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4921  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 23, 2006, 10:38:41 PM
Been playing more of the PS3, talking to a lot of people about it.

The PS3 was a rush job, pure and simple. The only difference between it and the PS2 really is that the PS2 got lucky with its rush job :-p. I've seen Sega Saturn launches fare better than this.

From what I've been told from the developer community, the PS3 is like a nicely riced up Honda with an aggressive NOS. Beautiful for what it's supposed to go; go fast and go powerful. Problem is, doing anything fanciful with that power causes some serious issues.

With the Cell processor and nVidia's graphics chip, what developers ended up dealing with is something akin to programming the Sega Saturn's 9 individual processors to work in unison. Plus, like the PS2, the PS3 ends up wasting a lot of power right off the batt.

Eventually, developers will get the hang of it, and start harnessing all the power the PS3's hemmoraging, but with the difficulty of the development environment (Even Sony's internal R&D for the PS3 is scratching their heads at many of the graphical glitches and framerate issues), and the natural competitive nature of the industry when it comes to sharing code and development libraries, we're probably looking at at least 2 years before we start seeing a signifigant power jump between the 360 and the PS3, especially now that developers are starting get a grasp on the 360's hardware (Valve just recently managed to learn to influence the triple thread of the 360's processor).

Heck, some developers are even saying that the graphical capabilities of the 360 are way beyond the PS3's. Keep in mind this isn't about overall processing power, which the PS3 has 'a little more' of (as it's been said by a few developers), but the capabilities of ATI's chipset in the 360 and nVidia's chipset (an estimated 15-25% processing ability to ATI's Unified Shader arcitecture.)

But sincerely, when people are seeing games like Gears of War next to Resistance (GoW trumps it HARD), and even the same game on both the platforms (Marvel Ultimate Alliance on the XBox 360 stomps the PS3 version), Sony's going to have a long and painfully difficult road to keep it in everyone's mind that the PS3 is indeed the more powerful system, and that spending approx $100 to $300 more for one is worth their money. On top of that, game costs for the PS3 will in the long run be higher than their competitors, primarily because of the long development times and resources that will have to go into PS3 games. Because of this, much of the PS3's 'exclusives' will end up on the 'next best thing' after six months.

Bring in Nintendo playing cutthroat and just plain attempting to undercut Sony's next gen entry by saturating the market with the readily more available Wiis...

Sega Saturn launch... potential 3D0 lifespan.
4922  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Resistance vs Gears of War - FIGHT! on: November 23, 2006, 10:36:02 PM
Gears of War really isn't all that much better looking. I'm not the only one that thinks that either. Both games look fantastic and I would give the edge to GoW, but not by much.

That's ludicrous. GoW destroys Resistance, someone post some side by side comparisons please.
4923  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Attn Gamespot: Get off your ass, seriously... on: November 22, 2006, 09:58:56 PM
You guys make it seem like being a kid is a bad thing  icon_biggrin

It's never been a debate that Nintendo caters to the younger audience, is it different with the Wii generation?
4924  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Attn Gamespot: Get off your ass, seriously... on: November 22, 2006, 07:03:52 PM
The whole point in Wii Sports is to act like you're actually playing a sports game.

The way I look at it, if I want to actually play a sports game, I'll actually go play a sports game. Everyone has a different expecation out of their gaming, I personally expect to sit back in my seat and get lost in the world. That's why games like Guitar Hero and DDR have never appealed to me. It's fun for a few weekends, but it gets old fast. But that's fine, with the 360 and PS3 geared towards the older audience, it's good to have one geared towards the kids.
4925  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: MS Paid up! on: November 21, 2006, 03:15:35 AM
And you have contributed soo much.

Why, thank you. I can say the same for you.  Roll Eyes
4926  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Attn Gamespot: Get off your ass, seriously... on: November 21, 2006, 03:11:43 AM
You played it right? One game would have an easier time standing up for, a game that is more of a party game, and you condem the console as a kids toy. You really don't know what the hell you are talking about.

I have played it. When I took another point away from the Wii, it was in response to having to stand up to control certain games properly. Notice that I only took one point away  icon_wink I have many reasons for disliking the Wii.
4927  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Attn Gamespot: Get off your ass, seriously... on: November 21, 2006, 03:04:36 AM
I'm not overweight or lazy, and that's exactly how I would be playing. I don't know what their case may be, but after being on my feet most of the day working and such I'd rather come home and relax on the couch when I play my games rather than have to stand up.

-1 from the Wii. I'm sorry but I really don't like this machine. Kids Toy FTW.
4928  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: MS Paid up! on: November 21, 2006, 02:55:54 AM
My, how thread quality has gone up these days  thumbsdown
4929  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 18, 2006, 08:57:53 PM
I simply said Resistance looks and feels like a PS2/Xbox game, which may have been a bit extreme, but I was only making a point.

In end, we all know that the PS3 is far from doomed, it will sell a ton of units throughout 2007, and I'm sure we'll begin to see some titles that actually utilize the PS3's power in a year.
4930  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 18, 2006, 08:14:26 PM
I honestly don't think Resistance scaled down as low as 480p when I played it, I'm almost certain (guess i'll have to confirm it to back up my arguements) the TV at least supports 720p. It wasn't a resolution problem with Resistance, it was an crappy-looking game problem. Still, if the game was scaled to 480p, that doesn't solve the flat physics and gameplay mechanics problem.
4931  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 18, 2006, 07:47:37 PM
dude, I seriously call bullshit on this.  Resistance looks exactly like a PS2 game?  f'in BS

Call it whatever you want, the notions were unanimous to all of us playing the game. All I know is that we had the system set to 1080i, I really don't give a fuck about all the technical explanations as to why the games aren't looking good. We set the system to the TV's native resolution, popped in the games, and played. There shouldn't need to be any "tinkering" beyond that. Also, I highly doubt, even if the games were scaled down to 480p, that my opinions would be so different. A game either looks good or it doesn't, Resistance doesn't look good, it should have been released last generation.
4932  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 18, 2006, 07:27:36 PM
Well, that explains Marvel Ultimate Alliance I suppose. What about all the other games?  :icon_confused: I'm not sure if the TV doesn't support 720P though, I'll have to ask him. Thanks for mentioning the better framerate on the 360 version though, I'll be sure to stick to that one since apparently it's the better version.
4933  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamespot Zelda Review! on: November 18, 2006, 07:19:16 PM
"The combat controls using the Wii Remote may feel somewhat different from past games, but it doesn't draw you into the experience any more than using a standard controller would, and at worst, it's imprecise."

The Wii is dead. I'm sticking with the GC version. 
4934  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 18, 2006, 07:09:21 PM
Quote runs in 1080p, what more do you want?

Anyway, I completely disagree with you. Are you sure that his TV could handle the resolutions? Remember, if your TV doesn't support 720p, it will downrez the game to 480p. Many older Sony HDTV's don't support 720p

The TV supports up to 1080i, I believe. Regardless, when I looked at Ultimate Alliance I kept thinking it needed a higher resolution. I guess the textures are just blurry or something. 
4935  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamespot Zelda Review! on: November 18, 2006, 11:21:15 AM
Ouch, what was the last Zelda game to be scored below 9?
4936  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 18, 2006, 11:16:31 AM
Please, let's leave the fanboy and scalper-hating debates out of this one and give our impressions on the system and software. Unfortunately, I have to start it off on a negative note.

So, I just got back from a PS3 party my friend hosted in his home theater and overall I came away unimpressed with the console and it's launch line-up. We already knew it was a crummy line-up of games, and I'm sorry but Resistance is not a killer-app by any means of the definition. Granted, I didn't play it for more than half an hour at the most, but it was lacking in SO many areas. Graphically, the game is a dud. Half-Life 2 looks better than this! The physics engine is crap, you shoot objects and they don't move. Then there's the combat mechanics themselves which are quite simple and felt constricted. Older games are outshining Resistance. It's possible that the game may be good overall, again I only played it for about half an hour. Regardless, it looks and feels like a PS2/Xbox game to me. Not what I expect from a $600 machine.

As for the console unit itself: Big, heavy, non-convenient. Seriously, that thing is huge and oddly shaped. Shitty design. If the PS2 was a toaster, then the PS3 is an outdoor grill. As for the controllers, a direct copy of the PS2 controllers except the R1 and R2 buttons are like a button/trigger hybrid. The controllers are still too small. I do like the motion sensor thing though, I think it could be awesome in some games. The loss of rumble capability will be felt though.

The remainder of the launch titles left me wanting more. Ridge Racer 7 has amazing draw distance, but the car models are boring and really it's just nothing above average. NBA 07's character models and animation are astounding at times, and surprisingly average at others. Marvel Ultimate Alliance needs an increase in resolution, and while playing with four players the frame rate was iffy.

Played a Blu-Ray movie, Talladega(sp?) Nights, I liked the clearer image but come on, is this really the jump from standard to high-definition movies?

The user interface itself is sleek... that's all I have to say about that. I didn't see much of an integration of the PS Online network (or whatever they are dubbing it) as with the 360.

On the bright side, I anticipate that the system will realy begin to shine in 1-2 years, I know Sony packed a lot of horse-power under the hood of the PS3 so I look forward to later generations of games. As for now, it's a lemon in my eyes.

*The system was hooked up to a 56" Sony HDTV with HDMI output, incase some of you think I might have been playing this on an SDTV or something.
4937  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Launch Thread on: November 17, 2006, 07:26:28 PM
You know what needs to be done in response to these damn PS3 auctions? We need to create bogus Ebay accounts and flood the auctions with bogus bids.
4938  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Launch Thread on: November 15, 2006, 08:23:20 PM
I've always wondered what would happen if someone decided to set up shop in front of the first person in line and be a bully about it, since it's not an official line or anything.
4939  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy III (DS) Impressions on: November 15, 2006, 08:11:57 PM
- It seems pretty hardcore.  No saving in dungeons.  Well you can do a quicksave anytime out of battle but once you load it it disappears.  Permanent saves apparently only happen on the world map.

What do you mean by being able to quicksave any time out of battle, but once you load it it disappears? What disappears? Also, is this based off your experience in the first dungeon? Perhaps in larger dungeons there are savepoints?
4940  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Scalper = Asshole on: November 15, 2006, 06:12:04 AM
So you find humor in someone buying an expensive item and then breaking it in front of people, that are potentially missing out on THAT particular item? Ok.

I would be laughing my ass off, even if I was one of those people in line witnessing it happen  finger
4941  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Launch Thread on: November 14, 2006, 09:39:17 PM
I love launch insanity, so entertaining  icon_twisted
4942  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Launch Thread on: November 09, 2006, 09:31:03 PM
They should have gotten a dang Twisted Metal game ready for PS3 this year, Twisted Metal Black is the game that sold me on PS2. FF and MGS can eat my ass, other games do what they do better time and time again.
4943  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: IGN Zelda TP impressions on: November 09, 2006, 09:20:30 PM
I would never trust impressions from a hardcore Nintendo fan, never in my life. However, I do agree with the analogy of the rumble in a controller. I love having rumble in the controller, of course a vibration in your hands does not replicate how a lead pipe being taken to your face would feel. It does add to the experience though, most definately. So if wrist movements as opposed to button pressing adds to the experience, I want it. And to know for sure, I too will wait for people's impressions in the forum.
4944  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360]Gears of War-Impressions on: November 09, 2006, 01:05:07 AM
I love how this thread has been reduced to two pages of people's impressions of acquiring the game itself rather than playing it.   saywhat
4945  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Tony Hawk Project 8 Review for PS3 and 360 on: November 08, 2006, 08:04:47 PM
How do the PS3 and 360 versions compare graphically?
4946  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Launch Thread on: November 07, 2006, 05:50:00 PM
Ah, I had forgotten all about the forced bundles. Hell, I couldn't afford a Wii and PS3 this month even if I managed to get a pre-order. Seriously, they only have ONE bundle option for the Wii?
4947  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: G.o.W. on: November 07, 2006, 05:40:44 PM
Other games would have been hammered for these reasons. How is it that this title gets a pass? I'm sure the game is great, but a ten should have less major or minor missteps.

The same can be said for any major release. FF12, Halo 2, and almost any other high-profile game you can think if is usually given a pass when it comes to issues which would otherwise bring any other game down a few notches. However, I'm beginning to understand why reviewers give games perfect scores. No game is perfect, no video game ever released has been without issues, the only thing you can honestly rate on is the experience. Despite GoW's issues, the guy made it clear that the entire time he was impressed, he probably deemed it to be the perfect gaming experience. That's my take on games given 9 and 10's when they have some obvious flaws.
4948  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Addiction in Surround Sound on: November 06, 2006, 11:49:55 PM
Yeah seriously that looks fucking sweet...
4949  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Launch Thread on: November 05, 2006, 02:20:48 AM
I feel like people are becoming interested in Resistance by default, there's nothing else whatsoever to get excited about or justify the price tag of the console. If Resistance was to be exclusive on the 360 this year, god forbid the same month as Gears of War, I don't think nearly as many people would care about it. Not to mention the developer, Insomniac, doesn't have any experience outside of the worlds of Spyro and Ratchet.
4950  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Launch Thread on: November 04, 2006, 06:32:29 PM
I have to admit, the only interest I have in getting my hands on a PS3 this year would to be to resell it for profit. As a machine I actually want to play games on, I'm not interested for at least another 6 months.
4951  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Need.... 360.... SO badly... on: November 04, 2006, 06:23:50 PM
Yeah, I'm thinking I can manage to hold off until early 07 as well. I definately want another 360 before Bioshock and Mass Effect are released.
4952  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Need.... 360.... SO badly... on: November 04, 2006, 01:04:32 AM
Under unfortunate circumstances I had to sell my Xbox 360 (or make a trade, rather), this was around the time Madden 07 was released. I haven't touched a 360 since then, and with the upcoming fall line-up I am DYING to own a 360 again. I want to play Saint's Row, I missed that one. I want to play F.E.A.R, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Splinter Cell: DA, Call of Duty 3, Fuzion Frenzy 2, Gears of War, DOAX2, Rainbow 6: Vegas... Ah it's not fair! crybaby

You really don't know what you've got until it's gone, I miss my 360  tear
4953  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: F.U.R. - Final Fantasy XII [PS2] on: November 03, 2006, 08:34:25 PM
People seriously need to stop rating this game if they haven't even logged more than 20 hours, even crummy RPG's seem good until you reach the half way mark and realize it's not worth finishing. Rating the first 10 hours of the game just seems pointless to me.
4954  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: G.o.W. on: November 03, 2006, 08:30:26 PM
Don't forget, a lot of people have actually already played the game or at least been given a live demonstration at E3, and all those people say it's awesome.
4955  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I caught one of my local Gamestops in a lie on: November 03, 2006, 08:24:35 PM
I think some of you are taking this too far, it's not THAT horrible of a retail environment. Sure, they can pressure you with suggestive selling, but is it that difficult to interrupt them and say "Sorry, I'm not interested, please don't offer me anything else"? That would shut them up right there, and if they make some snide remark, ask to talk to that person's manager (even if it's the store manager).

Oh, and I have a tip for people who wish to make their complaints heard. There is actually an 800 number that you can call, I forget what the heck the number is though, and the number of calls is actually tallied in each district. If a district gets a lot of these calls, they go on some sort of list and the DM is given hell from the Regional Manager. I remember my DM telling me about that. So if you wan't to beat them, beat them at their own game by hurting their productivity.
4956  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I caught one of my local Gamestops in a lie on: November 03, 2006, 08:17:31 PM
Kobra said:
I call every company I do business with to bitch, moan, cry or threaten to cancel.

Ouch, where's your dignity? I mean you are right, it's a dog eat dog world out there, and you've decided to be a bitch.
4957  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I caught one of my local Gamestops in a lie on: November 02, 2006, 09:39:54 PM
Wow, some of you have some outrageous stories. You really should make an effort to talk to the district manager of the store you are shopping at if that stuff is happening. It would do a whole hell of a lot more than complaining in a message forum.
4958  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I caught one of my local Gamestops in a lie on: November 02, 2006, 09:34:55 PM
Luckily, the people in this thread complaining are actually a minority in the customer base for most of these stores. I was a store manager at both a GameStop and an EB for a while, and you guys wouldn't believe the amount of pressure I was put under to make good numbers. They basically threatened to fire a store manager if they couldn't produce good numbers (numbers meaning pre-orders, subscriptions, used game sales, guarantees, etc.). Honestly, as a manager, I didn't care too much about my net sales because as much as they wanted me to believe it, having higher sales did NOT give me more hours to work with. Like others have said, stores with 1/3 the amount of business as a high volume store gets nearly the same amount of hours. So, all I cared about were people who regularly pre-ordered or traded in and bought used games. When I say I cared about those people, I mean I treated them extremely well. Addressed them by their first name, hooked them up with a magazine from time to time, made small talk, etc. Regular shoppers who were adamant about not pre-ordering and so on just got regular joe schmoe treatment, I could care less if they ever returned. I could care even LESS if they complained about me, because the way my DM put it, if they were complaining about me being too pushy, I was doing my job. At some point, when doing interviews, I would basically give interviewees a disclaimer to let them know that it was a highly competetive environment, we're big on suggestive selling, and if you couldn't keep up you wouldn't be given any hours. I'm not trying to be an asshole about the whole situation, that's just how it works in the GS/EB world, it's a tough game to be played.

I would definately complain if I was being blatantly lied to, or being called an idiot, that's inexcusable. But otherwise, as far as all the pushy salesmanship, your best bet is to just order online if you don't want to deal with sales people.
4959  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New PS3 Game Pics - Wow on: November 01, 2006, 06:53:29 PM

From what I've read, there aren't any improvements, not even faster load times. There will be a new faction, which will most likely be available to download for the 360 version eventually, but nothing other than that.
4960  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] Oh boy.....this could get real ugly.... on: November 01, 2006, 06:50:04 PM
Fuck it, I'm going to pay someone to steal me a PS3 from an unsuspecting customer walking out of a game store with one. It'll still be cheaper than what I would have to pay someone on Ebay for it.
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