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4681  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What the Cell is going on? on: December 01, 2006, 12:42:11 AM
Sony does need to show why people should buy their more expensive machine, but the proof (or lack thereof) will come in their first-party and PS3-exclusive games.  If those don't look any better than what the 360 can put out, then they've got a problem.

Wouldn't that be Resistance and Gears of War? I think what the article is simply pointing out is that the PS3 isn't a leap beyond the 360 as Sony was making it out to be, and considering you have to pay much more for a PS3 over a 360, the graphical difference does not warrant the price difference to people who solely care about gaming. Fall 2007 will definately be an exciting battle, I fully intend to have a 1080p HDTV (my current supports up to 1080i), and of course a PS3 and Xbox 360, waiting to contend for my gaming hours. I'm excited!  icon_biggrin

Oh, and I guess I can pull out the Wii when we have kids or old people or otherwise those who rarely play games hanging out at the house  icon_biggrin  icon_biggrin
4682  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What the Cell is going on? on: November 30, 2006, 09:48:13 PM
Interesting article from 1Up that I enjoyed:

What the Cell is Going On?

Blu-ray. The Cell Processor. The RSX graphics chip. The PS3 was supposed to be the most insanely advanced gaming machine ever created. It was supposed to be able to deliver visuals well beyond anything capable on console or PC. According to Sony, the next generation wasn't supposed to begin until PS3 arrived.

So why is it, then, that all these PS3 games look just the same as they do on the Xbox 360?

When the PS2 first launched, Sony demanded that all games on the system be enhanced visually over their rival platform counterparts. The PS2 represented the next generation of gaming, and software was required to support this notion. With the PS3, Sony seemingly has no such requirements, offering us only that it "expects and encourages publishers working on PS3 titles to take full advantage of the technology and features that PS3 provides." Well, encouraging may not be enough. And promises for better looking games in the future don't really cut it. The PS3 is here now, it costs an extra $200 (at minimum), and the visual difference is questionable.

Don't believe us? We put the PS3 lineup to the test. We captured images and video of several games and their Xbox 360 counterparts - using the same exact capture device, with same type of connection cables, running at the same exact resolutions. Now you tell us, are we just missing something or was the next generation here all along?

You can find the rest of the article here:
4683  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 360 HD-DVD playback over VGA just got a WHOLE lot better on: November 30, 2006, 08:52:15 PM
So between VGA, Component, and HDMI, which gives the best display?
4684  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Britney has finally done it.......**NSFW LINK** on: November 28, 2006, 11:05:45 PM
Oh and by the way, I can't believe I used to want to hit that  saywhat
4685  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Britney has finally done it.......**NSFW LINK** on: November 28, 2006, 11:00:08 PM
If anyone cares to store those photos on their computer and e-mail them to me in case the website dies before I can get home, PM me for my e-mail address.

That is just plain wierd.
4686  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Motorstorm - The Real PS3 Killer App! on: November 28, 2006, 02:53:20 AM
Also heard framerate complaints - drops below 30 often.

Not a surprise, this system really should have came out a year later. If not to let Sony build up a decent supply of their product, at least to give developers the extra time needed to gain experience developing on the PS3 dev kits. I really don't see what would have been so bad for Sony to release the PS3 mid-late 2007 in the U.S, it's not like Sony has any units to sell us here and they ended up embarrasing themselves with a lackluster launch.

Don't get me wrong, I do hope Motorstorm turns out to be a good game, it's one of the few I was looking forward to.

I thought NHL 2K7 was the PS3's killer app?

I thought it was Blast Factor because it actually has a smooth frame rate.
4687  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Resistance vs Gears of War - FIGHT! on: November 27, 2006, 07:52:31 PM
I don't hate the PS3, I just don't see a reason to buy one any time soon. The price isn't as big a deciding factor for me as wanting a machine that I'll actually use. Not to mention, the whole allure of buying the newest, bestest machine wasn't there because the 360 is more impressive than the PS3 out the gate.

The only difference I noticed between the two versions of Marvel was the strange graphical glitches the PS3 version had.  Otherwise, they were pretty damn close.  On a 60" 1080p TV, maybe there are minor differences.  I'd wager that 99% of the public couldn't tell them apart on 99% of the TVs out there though (if the PS3 one was working correctly).

I think the frame rate issues mainly pop up when there are 3-4 people playing.
4688  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Motorstorm - The Real PS3 Killer App! on: November 27, 2006, 07:48:08 PM
Gran Turismo 3 sold A TON of PS2s. I'd say a racing game is much more likely to be a killer app than a title like Final Fantasy or MGS4.

Now I'm getting confused with the definition of a killer app. Is a killer app a game that helps boost sales of a system, or a game considered worth buying the console solely for that game?
4689  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Motorstorm - The Real PS3 Killer App! on: November 27, 2006, 07:44:02 PM
Yeah, really grim, Mr. "Resistance looks like a Xbox or PS2 game".

Fine... I really really souped up Xbox/PS2 game. Is that better?  Roll Eyes
4690  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Resistance vs Gears of War - FIGHT! on: November 27, 2006, 07:40:00 PM
Oh and the 360 versions stomps the PS3 version so hard, it has worse reviews according to Game Rankings....pretty incredible.

Regarding Resistance and Marvel PS3 in comparison to GoW and Marvel 360, respectively, I was referring to the graphics. Resistance doesn't hold up to GoW, I don't think a cumulative score for both games would specifically reflect that. Also, the 360 and PS3 versions of Marvel look the same, but the 360 version has better frame rates.

I still hold my opinion of Resistance, having put some more time into the single and multiplayer. I feel it may be a good game but a killer-app it is not.

That being said, WTF does that have to do with this topic?

Nothing at all, but Hetz is running out of ammo  icon_lol
4691  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Motorstorm - The Real PS3 Killer App! on: November 27, 2006, 07:30:08 PM
Hehe, not many times do you hear a racing game called a killer app, I wonder how much Motorsport can possibly be beyond other racing experiences out there?

On second thought, I suppose it's all relative. The PS3 library must be looking grim at the moment.
4692  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Resistance vs Gears of War - FIGHT! on: November 26, 2006, 08:09:50 PM
Insomniac managed to stay in the race with Epic, and that is no small accomplishment.

Hey, Blizzard had no MMO experience yet they came in and owned the genre slywink
4693  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 23, 2006, 10:38:41 PM
Been playing more of the PS3, talking to a lot of people about it.

The PS3 was a rush job, pure and simple. The only difference between it and the PS2 really is that the PS2 got lucky with its rush job :-p. I've seen Sega Saturn launches fare better than this.

From what I've been told from the developer community, the PS3 is like a nicely riced up Honda with an aggressive NOS. Beautiful for what it's supposed to go; go fast and go powerful. Problem is, doing anything fanciful with that power causes some serious issues.

With the Cell processor and nVidia's graphics chip, what developers ended up dealing with is something akin to programming the Sega Saturn's 9 individual processors to work in unison. Plus, like the PS2, the PS3 ends up wasting a lot of power right off the batt.

Eventually, developers will get the hang of it, and start harnessing all the power the PS3's hemmoraging, but with the difficulty of the development environment (Even Sony's internal R&D for the PS3 is scratching their heads at many of the graphical glitches and framerate issues), and the natural competitive nature of the industry when it comes to sharing code and development libraries, we're probably looking at at least 2 years before we start seeing a signifigant power jump between the 360 and the PS3, especially now that developers are starting get a grasp on the 360's hardware (Valve just recently managed to learn to influence the triple thread of the 360's processor).

Heck, some developers are even saying that the graphical capabilities of the 360 are way beyond the PS3's. Keep in mind this isn't about overall processing power, which the PS3 has 'a little more' of (as it's been said by a few developers), but the capabilities of ATI's chipset in the 360 and nVidia's chipset (an estimated 15-25% processing ability to ATI's Unified Shader arcitecture.)

But sincerely, when people are seeing games like Gears of War next to Resistance (GoW trumps it HARD), and even the same game on both the platforms (Marvel Ultimate Alliance on the XBox 360 stomps the PS3 version), Sony's going to have a long and painfully difficult road to keep it in everyone's mind that the PS3 is indeed the more powerful system, and that spending approx $100 to $300 more for one is worth their money. On top of that, game costs for the PS3 will in the long run be higher than their competitors, primarily because of the long development times and resources that will have to go into PS3 games. Because of this, much of the PS3's 'exclusives' will end up on the 'next best thing' after six months.

Bring in Nintendo playing cutthroat and just plain attempting to undercut Sony's next gen entry by saturating the market with the readily more available Wiis...

Sega Saturn launch... potential 3D0 lifespan.
4694  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Resistance vs Gears of War - FIGHT! on: November 23, 2006, 10:36:02 PM
Gears of War really isn't all that much better looking. I'm not the only one that thinks that either. Both games look fantastic and I would give the edge to GoW, but not by much.

That's ludicrous. GoW destroys Resistance, someone post some side by side comparisons please.
4695  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Attn Gamespot: Get off your ass, seriously... on: November 22, 2006, 09:58:56 PM
You guys make it seem like being a kid is a bad thing  icon_biggrin

It's never been a debate that Nintendo caters to the younger audience, is it different with the Wii generation?
4696  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Attn Gamespot: Get off your ass, seriously... on: November 22, 2006, 07:03:52 PM
The whole point in Wii Sports is to act like you're actually playing a sports game.

The way I look at it, if I want to actually play a sports game, I'll actually go play a sports game. Everyone has a different expecation out of their gaming, I personally expect to sit back in my seat and get lost in the world. That's why games like Guitar Hero and DDR have never appealed to me. It's fun for a few weekends, but it gets old fast. But that's fine, with the 360 and PS3 geared towards the older audience, it's good to have one geared towards the kids.
4697  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: MS Paid up! on: November 21, 2006, 03:15:35 AM
And you have contributed soo much.

Why, thank you. I can say the same for you.  Roll Eyes
4698  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Attn Gamespot: Get off your ass, seriously... on: November 21, 2006, 03:11:43 AM
You played it right? One game would have an easier time standing up for, a game that is more of a party game, and you condem the console as a kids toy. You really don't know what the hell you are talking about.

I have played it. When I took another point away from the Wii, it was in response to having to stand up to control certain games properly. Notice that I only took one point away  icon_wink I have many reasons for disliking the Wii.
4699  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Attn Gamespot: Get off your ass, seriously... on: November 21, 2006, 03:04:36 AM
I'm not overweight or lazy, and that's exactly how I would be playing. I don't know what their case may be, but after being on my feet most of the day working and such I'd rather come home and relax on the couch when I play my games rather than have to stand up.

-1 from the Wii. I'm sorry but I really don't like this machine. Kids Toy FTW.
4700  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: MS Paid up! on: November 21, 2006, 02:55:54 AM
My, how thread quality has gone up these days  thumbsdown
4701  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 18, 2006, 08:57:53 PM
I simply said Resistance looks and feels like a PS2/Xbox game, which may have been a bit extreme, but I was only making a point.

In end, we all know that the PS3 is far from doomed, it will sell a ton of units throughout 2007, and I'm sure we'll begin to see some titles that actually utilize the PS3's power in a year.
4702  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 18, 2006, 08:14:26 PM
I honestly don't think Resistance scaled down as low as 480p when I played it, I'm almost certain (guess i'll have to confirm it to back up my arguements) the TV at least supports 720p. It wasn't a resolution problem with Resistance, it was an crappy-looking game problem. Still, if the game was scaled to 480p, that doesn't solve the flat physics and gameplay mechanics problem.
4703  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 18, 2006, 07:47:37 PM
dude, I seriously call bullshit on this.  Resistance looks exactly like a PS2 game?  f'in BS

Call it whatever you want, the notions were unanimous to all of us playing the game. All I know is that we had the system set to 1080i, I really don't give a fuck about all the technical explanations as to why the games aren't looking good. We set the system to the TV's native resolution, popped in the games, and played. There shouldn't need to be any "tinkering" beyond that. Also, I highly doubt, even if the games were scaled down to 480p, that my opinions would be so different. A game either looks good or it doesn't, Resistance doesn't look good, it should have been released last generation.
4704  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 18, 2006, 07:27:36 PM
Well, that explains Marvel Ultimate Alliance I suppose. What about all the other games?  :icon_confused: I'm not sure if the TV doesn't support 720P though, I'll have to ask him. Thanks for mentioning the better framerate on the 360 version though, I'll be sure to stick to that one since apparently it's the better version.
4705  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamespot Zelda Review! on: November 18, 2006, 07:19:16 PM
"The combat controls using the Wii Remote may feel somewhat different from past games, but it doesn't draw you into the experience any more than using a standard controller would, and at worst, it's imprecise."

The Wii is dead. I'm sticking with the GC version. 
4706  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 18, 2006, 07:09:21 PM
Quote runs in 1080p, what more do you want?

Anyway, I completely disagree with you. Are you sure that his TV could handle the resolutions? Remember, if your TV doesn't support 720p, it will downrez the game to 480p. Many older Sony HDTV's don't support 720p

The TV supports up to 1080i, I believe. Regardless, when I looked at Ultimate Alliance I kept thinking it needed a higher resolution. I guess the textures are just blurry or something. 
4707  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamespot Zelda Review! on: November 18, 2006, 11:21:15 AM
Ouch, what was the last Zelda game to be scored below 9?
4708  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 system and software - straight up impressions thread on: November 18, 2006, 11:16:31 AM
Please, let's leave the fanboy and scalper-hating debates out of this one and give our impressions on the system and software. Unfortunately, I have to start it off on a negative note.

So, I just got back from a PS3 party my friend hosted in his home theater and overall I came away unimpressed with the console and it's launch line-up. We already knew it was a crummy line-up of games, and I'm sorry but Resistance is not a killer-app by any means of the definition. Granted, I didn't play it for more than half an hour at the most, but it was lacking in SO many areas. Graphically, the game is a dud. Half-Life 2 looks better than this! The physics engine is crap, you shoot objects and they don't move. Then there's the combat mechanics themselves which are quite simple and felt constricted. Older games are outshining Resistance. It's possible that the game may be good overall, again I only played it for about half an hour. Regardless, it looks and feels like a PS2/Xbox game to me. Not what I expect from a $600 machine.

As for the console unit itself: Big, heavy, non-convenient. Seriously, that thing is huge and oddly shaped. Shitty design. If the PS2 was a toaster, then the PS3 is an outdoor grill. As for the controllers, a direct copy of the PS2 controllers except the R1 and R2 buttons are like a button/trigger hybrid. The controllers are still too small. I do like the motion sensor thing though, I think it could be awesome in some games. The loss of rumble capability will be felt though.

The remainder of the launch titles left me wanting more. Ridge Racer 7 has amazing draw distance, but the car models are boring and really it's just nothing above average. NBA 07's character models and animation are astounding at times, and surprisingly average at others. Marvel Ultimate Alliance needs an increase in resolution, and while playing with four players the frame rate was iffy.

Played a Blu-Ray movie, Talladega(sp?) Nights, I liked the clearer image but come on, is this really the jump from standard to high-definition movies?

The user interface itself is sleek... that's all I have to say about that. I didn't see much of an integration of the PS Online network (or whatever they are dubbing it) as with the 360.

On the bright side, I anticipate that the system will realy begin to shine in 1-2 years, I know Sony packed a lot of horse-power under the hood of the PS3 so I look forward to later generations of games. As for now, it's a lemon in my eyes.

*The system was hooked up to a 56" Sony HDTV with HDMI output, incase some of you think I might have been playing this on an SDTV or something.
4709  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Launch Thread on: November 17, 2006, 07:26:28 PM
You know what needs to be done in response to these damn PS3 auctions? We need to create bogus Ebay accounts and flood the auctions with bogus bids.
4710  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Launch Thread on: November 15, 2006, 08:23:20 PM
I've always wondered what would happen if someone decided to set up shop in front of the first person in line and be a bully about it, since it's not an official line or anything.
4711  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy III (DS) Impressions on: November 15, 2006, 08:11:57 PM
- It seems pretty hardcore.  No saving in dungeons.  Well you can do a quicksave anytime out of battle but once you load it it disappears.  Permanent saves apparently only happen on the world map.

What do you mean by being able to quicksave any time out of battle, but once you load it it disappears? What disappears? Also, is this based off your experience in the first dungeon? Perhaps in larger dungeons there are savepoints?
4712  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Scalper = Asshole on: November 15, 2006, 06:12:04 AM
So you find humor in someone buying an expensive item and then breaking it in front of people, that are potentially missing out on THAT particular item? Ok.

I would be laughing my ass off, even if I was one of those people in line witnessing it happen  finger
4713  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Launch Thread on: November 14, 2006, 09:39:17 PM
I love launch insanity, so entertaining  icon_twisted
4714  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Launch Thread on: November 09, 2006, 09:31:03 PM
They should have gotten a dang Twisted Metal game ready for PS3 this year, Twisted Metal Black is the game that sold me on PS2. FF and MGS can eat my ass, other games do what they do better time and time again.
4715  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: IGN Zelda TP impressions on: November 09, 2006, 09:20:30 PM
I would never trust impressions from a hardcore Nintendo fan, never in my life. However, I do agree with the analogy of the rumble in a controller. I love having rumble in the controller, of course a vibration in your hands does not replicate how a lead pipe being taken to your face would feel. It does add to the experience though, most definately. So if wrist movements as opposed to button pressing adds to the experience, I want it. And to know for sure, I too will wait for people's impressions in the forum.
4716  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360]Gears of War-Impressions on: November 09, 2006, 01:05:07 AM
I love how this thread has been reduced to two pages of people's impressions of acquiring the game itself rather than playing it.   saywhat
4717  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Tony Hawk Project 8 Review for PS3 and 360 on: November 08, 2006, 08:04:47 PM
How do the PS3 and 360 versions compare graphically?
4718  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Launch Thread on: November 07, 2006, 05:50:00 PM
Ah, I had forgotten all about the forced bundles. Hell, I couldn't afford a Wii and PS3 this month even if I managed to get a pre-order. Seriously, they only have ONE bundle option for the Wii?
4719  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: G.o.W. on: November 07, 2006, 05:40:44 PM
Other games would have been hammered for these reasons. How is it that this title gets a pass? I'm sure the game is great, but a ten should have less major or minor missteps.

The same can be said for any major release. FF12, Halo 2, and almost any other high-profile game you can think if is usually given a pass when it comes to issues which would otherwise bring any other game down a few notches. However, I'm beginning to understand why reviewers give games perfect scores. No game is perfect, no video game ever released has been without issues, the only thing you can honestly rate on is the experience. Despite GoW's issues, the guy made it clear that the entire time he was impressed, he probably deemed it to be the perfect gaming experience. That's my take on games given 9 and 10's when they have some obvious flaws.
4720  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Addiction in Surround Sound on: November 06, 2006, 11:49:55 PM
Yeah seriously that looks fucking sweet...
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