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1441  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: On second thought (a summary of past games that deserve to be mentioned agai on: March 05, 2007, 08:59:32 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on March 05, 2007, 08:50:51 PM

Not to be redundant  (ok - I am mostly redundant by default, but anyway...)

Here are the two I go back to more than any, but they require the first xbox  (I think):

1. Crimson Skies
2. Gladius

Crimson Skies is BC (Backwards Compatible) on the 360.  dunno about Gladius.
1442  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I am now officially done with Gamestop on: March 02, 2007, 03:34:05 AM

Quote from: Chaz on March 02, 2007, 12:51:40 AM

If you really want to fry their shorts, make sure you pay the $2 extra for the new copy of the game.  It drives them insane.

What is this?
1443  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: LF: Vampire Redemption CE on: February 20, 2007, 10:04:02 PM

Quote from: Jimmy the Fish on February 20, 2007, 09:43:30 PM

What was in the CE edition?

Book of Nod was one bonus, I think there was a figurine as well...
1444  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Bullet Witch on: February 20, 2007, 07:41:44 PM

Quote from: ATB on February 20, 2007, 05:56:59 PM

If I recall, Bloodrayne on WB1 didn't rate well, but I played it and had a great time with it.  Sounds like this game may be similar as it appears to be much like it from the Gamespot gameplay footage.

It's 49.99 next week so I might pick it up.  But then again, 30.00 Tomb Raider legend looks kinda good too.

Hmm.  Or maybe I'll just play through God of War again.

Er - forgot to post - Tomb Raider Legend is an excellent game.
1445  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New direction for Live? on: February 20, 2007, 07:26:17 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on February 20, 2007, 06:29:06 PM

Since downloading games through XBox Live sounds to be pretty successful, does anyone thing they will drop the subscription fee?  The news blurb on the front page (about Live for Vista being free) made me wonder how they would monetize Live, but it appears they already are, with the game downloads.

Downloading games and patches (er, updates  icon_wink) is already free with the Silver subscription everyone gets.  Gold is only necessary for multiplayer.
1446  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Worst song lyrics of all time? on: February 20, 2007, 04:53:39 AM

Quote from: GatorFavre on February 20, 2007, 02:38:11 AM

Quote from: jblank on February 20, 2007, 12:49:47 AM

I got this one locked up:

Artist: Manfred Mann's Earth Band Lyrics
Song: Blinded By the Light Lyrics

Blinded by the light,
revved up like a deuce,
another runner in the night
Incomprehensible? Yes. Damn fine song? Absolutely.
Wasnt that written by Bruce Springsteen?

Yes. Greetings from Asbury Park.
1447  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / More fun with Sony Marketing on: January 26, 2007, 12:32:48 AM
Gran Turismo HD looks like Project Gotham Racing 3, because the ads Sony was hosting used PGR 3 images!

From ARS
1448  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Games Finished in 2007 - Console & PC on: January 24, 2007, 07:16:58 PM

Gears of War (360) - still playing MP
Tomb Raider Legend (360)
Oblivion [360]
Catan  [360] - still playing periodically, but I've put enough time in to say I've finished it
Psychonauts [360 - BC]

Actively Playing

F.E.A.R. [360]
Guitar Hero II [360] - not sure what finished will be on this
Tiger Woods 2007 [360]
Harry Potter- Order of the Phoenix [360]

Shelved 2007 (on hold for over a month)

Gears of War [360]

Updated August 07
1449  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Mass Effect inches closer to launch on: January 23, 2007, 11:51:49 PM

Quote from: Hetz on January 23, 2007, 10:18:08 PM

Quote from: Turtle on January 23, 2007, 10:07:45 PM

Could be plenty real.  Mass Effect looks very far along, and a studio can do a lot in 4 months.  However, it's likely it'll be pushed to november considering how big the game is.

Yeah, there is no way they will release this in May. This has November game written all over it....which sucks cause it looks awesome and I want it now!  icon_biggrin

Nah, it'll be before November, there is no way they want to go head-to-head with halo 3.
1450  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Blu-Ray, we have a problem on: January 13, 2007, 07:16:21 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on January 12, 2007, 12:07:39 AM

So, apparently, Sony is refusing to allow porn to be distributed on Blu-Ray.

Oops.  If they stick to it, this will be a major blow to Blu-Ray, moreso than any of the mainstream studios refusing to support one side or the other.

Anyone else find it interesting that this thread was started by pr0ner ?
1451  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS2] Guitar Hero : 80's Edition on: January 13, 2007, 10:30:54 AM
You know its coming with a new controller, right?

Spoiler for Hiden:
It's a synthesizer!!  icon_twisted
1452  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: The Return of PeteRock: Friday 10 PM in GoW!? on: January 05, 2007, 11:33:38 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on January 04, 2007, 11:51:32 PM

My wife received an Xbox Live membership for Christmas and had every intention of participating Friday night, but she has come down with something awful and has become a walking corpse.  I just don't have the heart to put a bullet in her head to end my.....I mean her misery.  She has a doctor's appointment tomorrow and has more or less been sleeping whenever she's not at work (and sometimes while at work), so odds are it'll just be me Friday night and my wife's inaugural appearance will have to be postponed for another event.  I only hope that I, too, don't acquire the living dead disease for fear of developing a reputation for being an inevitable no-show and having an uncontrollable urge to repeat "braaaaains" into my mic.  I've also been wearing a helmet to bed to protect my cranial innards. 

But, with her being sick and only wanting to go to bed immediately following dinner, I will have no problem making this week's Gears of War extravaganza, barring postmortal reanimation.

I've already started carving "S-e-n-s-u-o-u-s-L-e-t-t-u-c-e" into my chainsaw in preparation.  Plus, my chainsaw will make access to everyone's brains a little easier.   

If she inhabits the body of a locust, you might not feel as guilty...

1453  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Decline of the PS3 Gray Market on: January 04, 2007, 04:10:02 AM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on January 04, 2007, 02:51:50 AM

Quote from: denoginizer on January 04, 2007, 01:29:18 AM

Though I have no evidence to back this up.  I get the feeling that Sony's margin (or lack there of) is better on the 60gig version.  I certainly saw alot more 60gigs on the shelves at various retailers during my travels yesterday.  There must be some reason for that.

Oh, I don't think there is any doubt of that and all of the analysts predictions on cost of hardware back that up.  And if the 60 Gig version sells well that's fine.  But my gut feeling based on the buzz as well as the reports of PS3 availability in stores (just from personal experience every single store I've been in during the last week that sells consoles now has PS3s in stock) is that PS3 sales are going to tank starting in January.  If the PS3 lags behind where the 360 was during the comparable month last year then I think Sony has a problem on their hand and price is certainly a big factor.  While they may lose more money, pushing the $500 SKU might spur some additional sales and shore up the foundation a bit. 

I think $600 is way too much too ask during first quarter when they coming out of a holiday season that was all abuzz about the Wii and not PS3. 

Getting some exclusive games that look demonstrably better than the 360 would really help (if possible) .  They need a console seller or three, possibly desperately.  The fact that much of the launch lineup consists of meh games and 360 ports is really not helping at all.
1454  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Research & Markets: PS3 Expected To Win Console War on: January 04, 2007, 04:03:44 AM

Quote from: Tebunker on January 04, 2007, 03:20:01 AM

Quote from: Dimmona on January 04, 2007, 12:15:00 AM

Quote from: JCC on January 03, 2007, 11:09:45 PM

I think Sony doesn't even care about the console war. I think they care only about the PS3 winning them the HD DVD format war, which they are losing hard now despite having much better studio support.

For what its worth, if I walk into any Circuit City or Best Buy in San Diego they have a large display of Blu-Ray movies, while they generally have at best only a handful of HD-DVD titles (some stores don't carry any).  Personally, the fact that HD-DVD movies are for the most part listing for the same price as normal DVDs (~$20) compared to the $35 being charged for Blu-Ray disks is a big factor for me right now...

From discussions with people I know that are higher up in Circuit City corporate, one nice thing about living in the same town as their corporate HQ(wish they could've gotten me a job), they effectively are partnered with Sony. Hence the larger Blu-Ray support, they were they main PS3 launch chain, while having a very weak Wii offering at launch. I don't know how well this has panned out for CC, but since they have a history of making bad decisions I don't expect them to make too many gains from this partnering.

They (Circuit City) put their weight hard behind DivX too - that didn't turn out too well...
1455  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Research & Markets: PS3 Expected To Win Console War on: January 04, 2007, 04:00:33 AM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on January 04, 2007, 01:14:46 AM

Quote from: Pyperkub on January 04, 2007, 12:34:43 AM

The article goes on to say that the Poseidon Adventure remake which crashed and burned at the box office, has become profitable, in large part due to HD downloads on xBox Live.

Not quite.  The only mention I saw of Poseidon was that it's doing well on the download service.  Nothing about profitability.  It's pretty much impossible- Assuming that there are four million 360s in the US homes, if every single person downloaded the movie (not gonna happen), at six bucks a pop, that's only $24 million added to Poseidon's bottom line, ignoring MS's cut of those fees.  That's not even close to enough money to make up for how much Poseidon is in the red.  And realisticallly you're probably looking at more like 30% of 360 users downloading movies so it's really well under $10 million in additional revenue. 

Yeah, you're right, I had read it into the first article I saw, and had had to google it into this article. Editing. nod
1456  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Research & Markets: PS3 Expected To Win Console War on: January 04, 2007, 12:34:43 AM

Quote from: JCC on January 03, 2007, 11:09:45 PM

I think Sony doesn't even care about the console war. I think they care only about the PS3 winning them the HD DVD format war, which they are losing hard now despite having much better studio support.

I don't know if they are losing hard, but in the end MS may have trumped them with HD-DVD - not that HD-DVD will win, but that xBox Live HD downloads and Cable/Satellite HD Video on Demand will win, in part due to confusion over which format to own.

From Variety:

In a topsy-turvy year for the digital download biz, a videogame service in just a few million homes is ending 2006 with more momentum than the world's biggest e-tailer.

The relative success of video downloads on Microsoft's Xbox Live and disappointment of's Unbox point to two factors that differentiate Xbox from Amazon and its many other competitors -- consumers who download a movie want a simple way to watch it on their TV, and those with high-def TVs want high-def content....

...The biggest surprise of the year, however, has been Microsoft offering movie rentals and TV downloads to the Xbox 360 via its Xbox Live Internet service.

Though there are fewer than 3.5 million 360s in the U.S. by last count, movies available from Warner and Paramount, as well as content from CBS and MTV on the TV side, are doing at least as well and, in some cases, better than on competing Web sites, which are available to anyone with a PC and high-speed Internet connection.

Xbox 360 owners are a tech-savvy and media-hungry bunch, of course, but the relatively strong start for video downloads on the console show that there is a market when watching a download is as easy as pushing a few buttons.

HD has proved particularly popular with Xbox 360 owners, many of whom already use the console to play vidgames in high-def.

For Warner, the only studio offering HD versions of its movies, consumers are consistently downloading more copies of a pic in high-def than in standard def when both are offered, even though it takes several extra hours to get the HD version.

The article goes on to say that the Poseidon Adventure remake which crashed and burned at the box office, has become is getting closer to profitable, in large part due to HD downloads on xBox Live.
1457  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GamingTrend Best of 360 - Prelim on: December 24, 2006, 01:50:53 AM
 Gears of War
 Viva Piņata
 NCAA 2007 Football
1458  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Retail demand for PS3 dropping below supply level? on: December 20, 2006, 08:04:46 PM

Quote from: The Grue on December 16, 2006, 10:42:57 PM

Ha.  For me, it really is all about the fun.  I could have a PS3 if I wanted one, but with only 1 game out for it, I passed.

Yeah, I think this is the main problem with the PS3 - there's isn't really a killer app for it yet.  Resistance seems like the game to get, but as best I can tell, it's just another shooter.  I've heard some positives about motorstorm, but that's about it.  Most everything else is either a port or is getting meh in terms of publicity, AFAIK.  The biggest (current) killer app for the PS3 that I can see is the BR player, and most people aren't going to buy it for that.

Whereas with the Wii - the Wii itself (+ Wii Sports) is the killer app and you can get Zelda.  With the 360, Gears is doing the job, but there are a number of good games out there (when it came out the launch lineup buzz wasn't that great, but it was the first truly HD console, and that was fairly revolutionary, and the Arcade really helped it along.

1459  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I may be a knuckle-dragging Eagles fan... on: December 18, 2006, 07:45:51 PM

Quote from: gellar on December 18, 2006, 06:30:47 PM

You're all just jealous because none of you have Alex Smith as your QB.


nah, they're jealous that they aren't in the NFC West :-).
1460  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 360 Backwards Compatibility update coming soon (?) on: December 14, 2006, 01:21:57 AM

Quote from: gellar on December 13, 2006, 07:40:04 PM

Now I need to go find another copy of Buffy.  That was a fun damn game.


Another sparkly thingy for my collection!
1461  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 360 Backwards Compatibility update coming soon (?) on: December 13, 2006, 07:31:39 PM

Quote from: whiteboyskim on December 13, 2006, 07:22:09 PM

The first Buffy game kicked ass up until the end. I'm glad Psychonauts is coming to BC so I wouldn't have to buy it again when I eventually upgrade to a 360.

Yup - these 2 will get some playtime for me, though I might need to buy a memory card to move my saves...
1462  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 -- Keep it or sell it? on: December 08, 2006, 08:35:58 PM

Quote from: gellar on December 08, 2006, 08:33:36 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on December 08, 2006, 08:31:28 PM

Quote from: msduncan on December 08, 2006, 08:07:37 PM

Did anyone ever answer my question about whether I can hook up either the PS3 or the 360 to one of the big dell monitors or not via DVI connection?

You'll need an HDMI-DVI cable for the PS3 (or the less efficient adapter), but other than that, no problem.  For the 360, you'll need to use the VGA connection

Won't the PS3 freak out if it can't form the 'relationship' with the TV?  Does that still work through DVI?


As long as the cable is of decent quality, the CP handshake should be seamless.  *Really* cheap knockoffs *may* have problems, as well as older spec DVI monitors, but I don't recall seeing anything about that.
1463  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 -- Keep it or sell it? on: December 08, 2006, 08:31:28 PM

Quote from: msduncan on December 08, 2006, 08:07:37 PM

Did anyone ever answer my question about whether I can hook up either the PS3 or the 360 to one of the big dell monitors or not via DVI connection?

You'll need an HDMI-DVI cable for the PS3 (or the less efficient adapter), but other than that, no problem.  For the 360, you'll need to use the VGA connection.

PS. I vote sell - as stated on the 'other' forum, I think that there will be some technical glitches with the initial PS3's, like it has been shown that there were for the initial 360's.  dante makes a great point though.
1464  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Fantasy Football season on the brink, need advice please on: December 06, 2006, 08:29:26 PM
Jones and Barber.  Don't over-think your matchups, and go with your best players.  Plus the Rams are horrid against the run.
1465  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gears of War/Multiplayer N00bz Look Here on: December 01, 2006, 02:05:29 AM
I'd love to join in, but Saturday we'll be in LA watching UCLA v USC.  Tonight is packing night, so a possibility, though slim.

gamertag = Pyperkub
1466  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Bill Harris, WE GET IT - you hate Sony (Dubious Quality) on: November 28, 2006, 09:50:56 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on November 28, 2006, 12:53:55 AM

You hate Sony!

Sony has done many things that would merit hate.  Installing rootkits on people's computers is only one.

With regards to the PS3 - Sony has shown a slight tendency (/sarcasm) towards prevarication when talking about it. Which can tend to put people off.
1467  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Review Section Request 2 on: November 27, 2006, 04:25:46 AM
Can we get filters for Wii, PS3 and 360 reviews too?

1468  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Well, its 11/22, what new video content is on XBL Marketplace? on: November 22, 2006, 09:04:15 PM

Quote from: jblank on November 22, 2006, 06:28:25 PM

Yeah they do... but I'm still intrigued by the possibility of being able to get it (relatively) instantly.


See, that is the draw for me also, that and the fact I can watch them in 720p. Like anyone, I wish the cost was a bit less, but I just rented a movie yesterday for $4.00, then had take it back, so really, this isn't THAT much more if you factor in gas, time, etc.

Though you don't have to buy an HD-DVD/BluRay player.  Hopefully selections get better than Comcast on Demand (though they are getting better, though the HD movies are in 3 or 4 different places...
1469  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Well, its 11/22, what new video content is on XBL Marketplace? on: November 22, 2006, 09:02:45 PM

Quote from: gellar on November 22, 2006, 06:34:35 PM

If they could somehow do a subscription model and had most new releases, I'd be ALL OVER it.


Now that's an idea... maybe a freebie/month for live gold members...
1470  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Viva Pinata? on: November 16, 2006, 07:43:13 PM
We need a tips thread - I can't even find out how to name my Pinata's again.  I know the wiki is there, but I'm hesitant to use it, as I kind of want to explore and learn on my own, but I can't help but bust up laughing at some of the posts.  This game just brings a smile to my face.
1471  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Official what are you buying at launch thread (PS3 & Wii) on: November 16, 2006, 07:19:57 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on November 16, 2006, 06:46:02 PM

I think I'll be getting Rainbow Six Vegas on Monday.

I jumped the gun - Gears of War and Viva Pinata!
1472  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: They don't like DVRs..... on: November 15, 2006, 12:02:10 AM
did Studio 60 also go over?  I have both recorded for future viewing, so I know that we'll get Heroes, but I'm wondering if Studio 60 will get the short shrift spillover...
1473  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Need advice on which console system to buy on: November 05, 2006, 06:13:13 PM
You could get an HDMI - DVI cable for the PS3, not sure about audio output tho.
1474  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Horrible, HORRIBLE battery life in new laptop on: November 04, 2006, 05:25:50 AM
If you have an onboard camera or a USB device connected, this article may have some clues and a potential registry fix..

AnandTech article on USB 2.0 and Battery life (the article is Intel only, but in theory other processors may see the same problem, at least based on my reading, if they use a similar power stepping mechanism)
1475  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Want a New Pocket PC? Dell is on Sale! on: October 25, 2006, 07:20:05 PM
Bear in mind that smartphones are eating into the PDA market, and Dell is getting out of the Axim market (hence the price drop).

jkontherun article

The Windows Mobile Pocket PCs available today look for the most part like your Dell of yesteryear.  Speaking of Dell, since they have killed off the Axim line there are no really cheap Pocket PCs likely to come along that are cheaper than you paid for your Dell.  Usually hardware gets cheaper over time but you are correct in your observation that apparently that's not true for Pocket PCs.

The other factor at play here is the sales numbers that show Phone Editions and Smartphones are passing the traditional PDA so OEMs are shifting in that direction.  These devices with integrated radios, often 3G, are more expensive to produce so the only way to get cheap hardware is to sign up for a data plan and get the Phone Edition subsidized.  Those that have no need for wireless connectivity are getting left in the dust.
1476  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Horrible, HORRIBLE battery life in new laptop on: October 19, 2006, 01:46:56 AM

Quote from: jblank on October 18, 2006, 07:10:11 PM

Quote from: Thin_J on October 18, 2006, 04:37:49 PM

Do you use any USB devices with it?

I seem to remember an odd bug related to a certain chipset and USB equipment draining laptop batteries in half the time.

That said.. what kind of videocard is in it? Is it the usual laptop onboard or is it a discrete solution? My E1705 with a 7900GS in it maxes out around 90 minutes even with all the power saving options turned on.
Its got the ATI Radeon Xpress 200M chipset and no, outside of occasionally using my wireless mouse, nothing USB is plugged up to it.

Wireless will effect your battery life too, whether wifi or bluetooth.  My tablet has a handy dandy button to disable/enable the wireless devices when not in use.  I can't say whether wireless activity would account for the short life.

Additionally, Centrino's (like the Dell) tend to be better on Battery life - here's a link to an older comparison - click the performance test results link for a popup with the results.  Other tests may vary, as it does appear as if your battery life is still low compared to that link...

Good luck!
1477  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: More EA Hijinks (Battlefield 2142 related) on: October 16, 2006, 07:31:22 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on October 16, 2006, 07:02:34 PM

Quote from: warning on October 16, 2006, 06:49:00 PM

Why reward a company financially for bad behavior?  It's not like there aren't any other games out there to play.
See, at this point, EA's business practices are like Peak Oil.  As much as we wring our hands and sob and oh so passionately demand on internet forums that we switch to ethanol engines, or not buy EA games, the fact of the matter is, EA, like fossil fuel usage, is completely unstoppable at this point.  A few hardcore gamers ignoring an EA release does nothing to their profitability.

Instead, it's better if we just buy the damn game if it's fun, just like buying the damn fossil fuel if we need to drive somewhere.  In both these situations, we are actually affecting positive change because we're doing our part to force both moments to a crisis -- oil depletion will finally light a fire under our asses to get some alternate fuel going, (or it'll just kill us all but oh well), and EA will continue doing shadier and shadier little tricks until someone sues their ass and they shape up (or they just go bankrupt but oh well).

No, that wasn't supposed to make any sense.

Unfortunately, Sony was able to brush their foul-up under the carpet with too much ease. EA's BS is here to stay.
1478  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: One Game At a Time: My Xbox 360 Purchasing Rule with Contest on: October 06, 2006, 04:25:19 AM

Quote from: The Grue on October 06, 2006, 02:35:20 AM

I think he might be able to pull it off with the 360.  Games come out fairly spread out.  Still, I'm posting just in case, because I can't pass up the chance for a free game.

Go look at the coming releases, esp for November- the 360 library is about to grow geometrically. 

 I'm wondering what the sports game/ driving game completion state will be.

And I can't figure out whether Oblivion would be a good purchase or not.
1479  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Review Scores impact sales? Not really on: September 21, 2006, 02:30:15 AM
Studies like this are much more valuable if their methodology is examined rather than just their conclusions.

Example - I would expect bad reviews to more severely impact something like Daikatana than Super Mario X, because it is far more likely that the shopper for Daikatana is buying it for him/herself, rather than for their kids, and since 40% of all gaming software is sold at Christmas time, this makes a big deal and will skew any study that doesn't account for it.
1480  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 360 camera on: September 18, 2006, 10:49:47 PM

Quote from: jblank on September 18, 2006, 10:45:32 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on September 18, 2006, 10:27:23 PM

Quote from: jblank on September 18, 2006, 10:20:32 PM

I think its silly, unnecessary, and only going to bring out the worst in the prick teen crowd on XBL (dick bombs, etc). I think its a horrible idea and I won't be buying one.

The thing about it is that after awhile the jackass crowd will have gotten themselves dinged via account feedback and it, in theory, will go away after awhile.  I'm holding off for now, but I fully expect to see camera-specific account feedback options.

Not sure if I see your point about not having one helping avoid the idiots -- in UNO,  it'll be their gamerpic anyhow.

Just be anal about feedback and muting obnoxions.  (heh, heh - he said anal - heh, heh).

No, no, no, I am making 2 seperate points. 1 is that it will be abused, 2 that its a horrible idea and I won't be buying it.

Maybe its cuz I am older, but I don't feel the need to share my face with the rest of the XBL community.

Oh, I fully agree on this point, though if the integration into games is good, it might be worthwhile.  I can also see the videophone usefullness - I already tend to talk more over XBL with my cousins in PA than I do over the phone.
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