38 PM
So, is it safe to say that PC Gaming is dead now based on this thread?  I kid, I kid!!!!
7351  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Playlist 13/Oct/06 on: October 13, 2006, 05:45:14 PM
Probably Phantasy Star Online beta.  Need to get back to Okami, as well.  I got distracted by travel and then haven't made my way back.  Also need to see if I can get back into Dead Rising, Enchanted Arms, or Test Drive or else they will be going to Gamestop for credit for Splinter Cell.
7352  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Interface Screens? on: October 13, 2006, 05:43:05 PM

Quote from: Arkon on October 13, 2006, 05:28:40 PM


If I can't hit a small button with it how well will I be able to aim for a headhsot on a mooving target then?  I am not trying to be snarky or anything, just seemed odd to me that the buttons are so freaking humongous, it throws up red flags for me that precision aiming of the WiiMote may not be tremendous.

Nah, I catch your meaning and all.  I just think the UI isn't the place to test out the wiimote's precision.  From everything I read, you can certainly hit a headshot on a running target with the thing, but I don't think the UI is where you want to show that off.
7353  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Phantasy Star Universe on: October 13, 2006, 04:32:48 PM
I was at 75% when I left this morning.  I assume it will be fully downloaded when I get home tonight.
7354  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii preorder = 10/13! (now with expected availability numbers) on: October 13, 2006, 04:31:53 PM
Got mine preordered this morning from Gamestop. My store had an allotment of 18 and there were actually more than that in line. I was 7th.
7355  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Interface Screens? on: October 13, 2006, 04:16:47 PM

Quote from: Arkon on October 13, 2006, 01:44:52 PM

Quote from: The Grue on October 13, 2006, 01:28:29 PM

Certainly not as slick as the 360, but people need to keep in mind that the reason the buttons are so big is because you will be using the wiimote to navigate.

Why do the buttons need to be big, I thought the WiiMote was gonna be super sensitive?

I believe it is, but do you honestly want to try to aim at a tiny button?  Think of the grandmas of the world. icon_lol
7356  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Interface Screens? on: October 13, 2006, 01:28:29 PM
Certainly not as slick as the 360, but people need to keep in mind that the reason the buttons are so big is because you will be using the wiimote to navigate.
7357  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else give up computer gaming for the console recently? on: October 13, 2006, 04:00:28 AM
By the way, there is a game on PC that actually makes me want to play again and that game is Neverwinter Nights 2.  I loved the original and what it offered and it seems like this new one might be much better than its predecessor.  I won't cave, though.
7358  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: xbox live downtime next week on: October 13, 2006, 02:35:55 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on October 13, 2006, 02:32:51 AM

I'm guessing this is the big Fall Update we've been waiting for.  Or at least I have.  There's supposed to be some major updates for the dashboard interface and with any luck another BC update that adds some classic and newer games. 
It's almost like you didn't read the post  icon_biggrin :

Quote
Q: Is this a Dashboard update?

A: Nope.
7359  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else give up computer gaming for the console recently? on: October 13, 2006, 12:50:14 AM
I recently gave up PC Gaming altogether.  I got tired of buying a new $400+ dollar video card every year and upgrading my PC parts every two years.  I have all the consoles, so I have no shortage of games and I find console gaming is usually less complex and involved than PC games, which suits being a dad and working.  Plus, it keeps from playing MMORPGs.  My current computer is only running a P4 3GHz Hyperthreading proc with 1G of RAM and a Radeon 9800 Pro (which just had its fan recently die).  Based on how I used to buy stuff for my PC, this is a very old system.  I think I bought all the parts in 2003.
7360  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii preorder = 10/13! on: October 12, 2006, 06:37:45 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 12, 2006, 05:59:28 PM

Also, isn't there a new Sonic game coming that is Wii-exclusive?  If that one turns out better than the horrid PS3/360 Sonic then I might be interested in it too. 


There is, but I don't think it is a launch title.  I could be wrong, though.  It might be a launch windows title, though.
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