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41  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Snowden on: August 29, 2013, 12:02:57 AM

Quote from: hepcat on August 28, 2013, 11:02:04 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on August 28, 2013, 06:16:12 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 27, 2013, 09:58:09 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on August 27, 2013, 09:34:17 PM

During the Cold War however, we actually tried to live up to it - the GWoC (global war on communism) kind of demanded it.  We acknowledged that we weren't perfect, and tried to be an example.  Now we're more like Capitalism, YAY!  There is nothing we won't do for a dollar...

Vietnam, Korean War, Bay of Pigs, McCarthyism, HUAC, the arm's race, the spying (numerous and well documented)....

I fail to see how we were trying in any way to live up to a golden standard during the Cold War.  Heck, the feds, as ordered by Robert Kennedy, taped almost every single phone conversation of people like Dr. Martin Luther King because our government was afraid of what "the nation's most dangerous negro" could do to capitalism.  If anything, it was far worse back then.

Civil Rights movement, Gay rights movement, Women's rights movement, Indian reparations, Japanese internment reparations, Peace Corps.  I don't think there's any way in hell the Civil Rights movement happens without the Cold War and the need to show that our brand of freedom was better than communism, and that laid the groundwork for all the rest.

I think you need to read up a bit on your history.  Take for instance the NAACP attempting to get rid of segregation during WWII.  Though the Civil Rights movement existed well before that even.  But during the Cold War, African Americans weren't invited to march and protest.  Far from it.  They had to break the law to do it.  How is that a sign of American good will and an attempt to lead by example?  As I mentioned earlier, their own government was spying on prominent members of the Civil Rights movement to boot.

The Women's Rights movement began in the mid 1800's in the U.S..  They didn't get a boost from the Cold War.  Some strides may have been made during that time, but to say it was because of the Cold War is just not true.

The Gay Rights movement was not having a heyday during the Cold War in America.  I have no clue where you got that idea.  Homosexual baiting was a trusted tool of intimidation during the Cold War.  Wanna discredit a suspected dissident?  Accuse him of being gay.

No, my friend.  During the Cold War, the United States was accusing people of being commies left and right (or, if they REALLY wanted to smear them, they accused them of being cross dressing transvestites), making deals with shady governments in order to "stop the red menace", and generally doing what sovereign nations do when they feel threatened.  It was not a golden age of morality.  Almost everything you mention happened in spite of the Cold War, not because of it. 

...but I will give you the Peace Corps.  That was a fantastic bit of PR on Kennedy's part.   icon_wink

Actually, you are mistaken.  While there were a ton of Civil Rights abuses during the Cold War, I don't see any way that the Civil Rights Act passes without the need to look good to the Third World:

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Yet one aspect of the Civil Rights movement has always been neglected in the conventional history of the movement. This was its connection to the Cold War. For America to win the Cold War, Civil Rights was a necessity. Continuing domestic discrimination against non-white minorities would make it impossible to win over the newly-free Third World.

Politicians at the time understood this very well, and it wasnít as if they kept this fact secret. Presidents, such as Harry Truman, explicitly linked the Cold War to Americaís race relationships. They put it in their speeches. They put it in their political advertisements.

You could also try this one = The Effect of the Cold War on African-American Civil Rights: America and the World Audience, 1945-1968

As to Women's and Gay Rights, etc, there was a concerted push after the Civil Rights movement in both of those areas- the Equal Rights Amendment movement for women, as well as the Stonewall riots courage to fight back against oppression movements don't happen without the Civil Rights movement laying the groundwork.

42  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: how come we're not attacking syria? on: August 28, 2013, 08:37:49 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on August 28, 2013, 06:42:57 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on August 27, 2013, 07:08:45 PM


Oh, the Iranians might be suing us over that one.

Good luck with that.
43  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Snowden on: August 28, 2013, 06:16:12 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 27, 2013, 09:58:09 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on August 27, 2013, 09:34:17 PM

During the Cold War however, we actually tried to live up to it - the GWoC (global war on communism) kind of demanded it.  We acknowledged that we weren't perfect, and tried to be an example.  Now we're more like Capitalism, YAY!  There is nothing we won't do for a dollar...

Vietnam, Korean War, Bay of Pigs, McCarthyism, HUAC, the arm's race, the spying (numerous and well documented)....

I fail to see how we were trying in any way to live up to a golden standard during the Cold War.  Heck, the feds, as ordered by Robert Kennedy, taped almost every single phone conversation of people like Dr. Martin Luther King because our government was afraid of what "the nation's most dangerous negro" could do to capitalism.  If anything, it was far worse back then.

Civil Rights movement, Gay rights movement, Women's rights movement, Indian reparations, Japanese internment reparations, Peace Corps.  I don't think there's any way in hell the Civil Rights movement happens without the Cold War and the need to show that our brand of freedom was better than communism, and that laid the groundwork for all the rest.
44  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: how come we're not attacking syria? on: August 28, 2013, 06:12:01 PM

Quote from: Grifman on August 27, 2013, 11:20:27 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 27, 2013, 11:15:18 PM

I was confused by his post as well at first.  what he means is Bush got involved in those three countries, not that the Brotherhood is involved.

don't worry Pyper, I get you!!!

My bad, or maybe his for his confusing post! smile

The point wasn't so much the involvement, but the hypocrisy of being mad at Obama for supporting rebels against dictatorships while ignoring the evolution of Governments in the Cheney-Bush wars.  Taliban will still be around, and Iraq is more likely to be another Islamist Government (Hezbollah is currently part of the ruling coalition of Shia), etc. The situation in the Middle East has become much more unstable since 9/11, and our actions in the region are a huge part of that.
45  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: how come we're not attacking syria? on: August 28, 2013, 06:02:11 PM

Quote from: Rip on August 28, 2013, 12:46:29 AM

Ok, one more last thought on what I have been able to gather given current reports and my apparent uncommon knowledge.

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Some worldwide have expressed concern that intervening in Syria may provoke broader conflict in the Middle East or ensnare Western powers in another bloody conflict after years of warfare in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Cameron said that he understands those concerns, vowing that any action would have to be "proportionate, ... legal (and) would have to be specifically about deterring the use of chemical weapons."
Still, he said it's critically important that action be taken to show the international taboo against chemical weapons will not be tolerated.
"This is not about wars in the Middle East; this is not even about the Syrian conflict," he said. "It's about use of chemical weapons and making sure, as a world, we deter their use and we deter the appalling scenes we've all seen on our television screens.

Couldn't agree more, however I would pose a question to Mr Cameron or anyone else who wants me to support military action due to this attack.

If the proof of WHO was responsible for this release of chemical weapons is not disclosed to a level to convince any impartial party of such. Does it really deter or as I fear actually encourage the use of them. Just in a way that appears to point to the opponent of the offending party? Because I have little doubt that much of the world is littered with groups that are more than willing to use such things against their own if it furthers their agenda.

Would this constitute WHO?

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Last Wednesday, in the hours after a horrific chemical attack east of Damascus, an official at the Syrian Ministry of Defense exchanged panicked phone calls with a leader of a chemical weapons unit, demanding answers for a nerve agent strike that killed more than 1,000 people. Those conversations were overheard by U.S. intelligence services, The Cable has learned. And that is the major reason why American officials now say they're certain that the attacks were the work of the Bashar al-Assad regime -- and why the U.S. military is likely to attack that regime in a matter of days...

...However, U.S. spy services still have not acquired the evidence traditionally considered to be the gold standard in chemical weapons cases: soil, blood, and other environmental samples that test positive for reactions with nerve agent. That's the kind of proof that America and its allies processed from earlier, small-scale attacks that the White House described in equivocal tones, and declined to muster a military response to in retaliation. 

However, we're not just talking chemical weapons, we're talking Nerve agents, and AFAIK, that was always a much bigger no-no than mustard gas, etc... at least that's how I recall it growing up.
46  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Snowden on: August 27, 2013, 09:34:17 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on August 27, 2013, 05:43:55 PM

After reading about Operation Gladio, we resort to dirty tricks on a regular basis, even against allies.  There's an old chestnut that I heard that stated the only countries we don't spy on are Britain, Canada, and Australia, and I'm not even sure if that's true. 

We seek advantage wherever we can, because the Soviets were certainly doing it, and you know that the militant factions of whatever group pull no punches. 

The myth of American exceptionalism in terms of a moral high ground is just that, a myth.  I've said it before.  There's a line there somewhere as to what we should and shouldn't do, but I have no idea where it is.  And not knowing the full truth of what we're up against, I imagine that I never will.

During the Cold War however, we actually tried to live up to it - the GWoC (global war on communism) kind of demanded it.  We acknowledged that we weren't perfect, and tried to be an example.  Now we're more like Capitalism, YAY!  There is nothing we won't do for a dollar...
47  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: how come we're not attacking syria? on: August 27, 2013, 07:45:03 PM

Quote from: ATB on August 27, 2013, 07:11:44 PM

There is no evidence that Assad used chem weapons. There is suspected use of chem weapons on the part of the rebels.

There are an awful lot of people (who would likely be in a better position to know) who think you are wrong here.  You may wish to revise that to something along the lines of the evidence is not 100% incontrovertible (yet)....
48  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Chelsea (Bradley) Manning - when does gender assignment change you on: August 27, 2013, 07:41:53 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on August 27, 2013, 02:54:21 PM

Has silverjon made her way over to GT yet? This is a topic for her. I think you are supposed to respect the person's gender identity. It's their choice, not yours.

Yeah, it's a politeness/respect issue.  If the person's (the Journalist in this case) goal is to disrespect the person's chosen identity, that's what it is.  Think Bill Parcells calling Terry Glen 'she'.  Of course, people (and journalists) are under no mandate to be polite and respectful, but they will be judged as such by those who would rather see them be polite and respectful.  It's generally seen as being childish, but it can be effective.
49  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: how come we're not attacking syria? on: August 27, 2013, 07:06:04 PM

Quote from: msduncan on August 27, 2013, 05:54:14 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 27, 2013, 05:47:51 PM

Quote from: msduncan on August 27, 2013, 05:40:28 PM


Obama has been very consistent in helping radical Islamic terror groups gain power in the Middle East.

He's just continuing the Bush era policies.  I thought you'd be pleased.   icon_wink

Last time I checked, Bush didn't back the Muslim Brotherhood in three takeover bids in three separate countries.

Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.  Oh, and he didn't get Bin Laden (the justification for f*cking everything up)
50  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: how come we're not attacking syria? on: August 27, 2013, 07:04:42 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 27, 2013, 07:03:44 PM

We armed bin Laden at one point.

and Trained.
51  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 12 Monkeys remake for TV on: August 27, 2013, 07:04:11 PM
It was an ok movie.  Would I be crazy if I wanted a Monkees remake first?
52  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: how come we're not attacking syria? on: August 27, 2013, 12:24:51 AM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on August 23, 2013, 03:52:38 PM


Yeah, it wasn't the brightest idea to make that the red line, when in fact it wasn't.  On the other hand, why is it our job to intervene?  We have nothing to gain but hatred, as best I can tell.
53  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What music streaming service do you use? on: August 27, 2013, 12:09:28 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 26, 2013, 11:07:18 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on August 26, 2013, 10:49:50 PM

I went with Amazon Prime... $24.99/year, upload 250k songs, autorip any Amazon cd's you've bought.

This was me, too. 

I love the Aereo court decision that made these cloud services possible...
54  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What music streaming service do you use? on: August 26, 2013, 10:49:50 PM
I went with Amazon Prime... $24.99/year, upload 250k songs, autorip any Amazon cd's you've bought.
55  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: August 26, 2013, 08:21:57 PM

Quote from: th'FOOL on August 26, 2013, 01:06:50 AM

Quote from: Blackhawk on August 26, 2013, 12:50:36 AM


Full disclosure: You're going to want to copy paste that. We have a system here that auto-inserts our Amazon link tag on any appropriate out-bound link posted.

Thanks to both of you (as well as FP/Rip, and the GT community for bearing with the OO-tage).
56  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: August 26, 2013, 12:46:45 AM

Quote from: FishPants on August 26, 2013, 12:34:04 AM

Thanks gang, I would rather avoid having to deal with that monthly if we can avoid it.  Let's see where we end up, servers are coming up now on other subnets (and I'm constantly nmapping ours, and there's some minor progress over the hours).  I think it's going to be a day or two though before we see it online; but I am cautiously optimistic we will see it again.

Can you post an OO-Amazon link?  I don't have it bookmarked...
57  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: August 22, 2013, 10:37:37 PM

Quote from: Teggy on August 22, 2013, 09:00:48 PM

Alright, who broke it this time?

hepcat's dreams of Mario's pants, I'd wager...
58  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: August 01, 2013, 11:52:01 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 18, 2013, 11:49:56 PM

it's all part of a master plan to get TGB to return.

[edit] DAMMIT!

Yup.
59  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Are there... on: July 26, 2013, 08:52:50 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on July 26, 2013, 03:14:06 AM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 25, 2013, 08:18:54 PM

I'll leave this forum (R&P)  for good.  Quote masters, feel free to hold me to it.

Self-deportation...it works!  nod

I never had a problem with Eco myself, although as I said earlier the predictable dynamics became tiresome after too much repetition. I won't miss the drama but I will miss the dissenting voice. 

Self deprecation is better.
60  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Are there... on: July 24, 2013, 10:26:41 PM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 24, 2013, 08:45:27 PM

Of course it's not just Detroit, it's our whole freaking country facing this issue.  Detroit is just the beginning and until we elect officials that are willing to address these issue (of spending way beyond our taxation levels) honestly, we are screwed.

FTFY.  Tax Cuts do actually impact revenues.  No, really!
61  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Next gen purchase poll on: June 15, 2013, 10:15:46 PM

Quote from: msduncan on June 15, 2013, 01:31:21 PM



I really want to get excited about the Xbone.   I was ultra excited about the 360 when it launched.   I stood outside in 33 degree rain overnight at a Best Buy and came up 3 places short in line to get one.   I then spent the next month on a holy crusade to get one.   

I STUMBLED across a PS3 while looking for it, so I ended up with both consoles.   

I REALLY REALLY want to develop a reason to keep my preorder for the Xbone for this fall.   Hark has given me one reason because when I'm playing multiplayer on the 360 it's usually with him and his merry band of snipers.    However, I'm still waivering because Microsoft has given me plenty of reasons to get angry at what they are trying to feed me, and not enough reasons to think this system is anywhere close to what the 360 was when it launched.

I have to say that I am still sitting on both launch day preorders but I'm extraordinarily torn.

Maybe this perspective from an xBone engineer will help:

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The thing is we suck at telling the story. The whole point of the DRM switch from disc based to cloud based is to kill disc swapping, scratched discs, bringing discs to friends house, trade-ins for shit value with nothign going back to developers, and high game costs....

...Google TV + PS4 + Minority report level gestures, that combined with a sick second screen experience (which is really hot for TV, I know I know.. tv tv tv tv tvÖ but itís fucking sick when you have it). Games will be the same, there are more exclusives to MS then PS atm, and Kinect 2 makes Kinect 1 look like a childs toy...

...Current plan is basically youíre fucked after 24 hours. YeahÖ I know. Kind of sucks. I believe they will probably revist the time period and / or find a diff way to ďcall inĒ to ensure you havenít sold your license to gamestop or somethingÖ but there is no plan YET. Iím hoping the change it, but I donít work on that so I donít have much influence there /sigh...

...THe original intention was to get all the Multiplayer servers not requiring 3rd party costs (Like EA shutting down game servers to cut costs), as well as taking all the games that servers hosted by the clients (Halo, etc), and have all that compute done in the cloud allowing more CPU cycles for gameplay. That will really expand what developers can do. Anything that doesnít need per frame calculation and can handle 100ms delays can be shifted to the cloud. Thatís huge....

...SmartGlass + IE is going to be pretty freaking sweet. 1 finger cursor, 2 finger direct manip. Basically if you think of a laptop trackpad where your phone/ slate is the trackpad and the monitor is your TVÖ itís that. The tech is there, just needs to be applied. There is some really cool shit going on with Petra + controllers that pairs people with controllers. So if person with controller two trades controlers with controller 1, their profiles magically switch. Itís sick. What does this matter? Now if you lean left/right it knows which person is leaning, even if 4 people are all int he same room. Itís awesome...

...New service using Azure for cloud compute. Allows developers to not use clients for hosting multiplayer servers, or other tasks that do not require per frame calcuations. Itís pretty sweet.

It at least sounds better that way than the PR flak idiots.
62  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Next gen purchase poll on: June 15, 2013, 03:37:20 AM
I never pre-order.  It's a waste, especially for games.  Consoles... maybe not, but I don't need either when I have steam.
63  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Re: Amazon MP3 Deals (keep it updated!) on: June 14, 2013, 07:18:07 AM
The $2.99 blues collection caught my eye

Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk 2
64  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Re: Re: Just got a new monitor and it feels "wierd" on: May 05, 2013, 09:25:18 PM

Quote from: Suitably Ironic Moniker on May 05, 2013, 05:35:08 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on May 03, 2013, 08:28:25 PM

Quote from: Teggy on May 01, 2013, 06:58:29 PM

Remember when we were kids and our parents told us not to sit so close to the tv?

Older CRT technology did shot out more harmful radiation (in the literal sense, not the nuclear sense) due to the way they worked.  Flat panel tech is much different.

tapatalkin'

It was really only when they were new technology. By the 70s-80s era, that radiation was basically nil.

No, I'm talking about less eye strain light radiation.  There were definite, measured effects from staring at 90's era computer vet's apart from the tv radiation myth

tapatalkin'
65  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Re: Re: Just got a new monitor and it feels "wierd" on: May 03, 2013, 08:28:25 PM

Quote from: Teggy on May 01, 2013, 06:58:29 PM

Remember when we were kids and our parents told us not to sit so close to the tv?

Older CRT technology did shot out more harmful radiation (in the literal sense, not the nuclear sense) due to the way they worked.  Flat panel tech is much different.

tapatalkin'
66  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Re: Amazon MP3 Deals (keep it updated!) on: March 02, 2013, 10:06:15 AM
The 100 60's songs for $3.99 is a good deal...

tapatalkin'
67  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Are You Stepping Into the Next Gen? on: February 09, 2013, 10:42:16 PM
The biggest question for me is WHY?

I picked up the 360 to go with the HDTV, as well as since the PC had been somewhat forlorn before Steam completely re-energized it (IMHO).  I never picked up a PS3 or a Wii.  I've barely touched my 360 in the past 8 months, and I think I'm more likely to hook up a computer to my TV and go from there.

Ask me again in October, it's possible they could wow me, but for now, I haven't seen anything that would lead to me becoming an early adopter.  Maybe if I go with a new 4k tv or something, but for now I'm thinking that true value is on the PC side.  There's going to have to be something there that isn't being done well on the PC (and cheaper).  So far, I haven't seen it.
68  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: OO off line for a short time on: January 23, 2013, 05:35:59 AM

Quote from: Pyperkub on November 10, 2012, 06:29:22 AM

Here's the thread I was looking for.

tapatalkin'

And it is nigh impossible to find this damn thread when you're the last poster in it.  Down again...
69  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: io9's list of the best Sci-fi this year on: December 21, 2012, 07:41:09 AM
Thanks!

tapatalkin'
70  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Weekend Playlist -- 12/14/12 on: December 17, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
Guild Wars 2, WintersDay activities.
71  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 2012 College Bowl Pick-em on: December 15, 2012, 11:16:42 AM
The games start today - bumpity bump bump bump!
72  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 2012 College Bowl Pick-em on: December 13, 2012, 11:07:55 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on December 13, 2012, 05:13:39 PM

I just want to say that I wish it was possible for both Alabama and Notre Dame to lose.

It would have been interesting to see if the voters jumped Oregon/Kansas St/ND over Florida if ND had lost to USC.  I wonder if that scenario would have ended up with Northern Illinois still in the Orange... if they didn't, well I'm glad we don't have another SEC rematch, but the rest of the Bowls are pretty lame this year.
73  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 2012 College Bowl Pick-em on: December 12, 2012, 10:51:47 PM
BUMP - free copy of DOTA 2 for the winner slywink
74  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / 2012 College Bowl Pick-em on: December 10, 2012, 09:09:06 PM
Yeah, I'm a glutton for it... the 2012-2013 College bowl pick-em is up!  Password is octopus

Confidence points against the spread

Go BRUINS!
75  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: The Weekend Playlist -- 12/7/12 on: December 10, 2012, 06:38:37 AM
Dishonored and Guild Wars 2

tapatalkin'
76  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: 2012: GOTY/GOAT of the year? on: December 10, 2012, 06:36:04 AM
You can't be game of the year when you haven't even been out for a week.  Come back at the end of the month at least and tell us if far cry is still shiny!

Guild Wars 2 had me playing daily for almost two months. 

Sins of a Solar Empire : Rebellion got almost as much time, as did Diablo 3 and Skyrim at over 40 hours each.  Warlock also clocked in around 30, and I really want to revisit Elemental with Fallen Enchantress, and XCOM is still on the shelf..

I'm enjoying Dishonored, but I'm hesitant to nominate it yet.

Edge to GW 2 so far.

Regardless, 2012 has been a great year for gaming.

tapatalkin'
77  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Re: [PC/iOS/Android] Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 Enhanced Editions on: December 10, 2012, 06:22:26 AM

Quote from: kronovan on December 09, 2012, 07:27:16 PM

Does anyone know what Android OS this will require? My aging Android device only has a single CPU running OS 2.3.6. Of course the resources on it are beyond what the original PC games required, but this being an update has me wondering?

I think they did mention that it was tablet only, so it may require honeycomb at least

tapatalkin'
78  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Re: Best Android games for the big screen on: November 19, 2012, 09:00:34 PM
Machinarium is working great on my Transformer.

I picked up world of goo as well, but haven't tried it.

Having at least one HD Angry Birds is worth it.

Cthulhu Wastelands has been really frustrating with regards to selecting units.
79  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Game Collector or Game Churner? on: November 19, 2012, 08:56:08 PM
Collector (of dust).  I don't have the time to finish so many of them, but I like to think I will.  Plus, I'm not much of one for the extra effort to return things...  I do keep an eye out for deals a lot (and have lately gone overboard on Steam sales as I've gotten back into PC Gaming.
80  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Amazon MP3 Deals (keep it updated!) on: November 15, 2012, 10:17:28 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on November 13, 2012, 05:31:22 PM

11-13

also, $5 this week only:




Was hoping for this.  Thanks for finding the Explicit version!
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