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161  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: on: January 22, 2014, 12:19:48 AM

Quote from: th'FOOL on January 15, 2014, 03:12:38 AM

Quote from: Ridah on January 15, 2014, 02:59:18 AM

Quote from: th'FOOL on January 15, 2014, 02:06:25 AM

Quote from: Purge on January 15, 2014, 12:37:25 AM

If you want to compare apples to oranges, good for you. BC has meant the ability to play your old games on your new system. PS3Phat60GB did it, older PS3 emulated it, and 360 did too (select titles).

Wii *was* BC to GC.

Stuff you rebuy is a rerelease. It isn't compatibility, its programmed on the new platform. So opinion on that is pretty open/closed on that - BC is new being set up to use old, not reselling old on new.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backward_compatibility

"In telecommunications and computing, a product or technology is backward or downward compatible if it can work with input generated by an older product or technology."

It's not generated by an older product or technology, it's generated by brand new technology. The content may be old, but what generates the content is new  Tongue


Are you saying a game isn't a product?

Technically you can label anything a product. But in this case I'm calling the console the product and the game the content. It's just semantics, I know, but is there really anything else to argue about in forums? smile
162  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: on: January 15, 2014, 02:59:18 AM

Quote from: th'FOOL on January 15, 2014, 02:06:25 AM

Quote from: Purge on January 15, 2014, 12:37:25 AM

If you want to compare apples to oranges, good for you. BC has meant the ability to play your old games on your new system. PS3Phat60GB did it, older PS3 emulated it, and 360 did too (select titles).

Wii *was* BC to GC.

Stuff you rebuy is a rerelease. It isn't compatibility, its programmed on the new platform. So opinion on that is pretty open/closed on that - BC is new being set up to use old, not reselling old on new.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backward_compatibility

"In telecommunications and computing, a product or technology is backward or downward compatible if it can work with input generated by an older product or technology."

It's not generated by an older product or technology, it's generated by brand new technology. The content may be old, but what generates the content is new  Tongue
163  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: January 12, 2014, 02:07:22 AM

Quote from: Jumangi on January 11, 2014, 05:32:37 PM

Sony isn't hindering the future of games distribution. They have pushed it on the PS3 with their Day 1 Digital on PSN and with having all digital buying ability on the PS Vita. If you want to not ever buy a disc/cart with a PlayStation product you can.

Same goes for Nintendo at this point. I'm not sure if it's the case for the Wii U, but I haven't need to buy a physical game for my 3DS since launch day.
164  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC/360/PS3] Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance on: January 11, 2014, 02:31:06 AM
I'm a few hours in so far and it's not exactly knocking my socks off. It feels like a very clunky version of DMC. Not sure I understand the design choices here - fast moving character who covers lots of ground very quickly fighting in confined spaces, and throw in a mediocre camera for good measure.

It's got some PC port issues, like low-res textures and various graphical bugs but, to Konami's credit, they've been slipping in minor patches in response. At least they decided to release it on PC and at a discounted price. I got it for $23.99 on Steam (full price is $30).
165  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: January 10, 2014, 06:37:48 PM
Comparing PS Now to Microsoft's DRM policy doesn't make sense. Like Scraper said, PS Now is an optional game service that you could choose to never use.

I'll only take issue with PS Now if it means getting games like The Last of Us in a streaming format INSTEAD of a digital download format. I want the option to go either way (so I never have to stream my games, which is a joke at this point in time).
166  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: January 09, 2014, 08:49:53 PM
I would rather download the games to my hard drive and play them locally so as not to worry about all the headaches I associate with streaming content. I don't want my games to stutter and/or look compressed, I don't want to attempt to play the game and discover the service is down or under maintenance, I don't want my broken ass PS4 to not be able to connect to my wifi and cockblock me from streaming games the way it does Netflix movies, I sure as hell don't want ads during loading scenes or anything of that nature.

I think this a great directional strategy, but rubber to pavement I don't think it's going to be a fun ride for a while. There are reasons that OnLive didn't catch and technical roadblocks were a significant factor. I'm rooting for Sony here, but until the streaming experience can match the local experience to a T, I won't touch it.
167  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC/360/PS3] Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance on: January 09, 2014, 07:07:33 PM
The PC version is out today, ya'll. I've got a copy preloaded and ready for my hacking and slashing pleasure.

This is my first new game of 2014. Exciting!
168  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mass Effect 3 - Impressions Incoming! Leviathan DLC released! on: January 07, 2014, 04:37:10 PM
I enjoyed ME3 but it was certainly less potent than the first two games. I actually liked the ending(s). My biggest gripe is the way the game drops a heap of missions into your lap, many of which were very vague on where to go and what to do.
169  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: January 07, 2014, 04:27:49 PM
I'm gonna try and exchange my system for a new one. The majority of the time I just want to use it for Netflix and I consistently have trouble connecting to the network and/or launching the app. Drives me nut to think I have this $400 machine that can't even play Netflix properly. I got a lemon.

Oh well, at least I got through AC4 on it -mostly- fine (with graphic and audio hiccups sprinkled in).
170  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Games Finished 2014 Edition on: January 07, 2014, 04:19:42 PM
This is my first year tracking the games I've completed in real-time. I know I average completing around 8-12 games per year and it's probably going to be the same this year, though with so many short indie games out there these days that could change.

Games Completed in 2014

Metal Gear Solid: Revengeance (PC)
Hotline Miami (PC)
171  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/XB1/PC/Wii U/3DS/DS/Ps3/Ps4/Vita] LEGO Marvel Super Heroes on: January 03, 2014, 05:56:28 PM
It's disappointing that the PC version is single-player only. I've been wanting to play co-op with my fiance, but I've not been wanting to pay the extra $50 for another Dual Shock 4 plus the price of the game on PS4. On the PC I already have multiple 360 controllers and the game is much cheaper ($11.99 on Amazon right now!).
172  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] The Last Of Us on: January 03, 2014, 05:47:43 PM

Quote from: ATB on January 03, 2014, 02:55:40 PM

Quote from: Ridah on December 28, 2013, 07:08:08 PM

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on December 28, 2013, 02:37:32 PM

Quote from: Ridah on December 27, 2013, 07:10:21 PM

Quote from: ATB on December 27, 2013, 02:36:47 PM

Quote from: Ridah on December 26, 2013, 08:02:21 PM

I've already vocalized my distaste for this game, but seeing it receive so many GOTY awards is making me feel remorseful and want to go back and give it a second try. Hopefully one day we'll get a "definitive" version of it on the PS4 so I might have that opportunity (already gave my PS3 away to my brother).

Weren't your complaints graphical or something?

It's easily a game of the generation candidate.

I did have an issue with the framerate in a specific section of the game, but mostly I disliked the combat and most of the gameplay mechanics.


So more or less you disliked just about everything? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that maybe it's not worth trying to get another copy of the game.

No, I enjoyed the narrative, characters, and dialogue, like most of you.

Combat did get repetitive, but it's worth playing through. I'd take one of the other's recommendations and play through on easy.

Good advice. Now to convince my brother to let me borrow the PS3 I gave him  Tongue
173  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons on: December 30, 2013, 03:32:46 AM
That's strange, I had no trouble feeling a connection with the characters without them speaking my language. Between the gibberish language and the gesticulating I knew what they were thinking and feeling. I suppose because I feel that most video games are so horrendously written I was happy to not have to worry about cliche dialogue and voice acting.
174  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: No Man's Sky on: December 29, 2013, 06:30:22 PM
Since the game is procedurally generated, it could theoretically finish itself, no?
175  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons on: December 29, 2013, 06:29:00 PM
The game is only three hours long so I urge you guys to go back and finish. It started off really slow for me, but the last 2/3 of the game was much, much more interesting. Stick with it, there's more to the game than you think.
176  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Wireless Mouse Lag on: December 29, 2013, 07:28:16 AM
I'm experiencing some serious lag with my Microsoft Wireless Mouse 4000. I know it has to do with interference in the signal rather than a depleted battery because when I move the mouse only a matter of inches from my normal sitting position there's no lag. There's ONLY lag when the mouse is in a specific location, but I can't move because I'm dead centered with the TV and have no room to move forward or backward.

I've done a little bit of research and found that it could be a variety of causes - router channel (changed it, made no difference), TV signal, etc.

Any suggestions?
177  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons on: December 29, 2013, 07:07:00 AM
I searched and didn't find a thread for this already, so apologies if this is a duplicate since it's hard to believe we don't already have one already. This game is phenomenal, the way you control two characters at once is unlike anything I've experienced before and the graphics and imagery are incredible. I'm reminded a lot of ICO because of the gentle fashion in which you move about the world. It's a bit too slow paced for me, so if the game goes longer than 4-5 hours I'll probably grow bored. A few hours in though and I'm totally engrossed in it.

Something really cool that I discovered too - The language of the characters is gibberish, but there were multiple times when I could have sworn I was hearing Arabic (I speak it a little). I looked into it online and sure enough, one of the main designers is Arab and built Arabic into the gibberish. Here's an excerpt from an interview with the designer:

Actually, the language is inspired from my own language. I am originally from Lebanon, so I took my Arabic language just to get a base. Creating a gibberish language from the ground up is very hard. When you take a language that is there and you have all the accents – it feels right. I told the actors, “This is what you are saying,” and I wrote to them this and that and it sounds like a language. It wasn’t totally made up. It was made up in many senses, but it is also very inspired by my own language.

Pretty neat smile
178  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] The Last Of Us on: December 28, 2013, 07:08:08 PM

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on December 28, 2013, 02:37:32 PM

Quote from: Ridah on December 27, 2013, 07:10:21 PM

Quote from: ATB on December 27, 2013, 02:36:47 PM

Quote from: Ridah on December 26, 2013, 08:02:21 PM

I've already vocalized my distaste for this game, but seeing it receive so many GOTY awards is making me feel remorseful and want to go back and give it a second try. Hopefully one day we'll get a "definitive" version of it on the PS4 so I might have that opportunity (already gave my PS3 away to my brother).

Weren't your complaints graphical or something?

It's easily a game of the generation candidate.

I did have an issue with the framerate in a specific section of the game, but mostly I disliked the combat and most of the gameplay mechanics.


So more or less you disliked just about everything? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that maybe it's not worth trying to get another copy of the game.

No, I enjoyed the narrative, characters, and dialogue, like most of you.
179  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Steam Box - pre-made or build your own in 2014! Now with funky controller! on: December 27, 2013, 10:17:59 PM
I hooked up my desktop to my TV since I mostly use my work laptop for productivity at home now. I gotta say, it's making me wonder why I spent $400 on a PS4 slywink
180  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] The Last Of Us on: December 27, 2013, 07:10:21 PM

Quote from: ATB on December 27, 2013, 02:36:47 PM

Quote from: Ridah on December 26, 2013, 08:02:21 PM

I've already vocalized my distaste for this game, but seeing it receive so many GOTY awards is making me feel remorseful and want to go back and give it a second try. Hopefully one day we'll get a "definitive" version of it on the PS4 so I might have that opportunity (already gave my PS3 away to my brother).

Weren't your complaints graphical or something?

It's easily a game of the generation candidate.

I did have an issue with the framerate in a specific section of the game, but mostly I disliked the combat and most of the gameplay mechanics.
181  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/XB1/PS3/PS4/Wii U/PC]Assassin's Creed IV:Black Flag on: December 27, 2013, 05:40:49 AM
I finally completed the main quest line. The story was lame, frankly, and I barreled through the last quarter of the game without care for the bonus objectives. Still, it's a gorgeous and excellently crafted experience. Do they usually patch these games up? I'm thinking of coming back in a few months to do more of the side stuff once some of the bugs are ironed out.
182  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: December 27, 2013, 05:36:55 AM

Quote from: Harpua3 on December 27, 2013, 04:24:49 AM

Quote from: Ridah on December 26, 2013, 10:25:30 PM

Ok, it's sounding like a firmware issue. I'll just hold tight, then.

The would suck to do that song and dance and still have the issues after all of that effort.

I'd probably buy a new console from Costco and return the messed up one at that point  icon_cool
183  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Playstation Plus - Now with lots more free games! on: December 26, 2013, 10:26:42 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on December 26, 2013, 10:11:44 PM

DmC is very much worth playing.

Definitely. One of the best games of the year, by far.
184  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: December 26, 2013, 10:25:30 PM
Ok, it's sounding like a firmware issue. I'll just hold tight, then.
185  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] The Last Of Us on: December 26, 2013, 08:02:21 PM
I've already vocalized my distaste for this game, but seeing it receive so many GOTY awards is making me feel remorseful and want to go back and give it a second try. Hopefully one day we'll get a "definitive" version of it on the PS4 so I might have that opportunity (already gave my PS3 away to my brother).
186  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Playstation Plus - Now with lots more free games! on: December 26, 2013, 07:53:49 PM
Don't Starve is cool, I guess. Even though it's regularly on sale on Steam for $2-3.
187  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: December 26, 2013, 07:52:16 PM

Quote from: Harpua3 on December 26, 2013, 03:52:44 AM

Quote from: Ridah on December 26, 2013, 03:48:08 AM

Ugh. I'm pretty sure my f*&king console is defective. Half the time I don't get any sound after I boot up and it requires a reboot, and there have been multiple instances of the thing not connecting to the network. I also get these weird sound/video glitches during games. Anyone experience any of this?

One time I got no sound but a simple switch to tv and back to hdmi 2 fixed it. Just a receiver handshake quirk. No graphics or audio issues here like that. When did you get it?

It's a launch console. I've been hoping that the issues would be resolved in a firmware update but it hasn't happened yet and it's starting to become a major annoyance. I guess I'll contact Amazon first and then Sony, I hope I don't have to go weeks/months without it while they attempt to fix it.
188  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: December 26, 2013, 03:48:08 AM
Ugh. I'm pretty sure my f*&king console is defective. Half the time I don't get any sound after I boot up and it requires a reboot, and there have been multiple instances of the thing not connecting to the network. I also get these weird sound/video glitches during games. Anyone experience any of this?
189  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Telltale]The Walking Dead on: December 13, 2013, 01:30:46 AM

Quote from: EddieA on December 03, 2013, 09:20:01 PM

Maybe we should start a new thread for Season 2?  This thread was about the first season, and we're getting into unmarked spoiler territory.

Light it up!
190  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Grab Fallout 1, 2 & Tactics Free for the next 48 hrs on: December 12, 2013, 07:56:27 PM
Sweet, more games I'll own yet never play!  icon_cool
191  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 4 - Nuclear HOAX :( on: December 10, 2013, 07:01:02 PM
Tilt, do you work in the industry or do you just read a shit ton of information on it all?
192  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/XB1/PS3/PS4/Wii U/PC]Assassin's Creed IV:Black Flag on: December 09, 2013, 06:13:50 PM
I love exploring the world via side missions but at this point I'm trying to power through the campaign and wrap up the story. You can continue exploring and completing side missions after you finish the campaign, right? I assume that's standard for any AC game.
193  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: VGX discussion on: December 09, 2013, 05:34:34 PM
Angry Joe's piece on the show is a good watch, I think he nails it on the head and makes good suggestions on repairing the show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvW9WwDLCxg&feature=share
194  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: VGX discussion on: December 09, 2013, 06:27:33 AM
This was the first year I bothered tuning in for this show, probably because they streamed it or made it clear that you could stream it. Who the hell watches scheduled TV anymore? So, good on them for that at least. The show truly was terrible but I don't want it to go away, I just want it to evolve. That's what was supposed to have happened this year but they goofed it up.

It's been YEARS since I've watched Joel McHale on The Soup but I recall him having some pep. Is he always this laid back and lethargic? He seemed completely uninterested in being on the show, there was zero energy. Even Geoff seemed off, not that that I watch him enough to know whether or not he's usually better than this.

Geoff made a comment during the show that lots of people were streaming it and it was trending on Twitter, so there's obviously an audience. The people who are bankrolling this need to fire some staff and bring in new blood to change the direction of this thing. I don't necessarily need exclusive reveals but more new footage of upcoming games and more segments with devs would be great.
195  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Tomb Raider on: December 09, 2013, 06:08:17 AM
I like how during VGX they didn't mention the PC version at all. Let's pretend we don't already have a better looking version of the game out there!
196  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: December 07, 2013, 06:28:11 PM
Don't consoles always sell out completely between launch and Holidays (except perhaps the Wii U but we know that's likely due to confused marketing)? Are the high numbers here due to an increased demand or increased supply over previous consoles?
197  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Playstation Plus - Now with lots more free games! on: December 03, 2013, 06:42:00 AM
Where are the PS4 games? Throw us some ports, at least.
198  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mario outsold Knack on: December 03, 2013, 06:38:22 AM
If Knack was released on the Wii U, it would have been outsold by Mario  slywink
199  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Knack outsold Mario on: December 03, 2013, 06:36:38 AM
If Mario was released on the PS4, it would have outsold Knack slywink
200  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Playstation Plus - Now with lots more free games! on: December 02, 2013, 03:29:03 AM
I see people saying PS Plus is a great value because of all the free games it gives you, but how is online gaming on the service?
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