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121  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 03, 2013, 10:36:10 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 03, 2013, 10:09:14 PM

Not that I in any way condone the tactics of the republicans, but I can't see any way Obama can let the debt ceiling not be raised.    Yes don't give into threats and all that, but can we let the world economy implode to make that stand?    Sometimes the person making the threat wins if what they are threatening is something that cannot be allowed to happen.



He can and there will be a huge group here cheering him every step of the way.

Kind of disorienting when the opposite approach is used when it comes to dealing with foreign governments. They have never taken a strong stand against the likes of Pakistan, Syria, Russia, Iran, etc.
122  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 03, 2013, 12:53:23 PM
Am I the only one that finds it funny that they are in places using more manpower trying to shut things down and prevent people from accessing them than keeping them open require?

Closing off parkings spaces (for place like MV they can't shut down because they don't fund them) and bike trails along the Chesapeake and Ohio Canal.

The Barrycade business is booming!
123  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 03, 2013, 04:19:58 AM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on October 01, 2013, 03:32:51 PM

The House will pass a clean CR.

Any minute now.


 Torches and Happiness!
124  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Breaking bad as good/bad as usual! on: October 01, 2013, 10:18:52 PM
Stolen from Toe's post on OO.

Jesse Pinkman: One Sorry Individual
125  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 01, 2013, 05:24:29 PM

Quote from: th'FOOL on October 01, 2013, 04:16:26 PM

Quote from: Rip on October 01, 2013, 04:01:08 PM

Situation is what situation is, it didn't get there overnight in a vacuum.

You keep on saying this as if it somehow equivocates the two party's approaches.

You say that as if I feel any need to. They are all pretty much a bunch of worthless crooked douchebags.

They are all acting pretty much in the exact way I have come to expect them to act. ALL of them, I am not the one trying to blame one side.
126  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 01, 2013, 04:02:17 PM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on October 01, 2013, 03:32:51 PM

The House will pass a clean CR.

By traitor?
127  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 01, 2013, 04:01:08 PM

Quote from: Gratch on October 01, 2013, 03:31:59 PM

Quote from: Rip on October 01, 2013, 03:23:29 PM

That is nice but you can make her go to school, you can't make the house pass the CR. So if you would be happy to let your kid miss school to keep her from having cookies this is right up your alley, but as long as she actually goes to school it doesn't apply.

And therein lies the problem.  The current situation is the equivalent of Little B pulling a gun on me and threatening to shoot unless I gave her cookies.

Situation is what situation is, it didn't get there overnight in a vacuum.

As far as Little B, given the current situation, I would suggest you tread lightly.    icon_biggrin
128  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 01, 2013, 03:23:29 PM

Quote from: Gratch on October 01, 2013, 03:13:46 PM

Quote from: Rip on October 01, 2013, 02:57:32 PM

As I said it has happened. Now we get to see how long it takes before they realize that they will have to compromise at least a little bit or it may last till next election or longer.

I have a rule - a law, as it were - in my house that Little B 4.6 doesn't get any cookies after breakfast.  When she throws a tantrum about this and refuses to go to school until she gets cookies, I don't compromise and give her one cookie.  In what would that make sense to do?  I tell her that those are the rules of the house and she needs to follow them.  Same principle applies here.

The ACA is law, whether the GOP likes it or not.  You lost the fight at every level up to and including the Supreme Court...get over it.  Throwing a temper tantrum that affects millions of people's livelihoods then crying because the big bad Dems won't compromise with you is absurd.  Thankfully, all but the derpiest of the citizenry is seeing it for what it is.

That is nice but you can make her go to school, you can't make the house pass the CR. So if you would be happy to let your kid miss school to keep her from having cookies this is right up your alley, but as long as she actually goes to school it doesn't apply.
129  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 01, 2013, 02:57:32 PM

Quote from: Teggy on October 01, 2013, 04:23:45 AM

Quote from: Rip on September 30, 2013, 11:42:45 PM

Thank the government education system for teaching my wife little to nothing.

You're just trolling us now, right?

She can barely read or write, you tell me.

As I said it has happened. Now we get to see how long it takes before they realize that they will have to compromise at least a little bit or it may last till next election or longer.
130  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 30, 2013, 11:42:45 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on September 30, 2013, 10:34:14 PM

Quote from: Rip on September 30, 2013, 03:22:27 AM

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Meanwhile, the House has passed a continuing resolution on Sunday vis-à-vis Obamaare in which would delay the Affordable Care Act's implementation for one year and repeal the healthcare law's medical device tax. That resolution, like the first bill that defunded Obamacare, is also certain to be killed by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Once the second bill is killed, Vitter’s plan takes the same amendment forcing the end to federal subsidies for the political class's health insurance and attaches it to the first defunding bill that was killed and sent back to the House. Then the House passes the bill, sends it back up to the Senate, and waits for the Senate to kill it again. One Democratic leadership aide has already said it probably wouldn’t even receive a chance to be voted on.
If the government shuts down, then, the Democrats will have forced it because they would not give up their de facto exemption from Obamacare. Vitter’s plan would show that after getting funding for every special interest they want, including Obamacare, Senate Democrats would not make a single, common-sense concession: tax dollars to insulate themselves from the very healthcare law they are forcing onto the country's working class.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/29/Vitter-s-Clever-Plan-for-Outmaneuvering-Dems-over-Obamacare

That would be interesting, hope they do it.


Rip finds Breitbart.com an interesting and credible source for information.  You know: the site that breathlessly reports about political appointees with financial ties to terrorist organizations that don't exist.


Quote from: Rip on September 30, 2013, 12:10:35 AM

Pretty much ever fast food franchise has begun to limit employees to under thirty hours thereby making them part-time to avoid Obamacare mandated healthcare. So now many fast food employees are working at two different franchises in order to make enough hours, of course getting it all at regular time now instead of the overtime many of them used to get for hours over 40.


Rip's wife and daughter work for a fast food company where they can't make ends meet without piling on the overtime.  Sounds like grueling and under-appreciated work to me...but I wonder what Breitbart.com has to say about their desire for a living wage.

Quote from: Breitbart.com
Congressman Ellison and the fast food strikers ignore reality; not all jobs are designed to provide a living wage. The coddling that the left media and Democrats are giving the low-skilled workers as they stamp their feet and raise their picket signs isn't helping them adjust to the real world of supply and demand, where low skilled workers are easily replaced since there are so many of them.

For decades, fast food jobs have been considerd entry level or part time work; they are 'starter jobs' that teach basic work skills such as showing up on time, customer service and following basic instructions. For others, like retirees or Moms with kids in schoool, they have provided a way to be productive and bring in a little extra cash. Fast food work wasn't designed to be a career unless a worker wanted to show initiative and become a manager.

There's a fairly simple path to management for fast food workers with any such ambitions; do your job, show some responsibility, and most fast food restaurants provide a quick way to rise through the ranks. Many franchisees start this way.


Rip, your "news" site says your wife and daughter are low-skilled entitled brats who would be working full-time management positions if they could show up on time, follow basic instructions, and demonstrate a little responsibility. 

How do you respond to the portrayal of your family as a clot of leeches sucking the economy dry because they can't master even basic work skills, and do you agree with Breitbart.com that we should all ignore their plight because "the real world of supply and demand" has deemed them so worthless?

-Autistic Angel

Breitbart is hardly my site. I is one of many sites I check out.

I would say they are right, fast food is a bottom feeding low end job. Thank the government education system for teaching my wife little to nothing. My daughter is just turning 18 so that is pretty much expected.

They weren't loading on overtime, they just enjoy picking up a little extra cash with the 5-10 hours of OT a week they could get, giving them 40-50 hours a week, now they are looking at nearly 60 hours a week for no more money.

That Friends of Hamas thng pales in comparison to things like O'Bagy getting citied by the administration and numerous news orgs when she didn't even really have a PhD. If I quit accepting news from sites that have occasionally gotten things totally wrong I would have no place else to get news from.

Funny thing is there is nothing credibility wise to even question in that story, it was simply reporting what everyone pretty much is, just for you I will post it from an MSNBC source next time as I imagine that is where you get your "factual" news.

 Roll Eyes
131  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 30, 2013, 07:47:19 PM
Maybe if they would all start doing their jobs and actually do a budget properly instead of doing a CR for so long that the AP had the audacity to call it an otherwise routine funding bill.

We didn't get here overnight.
132  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 30, 2013, 03:22:27 AM
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Meanwhile, the House has passed a continuing resolution on Sunday vis-à-vis Obamaare in which would delay the Affordable Care Act's implementation for one year and repeal the healthcare law's medical device tax. That resolution, like the first bill that defunded Obamacare, is also certain to be killed by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Once the second bill is killed, Vitter’s plan takes the same amendment forcing the end to federal subsidies for the political class's health insurance and attaches it to the first defunding bill that was killed and sent back to the House. Then the House passes the bill, sends it back up to the Senate, and waits for the Senate to kill it again. One Democratic leadership aide has already said it probably wouldn’t even receive a chance to be voted on.
If the government shuts down, then, the Democrats will have forced it because they would not give up their de facto exemption from Obamacare. Vitter’s plan would show that after getting funding for every special interest they want, including Obamacare, Senate Democrats would not make a single, common-sense concession: tax dollars to insulate themselves from the very healthcare law they are forcing onto the country's working class.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/29/Vitter-s-Clever-Plan-for-Outmaneuvering-Dems-over-Obamacare

That would be interesting, hope they do it.
133  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 30, 2013, 12:14:34 AM

Quote from: Gratch on September 29, 2013, 09:40:51 PM

Quote from: Rip on September 29, 2013, 09:05:23 PM

I am opposed to a federal healthcare system period.

Because our existing clusterfuck of a healthcare system is working out so well for everyone, right?

Hasn't bothered me. I have pretty much never used it except to get stitches and a wasteful treatment of my heel when I broke it that would have healed just as well had I never went but broke down and went anyway just to be sure it was nothing more major. The nurses actually had to call their peers over to look at the big blue foot injury that occurred two weeks previous because they didn't believe anyone would not go for that long with such an injury.
134  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 30, 2013, 12:10:35 AM

Quote from: Teggy on September 29, 2013, 11:04:07 PM

Quote from: Rip on September 29, 2013, 09:05:23 PM

and has already resulted in my wife and daughter needing to work two part time jobs and many more hours to bring home the same money as they used to with one fulltime job and grabbing a little overtime.

Can you elaborate on this comment?

Pretty much ever fast food franchise has begun to limit employees to under thirty hours thereby making them part-time to avoid Obamacare mandated healthcare. So now many fast food employees are working at two different franchises in order to make enough hours, of course getting it all at regular time now instead of the overtime many of them used to get for hours over 40.
135  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 29, 2013, 09:05:23 PM
There is nothing more hostile they can do, that is more point. When you say I won't give an inch they will do the most hostile thing they have. At this point that is refusing to pass the funding CR and I would suspect refusing to authorize more debt. As you say this is a really terrible thing to do and will without a doubt hurt both parties and everyone in between. So it would seem prudent to give them a face saving out. They haven't got that out, so with no other option than outright surrender they will fight with whatever they have.

Since uncle Clinton says it is a bluff

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"He could stop it, but the price of - the current price of stopping it is higher than the price of letting the Republicans do it and taking their medicine," he said in an interview that aired Sunday on ABC's "This Week."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/29/clinton-says-obama-needs-to-call-the-gops-bluff/?hpt=hp_t1

it would appear a shutdown is inevitable, unless you believe it is a bluff. I certainly don't and I am pretty certain my congressman and senators know I wasn't bluffing when I said I won't vote for someone who votes to fund Obamacare as it stands.

Whether not it is a fair or even honorable way to do it I don't care. It is bad for me and my finances and has already resulted in my wife and daughter needing to work two part time jobs and many more hours to bring home the same money as they used to with one fulltime job and grabbing a little overtime. I wouldn't give a crap if it Romney had one the election and it was Romneycare and not Obamacare, I would be every bit as much opposed to it. I am opposed to a federal healthcare system period.
136  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Re: Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 29, 2013, 05:31:52 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on September 29, 2013, 11:07:21 AM

Quote from: Rip on September 29, 2013, 12:02:20 AM

Either way for them to forfeit the battle now would be even worse than having never fought it, so unless they are totally stupid they really don't have a choice now. Passing the bill as it stands now would guarantee the loss of The House in the the next election.


Option A: Deliberately sabotage the economy, hurting the poor and middle class the worst, and hope that enough anger at generic targets like "Washington" and "Congress" splashes onto Democrats that people vote for you out of hopeless frustration.

Option B: Produce economically viable ideas about how to improve the country for its citizens, engage in good faith negotiations to see them passed into law, and use that record of accomplishments to earn people's votes.

The fact that you consider Option A to be the preferrable choice at all says a lot about you and your political affiliations, Rip.  Do me a favor: why don't you address Gratch directly and explain to him how slashing his family's income is an acceptable price for John Boehner to cling to the Speakership for one more term of flaccid inaction?

-Autistic Angel

Option B must be a joke. They have ideas but president and senate have shown they are not interested in them and won't allow most amendments or changes. Although the president can make changes just as big or bigger on a whim at his discretion. Good faith negotiations requires the participation of more than one party. The other side has already stated they will not negotiate and when you do that you should expect hostility as a result.
137  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [Facebook Insanity] Saudi Sheikh warns women driving may affect ovaries & pelvis on: September 29, 2013, 02:12:22 AM

Quote from: Purge on September 29, 2013, 12:52:57 AM

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He further stated that 33% female drivers caused car accidents in Arab countries as opposed to 9% male.

.... and the rest?

The remaining 52% are obviously Eunuchs
138  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Blacklist on: September 29, 2013, 12:06:32 AM

Quote from: rshetts2 on September 28, 2013, 11:19:03 PM

Quote from: Rip on September 28, 2013, 07:31:10 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on September 27, 2013, 02:40:51 PM

I liked it mainly because of Spader.  I think they are playing up the fact he is probably her father, but I think it's red herring and would be too convenient.  Most likely a friend of her real dad or something of that nature

I think that would be a mistake. For her to be his daughter is the only thing that makes sense. Now I could swallow that isn't his daughter that he is known to have, maybe another illegitimate daughter that no one could be aware is his. Note the fact that the FBI guy was all curious why her father being a crook wasn't in her record. Best new show by far IMHO.

Ive liked the show so far and thing that Spader is great in the role.  The big issue I had is his connection to the hot rookie.  Regardless of how this thing is going to play out, he totally rolled the dice with her life and she was a heartbeat from being dead. Thats going to make it tough to believe he has a family connection to her.  Ill be interested to see if theres a real reason for that or if they just ignore the fact and move on.

I think that fits right in with how I expect he would raise a child. He is arrogant and he expects her to measure up, the only thing that made him do this was seeing, by watching her, that she could be as smart as he.
139  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Re: Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 29, 2013, 12:02:20 AM

Quote from: Canuck on September 28, 2013, 11:31:59 PM

Quote from: Rip on September 28, 2013, 08:34:58 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 28, 2013, 08:20:31 PM

Not enforcing a law they don't agree with is a) a regularly used tactic by plenty of administrations and b) a husbanding of limited resources.

And the Dems are more than willing to fund the government.  And they want to fund all of the laws that have been legally passed.  The Repubs want to fund everything but the stuff they don't want, and are willing to grind things to a halt if they don't get to cherrypick what gets money and what doesn't.

I'd say it's all a matter of perspective, but in this case, your perspective is wrong.  The Repubs are not in majority and they're throwing a fit because they'r eoutvoted and outnumbered in the government as a whole.

Power of the Purse has been used as well, most notably in an attempt to force us out of the Vietnam War.

I don't understand what all you guys are upset about, you should be cheering. If this move is as catastrphic as you like to indicate it is, it should lead to Democrats controlling all branches of the government for decades. You should be cheering them on, unless destruction of Republican chances to lead isn't so certain after all.
As a non-American who won't be directly negatively affected, I am cheering it on in a way. I would really like to see the Republicans burn themselves to the ground as a party. Perhaps a Phoenix will rise from the ashes. As has already been stated though that is unlikely to happen thanks to gerrymandering. Perhaps the US should move to a proportional voting format? Then I think you would see Republicans changing their tune as a party quite quickly.

Perhaps the Libertarian party would actually become relevant? I could get behind that. Either way for them to forfeit the battle now would be even worse than having never fought it, so unless they are totally stupid they really don't have a choice now. Passing the bill as it stands now would guarantee the loss of The House in the the next election.
140  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 28, 2013, 10:05:10 PM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on September 28, 2013, 09:36:47 PM

Quote from: Rip on September 28, 2013, 08:34:58 PM

I don't understand what all you guys are upset about, you should be cheering. If this move is as catastrphic as you like to indicate it is, it should lead to Democrats controlling all branches of the government for decades.

I do not consider an improvement in my party's electoral chances to be worth deeply damaging the economy of the United States, as these funding and debt ceiling games could do. I want to win, to be sure, but not at the cost of harming millions of innocent people.

Then it would seem prudent to sign off on the one year delay. If the president could exempt businesses for a year it would seem doing so for the rest of us would not be catastophic, whereas everyone can agree the shutdown will be very harmful. When you refuse to negotiate with "terrorists threatening to blow things up" don't be surprised when they "blow things up". They have nothing to lose as myself and many others have made it VERY clear if they fund it without concessions don't expect to get reelected.

141  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 28, 2013, 08:50:31 PM
If it were me I would pass it with language that would delay implementing Obamacare until that border fence was funded and built.

 icon_twisted
142  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 28, 2013, 08:35:45 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 28, 2013, 08:20:31 PM

Not enforcing a law they don't agree with is a) a regularly used tactic by plenty of administrations and b) a husbanding of limited resources.

And the Dems are more than willing to fund the government.  And they want to fund all of the laws that have been legally passed.  The Repubs want to fund everything but the stuff they don't want, and are willing to grind things to a halt if they don't get to cherrypick what gets money and what doesn't.

I'd say it's all a matter of perspective, but in this case, your perspective is wrong.  The Repubs are not in majority and they're throwing a fit because they'r eoutvoted and outnumbered in the government as a whole.

SO then this would just lead to them losing what little power they have. You should be happy.
143  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 28, 2013, 08:34:58 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 28, 2013, 08:20:31 PM

Not enforcing a law they don't agree with is a) a regularly used tactic by plenty of administrations and b) a husbanding of limited resources.

And the Dems are more than willing to fund the government.  And they want to fund all of the laws that have been legally passed.  The Repubs want to fund everything but the stuff they don't want, and are willing to grind things to a halt if they don't get to cherrypick what gets money and what doesn't.

I'd say it's all a matter of perspective, but in this case, your perspective is wrong.  The Repubs are not in majority and they're throwing a fit because they'r eoutvoted and outnumbered in the government as a whole.

Power of the Purse has been used as well, most notably in an attempt to force us out of the Vietnam War.

I don't understand what all you guys are upset about, you should be cheering. If this move is as catastrphic as you like to indicate it is, it should lead to Democrats controlling all branches of the government for decades. You should be cheering them on, unless destruction of Republican chances to lead isn't so certain after all.
144  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: on: September 28, 2013, 08:14:53 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on September 28, 2013, 07:59:00 PM

Quote from: Rip on September 28, 2013, 07:02:53 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 28, 2013, 03:50:10 PM

They got what they wanted when the law was passed. Now the other side is being petulant and underhanded, attempting to sabotage a law by any means necessary.


I will get upset about that when the POTUS starts enforcing the laws.


Congressional Republicans are currently threatening to shut down the government and default on the nation's debt unless the Affordable Healthcare Act is repealed.  What are some of the specific laws the POTUS is failing to enforce that you feel are equivalent to denying pay to active duty servicemen and collapsing the global economy?

-Autistic Angel

I don't see it that way. I see it as Democrats threatening to shut down the government unless it is funded as is. Is Obamacare more important that paying servicemen and not collapsing the economy?

I don't hve time or energy to list all the laws that Obama and the executive branch have chosen not to enforce and/or ignore, there are dozens.
145  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Blacklist on: September 28, 2013, 07:31:10 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on September 27, 2013, 02:40:51 PM

I liked it mainly because of Spader.  I think they are playing up the fact he is probably her father, but I think it's red herring and would be too convenient.  Most likely a friend of her real dad or something of that nature

I think that would be a mistake. For her to be his daughter is the only thing that makes sense. Now I could swallow that isn't his daughter that he is known to have, maybe another illegitimate daughter that no one could be aware is his. Note the fact that the FBI guy was all curious why her father being a crook wasn't in her record. Best new show by far IMHO.
146  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: on: September 28, 2013, 07:02:53 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 28, 2013, 03:50:10 PM

Quote from: Rip on September 28, 2013, 04:08:53 AM

Quote from: Ironrod on September 27, 2013, 11:01:09 PM

I don't know how it's going to play out, but I wish they'd quit fucking around and do their jobs -- namely, governing. I've seen this movie too many times to get engrossed in the details. Just work it out.

And if you can't, we're going to declare the tea party a terrorist organization and break it up.

So by working it out you mean just give them what they want, got ya.

They got what they wanted when the law was passed. Now the other side is being petulant and underhanded, attempting to sabotage a law by any means necessary.

I will get upset about that when the POTUS starts enforcing the laws. The Republicans hardly have a monopoly on being petulant and underhanded. The path they are taking is made possible by laws as well, so if you don't like the way the game is being played change the rules, but don't be surprised if that would come back to haunt you as well.
147  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 28, 2013, 04:08:53 AM

Quote from: Ironrod on September 27, 2013, 11:01:09 PM

I don't know how it's going to play out, but I wish they'd quit fucking around and do their jobs -- namely, governing. I've seen this movie too many times to get engrossed in the details. Just work it out.

And if you can't, we're going to declare the tea party a terrorist organization and break it up.

So by working it out you mean just give them what they want, got ya.
148  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Sheriff Joe institutes vegetarian meals for inmates on: September 28, 2013, 03:57:18 AM
I have heard there is a lot of meat eating going on in prison that doesn't occur during mealtime.

 ninja
149  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Marijuana. Just watched a documentary. on: September 21, 2013, 01:21:02 AM
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Psychiatry/AnxietyStress/1934?xid=ob_&utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=psyc&hr=ob

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A synthetic cannabinoid -- similar to the compounds found in marijuana, but substantially stronger -- causes the growth of new neurons and reduces anxiety and depression, investigators at the University of Saskatchewan here reported.

And researchers at the University of Calgary said they've found evidence that the brain contains so-called CB2 cannabinoid receptors, previously seen in immune tissue but thought not to exist in brain tissue. The discovery, they added, could lead to new drugs to treat nausea associated with cancer or AIDS.

Most so-called drugs of abuse -- such as alcohol or cocaine -- inhibit the growth of new neurons, according to Xia Zhang, M.D., Ph.D., of the University of Saskatchewan.

"Only marijuana promotes neurogenesis," Dr. Zhang said.

 ninja2
150  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Caine] Man stabbed by ex for listening to Eagles on: September 19, 2013, 01:12:57 PM
I wonder if she was watching breaking bad?

Orrrrrr, maybe SHE was watching the Eagles game while he was blasting the Eagles on the stereo.

Eagles, Eagles everywhere.


   
151  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [News] Shooting at the Navy Yard on: September 18, 2013, 05:49:05 AM

Quote from: metallicorphan on September 17, 2013, 06:15:21 PM

The news report i saw said that Washington D.C. isn't really a big city(which is rich coming from a UK news report),but its listed as the 24th biggest city in the U.S with 630k population so perhaps the news reporter was just going off the usual cities like New York or L.A. but anyhow from what he said, I suddenly remembered the Washington Sniper case about 10 years ago(That was DC as well and not State,right?)

sad story anyway



DC proper doesn't have a huge population, much of it is places people work and many of the people that work there live in one of the numerous metro areas surrounding it.

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The population of the entire Baltimore–Washington Metroplex as of the Census Bureau's 2012 Population Estimates is 9,331,587.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] The most populous city is Washington, DC, with a population of 632,323.[11] The most populous county is Fairfax County, Virginia, with a population exceeding 1 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore%E2%80%93Washington_metropolitan_area

152  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Breaking bad as good/bad as usual! on: September 14, 2013, 08:04:31 PM

Quote from: Caine on September 13, 2013, 06:32:16 AM

Joking Bad

Jimmy Fallon's parody goes pretty in depth. 

Go ahead, laugh your ass off!
153  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Is our children learning? on: September 14, 2013, 07:49:51 PM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on September 14, 2013, 04:01:28 PM

Quote from: Rip on September 14, 2013, 03:50:45 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on September 13, 2013, 09:55:56 PM

Quote from: Razgon on September 13, 2013, 06:59:51 AM

Edit: I will have to check if creationism is taught as well.

It's my understanding that creationism has no currency outside of the US (except as a fringe belief at most, certainly not as a "science"), so I'd be interested to know if it has a toehold in Denmark.

Islam while not taking a somewhat different view isn't scientific in any way. It seems to have a little traction outside the U.S. as well.

Modern-day fundamentalist Islam does have a pretty bad track record as it goes with science. Which is ironic, considering that the Islamic world is what drove science forward during the European dark age. And it is Islamic mathematics, particularly in the form of algebra, that underlie so much of what we call mathematics and science today. The collapse of the Islamic world into fundamentalism is one of the most tragic occurrences in human history.

I love it when I find things we see the same. Painful to see such a noble religion drug down so far. The damge it is doing to religion as a whole is startling.
154  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Is our children learning? on: September 14, 2013, 03:50:45 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on September 13, 2013, 09:55:56 PM

Quote from: Razgon on September 13, 2013, 06:59:51 AM

Edit: I will have to check if creationism is taught as well.

It's my understanding that creationism has no currency outside of the US (except as a fringe belief at most, certainly not as a "science"), so I'd be interested to know if it has a toehold in Denmark.

Islam while not taking a somewhat different view isn't scientific in any way. It seems to have a little traction outside the U.S. as well.
155  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: how come we're not attacking syria? on: September 10, 2013, 10:57:49 PM

Quote from: hepcat on September 10, 2013, 08:32:23 PM

Quote from: ATB on September 10, 2013, 08:23:50 PM


He didn't decide anything. He was forced by the backlash to change tact.  


So you don't believe a sitting U.S. president has ever gone ahead with a military strike in the past without UN backing at the very least?

Not with nearly 80% of the US staunchly against it. He was saved by the bumbling cousin Secretary of State. Like Xmas vacation goes to Washington or something. Doesn't matter though, cost and damage to me is largely mitigated, I am ready to move on.
156  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: how come we're not attacking syria? on: September 09, 2013, 10:14:59 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on September 09, 2013, 09:11:12 PM

Quote from: th'FOOL on September 09, 2013, 08:30:57 PM


That idea is so last page.

I don't think for one minute that Obama wants to risk a quagmire in Syria. He knows fully well how one limited action leads to another.

The latest news has Assad offering to give up his supply of chemical weapons. That's a great endgame if that's what Obama's belligerent bluster brings.


Which must be why they are trying to say Kerry was asking a whetorical question and suggesting such is impossible.
157  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: September 07, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
and no Sports Forum!!!!!!!!!!!!

 Torches and Happiness!
158  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: September 06, 2013, 09:34:32 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on September 06, 2013, 09:16:44 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on September 06, 2013, 09:14:31 PM

For you folks new to GT who liked hanging out here the last few weeks, if you need an extra incentive to stick around more I highly recommend you at least pop in on Mondays for a start to visit the weekly What are you buying this week? thread, in which Destructor posts all the upcoming releases for the week (PC and console alike) and people talk about what they are or aren't excited about buying this week.  It's as addictive as the Steam Sale thread, and I've found a lot of great games from seeing others excited in those threads that had previously been entirely off my radar.

OO is now full of fuddy duddies that won't spend more than $6 for a game.

and then only if I can make a good bit back off trading cards.

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159  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: TDS-Jon Stewart to take summer off,John Oliver to fill in on: September 06, 2013, 04:55:51 PM
OK, I am confused. Can't you just watch Colbert Report on the web even if you are in the UK or any other non-US barbarian place where they don't broadcast the Legendary Stephen Colbert?
160  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Re: how come we're not attacking syria? on: September 04, 2013, 04:08:32 PM

Quote from: raydude on September 04, 2013, 01:28:27 PM

Quote from: Rip on September 01, 2013, 01:02:25 PM

Quote from: Canuck on September 01, 2013, 08:35:22 AM

I think  Obama is probably happy to have passed the buck. He's probably not looking forward to something that he is pushing being rejected but if it is then he can say his hands are tied. Win/win for Obama.

and a lose/lose for America.

Wait, I'm confused. So if he attacks without consulting Congress it's Obama's fault. If he consults Congress but still attacks it's Obama's fault. If he doesn't attack without consulting Congress it's Obama's fault. If he doesn't attack because of Congress it's Obama's fault. Sounds like someone has a case of 'I just don't like Obama'.

I didn't say anything about Obama's fault. I said lose/lose for America and could give a shit about who is at fault. Anything we do unilaterally in this case is a loss when the dust settles.
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