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8121  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / My extremely late impression of Halo 3 on: June 04, 2008, 01:21:45 AM
Just finished. Primary impression was that it was very short.  I am surprised that Bungie didn't make the game a little more epic considering how they built it up. However, I thought the story hit a high note at the end of chapter 7 when

Spoiler for Hiden:
Miranda crashes into the control room and is prepared to sacrifice her life and kill the sarge to save humanity, but is then killed.

However then we descend into an extended battle with
Spoiler for Hiden:
the Flood
, my least favorite feature of the Halo universe and then end the game by
Spoiler for Hiden:
playing through the last level of the original Halo again.  Although I thought it was fun, at least.

And then what was up with
Spoiler for Hiden:
making you think Master Chief was dead until after the credits.  Was that necessary? How cliche can you get? And how exactly did a severed part of a ship have power for a hibernation pod?

It was pretty to look at and pretty fun, but I think Bungie blew an opportunity for something classic.
8122  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 04, 2008, 01:07:57 AM

Quote from: wonderpug on June 04, 2008, 12:37:01 AM

Quote from: Teggy on June 03, 2008, 06:13:29 PM

And my demo code still hasn't shown up yet.  I can't sit on hold at work trying to get one.  Boo.  icon_evil

Let me know how things work out for you.  I ordered mine from Gamestop online this afternoon and I'm curious how long I should wait before I try to fight the good fight on the phone.

Well, it hasn't come yet, and I gave up waiting on hold after about 15 minutes earlier.  At this point it's not a big deal if I don't get it by Thursday, but I would at least like to get it so I can get the extra gun. Although I think they have an out with "while supplies last".
8123  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Domination! on: June 03, 2008, 08:36:16 PM
Are we playing against people who use this crap?  icon_evil

http://www.gamermodz.com/modded_controllers/call_of_duty_4_mods/call_of_duty_4_rapid_fire_modded_controller.html
8124  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movie trilogies that got progressively better on: June 03, 2008, 08:28:49 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 03, 2008, 08:21:50 PM

Quote from: ATB on June 03, 2008, 06:48:07 PM

Episodes 1, 2 and 3 of the New (old) SW trilogy.

The first one is garbage.

The second one is ok.

The third is arguably the best movie of the series (though I've only seen it once).

So there.

1 was fun and fresh at the time.  It still holds up relatively well.  2 was the best by far, imho (and the opinion of many critics).  3 was only marginally better than 1.



I believe he is talking about episodes 1-3 and you are talking about episodes 4-6.
8125  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movie trilogies that got progressively better on: June 03, 2008, 07:25:45 PM

Quote from: ChaoZ on June 03, 2008, 07:11:02 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on June 02, 2008, 09:22:59 PM

Quote from: Kyosho on June 02, 2008, 09:20:24 PM

I highly doubt anyone would agree with me, but I'd say the Back to the Future movies qualify. They do in my opinion anyways. However, I was too young to see the first one by itself and have to wait for the sequels. The first one is more of a teen comedy, and if I was expecting mostly that from the sequels, I may have been disappointed. Some people say they got "too sci-fi." Well, whatever. I love them all. And I think the sequels improved upon the original.

Sorry, I just checked and it turns out that the order of quality for the BttF movies is 1, 3, 2, just as I had suspected. slywink

For the BttF movies, you can rank it (best to worst) 1,2,3 or even 2,1,3 but in no way can you say 3,2,1

The third movie was no way better than part 2. Impossible.

No, no, no. 2 is the worst.  It is a total mess with all the back and forth, and the reshoots of the first movie from different angles and the bad aging makeup. 1 is the best, and 3 is quite good, but not as good as 1.
8126  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty 4 Map Pack for the PC coming June 5th on: June 03, 2008, 07:20:49 PM

Quote from: kratz on June 03, 2008, 07:12:38 PM

That's.... not very descriptive... I don't know that I've seen a red cross... it gives you more health?

Correct, it requires more damage to kill you.  And I thought it was quite descriptive - it's exactly what happens when you try to shoot someone using juggernaut smile
8127  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movie trilogies that got progressively better on: June 03, 2008, 06:21:56 PM

Quote from: deadzone on June 03, 2008, 05:16:08 PM

Yeah I was going to say that the Resident Evil series seemed to get better and better- at least IMO.  smile

The first Resident Evil was pretty good.  The second one was laughable. I haven't seen the third one.
8128  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty 4 Map Pack for the PC coming June 5th on: June 03, 2008, 06:20:37 PM

Quote from: kratz on June 03, 2008, 05:21:31 PM

Which one is Juggernaut?

The PC version totally rules the 360 version... I still pretty much suck most of the time, but it's damn fun.  Some new maps will be extremely welcome.

Juggernaut is when you unload on some guy but he just runs away laughing at you flashing his little red cross.
8129  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: June 03, 2008, 06:18:36 PM

Quote from: JCC on June 03, 2008, 06:11:19 PM

I still really like this game, but am beginning to doubt if I'll finish the single player campaign. I am finding the restarting missions more and more frustrating. Almost any mission that involves gun play against a lot of combatants or chasing someone(s) down I fail at least a few times. I really wish I didn't always have to replay the whole mission over again. I did the "Deconstruction for beginners" mission a bunch of time, and riding that damn lift to the top of the building to snipe 3 people and then ride it down over and over again was driving me batty. Not to mention hailing a cab over and over again to get to the missions so I don't totally pull my hair out DRIVING to them repeatedly. ME WANT CHECKPOINTS IN ALL MISSIONS~!

Well, I think the important thing to remember is that the badguys are really not very aggressive.  There are a few cases where you'll suddenly find yourself getting flanked and not understand how, but in most cases, if you stay behind cover you can take your time picking guys off. In most cases you don't need to rush.  Even in cases where you appear to be chasing someone through a building, the guy is programmed to stop and let you catch up, then start moving again when you hit a trigger point.  This helped me a lot with the gun battles.
8130  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 03, 2008, 06:13:29 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on June 03, 2008, 05:43:44 PM

Though I understand how you would want the ease of throwing grenades like in COD4, I would like to see you try to throw a grenade without putting your gun away in real life slywink


How far can you throw grenades? While I have benefited from the long toss grenade in COD4, there are few things more frustrating than getting taken out by a grenade that you know has simply been blindly tossed halfway across the map towards a common choke point. I think I would prefer grenades with more realistic weight. (by the way, I have had 2 very cool grenade experiences in COD4 recently - a 3 kill grenade tossed ino the cave on Creek and 2 on the run tosses into the tiny window in Grandma's House on Overgrown, both resulting in kills).

And my demo code still hasn't shown up yet.  I can't sit on hold at work trying to get one.  Boo.  icon_evil
8131  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty 4 Map Pack for the PC coming June 5th on: June 03, 2008, 04:54:34 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 03, 2008, 04:27:46 PM

Quote from: Teggy on June 03, 2008, 03:53:48 PM

I've still never played Killhouse.  Or Shipment for that matter. Chinatown and Creek seem to be love/hate. I can't recall ever skipping Broadcast.

was Shipment an add on map for the 360?  I've played on it a bunch of times with the PC version.  it's a fairly small map, and it really stinks for your K/D ratio when a server that allows 50+ players has it in it's rotation and the server is full.

I think Shipment came with the original game, it just doesn't get used for team deathmatch because it's so small.
8132  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / What do you consider "camping"? on: June 03, 2008, 04:46:24 PM
[This thread will use examples from COD4]

As I am still a relative multiplayer n00b, I am trying to do my best to be a good online citizen and not do things looked down upon by the (co-ed) fraternity of online gamers. Such as using a grenade launcher in close quarters, bunny hopping and "camping".

So yesterday I came up with a way to play Broadcast that worked really well (I went 14-3 without any heli or airstrike kills). My load was an RPD with claymores/stopping power/deep impact. I went to the door to the parking lot near the dumpster and planted a claymore inside.  I then went through the bathroom and manned the large doorway to catch any enemies moving through the lobby from any direction.  I would periodically go back through the bathroom to make sure no one was sneaking up behind me.  Every once in a while I'd a get a "+10" meaning someone had tripped the claymore, and I'd go replace it with the second one. Rinse, repeat and I racked up a lot of kills.

Now, in my opinion, this is not camping - I picked out a part of the building to defend from enemy attack and I was actively seeking enemies to kill.  To me, camping is going into the bombed out building on Backlot and hiding behind the couch. Or crouching on top of the stairs to nowhere on District. These spots have no view of the battlefield at all and only result in kills when someone walks into your crosshairs. They also have no real strategic value to the team, because they are not holding part of a line of defense.

What do you think? Or is the whole think moot because claymores are noobish?

But I will continue to use martyrdom on Wetworks and Vacant, because you're stupid not to biggrin
8133  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Domination! on: June 03, 2008, 03:57:17 PM
Oh, so I came online yesterday and saw that Hiccup was playing, so I joined his game. It came up as Sabotage - I had no idea what I was supposed to do, so I quit out and went back to team deathmatch.  icon_redface
8134  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty 4 Map Pack for the PC coming June 5th on: June 03, 2008, 03:53:48 PM
I've still never played Killhouse.  Or Shipment for that matter. Chinatown and Creek seem to be love/hate. I can't recall ever skipping Broadcast.

I'm curious if there is any truth to any of the rumors that have been floating around for the next update. Things like allowing 2 attachments at 10th Prestige, getting rid of juggernaut, getting rid of martyrdom, more prestige, etc.  Probably none of those things will happen. But I hope they keep adding on, because I doubt I will be getting COD5. Not unless multiple sources cite it as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
8135  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 03, 2008, 03:38:23 AM

Quote from: ATB on June 02, 2008, 09:57:28 PM

Quote from: Teggy on June 02, 2008, 08:56:52 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on June 02, 2008, 08:51:02 PM

Quote from: Teggy on June 02, 2008, 08:16:42 PM

So how do you get the demo when you pre-order?  They are supposed to email me something? Is there some secret link on Live?

Yes there is, instructions will be in the email.  It's the same method that you will get any beta or early demo as well. Super Sekret way to get stuph on xbl slywink

Well then they need to send me my code chop chop! Stupid Gamestop, they probably sold my code used for $5 to some kid.

D00d- GO to the gamestop site, find the 800 number and call until they give you your code. They ran out for a time and had to replenish before they got me mine. DO IT NOW!

If it doesn't show up in my email tomorrow I'll call.  Dialed the number this evening, but hung up after the prompts because I didn't feel like sitting on hold. I always forget that I know the guy on the IVR - I used to be his contact at my company. Finished another level of Halo 3 and got my k/d up a .01 in COD4. I need to get in as much as I can before this game comes out!
8136  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 03, 2008, 01:06:53 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on June 02, 2008, 11:31:10 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on June 02, 2008, 10:46:39 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on May 30, 2008, 07:24:24 PM

I went gold so I don't have to wait until level 25 to get the 5 extra weapons.  I'm silly like that apparently.

There are 5 weapons you can unlock prior to the games release btw.  If you're planning on playing it's worth looking into it at the game's official site.  One is for preordering, one for signing up for the newsletter, one for ranking to max in the demo, don't recall where the other two are.

I need a weapon unlocking 101 rundown.  Do I have this right?

Five, and only five, weapons you can unlock prior to release?
Only one of which is from preordering?  (which one?)
Every other weapon unlocked through the game proper, but the aforementioned five you won't get until you hit the level cap?

http://badcompany.ea.com/page/dynpid/8616/

there's the info on how to get each of the five weapons. 

One is for pre-ordering and you get the code when you pre-order.
One is for signing up for their newsletter and you get the code when you do.
One is for hitting max rank in the demo and you get the code when you do.
One is for hitting 'veteran' status in the full retail game.
One is for checking your stats on their stats page after release.

The stats are like the PC version of BF2 btw, it's pretty similar to what H3 did.



I thought that you got 5 weapons unlocked by buying the gold pack or getting the top multiplayer rank.  Are there actually 10 unlockable weapons,  or are the "find the five" or whatever the same as the gold weapons?
8137  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movie trilogies that got progressively better on: June 02, 2008, 09:27:43 PM

Quote from: Kyosho on June 02, 2008, 09:20:24 PM

I highly doubt anyone would agree with me

Trust your doubts.
8138  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 02, 2008, 08:56:52 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on June 02, 2008, 08:51:02 PM

Quote from: Teggy on June 02, 2008, 08:16:42 PM

So how do you get the demo when you pre-order?  They are supposed to email me something? Is there some secret link on Live?

Yes there is, instructions will be in the email.  It's the same method that you will get any beta or early demo as well. Super Sekret way to get stuph on xbl slywink

Well then they need to send me my code chop chop! Stupid Gamestop, they probably sold my code used for $5 to some kid.
8139  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 02, 2008, 08:16:42 PM
So how do you get the demo when you pre-order?  They are supposed to email me something? Is there some secret link on Live?
8140  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movie trilogies that got progressively better on: June 02, 2008, 08:14:27 PM

Quote from: SpaceLord on June 02, 2008, 08:09:01 PM

Terminator kicked ass.

T2 is the best action movie of all time, imho.

Yes, and T3 wasn't bad, but not as good as T2.
8141  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I Bought My First Ever Bruce Springsteen Album on: June 02, 2008, 05:58:21 PM

Quote from: LordMortis on June 02, 2008, 02:42:06 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on June 02, 2008, 02:33:35 PM

I think his doing "Santa Clause is Comin to Town" was the total end from him for me.

He not only ruined the traditional song in his own version, but his version spawned copycat versions that have now replaced the standard in terms of popularity.

um, I'm pretty sure Bruce's version of the "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" is basically a cover of the Crystals version, so don't blame him for that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnB_AeRdOUM
8142  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 02, 2008, 05:49:27 PM

Quote from: ATB on June 02, 2008, 05:37:43 PM

Quote from: Teggy on June 02, 2008, 05:36:16 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 02, 2008, 05:22:21 PM

I did not know.

You deserve a Webby for that performance.

Brava!  Author!

He's lucky he was acting, because I pre-ordered during lunch, and I could not be held responsible for what would have happened.

Lolz. Can't wait to play with you.  What's neat is that my ineptness at this game gives me some small sense of the crushing lack of skills you have in COD4 and makes me realize what strong character you're building every time you turn on your 360.

 icon_biggrin

Spoiler for Hiden:
Totally kidding. slywink



icon_lol Sadly, there is some truth in there.  I'm realizing the simple mathematical difficulty in digging out of the .75 k/d hole I've gotten myself into. Maybe now with my newly learned shooter skillz (COD4 is the first online shooter I've played) I can start off on a better foot with BF.  Although more likely I will be getting gunned down by helicopter fire, stepping on mines and getting rolled over by tanks in no time.
8143  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 02, 2008, 05:36:16 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 02, 2008, 05:22:21 PM

I did not know.

You deserve a Webby for that performance.

Brava!  Author!

He's lucky he was acting, because I pre-ordered during lunch, and I could not be held responsible for what would have happened.
8144  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / GameStop Gamedays on: June 02, 2008, 05:30:05 PM
Was just in doing a pre-order and spotted this.  A bunch of decent 360 games for only $20 (FEAR, Godfather, Just Cause), some newer games for $30 (Condemned 2, Viking). Same for all other platforms ($10 for older gens). They do appear to all be of the "new but open box" variety, at least in the store I was in, in case that bothers you.

http://www.gamestop.com/browse/ProductMerch.aspx?groupid=133
8145  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movie trilogies that got progressively better on: June 02, 2008, 05:20:48 PM

Quote from: Gratch on June 02, 2008, 05:17:08 PM

Lord of the Rings?   Although, they really felt more like one big movie done in 3 installments.

Yeah, I could see a good argument there.  Looking at the list 2 I think could be argued would be Evil Dead, although I doubt you could get consensus there, and maybe the Bourne series.
8146  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Movie trilogies that got progressively better on: June 02, 2008, 05:15:45 PM
I feel like we have had lots of threads about sequels that were better/worse than their predecessors. However, on my way to lunch I had a random thought (as I often do) and tried to think of a trilogy where each movie was better than the previous one.  I could come up with lots of cases where the third movie blew it (Godfather, X-Men, Spider-man, Star Wars, Alien) and there are plenty of cases where the second movie blew it (Matrix, RoboCop, Back to the Future). The closest I could come up with off the top of my head was the 2nd Star Wars trilogy, but it's not like it ever made it past mediocrity.

Here is a page of reference if you are trying to jog your memory
8147  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Quiz: Super Mario Brothers Villian or Dinosaur? on: June 02, 2008, 05:04:24 PM
Wow, somehow I got 100%, but with the exception of Waluigi and Magikoopa, I was just guessing.
8148  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 02, 2008, 02:56:15 PM

Quote from: ATB on June 02, 2008, 02:55:35 PM

Quote from: Teggy on June 02, 2008, 02:10:37 PM

So will this have the staying power of COD4? Should I be looking into getting this?

Yes it will and yes you should.  Demo hits thursday for non-pre ordererz.

OK, I am saving this quote for evidence.
8149  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 02, 2008, 02:10:37 PM
So will this have the staying power of COD4? Should I be looking into getting this?
8150  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Panic on: June 02, 2008, 02:02:20 PM

Quote from: Inverarity on May 31, 2008, 06:01:25 PM

This thread says nothing to me about my life. Hang the DB(t1949)

I see what you did there.
8151  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: It's June 2008: What's Your GOTY So Far? on: June 01, 2008, 11:17:08 PM
Seeing as the only 2 games from this year I have played are GTAIV and Burnout Paradise, I will give it to GTAIV with a runner up of Burnout Paradise.
8152  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Domination! on: June 01, 2008, 05:57:39 PM
Oh by the way, yesterday I found what I believe to be the most obnoxious kit. It seemed like the entire team I was playing against on Wetwork was using shotguns with juggernaut and martyrdom.
8153  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: GT Instability Today? on: June 01, 2008, 02:52:40 AM
I was having those issues yesterday, but not today.
8154  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Domination! on: May 31, 2008, 09:39:34 PM
Finally made 1st Prestige. Now to try and improve my abysmal .75 k/d ratio.
8155  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Domination! on: May 31, 2008, 04:15:39 AM
Ah shoot, I forgot to send you a request Hiccup - could have joined up tonight. Anyway, right before I signed off tonight (sorry ATB, what time zone are you in?) I hit 54, so Commander is within sight. People always bash the ACOG, but I decided to give a shot tonight and tell you what, I like the thing on the M16.  It takes a bit of getting used to, but with whatever/stopping power/steady aim, it makes the M16 really versatile.  If you get caught up close, you can fire from the hip, and if you are far away, you've got a mini sniper rifle. It's worked great for me on maps like Countdown, Crossfire, Strike, Overgrown, Broadcast and Creek, and it even made Ambush almost bearable.  Tried out the mini-uzi on Chinatown and didn't do half bad, so I think I'm going to level that up to help me along to 55. 
8156  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How much hassle to cross the border into Canada? on: May 30, 2008, 08:38:46 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 30, 2008, 08:23:06 PM

Quote from: Rumpy on May 30, 2008, 08:15:55 PM

Yeah, you need a passport starting this year. Don't forget your passport!

wrong (according to border services)


Correct - you were going to have to have a passport starting this year, but the relaxed rules were extended to June 1, 2009.

Here is the US entry page - basically you will need birth certs for the kids and birth cert plus drivers license for the adults if you don't have passports. Some other combinations are acceptable too.
8157  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How much hassle to cross the border into Canada? on: May 30, 2008, 08:15:17 PM
I don't have experience crossing from MN, but I have crossed quite a few times at Buffalo, NY and Port Huron, MI.  It really depends on the time of day and the particular crossing.  Some of the Niagara Falls crossings can get really backed up, but I would guess the MN crossings are pretty quiet all the time. We intentionally cross very late at night to avoid any traffic.

You don't need passports, but we bring ours anyway just to make it easier. We also travel with our dog, so we bring her vaccination papers. The easier you make it for the border guys, the better.

The other thing to note is don't try to pull one over on the border patrol if you buy things.  They are looking for people with big ticket items to pay taxes on.  If you buy some small items, just say so (keep receipts, too). It's not worth getting caught, and they will most likely just let you go because it's not worth their time. It's sort of like going through the security at the airport - be nice and do what they say and you'll go right through.
8158  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Lost finale is tonight! on: May 30, 2008, 04:11:04 PM
OK, a couple things that are bugging me:

1. During the press conference, someone brings up the fact that Aaron being Kate's son makes no sense. They just let that go?

2. Maybe I'm not remembering it right, but I recall the description of the crash that Jack gave during Kate's trial didn't match the description of the crash given at the press conference.  I thought that Jack said that Kate was pulling people from the burning wreckage, where the new story was that they were under water and got out through and emergency door.  Again, I could be remembering wrong.

Also, Jack said that 8 people made it out of the plane.  Who were the other two and what happened to them?
8159  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Domination! on: May 30, 2008, 02:24:07 PM
Couldn't get on last night, although I sneaked on this morning for a few minutes and maxed out my M60.  Hoping to go 1st prestige this weekend, but I don't know if I have enough time.
8160  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The 360 needs a sleep mode on: May 29, 2008, 06:54:12 PM
That's just the screen saver - the system itself is still on, fans going, etc.  I want to be able to shut the system down with a button so it is using minimal power, and then with another press, return to where I was in a game. DS games also do this when you close the lid.
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