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1  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: This country has gone insane on: November 19, 2016, 08:06:57 PM
Good luck with that.

When the apocalypse doesn't happen all the Henny Penny's will be exposed.
2  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: This country has gone insane on: November 15, 2016, 03:32:26 PM
Those article aren't half as hateful as things said by Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, Sid Blumenthal.

Heck are we just going to totally ignore that Huma and her family are key people at Journal of Minority Muslim Affairs which is one of the most jew hating publications on the planet.

People in glass houses..........

In the end Milo is a shock jock anti-PC guy that pushes the edges. Unpleasant maybe.

In the end Breitbart doesn't dictate what their contributors can write about like we have found so many websites do and it makes little sense to infer the words of them all equal his.
3  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: This country has gone insane on: November 15, 2016, 02:38:18 AM
I care as much about what David Duke thinks as I do about what Mohammed Badie thinks, which is not at all. Douchebags that run hateful organizations and their opinions are of zero interest.
4  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: This country has gone insane on: November 15, 2016, 01:59:40 AM
Since OO is down I guess I will rebut the assertion that Stephen Bannon is an anti-Semite here.

http://zoa.org/2016/11/10342353-zoa-criticizes-adl-for-falsely-alleging-trump-advisor-bannon-is-anti-semitic/

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It is painful to see Anti-Defamation League (ADL) president Jonathan Greenblatt engaging in character assassination against President-elect Trump’s appointee Stephen Bannon and Mr. Bannon’s company, Breitbart media.  ADL/Greenblatt essentially accused Mr. Bannon and his media company of “anti-Semitism” and Israel hatred, when Jonathan Greenblatt/ADL tweeted that Bannon “presided over the premier website of the ‘alt right’ – a loose-knit group of white nationalists and anti-Semites.”    

In fact, as pro-Israel writer (and orthodox Jew) Joel B. Pollak wrote, Mr. Bannon is “an American patriot who defends Israel & has deep empathy for the Jewish people.”

ZOA’s own experience and analysis of Breitbart articles confirms Mr. Bannon’s and Breitbart’s friendship and fair-mindedness towards Israel and the Jewish people.  To accuse Mr. Bannon and Breitbart of anti-Semitism is Orwellian.  In fact, Breitbart bravely fights against anti-Semitism.

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ZOA President Morton Klein stated:  “The ZOA welcomes the appointment of Stephen Bannon as chief strategist to the incoming Trump/Pence administration.  We wish Mr. Bannon every success in his new position.  We urge Jonathan Greenblatt/ADL to withdraw and apologize for their inappropriate character assassination of Mr. Bannon and Breitbart Media.”

Would Trump’s extraordinary pro-Israel advisors such as Newt Gingrich, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Pence, Sheldon Adelson, and Orthodox Jews Jared Kushner, David Friedman, and Jason Greenblatt ever allow an anti-Semite/Israel-hater to work with them? Would Trump’s Orthodox Jewish daughter Ivanka, whose children go to an Orthodox day school, ever allow an anti-Semite to work with her father? And, remember Donald Trump’s platform on Israel was the strongest pro-Israel platform ever. I’m also forced to ask – why didn’t ADL and other Bannon bashers complain that Hilary’s advisers included some very anti-Israel people starting with major donor to Hillary, the Israel-hating, George Soros? Where were ADL’s complaints then?
5  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Ban notice at OO on: November 15, 2016, 01:36:18 AM

Quote from: Blackhawk on November 15, 2016, 01:29:54 AM

Good point.  We need the money!

Thanks... um... who are we thanking these days when things go wrong, anyway?

Thanks Comey!
6  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Ban notice at OO on: November 14, 2016, 07:40:59 PM
7  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: This country has gone insane on: November 14, 2016, 07:39:13 PM
Haven't visited this neighborhood in awhile but I have to say I like this Dante guy.
8  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Ban notice at OO on: November 14, 2016, 05:59:33 PM
Upgrade in progress.

Ignore any strange messages.
9  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: February 21, 2016, 06:28:38 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on November 04, 2015, 02:45:14 PM

Seems like I can't access OO from work

Chrome is giving me this

Google Chrome's connection attempt to www.octopusoverlords.com was rejected. The website may be down, or your network may not be properly configured.


My phone can connect to the site.  weird

Is it possible your company has implemented internet filtering? Websense or the like perhaps?
10  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: OO off line for a short time on: February 21, 2016, 06:24:41 PM

Quote from: Canuck on October 20, 2015, 11:22:14 AM

I knew it. Rip has banned me. frown
J/k

 ninja



11  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Women in combat on: July 28, 2015, 07:29:10 AM
 nod
12  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Congrats Bibi on: March 18, 2015, 04:49:26 PM
Since OO is offline I guess I will celebrate here.

As usual the polls were wishful thinking by the media.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2015/03/benjamin_netanyahu_is_losing_his_reelection_the_israeli_prime_minister_has.html

 Cabbage Patch
13  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: March 18, 2015, 04:18:30 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on March 18, 2015, 02:23:22 AM

Hope ol' Fishy's vacation isn't too long.

Did anybody try turning if off and back on again? Where's that Rip Ripperstein fellow? He knows how to do that.

As luck would have it I am extremely busy and my e-mail server is offline at the moment. Which is where the info is. Working on getting it back up but even that is like 3rd on my priority list at the moment.

We needed a week vacation to visit the GTers anyway. Try not to trash the place too much. On the bright side their R&P forum should see more traffic this week than it has seen all year.
14  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Flash on: December 13, 2014, 09:50:04 PM
I figured out who the "other" red flash is.


Spoiler for Hiden:
Santa Claus
15  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama on the Colbert Report on: December 13, 2014, 09:45:50 PM

Quote from: hepcat on December 11, 2014, 09:42:53 PM

Quote from: Lee on December 11, 2014, 08:56:10 PM

Quote from: hepcat on December 11, 2014, 07:56:59 PM

But certainly not "horribly biased" as you earlier asserted.  

Yeah, I think they are, they don't do a great job of providing the other side of any argument. They just point out stupidity in the government, press, etc.


I guess I misunderstood you then as I thought you were saying they were horribly biased against the right (you compared them to Fox in that regard...and Fox is unquestionably and proudly rightist).  

They ridicule both the left AND the right.  That's my point.  



They are horribly biased to what they think is correct. As am I. Nether one being totally left or right. You would be surprised how many places I come down in opposition to the Republican Party/political right.
16  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama on the Colbert Report on: December 09, 2014, 11:44:01 PM
Sadly, RCAP finds this rickety ol place lacking.


I have already prepared numerous responses to the inevitable attacks on enhanced interrogation, but it appears that I will have to wait until Comedy Central writes some new jokes about it before anyone here will become aware of the Senate report.

 ninja2
17  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama on the Colbert Report on: December 09, 2014, 03:34:45 PM
Cute, but it wasn't that funny. Certainly some truth in it. I am pretty sure Comedy Central is about as close as many liberals get to news.
18  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: November 27, 2014, 09:41:30 PM
I guess I should dig in my notes and find the server info. I have been spoiled by FP dealing with all the hosting headaches.

 crybaby
19  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: GOP Storms Congress: FulL Control of Senate and House on: November 06, 2014, 11:06:08 PM

Quote from: hepcat on November 06, 2014, 10:56:16 PM

Anyone who believes Obama initiated any of the things ATB mentions is showing a level of naiveté I consider very depressing.  I'm fine with saying they continued it when they shouldn't have, but the insinuation that this hasn't been going on across multiple presidents and without the tacit approval of both parties at various times is shockingly ignorant.

So it is finally time to admit that "hope and change" was really nothing more than a catchy slogan?
20  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NFL 2014] Week 10 on: November 06, 2014, 01:18:29 AM

Quote from: Teggy on November 06, 2014, 01:15:28 AM

Hey, who came up with that hashtag exactly?  disgust

Daniel Snyder.

Why?


 icon_lol
21  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV]Gotham - Batman Prequel on: November 06, 2014, 12:45:12 AM

Quote from: hepcat on November 06, 2014, 12:42:00 AM

I just started catching up on this one.  I'm surprised to find that I'm enjoying the political/criminal machinations far more than I thought I would.  Especially Penguin's excruciatingly slow rise to power.  But the real standout for me is the kid they got to play young Bruce Wayne.  That kid is just nailing it every week.  He really makes me believe he's going to someday be one of the most dangerous men on the planet.

Yea, not only that but you really she closeness of the relationship we all know will happen as not just believable but likely. Gordon has become pretty much a surrogate father role model.

That hug moment was perfect and he really sold it. You could tell the two detectives were flabergasted to be witnessing that moment.
22  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV]Gotham - Batman Prequel on: November 06, 2014, 12:40:52 AM

Quote from: rittchard on November 05, 2014, 09:27:57 PM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on November 05, 2014, 02:04:08 AM

Morena Baccarin to join the cast of Gotham as Dr. Leslie Thompkins.

Awesome!  I love her.  But... who the heck is Leslie Thompkins?

A Doctor obviously.



Although the article I read said she was played by Mekia Cox. Maybe Morena has a different role and someone screwed up the name.

She could be my doctor any day.
23  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV]Gotham - Batman Prequel on: November 06, 2014, 12:32:37 AM

Quote from: rittchard on November 04, 2014, 06:01:08 PM

I'd say last night's episode was the best of the season, I enjoyed it from beginning to end.  For better or worse, the series seems to be playing out like the Penguin origin show, as he is the real standout character thus far.  His entire story arc has really been fantastic, and even though I'm not a big fan of the actor, I really like what he's done with the role.

I still have problems with the show as a whole.  I mean, the entire freaking police force and government is corrupt or under mob control, really?  I guess that gives Gordon a goal to work toward but it just seems a bit too much.  It's frustrating to have such a no-win setup where ideally you'd want a superhero to come in and work on it, but you know inherently is just isn't going to happen due to the show's premise/gimmick.  At this point I wouldn't even mind if they just said screw the comic storyline and just jumped that adorable little David Mazouz into a Batkid outfit.  Then have Batkid and Catgirl roam the city and kick mobster ass.   nod



Agree about Penguin, I'm actually looking forward to him gaining more power.

Also Victor Zsasz's ringtone. That is some bang on funny shit.

As far as the police force goes I think it fits. Gordon needs to be out on a limb for what is right to inspire young Bruce Wayne to become involved and be the driving force behind whatever drives Gordon up to one day being commissioner while cleaning up the GTCPD to some degree. But not so much as to not still depend on a helping hand when needed from his old friend. I like this show so much it risks overtaking Blacklist as my fav.
24  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: GOP Storms Congress: FulL Control of Senate and House on: November 05, 2014, 08:29:06 PM

Quote from: ATB on November 05, 2014, 07:33:33 PM

Quote from: hepcat on November 05, 2014, 07:05:59 PM

Nothing to worry about.  If there's even a slight chance of you being able to troll people, you'll create your own thread.

I can't help it. This made me laugh.

The dusty unloved corners of R&P will be reborn with teh fury if the GOP takes the white house in 2 years.

True dat. Once POTUS Rand Paul and his best buddy Mitch McConnell start running things it will all be rosy and there will be lots of bridges...err I mean threads for me to indulge in.
25  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: GOP Storms Congress: FulL Control of Senate and House on: November 05, 2014, 07:01:26 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on November 05, 2014, 04:07:10 PM

Since 1900, the president's party has only gained seats in Congress three times:

FDR 1934 - Great Depression
Clinton 1998 - misplayed impeachment attempt
Bush 2002 - 9/11



Deeper than that.

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The Republican wave that swept over the states left Democrats at their weakest point in state legislatures since the 1920s.

Everything went in the direction of the GOP as Republicans seized new majorities in the West Virginia House, Nevada Assembly and Senate, New Hampshire House, Minnesota House and New York Senate, The West Virginia Senate is now tied.

Control of several legislative chambers was still up in the air early Wednesday as counting continued in several tight races that will determine control of the Colorado Senate, New Mexico House and Maine Senate.

The lone bright spot for Democrats was holding majorities in the Iowa Senate and Kentucky House.

The overall number of divided state governments will increase with changes in governor in places such as Massachussets, Illinois, Pennsylvania and Maryland along with the legislatures in West Virginia, Minnesota and New York.

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UPDATE: Republicans have taken control of the Colorado senate and the New Mexico house. They also have a chance to win the Colorado house and the Washington house, after mail-in ballots are finally counted. The state legislative chambers now stand at 65 Republican, 23 Democrat, 1 tie, and 4 undecided.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/392074/democrats-sink-pre-great-depression-levels-state-legislatures-john-fund


I was starting to wonder if you guys would even have an election thread or whether the denial would be manifested by not referring to it at all.
26  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Liberal Fascism in Houston on: October 19, 2014, 04:59:08 PM

Quote from: hepcat on October 19, 2014, 12:54:04 PM

Of course, when the IRS DOES look into it, you cry foul and scream that they're being unfairly targeted.  No one wins unless they believe the same thing as you.  Of course, to be fair, that can be applied to almost everyone.

I would have no major issue with it, although if they do they should also look at all 501c3s that that were involved for the opposite political position. I would be willing to bet there were a number of c3s with some level of involvement on both sides. It really comes down to were they involved support or combat an issue or a specific candidate. I feel pretty confident the churches were far more interested in the issue being fought over by the candidates and had little interest in who the specific candidates were. Churches typicall don't care so much about people, they are an issue focused industry.
27  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Liberal Fascism in Houston on: October 19, 2014, 05:38:13 AM

Quote from: Gratch on October 18, 2014, 06:46:25 PM

Quote from: Rip on October 18, 2014, 05:19:25 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on October 17, 2014, 02:44:57 PM

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The people of Houston and their religious leaders must be absolutely secure in the knowledge that their religious affairs are beyond the reach of the government.”

If there was ever a chance that I would hate voted for Abbott, this statement would put the nail in that coffin.  So if they want to engage in blatant political maneuvering, snake handling, polygamy, or child marriage, their religious freedom should keep them sacrosanct from government oversight?  Bullshit.

What one engages in and what one says are two different things. One of them is protected by this thing called the 1st amendment.

You're correct, the church has every right to say whatever they please from the pulpit.  The government also has every right to ensure that what they say is in compliance with the guidelines of non-political speech that provides them the significant tax-exempt advantages they enjoy.  If those regulations are violated, then the church should have no problem paying their taxes.

I am sure there is no problem with that and if the IRS feels they have violated it I am sure they will investigate. The city of Houston however has no business in it.

In essence unless they were campaigning for a specific candidate they have a great deal of leeway.

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Currently, the law prohibits political campaign activity by charities and churches by defining a 501(c)(3) organization as one "which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office."

The IRS has published Revenue Ruling 2007-41, which outlines how churches, and all 501(c)(3) organizations, can stay within the law regarding the ban on political activity. Also, the ban by Congress is on political campaign activity regarding a candidate; churches and other 501(c)(3) organizations can engage in a limited amount of lobbying (including ballot measures) and advocate for or against issues that are in the political arena. The IRS also has provided guidance regarding the difference between advocating for a candidate and advocating for legislation. See political and lobbying activities.

http://www.irs.gov/uac/Charities,-Churches-and-Politics

They are allowed to advocate for or against issues. Just not for or against specific people. In any event if they have violated the federal tax law that is for the IRS to look into not some politician with an agenda.
28  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Liberal Fascism in Houston on: October 18, 2014, 05:19:25 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on October 17, 2014, 02:44:57 PM

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The people of Houston and their religious leaders must be absolutely secure in the knowledge that their religious affairs are beyond the reach of the government.”

If there was ever a chance that I would hate voted for Abbott, this statement would put the nail in that coffin.  So if they want to engage in blatant political maneuvering, snake handling, polygamy, or child marriage, their religious freedom should keep them sacrosanct from government oversight?  Bullshit.

What one engages in and what one says are two different things. One of them is protected by this thing called the 1st amendment.
29  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Liberal Fascism in Houston on: October 16, 2014, 09:42:26 PM
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In his letter to the city attorney, Abbott said, “Whether you intend it to be so or not, your action is a direct assault on the religious liberty guaranteed by the First Amendment. The people of Houston and their religious leaders must be absolutely secure in the knowledge that their religious affairs are beyond the reach of the government.”

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I recognize that the subpoenas arise from litigation related to a petition to repeal an ordinance adopted by the city council. But the litigation discovery process is not a license for government officials to inquire into religious affairs. Nor is your office’s desire to vigorously support the ordinance any excuse for these subpoenas. No matter what public policy is at stake, government officials must exercise the utmost care when our work touches on religious matters. If we err, it must be on the side of preserving the autonomy of religious institutions and the liberty of religious believers. Your aggressive and invasive subpoenas show no regard for the very serious First Amendment considerations at stake.

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I urge you to demonstrate the City’s commitment to religious liberty and to true diversity of belief by unilaterally withdrawing these subpoenas immediately. Your stated intention to wait for further court proceedings falls woefully short of the urgent action needed to reassure the people of Houston that their government respects their freedom of religion and does not punish those who oppose city policies on religious grounds.

http://www.wilsoncountynews.com/article.php?id=61828&n=national-news-ag-asks-houston-city-attorney-withdraw-subpoenas-seeking-sermons-pastors
30  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Liberal Fascism in Houston on: October 16, 2014, 07:31:32 PM

Quote from: Turtle on October 16, 2014, 01:33:38 AM

Yeah, I saw this same group of articles pop in my feeds, and Fireball's statements echo my first thoughts.

It's okay to be a bit shocked at first at the idea. However, you should be more concerned that your religion, church, and your beliefs are being used as a political platform.

These rules were put in place to help keep the distance between church and state.

What rules. There is no rule justifying this and that is why it was withdrawn. It would have never survived scrutiny.

If this were legal don't you think they would be cracking down on all the inflammatory political speech that takes place in your average mosque? Investigators and prosecutors have been beaten down numerous times when they have tried to take action against hateful political speech in mosques and have lost in every case they couldn't connect it to an actual specific crime. While keeping the church out of running the state is a noble cause trying to remove politics from religious organizations is a futile endeavor.
31  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Crisis of faith or is it over? on: October 14, 2014, 08:50:35 PM

Quote from: Fireball on October 14, 2014, 08:20:22 PM

Narrowing the focus on America, because I don't know much about Christianity in many other parts of the world outside of Catholicism, Anglicanism and Orthodoxy, there has definitely been what you could call a takeover of many branches of Christianity by movement conservatives. Forty-five years ago the Southern Baptist Convention, to name a prominent example, was a middle of the road denomination that was not expressly opposed to abortion. In the 1970s a concerted effort by conservative political activists fundamentally changed the SBC and other congregational churches into a toxic breeding ground of right-wing political ideology. The notion that churches would be leading the charge against social services to poor people and championing the most cut throat notions of American capitalism would shock Christians from 50 years ago.

I bet it wouldn't shock them half as much as realizing that their organization that once was a cornerstone of race discrimination now had a black president.

I am sure they would be aghast at the conservatives allowing such a tragedy to occur.   slywink

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In 1995, the Convention voted to adopt a resolution renouncing its racist roots and apologizing for its past defense of slavery, segregation, and white supremacy. This marked the denomination's first formal acknowledgment that racism had a profound role in its early and modern history. The convention recognized that the demographics of the United States were changing and has subsequently made an effort to recruit new members among minority populations.

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Into the 1960s and the Civil Rights era, most Southern Baptist pastors and most members of their congregations rejected Racial integration and accepted white supremacy, further alienating African Americans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Baptist_Convention#cite_ref-The_Southern_Baptists_2012_34-3
32  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Crisis of faith or is it over? on: October 14, 2014, 02:13:59 PM

Quote from: Fireball on October 13, 2014, 05:39:34 PM

Conservative Christians are destroying Christianity. A religion that hates gay people, denigrates women, denies science, etc, has no future because it has no truth or grace in it. Liberal Christians aren't doing enough to stop the right-wing hijacking of our religion, though it does seem some of us are finally waking up to this.

I'm a Sunday school teacher, active in my local parish, and obviously I'm not going anywhere. But I see my friends, particularly my gay friends, being driven further and further away from religion because they increasingly associate with nasty, bigoted people like Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum, or charlatans like Joel Olsteen. What's bad about American Christianity is so toxic, it makes the far greater part of it that is good harder to acknowledge.

Ummm, I pretty sure the things you have issues with were that way long before there was even an "America" or American Christianity whatever that is.

Must be all those American Popes..............

If anything Christianity has been hijacked by liberals not the other way around. Not that such is a bad thing, just noting that Christianity is far less "right wing" today than it ever has been which makes accusations that it has been hijacked by conservatives almost laughable. The views of today's "conservative Christians" would be the views of the bleeding heart leftist Christians just a few decades ago.

 If you want to discuss a religion that has been hijacked by conservatives let's talk about Islam.
33  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Sarah Palin demands...DEMANDS...impeachment. Can still see Russia from porch. on: August 21, 2014, 08:04:30 PM
Actually nothing to do with Palin. I said that because when I check here I seldom post because the only R&P posts I see are someone mocking a conservative followed by a handful of other patting him on the back or trying to outdo whatever conservative attack was launched. Can't recall when the last time I saw an intelligent discussion here with people differing on the position in a civil manner and discussing nuances.

Just means I check a lot but post little. Just decrying that GT is becoming a place I don't get much out of unless the is some console game I want to discuss. Which is to say not very often.

For example we have a very good back and forth discussion about Ferguson going on at OO, while here there has been an anti-religion thread and an anti-Palin one. Not much to discuss there.
34  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Sarah Palin demands...DEMANDS...impeachment. Can still see Russia from porch. on: August 21, 2014, 05:38:00 PM
This forum should be renamed to "Echo Chamber"
35  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Where do you stand on the crucial topic of hotdogs? on: August 18, 2014, 02:00:32 PM
I've never found them all that hot, and I think they may not even really be made from dogs.

 ninja2
36  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Anyone been to the National WWII Museum in New Orleans? Other cool stuff there? on: August 12, 2014, 06:28:50 AM
Went last year. As noted more details in the OO thread. The 4D movie is a must. The submarine experience not so much, and that coming from a submariner. It was pretty cheesy. One day should be plenty.

My 11 year old son loved it, even my 18 year old daughter liked it and she usually hates all the historic stuff I want to visit.
37  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: August 11, 2014, 06:14:00 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on August 11, 2014, 06:00:00 PM

What does it say when Laura Ingraham blames our initial intervention for their current sorry state of affairs?

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Ingraham added that she was “not saying” she wanted to see U.S. forces return to Iraq: “I don’t know if there’s a good solution right now, which is a horrible thing to say for the United States of America.”

Later in the segment, Ingraham pointed out that al Qaeda — through its ISIS offshoot group — was “becoming the Islamic state.”

“We tried to do all these things in Iraq, now Iraq is worse off!” she exclaimed. “I mean, I hate to say that, but Iraq is worse than before we went in to Iraq. Christians are gone, there’s no sense of order at all.”

“Saddam Hussein is gone. That’s a good thing, but what’s left? A more embolden Islamic state.”

Probably not much different than when Hillary blames it on Uncle Barry.

http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-blames-islamic-militants-rise-obama-policies-195239199.html;_ylt=AwrSyCNN8edTnRMAGVDQtDMD
38  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: August 11, 2014, 04:37:38 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 11, 2014, 04:23:45 PM

Don't you mean "THANKS OBAMA!".

p.s. It helps when you provide evidence to support your denial of that claim.   slywink

and here I was thinking the burden of proof should be on the person making a claim.
39  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: How not to defend the second amendment on: July 26, 2014, 06:39:06 PM
Open carry, as long as it isn't alcohol.
40  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Chic fil a and their overly religious behavior. on: July 26, 2014, 06:37:28 PM

Quote from: Moliere on July 25, 2014, 03:29:24 PM

I have this aggressive customer service problem with my bank. Every time I walk in there are 3 tellers and a greeter trying to talk to me. Then they start asking me about my day, am I working today or have the day off, what's for lunch, and what are my plans for the weekend.

Your soul, we claim it.
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