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81  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Duck Dynasty on: December 23, 2013, 09:49:47 PM

Quote from: th'FOOL on December 23, 2013, 06:19:04 AM

Quote from: Rip on December 23, 2013, 06:02:29 AM

Quote from: th'FOOL on December 23, 2013, 04:40:03 AM

Quote from: Rip on December 23, 2013, 03:43:28 AM

Quote from: Mormech on December 22, 2013, 07:36:48 PM

Quote from: Gratch on December 21, 2013, 03:33:10 PM

This has nothing to do with belittling anyones religion and everything to do about not being tolerant of bigotry and hate.  Robertson happened to cloak his bigotry in in the Bible, hence why its even brought into play.

The reason there's so much confusion here is because his bigotry is mirrored by bigotry in the Bible.  I don't think there's any denying that the Bible is a bigoted, homophobic book in its own right.  So, when attacking his bigotry, he can claim that the Bible is being attacked, despite the fact that his elaborations are even worse than what the Bible said.

Both Phil AND the Bible should be getting condemned by society here, not just one or the other.


Are you going to condemn the Quran and Muhammad while you are at it?

And straw men! Let's condemn straw men as well!

So the Bible is a bigoted homophobic book but the Quran is not?

It is only a strawman if they are not the same on this point. I think you will find they are identical in their feelings on homosexuality. To call one bigoted and homophobic and not the other is disingenuous.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/026-homosexuality.htm

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Islam goes beyond mere disapproval of homosexuality.  Sharia teaches that homosexuality is a vile form of fornication, punishable by death.

So your argument is that anytime someone condemns one bigoted homophobic book it only counts if you condemn them all?

Exactly, hypocritical condemnations don't count.
82  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Duck Dynasty on: December 23, 2013, 06:02:29 AM

Quote from: th'FOOL on December 23, 2013, 04:40:03 AM

Quote from: Rip on December 23, 2013, 03:43:28 AM

Quote from: Mormech on December 22, 2013, 07:36:48 PM

Quote from: Gratch on December 21, 2013, 03:33:10 PM

This has nothing to do with belittling anyones religion and everything to do about not being tolerant of bigotry and hate.  Robertson happened to cloak his bigotry in in the Bible, hence why its even brought into play.

The reason there's so much confusion here is because his bigotry is mirrored by bigotry in the Bible.  I don't think there's any denying that the Bible is a bigoted, homophobic book in its own right.  So, when attacking his bigotry, he can claim that the Bible is being attacked, despite the fact that his elaborations are even worse than what the Bible said.

Both Phil AND the Bible should be getting condemned by society here, not just one or the other.


Are you going to condemn the Quran and Muhammad while you are at it?

And straw men! Let's condemn straw men as well!

So the Bible is a bigoted homophobic book but the Quran is not?

It is only a strawman if they are not the same on this point. I think you will find they are identical in their feelings on homosexuality. To call one bigoted and homophobic and not the other is disingenuous.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/026-homosexuality.htm

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Islam goes beyond mere disapproval of homosexuality.  Sharia teaches that homosexuality is a vile form of fornication, punishable by death.
83  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Duck Dynasty on: December 23, 2013, 03:43:28 AM

Quote from: Mormech on December 22, 2013, 07:36:48 PM

Quote from: Gratch on December 21, 2013, 03:33:10 PM

This has nothing to do with belittling anyones religion and everything to do about not being tolerant of bigotry and hate.  Robertson happened to cloak his bigotry in in the Bible, hence why its even brought into play.

The reason there's so much confusion here is because his bigotry is mirrored by bigotry in the Bible.  I don't think there's any denying that the Bible is a bigoted, homophobic book in its own right.  So, when attacking his bigotry, he can claim that the Bible is being attacked, despite the fact that his elaborations are even worse than what the Bible said.

Both Phil AND the Bible should be getting condemned by society here, not just one or the other.

Are you going to condemn the Quran and Muhammad while you are at it?
84  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: North Korea threatens final destruction of South Korea (now with Uncle killing!) on: December 23, 2013, 03:38:51 AM
You people need to get the fax facts straight.

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85  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Duck Dynasty on: December 22, 2013, 09:24:39 AM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on December 22, 2013, 04:13:52 AM

Quote from: Rip on December 21, 2013, 10:45:06 PM

My grandfather lived through it and he told me he never witnessed anyone mistreating any black people.  I am quite sure he was being truthful. was he a liar, racist, or maybe just maybe he didn't witness any. That is a stretch from saying it didn't happen and IMHO in no way minishes the events of mistreatment that DID happen.


In the segregationist South, black people were frequently barred from commercial establishments and were subject to all manner of arbitrary restrictions in places they were allowed to enter.  "Coloreds" were only allowed to drink from that water fountain, sit in those seats, attend that school, apply for that job or earn that fraction of the money a white person would get for the same work.  Every facet of those communities were engineered to ostracize black citizens and emphasize their second-class status.

I consider that mistreatment, and that's before we get to the parts with the fire hoses, attack dogs, and public lynchings.  Where, specifically, was your grandfather when he "lived through it" and can't recall anything black folks might have found upsetting?

-Autistic Angel

Farming his land in central Indiana. Of course he was probably lucky if he saw more than a dozen people a month.

You have to remember how much area was rural back then and not everywhere was filled with negro hating, cross burning former slave owners. A lot of those farmers and poor uneducated white folk had ancestors that fought for the union in the Civil War and were just as repulsed by the actions and opinions of the numerous racists that existed at the time.

Also I didn't say he didn't recall it I said he never SAW it, which is exactly what Phil said. Big difference.
86  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Duck Dynasty on: December 21, 2013, 10:45:06 PM

Quote from: Gratch on December 21, 2013, 04:18:41 PM

Identifying someone as black isn't the issue.  The issue is his wave-of-the-hand dismissal of the challenges African-Americans faced because he "didn't see them".

I'll bet that those who lived through the pre-Civil Rights era would strongly disagree about the lack of mistreatment.  Just IMO, of course.

My grandfather lived through it and he told me he never witnessed anyone mistreating any black people.  I am quite sure he was being truthful. was he a liar, racist, or maybe just maybe he didn't witness any. That is a stretch from saying it didn't happen and IMHO in no way minishes the events of mistreatment that DID happen.
87  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Duck Dynasty on: December 21, 2013, 10:41:57 PM

Quote from: Gratch on December 21, 2013, 04:18:41 PM

Identifying someone as black isn't the issue.  The issue is his wave-of-the-hand dismissal of the challenges African-Americans faced because he "didn't see them".

I'll bet that those who lived through the pre-Civil Rights era would strongly disagree about the lack of mistreatment.  Just IMO, of course.

I don't see where his saying he didn't witness it is equal to saying it didn't exist. If I say I never saw any Jews persecuted mean I am dismissing what they have been subjected to. If I say I have never personally seen any gays beaten up or ridiculed am I dismissing the evidence that they have. Sounds like people are attaching meaning to his words that isn't there.

Perhaps it would be preferential for him to dawn the proverbial Hillary negro accent and profess a bunch of lies to tell people what they would like to hear like he was running for office?
88  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Duck Dynasty on: December 21, 2013, 05:21:22 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on December 20, 2013, 04:10:31 PM

Quote from: Gratch on December 20, 2013, 02:05:36 PM

While I'm sure it's going to cost them significantly, I applaud A&E for having the balls to show that they're not willing to have the guy spouting bigoted and racist bullshit be one of the major public faces representing their network. 
hopefully it will just kill the show.

Hardly, just going to make it even more popular. Just maybe not on A&E. Although I suspect A&E will work hard to prevent that from happening.
89  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NBA2k14 on: December 11, 2013, 12:26:04 AM
Could be the simulation logic doing that. I never accel the game. I like to watch the team and see how they play without me.

Also make sure you turn on the display of plays in the presentation settings and also "Run Plays" wherever that setting is. Without playcalling on the game turns into an Isolation/Pick and Roll fest.
90  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: 'Historic mistake': Israelis, Republicans condemn Iran nuclear deal on: November 24, 2013, 06:12:35 PM
I put up a poll on OO to see how many people think this will work.

Another move that has an unexpected upside for me. I never expected it to be possible to push Israel and Saudi Arabia into becoming allies, but there you have it.
91  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Harry Reid Leaning Toward Filibuster Reform Vote This Week on: November 23, 2013, 07:47:11 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on November 23, 2013, 03:20:31 PM

Quote from: ATB on November 23, 2013, 05:45:06 AM

No outrage at this?

What if the repubs had done it?


I'm not sure what question you're asking.

If you're wondering whether there would be outrage if modern day Republicans suddenly voted en masse to strip away their own ability to filibuster presidential appointments for no reason, I think Conservative voters would be absolutely livid.  These Republicans were elected on an open platform of generating gridlock, rejecting all compromise, and absolutely blocking every action President Obama tries to take.  Giving up one of the main obstruction tools would guarantee they'd be primaried by challengers even further to the Right.

Or are you wondering about the outrage level if we lived in an alternate dimension where Democrats had spent half a decade abusing parliamentary procedures to frustrate a Republican president -- repeatedly wounding the national economy in the process -- and now a Republican majority was finally taking steps to reinstate a minimal level of governmental functionality?  In that case, I'd point out that people in such a universe would say "goodbye" when they arrived, "hello" when they left, and that "outrage" would be a synonym for "euphoric indifference."  It would also be against the law.

-Autistic Angel

Well there is one thing that can be confirmed without the need of Congress. That you are obtuse.

 thumbsdown
92  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Marvel: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. on: November 22, 2013, 05:52:03 AM

Quote from: rittchard on November 21, 2013, 11:05:32 PM

Whatever!  I finally got some Agent Ward beefcake!!!

You could at least wipe it off now.
93  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Person of Interest - Season 3 starting on: November 20, 2013, 04:35:17 AM
The death of a main character and it wasn't who everyone thought.

Spoiler for Hiden:
We will miss you Det. Carter.
94  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NBA2k14 on: November 19, 2013, 01:59:39 PM
PS4/XBone version is totally different than current gen versions. Next gen appears to me to be a move in the "Free to Pay again" direction.

It looks nice but microtransactions are the devil!
95  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NBA2k14 on: November 18, 2013, 11:24:25 PM
Are we talking the next gen PS4 version or current gen? I play current gen on the PC but would lke to check out the next gen version. Just not enough to by a PS4.
96  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Toronto Mayor Rob Ford - the Pure Embodiment of Political Nonsense! on: November 16, 2013, 05:32:42 AM
He could have meant cat. Now you know what happened to all those stray cats in Toronto.
97  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Toronto Mayor Rob Ford - the Pure Embodiment of Political Nonsense! on: November 08, 2013, 07:20:53 AM
I can't watch anything of this guy without cracking up, he makes me think of Chris Farley too much.

It isn't enough that he looks like him but it seems everything he does looks like it could come right out of one of his skits.

98  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Grand Theft Auto V on: November 05, 2013, 04:53:52 AM
I watched like three hours of video of people playing this weekend.   smoke

I figure by the time it comes out on the PC I will already know the storyline paths and where all the cool shit is hidden. I can see my son now watching me play after just downloading it and going right to everything.

"How did you know that was there?" How did you know that?"

I will just smirk and tell him it is because daddy is ten times the gamer you will ever be. I know where to find loot in games they haven't even written yet.

 icon_biggrin
99  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2013 -- Week 9 on: November 05, 2013, 04:48:19 AM
Andre Johnson is a ball hog.

Oh wait that is basketball isn't it?    unibrow
100  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Shooting at LAX on: November 04, 2013, 11:07:14 PM
If you want to throw your opinion out there don't be surprised when there are people who think your opinion stinks, and when that opinion is on a controversial issue to think it won't illicit a response is ludicrus.
101  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Shooting at LAX on: November 04, 2013, 06:45:54 PM
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compareyears/194/rate_of_gun_homicide

Yet the rate of gun homicides per 100K people is as low as it has been for sometime.
102  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2013 -- Week 9 on: November 04, 2013, 12:07:44 AM
naednek we saw what you did!

Deleting it WILL NOT undo the damage.    Tongue
103  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I just made a new thread on: November 02, 2013, 06:57:04 PM

Quote from: Scraper on November 01, 2013, 02:40:30 PM

Why hasn't a mod responded?

Because this is a boys club full of elitists.
104  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I just made a new thread on: October 31, 2013, 11:08:28 PM

Quote from: Exodor on October 31, 2013, 11:04:07 PM

I just posted in this thread.





Just make sure you clean it up.
105  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: What will Obama's Scandals Be? on: October 30, 2013, 04:36:55 AM

Quote from: Purge on October 30, 2013, 04:25:27 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on October 30, 2013, 04:14:43 AM

goddamn...



Magic is dead. I've heard her talk.

Nothing a ball gag won't fix.
106  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: What will Obama's Scandals Be? on: October 30, 2013, 04:35:40 AM
The only thing that surprises me is how many people actually thought that when he said "No matter what you have heard, I'm telling you. You can keep you insurance if you like it. You can keep your doctor."

Dupes.

Anyway in reference to this piece of the lie.

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None of this should come as a shock to the Obama administration. The law states that policies in effect as of March 23, 2010 will be “grandfathered,” meaning consumers can keep those policies even though they don’t meet requirements of the new health care law. But the Department of Health and Human Services then wrote regulations that narrowed that provision, by saying that if any part of a policy was significantly changed since that date -- the deductible, co-pay, or benefits, for example -- the policy would not be grandfathered.

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Buried in Obamacare regulations from July 2010 is an estimate that because of normal turnover in the individual insurance market, “40 to 67 percent” of customers will not be able to keep their policy. And because many policies will have been changed since the key date, “the percentage of individual market policies losing grandfather status in a given year exceeds the 40 to 67 percent range.” 
That means the administration knew that more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them.
Yet President Obama, who had promised in 2009, “if you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan,” was still saying in 2012, “If [you] already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance.”
“This says that when they made the promise, they knew half the people in this market outright couldn’t keep what they had and then they wrote the rules so that others couldn’t make it either,” said  Robert Laszewski, of Health Policy and Strategy Associates, a consultant who works for health industry firms. Laszewski estimates that 80 percent of those in the individual market will not be able to keep their current policies and will have to buy insurance that meets requirements of the new law, which generally requires a richer package of benefits than most policies today.

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/28/21213547-obama-admin-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance

Note that is an NBC story, where if it is about the administration and it bad you know it has to be true or no way in hell would they print it.

Face it what he aws saying was not true and HE KNEW it. Well in as much as he seems to know anything.
107  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2013 -- Week 8 on: October 25, 2013, 11:04:51 PM
Bitch needs to put some stickum on her hands.

 icon_twisted
108  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Marvel: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. on: October 24, 2013, 04:14:16 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 23, 2013, 11:26:08 PM

Quote from: Blackjack on October 23, 2013, 08:46:35 PM

Quote from: hepcat on October 23, 2013, 07:03:30 PM

It got a little better last night, but I still feel like I'm watching something with the Whedon name on it...that I eventually find out was written by his nine year old nephew.
You're not far off  icon_smile The showrunners are Joss' brother Jed Whedon, sister-in-law Maurissa Tancharoen and Jeffrey Bell.

So if it doesn't feel like a Joss Whedon show (imho, aside from some fun moments in last week's episode, it hasn't) it's probably because Joss is busy with Avengers: Age of Ultron, chiming in on Marvel's other film projects and probably doesn't have much time to be involved with Agents beyond some story note stuff. For the most part, the show just doesn't seem to have the snappy dialogue and characters of a Joss Show.

I really did enjoy last week's episode and felt like it had more "Joss-like" touches in it. I finally got home from work early enough to watch most of this week's episode on TV but I just found it OK.

Maybe they would've been better off just calling the show "Coulson" and building the show more closely around that character, rather than having a bunch of generally vanilla ensemble characters that neither hardcore Marvel fans nor the general TV viewing public seem to have much interest in, to this point.

imho, Melinda May could become the most popular, interesting character if they would consistently give her something more interesting to do than "drive the bus" and grumble to Coulson about this and that. She has a fascinating back story, why not give us more insight into it? Rather than continuing to fixate on the "too gorgeous to be a hacker" hacker?

I'm reminded of NBC's failed "Bionic Woman" remake (2007) where they had a tremendous actress (Katee Sackhoff) playing a psychologically messed up first bionic woman who (imho) was way more compelling as a recurring character, than the "new" and too bland first bionic woman. I was like, "You clods should've done a show about the messed up first bionic women, and fanboys would've flocked to see Katee Sackhoff every week."

I think you're right about Ming Na's character.  She's already a favorite in our house, and I have to imagine she'll get cooler and cooler stuff to do as the show goes on.

I loved when Skye opened the door and there she was. I don't know that it has so much to do with acting (although that is important with the setup) as the perfect situation and all she had to do was shine that stoic look. The acting on the part of Skye sold it really well, the look on her face was perfect.
109  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Person of Interest - Season 3 starting on: October 23, 2013, 09:35:39 PM
I loved seeing Shaw truly bond with someone. Entire time I am thinking "anyone that hurts that girl is going to pay dearly".

Also loved the Carter scene at the end. I could tell she knew they were about to try and manhandle her and I was trying to think who might help her. Pleasantly surprised to see she didn't need ANY help.

A little worried about the Shaw/Root tease. I am enjoying both characters and don't want to see the edginess of the relationship make me like either one less.
110  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Blacklist on: October 22, 2013, 06:13:52 AM

Quote from: Roman on October 22, 2013, 04:49:16 AM

well we got some much needed traction on the whole box in the floor storyline. Can't wait to see how it all plays out.

Yea it came to a head. I wish I could have read more of what the stuff in the file was about. This may be one where I would like to go look at some freeze frames later on.

The preview hinted at him having some lover as well. Next week should be pretty exciting as it looks as if much of that story will be told.

edit: The dream was pretty cool as well, although I pretty much knew it was a dream about two seconds in.
111  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Euro Truck Simulator 2 on: October 20, 2013, 03:32:48 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on October 20, 2013, 03:40:42 AM

we got WoT and now more WoT, we have WoW and WoW... they need to come up with more acronyms.

To me it stands for World of Turd until I can actually drive in a universe with my friends.

A website for sharing pictures and some cyber masterbation fantasy of running a virtual trucking company if as useless as tits on a boar.
112  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Euro Truck Simulator 2 on: October 20, 2013, 03:29:47 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 20, 2013, 02:41:03 AM

Take your time.

He is....he just wants to know what that sign says! SO do you know or not?



 Tongue icon_lol
113  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Grand Theft Auto V on: October 20, 2013, 03:27:37 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 20, 2013, 03:42:13 AM

Actually, haven't cut the cellophane yet.


ANYONE HAVE A USED COPY FOR SALE?

Someone(ibdoomed) had posted one on OO.
114  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Grand Theft Auto V on: October 19, 2013, 06:13:26 PM

Quote from: jztemple2 on October 14, 2013, 03:08:00 AM

Anyone done the third triathlon yet?
Spoiler for Hiden:
Holy crap. Swimming, biking and running, which in GTAV means pressing the "A" button over and over and over again. Got first place, although the game probably gave me a little help, and oh yeah, I kept cutting in front of my pursuers. Final time was 28:23.133. That's right, almost a half hour of pressing that damn "A" key over and over again  eek

Someone needs to make an XBOX controller with autofire. I had a joystick that had that more than ten years ago, I am surprised no one has done it yet. Thankfully if I ever get to play this it iwill be when it comes on the PC where I can add my own autofire.     slywink
115  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] Blade Runner prequel or sequel coming? on: October 18, 2013, 12:41:39 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 18, 2013, 12:34:08 PM

yes, but it *has* been retconned, and deviated from the original story in doing so. Tongue slywink

This and allow me to add that for a writer to disclose what he had in mind when writing a story is as bad of an idea as a songwriter discloses what a song was really about.

I can't recall who or were but I recall reading a story recently about a song and the meaning of it and the songwriter correctly declined to say explaining that the song meant different things to different people and he didn't want to rob them of what the story being told by the song was to them because a really good song (like a movie) means different things to different people.
116  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] Blade Runner prequel or sequel coming? on: October 18, 2013, 12:22:27 PM

Quote from: TiLT on October 18, 2013, 04:32:20 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 17, 2013, 11:52:07 PM

I was quoting you back to you.

Okay, let me try a different approach since this obviously isn't working. Tongue

Imagine Schrödinger's Cat. Someone has locked a cat in a box, and we're arguing whether or not the cat is alive. As long as we can't observe it, it's both alive and dead, and our own theories are just as valid as anyone else's.

But then the person who puts the cat in the box reveals that he knows that the cat is dead. People can decide not to believe him, but at the end of the day, the cat is still dead.

It's not a perfect analogy (personal interpretation isn't blind faith when it comes to movies, after all), but it'll hopefully make my point clearer.

Or to repeat myself from earlier in the thread: You can have any interpretation you want of Blade Runner, and it'll be perfectly valid as your personal interpretation no matter what happens. However, once you decide to share your interpretation in public, you'll always have to face the fact that the official word says you're wrong. That does not invalidate your personal opinion.

So if you were quoting me, this is what you should have been quoting. Instead you think I'm telling you that you can't have a personal interpretation when there's an official word out there, despite me trying over and over to make it clear that I'm not saying any such thing.

Yet we still don't KNOW if the cat is alive or dead. The person who put the cat in the box could be a liar, delusional, or the cat just appeared dead. Either way the cat is both alive and dead.

Yesterdays official word is tommorrows changed interpretation, misquoted, or just revised official word.

These shows are like soap operas, just because someone is dead today doesn't mean they won't be back. So Decker may have been a replicant in the writer's mind when he penned the story but that doesn't preclude him from not being one in the next movie.
117  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Marvel: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. on: October 18, 2013, 12:12:37 PM
I am amused at people being unhappy that characters in a superhero show are dissappointing because they do things and think unrealistically. As if ANYTHING they do or think is at all realistic.

A bunch of comic book shrews.
118  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHUTDOWN!!!!!! Sequel is in the works, slated for Q1 2014 release on: October 18, 2013, 12:06:49 PM
1. There were more than just TP republicans that decided to oppose the CR.
2. A vast majority of them supported the agenda they were pursuing, just not this approach.
119  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 16, 2013, 07:54:19 PM

Quote from: raydude on October 16, 2013, 12:34:32 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on October 16, 2013, 02:02:47 AM

heh.  if you look closely, the guy in front of her wearing a dark blue cap is wearing a white coat that is blending in with her pasty white skin.

Um, if that blue cap guy belongs to the white coat body and hands then he has a seriously elongated neck. I think there is a short senior citizen lady with white hair (you can see it poking out of the forehead of the girl with backpack) wearing a white sweater holding her hand up.

This.
120  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 09, 2013, 11:52:32 PM

Quote from: Gratch on October 09, 2013, 03:41:06 PM

Quote from: Rip on October 09, 2013, 02:51:11 PM

You wouldn't even need that. The republicans have tried to take the approach of sending on the stuff everyone can agree on so it can be whittled down to budget areas where there are differences. That was not acceptable to Reid/Obama. They fear loosing leverage for the stuff they know wouldn't get through. Both sides are more worried about getting their less popular pet issues through than the most important meat items that neither one dares oppose.

Right. Because that's how a government should be budgeted and run. Defund everything, then refund things one at a time in a knee-jerk fashion, based on whatever the media happens to focus on.

I didn't say it should, I was just pointing out that the suggestion was something already attempted.
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