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7721  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Official] Rock Band 2 Impressions on: January 14, 2009, 03:18:43 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on January 14, 2009, 12:19:18 AM

I haven't had any problems with either the rock band mic or the konami karoake rev mic with my mic stand.  maybe I have a non-standard stand though.

Well OK, technically, I don't know if there is really such thing as "standard" clip, but most stands I have ever used have had clips that pretty much matched a Shure SM57/58. I thought it was a little odd that they made their mic significantly fatter than the most common mic out there. In fact, I'm surprised they didn't work out some kind of endorsement deal like they did with the guitars.
7722  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [English] Payed?? PAYED?!?! on: January 13, 2009, 10:53:23 PM
My wife and her family say "heigth" instead of "height". I guess that is supposedly a correct variation, but it drives me up a wall.
7723  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL Playoffs - AFC/NFC Championship Games on: January 13, 2009, 10:39:56 PM
I'd be lying if I said that I didn't want the Eagles to lose. If the Cowboys can't go, then no one from the NFC east can. But I'll congratulate Pete if they win.
7724  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Official] Rock Band 2 Impressions on: January 12, 2009, 05:16:13 PM

Quote from: godhugh on January 12, 2009, 04:54:41 PM

Quote from: Teggy on January 11, 2009, 11:33:22 PM

OK, another newb question - how does the game release songs to practice mode? When I failed out of Battery, it asked me if I wanted to practice it, but when I went directly into practice mode to play it it wasn't there.

If I remember correctly they unlock when you beat the song in World Tour mode or unlock whichever challenge it's located in. Not 100% sure on that.

I wonder why they did it that way? If you want to practice it, you're forced to go back and play the set, fail out and lose fans.
7725  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Official] Rock Band 2 Impressions on: January 12, 2009, 06:11:01 AM
OK, whose brilliant idea was to make the mic much larger than fits in a standard mic stand? However, I managed to balance it on the end of my stand so I could get the "along for the ride" achievement doing easy vocals while I played easy drums biggrin
7726  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Official] Rock Band 2 Impressions on: January 11, 2009, 11:33:22 PM
OK, another newb question - how does the game release songs to practice mode? When I failed out of Battery, it asked me if I wanted to practice it, but when I went directly into practice mode to play it it wasn't there.
7727  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Official] Rock Band 2 Impressions on: January 11, 2009, 08:05:21 PM
So I unlocked the Rolling Stone set this morning and took a quick look at the setlist to see what it had in store. Some stuff I already have no problem with, some stuff I haven't played yet, like Painkiller and Battery. I know Battery (the song) so I find a 1 song setlist that has it so I can check it out on medium drums. Oh, you can't play it on medium? OK, well lets just check it out. Intro is no problem. OK, the fast part is coming up.  1, 2, 3, 4, out.  This might take a while biggrin
7728  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Resistance 2 Impressions on: January 10, 2009, 08:02:29 PM
So I finished this up this morning - I can see overall why people were disappointed in the game, but really don't get the complete hate.

The way the 2 weapon limit was handled definitely got a little silly, in that whenever large enemies appeared, you knew it was your job to go find where in the area the heavy weapon was. I understand their goal was to give access to all the weapons earlier in the game, but it wound up feeling contrived.

I missed the vehicles from the first game. In the first game, when they threw a monster at you that you felt that no one guy could take down, they often gave you access to a tank or other vehicle to use. Plus, it mixed things up and they were very fun to use.

There were still a lot of very big and tense firefights, and I thought the Leviathan fight was one of the cooler boss battle sequences I have ever played. The bosses themselves were not difficult (which I didn't mind, but I'm sure others did), but at least in a few cases beating the boss was not about running around and shooting the boss until it was dead.

I didn't like the Chameleons, and I was kid of torn on the Grim. I didn't always enjoy fighting them, but there is something to be said for the amount of tension the developers were able to create by having you walking through large areas filled with cocoons. And yes, the very end was definitely a little odd.

Played a little co-op this morning which was very cool, and of course there is a lot of good multiplayer in there.

7729  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So...Killzone 2? on: January 10, 2009, 07:44:46 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 10, 2009, 03:34:35 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 07, 2009, 06:09:07 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on January 07, 2009, 04:54:33 AM

I'm a completist when it comes to game series that have an overarching story, and seeing as I never got around to finishing KZ1 I won't be grabbing KZ2 unless they re-release the original to run on the PS3's w/o BC on them or I pick up a PS2 slim to play some games like Kingdom Hearts.

I have a BC PS3, and I'm having a hard time getting through it, honestly. 

I'm actually still trying to plug through (though I'm guessing I'll do what Turtle said and watch the vids), and I have to say more than the imprecise aiming, the brown visuals, the ho-hum level design, the all-over the place difficulty...more than any of that what I hate the most about this game are the incidental voice overs.  There seem to be four things people say while in battle, "Kill him!" "Diiiiie!" "COME OOONNN" and the inexplicable "Over their heads!"  Add to that the faux Brit accents on the Hellghast troops, and it really becomes difficult to go through multiple battles in one sitting.

Quick question for those who played it, which character did you wind up using most and how often did you use them.  I'm finding the main guy, the average soldier to be a mild PITA.  The last level I played would have been better with the sniper, but I wonder if I can get through the levels faster with the tank (I've heard the last one is pretty useless).

I think I used the Helghan guy the most, occasionally used the girl and just about never used the heavy weapons guy (didn't like to be limited in where I could go). I think I pretty much stopped using the main guy once new people unlocked because I wanted to try them out and I liked the firepower of the Helghan guy. I might have used the main guy in the very last level, but I can't recall.
7730  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: And the Lettuce is not so Sensuous: 2009 Edition on: January 10, 2009, 05:45:34 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on January 10, 2009, 04:24:06 AM

So the arcade doesn't come with a mem card memory? where's the 256k memory then?
Huh. No headset either. Wow.

My arcade came with a mem card.
7731  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Official] Rock Band 2 Impressions on: January 09, 2009, 07:19:09 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on January 09, 2009, 06:54:22 PM

Quote from: Teggy on January 09, 2009, 05:50:15 PM

After reading some articles on Chris' site (and watching the associated videos) about what are considered the most fun songs for guitar, I think I am pretty sure I am never going to pick up the guitar controller again. That's ok, I'm happy to have "drum hero".

One of the great things about Rock Band 1/2 for me is that from time to time I will get sick of one instrument or another, but there are still things to do.  For a while I was playing drums all the time, then I burned out on the drums and have been playing guitar more recently.  I've even begun a vocal career on medium.  With so many different song/instrument combinations the game never gets old for me.

question: what is the difference between playing one instrument (by yourself) in a band career and playing that same instrument in a solo career?
7732  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Official] Rock Band 2 Impressions on: January 09, 2009, 05:50:15 PM
Looks like my triple cymbal pack will be arriving today, so I'm pretty excited. I didn't find out until after that fact that I had apparently gotten a really good deal - I just popped on Amazon and they had them for $36 shipped, but I'm reading that they are frequently out of stock and much more expensive.

After reading some articles on Chris' site (and watching the associated videos) about what are considered the most fun songs for guitar, I think I am pretty sure I am never going to pick up the guitar controller again. That's ok, I'm happy to have "drum hero".
7733  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Brawndo Commericals on: January 09, 2009, 04:00:31 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on January 09, 2009, 03:16:17 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on January 09, 2009, 03:42:18 AM

Quote from: Teggy on January 09, 2009, 01:57:15 AM

For people not aware, this was originally a tie-in to the Mike Judge movie "Idiocracy". The movie was essentially buried by the studio, but somehow the drink lives on.

....and the movie is funny and very true.

I tried giving Idiocracy a try a few weeks ago but it was just so incredibly heavy-handed.  Pretty much the entirety of the movie's humor was captured in the opening 4 minutes of Wall-E.

I agree, actually. It had its moments, but more often it was cheesy rather than funny. I think someone on the board should name their child Upgrayedd, though.
7734  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Brawndo Commericals on: January 09, 2009, 01:57:15 AM
For people not aware, this was originally a tie-in to the Mike Judge movie "Idiocracy". The movie was essentially buried by the studio, but somehow the drink lives on.
7735  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Why am I such a masochistic gamer, (or "Please sir, may I have another?") on: January 08, 2009, 06:31:25 PM
With CoD it's totally the level-up system for me. If I think I can level up by playing another 1 or 2 matches I will usually do it, even if I decided I should go to bed a half hour earlier. However, once I reached 1st prestige in CoD4 I felt like I had accomplished enough and moved on. I believe I am level 59 in CoD:WaW at the moment and haven't been as obsessive with it, probably because I don't enjoy the tank maps much. The other stupid thing I did for CoD2, 4 and WaW was play on hardened. I got some achievement points, but I think the games were less enjoyable because of it.
7736  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: looks like 1up and EGM aren't any more on: January 07, 2009, 07:29:39 PM

Quote from: EddieA on January 07, 2009, 07:13:00 AM

I guess, in retrospect, signing up for that 3 year subscription to EGM was a bad idea...

I didn't know anyone actually subscribed to EGM. I have been on free subscriptions for quite a few years. Every time one would run out, someone would post another free sub link. I figured they had gone to some kind of an ad supported model.

Regarding all the gaming news going to little blogs - I could see that somewhat, but I doubt game companies will send review copies to all of these sites.
7737  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Critique my Vacation (New Orleans) on: January 07, 2009, 05:58:31 PM
The food down there is so good, enjoy! Make sure to have a hand grenade. Just to be able to say you had one.
7738  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: *SHOCKER* Gamestop pisses me off again on: January 07, 2009, 05:50:17 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on January 07, 2009, 05:29:18 PM

But, I am not completely dismissing your point of view and I even went so far as to subscribe to Gamestop's weekly email notification for store specials to keep an eye out for upcoming trade-in specials.  It is at least worth a try given how many games I have sitting in a closet doing little more than taking up space. 

Have to throw my standard plug for Goozex in here. Unless you are averse to playing used games at all, it's a great way to get value for the games you don't play anymore.

But staying on topic, I too have pretty much stopped shopping at Gamestop due to the used game policy and the generally uncomfortable feeling I get dealing with their staff. I had kind of limited myself to buying new games or extremely cheap used games there to limit (or hurt) their profit, but that seemed kind of vindictive, so I decided I would just generally take my business elsewhere. Kind of sucks because there is one right by my house and 3 by my office. But I can go to Circuit City or many other stores that aren't too inconvenient, or just order online if I am willing to give up the instant satisfaction. But if it's not a brand new release I will generally use Goozex.
7739  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: My girlfriend snores... on: January 07, 2009, 05:30:30 PM
Does she snore regardless of whether she is on her back or on her side?  I am a really bad snorer when I lie on my back (possibly sleep apneatic) but if I am on my side I am pretty much fine. I got one of the pillows from Brookstone and while it can take a while to get used to, it at least does a good job of keeping you on your side even if you aren't using it perfectly.
7740  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / So...Killzone 2? on: January 07, 2009, 02:50:37 AM
Will there be a good crowd of people playing this? Looks really good and perhaps a welcome break from CoD for a while. Of course I'll have to get a headset working.
7741  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: Gilmore Girls Seasons 1-6 For Sale on: January 06, 2009, 10:14:34 PM
I'm not interested, but I will risk my man card and say that this is an excellent series, even for guys. If you have a wife/girlfriend you can score some points. And you avoid season 7, which kind of blew.
7742  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Street Fighter IV on: January 06, 2009, 03:12:08 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on January 06, 2009, 02:58:40 PM

Today is a really sad day... I had to cancel my order for the Tournament stick and the collector's edition of the game.  Not sure I'll get to play it now.

(lost my job today)

That sucks. Was this about the whole vacation issue?
7743  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Games Finished in 2009- Console & PC on: January 06, 2009, 03:25:55 AM
Finished games in 2008: 28
Gamerscore earned: 9550

Finished games in 2009: 23
Gamerscore earned: 11150

About the Teggy 10 point scale: Ratings are for single-player only. This is not a perfect scale where 5 is average, but I try not to weigh it too heavily toward the high end.  A "10" is a perfect game and its doubtful you'll ever see one - I didn't have any 10s last year.  8s and 9s are games I enjoyed a lot, but there were some features I felt weren't perfect. 6s and 7s, we're talking average.  Below 6 is a failing grade.  Bottom line, 8 is still a really good game in my eyes.  "Completed" means viewed credits. Additional Gamerscore comes from partially completed games or casual games.

Completed in 2009
Resistance: Fall of Man (PS3) - completed 1/4 - 8 out of 10
Resistance 2 (PS3) - completed 1/10 - 8 out of 10
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (X360) - completed 1/31 - 175 GS in 2009 (300 total)  - 7 out of 10
Tomb Raider Underworld (X360) - completed 2/28 - 8 out of 10 - 850 GS out of 1250
          Beneath the Ashes - completed 3/23 - 7 out of 10
          Lara's Shadow - completed 3/23 - 9 out of 10
John Woo Presents Stranglehold (X360) - completed 3/3 - 340 GS out 1000 - 8 out of 10
Killzone 2 (PS3) - completed 3/9 - 8 out of 10
Prince of Persia (X360) - completed 3/21 - 8 out of 10 - 1040 GS out of 1250
          Epilogue - completed 3/23 - 5 out of 10
Assassin's Creed (X360) - completed 4/9 - 865 GS out 1000 - 7 out of 10
Heavenly Sword (PS3) - completed 4/12 - 7 out of 10
50 Cent: Blood on the Sand (X360) - completed 5/29 - 430 GS out 1000 - 7 out of 10
Splinter Cell: Double Agent (XBOX) - completed 6/8 - 8 out of 10
Shadow Complex (X360) - completed 8/24 - 150 GS out of 200 - 9 out of 10
Prototype (X360) - completed 9/20 - 460 GS out of 1000 - 8 out of 10
Infamous (PS3) - completed 9/27 - 8 out of 10
Red Faction: Guerrilla (X360) - completed 9/29 - 735 GS out of 1250 - 9 out of 10
          Demons of the Badlands - completed 10/1 - 7 out of 10
Mass Effect (X360) - completed 10/10 - 520 GS out of 1050 - 8 out of 10
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PS3) - completed 10/18 - 10 out of 10
Halo 3: ODST (X360) - completed 10/25 - 525 GS out of 1000 - 7 out of 10
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack In Time (PS3) - completed 11/1 - 9 out of 10
Batman: Arkham Asylum (X360) - completed 11/9 - 655 GS out of 1000 - 9 out of 10
Modern Warfare 2 (X360) - completed 11/13 - 740 GS out of 1000 - 8 out of 10
Dead Space (X360) - completed 12/19 - 650 GS out of 1000 - 7 out of 10
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (X360) - completed 12/26 - 715 GS out of 1000 - 8 out of 10
7744  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Resistance 2 Impressions on: January 05, 2009, 07:30:40 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on January 05, 2009, 07:27:02 PM

I am shocked you liked the graphics.  I thought the game looked absolutely terrible from the first minute.

Oh, you know the other thing I like is the way you now see the highlight of someone you tag with the bullseye.
7745  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Resistance 2 Impressions on: January 05, 2009, 07:08:36 PM
Well, since I only recently got my PS3, I have had the somewhat unique ability to start playing R2 immediately after finishing R1. I have only played through the prologue and a good chunk of chapter 1 so far, and I have liked what I have seen so far, so I hope that it doesn't go downhill like some of the comments here have implied.

I was surprised by the comments on the graphics. Playing through the first game, I was really surprised (in a negative way) by the graphics. It sort of felt like Half Life 2 looked on the 360 - a little old. A lot of the items like desks and chairs seemed to have very basic textures. When I popped in R2, I could really see the difference. Character models, grass, lighting, everything really looks at least a generation ahead. The view
Spoiler for Hiden:
when you come outside in chapter 1 and see the bridge and all the dropships was amazing

I mostly welcomed the control changes - being able to aim and move was a huge improvement. I don't think I ever used the aim in the first game, with the exception of the sniper rifle. Being able to sprint is great. Having the secondary fire on the right trigger feels a little awkward. Not sure why they couldn't leave melee on the triangle. I guess it can be quicker on the stick, but I think having it on both would be fine.

I get the complaint about carrying 2 weapons. Being able to carry 9 weapons is not realistic, but in the first game, the weapon selection worked just like in Ratchet and Clank in that you would switch to a certain weapon for the situation. Whenever I came upon those hatchling guys, I would lay down the mines; whenever I was in a tight tunnel I would switch to shotgun; long range, sniper; Hailstorm is the only one I probably wouldn't use often as the rebounds seemed too unpredictable. In R2, you can't do that, and I would guess they had to adjust they way enemies appeared accordingly.

A couple of gripes that aren't really about gameplay. They kind of Halo-ized the game with the 2 weapon limit, but they also did so with the menus. It's like the same layout and font as Halo 3 - kind of weird. And the other thing was that I kind of wished they didn't jump ahead so far technologically. Something like 2 years pass between the first game and the second game and now they have wireless microphone/earpieces and all this fancy stuff. What was an alternate history shooter now seems more like a sci-fi shooter, at least in the beginning part.
7746  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Official] Rock Band 2 Impressions on: January 05, 2009, 06:35:07 PM
So I just got this as a present from my wife and set it up last night. This is my first guitar hero/rock band game, and I had always been reluctant to get them before because I play guitar, and memorizing patterns that didn't really correspond with playing the music didn't feel very enticing. But playing the drums is very, very cool. At medium/high you already actually playing an approximation of the actual drum track, and being able to learn to play some drums is very attractive. Too bad there is no way to do open/closed hi-hat, because it would be great if I could use the drums as a midi controller (which I have read can be done).

one question:

what is the game benefit (in tour mode or whatever) from playing on hard/expert? I am sticking pretty much to medium on drums right now as I get my coordination up, but are you prevented from unlocking songs/progressing unless you start playing on harder difficulties?
7747  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL Week 17 on: December 30, 2008, 05:01:43 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on December 28, 2008, 11:36:04 PM

44-3? Pete and Beefhamma must be dancing in the streets.

Teggy must be weeping bitter tears.

Turned it off slightly after halftime and then watched the Jets lose, eliminating the Patriots. Sunday sucked.
7748  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: rock band drums vs. guitar hero drums on: December 29, 2008, 05:03:14 PM
ah, are they readily available? how much do they cost? (sorry I only have phone internet access right now)
7749  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: rock band drums vs. guitar hero drums on: December 29, 2008, 04:41:01 PM
do you mean the standard rb2 set or with something attached? I guess I haven't seen what's changed between the rb and rb2 set.
7750  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / rock band drums vs. guitar hero drums on: December 29, 2008, 12:33:03 AM
Do the raised cymbals on the guitar hero drums make them sufficiently more realistic/better to warrant buying the GH Hero set and then the RB disc separately?
7751  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: COD5 35.00 at Best Buy this week on: December 22, 2008, 04:08:44 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on December 22, 2008, 03:10:04 PM

Quote from: mikeg on December 22, 2008, 01:02:47 PM

If someone could confirm for me that the SP takes like 12 hours on normal, then I might be in at $35, but if it is 6-8 like I am hearing, fogettaboutit.   I will never ever try the multiplayer on it but have enjoyed CoD SP in every game.  The only one with a long enough campaign to warrant a purchase, for me anyways, was 2. 

Anyone know the length on normal for a average normal gameplayer?  PS3 version is on sale in the $30's this coming Sunday at Target and I just might bite. 

It might take 12 hours if you die 100000000000000 times

Just play on Veteran, problem solved.
7752  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL Week 16 on: December 22, 2008, 04:00:49 PM
Yahoo playoff scenario generator gizmo:;_ylt=AtymKT5qfGOfwpUO3sgJLJMZc9AF

I still can't believe, after how many times the Cowboys have screwed up, all they have to do to get into the playoffs is beat Philly.
7753  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (12/22) on: December 22, 2008, 02:44:36 PM

Quote from: Eel Snave on December 22, 2008, 02:17:24 PM

OMG!  Candace Kane's Candy Factory! (swoon)

Sounds kind of dirty. That's on the DS?
7754  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Here comes the snow on: December 22, 2008, 12:49:45 AM
Wow, this snow just will not stop. News says that it should be tapering off soon, but I feel like its been snowing in some form or another since Friday afternoon. Between the two storms we definitely got more than I was expecting.
7755  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL Week 16 on: December 21, 2008, 04:29:08 AM
Well, I guess the answer to my question was yes, yes, they can play ever worse. Unbelievable.
7756  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL Week 16 on: December 21, 2008, 04:13:07 AM
Good grief, could the Cowboys be any worse?
7757  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] Ratchet and Clank Release Impressions - with bug info (And Ron's Review!) on: December 21, 2008, 04:07:58 AM
So I am finally getting to play this since I got my PS3 recently. For the first 5 or planets it was feeling very much like more of the same, and in fact seemed a little smaller scale than the PS2 games (less sidequests per planet). However, now that I am 75-80% into the game I have started to really enjoy it. I really like the story - it seems a bit more substantial than the past stories, which have really been very jokey. There is still lots of humor, but we are now learning a lot about ratchet's backstory and even see some emotion around his relationship with Clank. There's also less of Qwark - he can be funny, but he's basically had the same exact role in every game and it's gotten kind of annoying.

It's been designed in the typical R&C manner, which allows the game to be almost easy if you want, but still fun. I like to play the game by maxing out all of my weapons and upgrading my armor such that I can roll over the bosses. The game is still challenging, because there are swarms of enemies and they require different weapons to beat. I am not dieing very often, but I am not bored because I am always jumping around dodging fire and switching up weapons. Simply getting to try out all the different weapons is fun in itself. If you take some of the optional quests you also get additional help, including hints for finding the collectibles. They've also cut out some of the excessive parts of the older games, such as the huge areas you need to search for raritanium. Now you get raritanium everywhere, and you can use it to upgrade weapons before you level them up.

I can compare it to something like Lego Star Wars, which is definitely an easy game, but it can get tiring because all you are doing is hack, hack, hack (and the occasional pew pew).

So, all in all, it really is more of the same, but new weapons and good story are enough to keep it fresh. I do wish they would give descriptions for skill points - some are so vague there is no way you could figure out what you are supposed to do. I'm sure some people think the boss battles are too bland. And of course the game looks great.

7758  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / UbiSoft holiday price cuts [PoP, Far Cry 2, EndWar] on: December 21, 2008, 02:05:26 AM
Not quite as good as the $20 prices on Sands of Time and Beyond Good and Evil from back when, but the new PoP, Far Cry 2 and EndWar have all been dropped to $40 for 360 and PS3.
7759  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: My new toy (and a chance to say "I told you so")... on: December 20, 2008, 10:19:49 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on December 20, 2008, 09:30:35 PM

 One issue I have with the vacuum is that when you're using the detail attachment the floor brush continues to spin. 

That's surprising because I have a different Bissell model, and as soon as you put the handle higher than about 85 degrees, it stops the brush. In addition, it has a separate power switch for the brush, so if you want to make sure it is off no matter what, you can do that too.
7760  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Here comes the snow on: December 19, 2008, 10:27:42 PM
Been coming down very steadily since around 2:30 or so. Trying to decide when I want to do out and do some shoveling. Doing it in the dark sucks but better than digging out all at once.
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