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16601  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / GTOfficial x360 Live Gamertag List on: November 20, 2005, 07:37:48 PM
mytocles isn't taken. smile

I'm thinking you might want to go with MYTO GT or something like what Graham did (initials for his location)... otherwise Mytocles isn't a far step from being called MY TESS TOK KULLs.  :twisted:
16602  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HDTV on: November 20, 2005, 07:21:04 PM
that isn't normal; 16:9 should fill the screen. If you have a 16:10 display that may be the reason... (I suppose they should actually say 8:5 but that would mess up the avg consumer more.)

Note that some movies *will* still give you black bars, as the ratio is even higher.. (2.35:1 movies, for instance). Your set can stretch vertically to use the space, or you can live with it.
16603  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / My thoughts on all the XB360 games that I have played on: November 20, 2005, 06:04:37 PM
Quote from: "Calvin"
Hetz, fantastic impressions. You have turned me from probably not interested any more to get a 360 and damn being able to afford dinner because you need these games smile

Thanks man!

Calvin has yet again been the victim of the Forum Effect[/b]. Our hearts and thoughts go out to his family, who is surely mourning his passing into... the consumer-whore zone.

Welcome! biggrin
16604  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Are RSS feeds ever coming? on: November 20, 2005, 05:59:46 PM
Must have been a good crayon. slywink
16605  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Sunday Skin - 11/20 on: November 20, 2005, 05:52:01 PM
where's that hot chick with the bag of chips? slywink
16606  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Old classics... Where to get besides EBAY? on: November 20, 2005, 05:48:15 PM
Ever since EOB3 for PC, I've not been a big fan of SSI. I miss Westwood Studios...  :cry:
16607  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / My thoughts on all the XB360 games that I have played on: November 20, 2005, 05:45:04 PM
I'd have to agree. I think there isn't one game that's drawing me in; except maybe the new Live service.

I'd rather have a series of great games than one MUST-HAVE game in the launch ... Halo1 was the Must have for me, and for a while it was great, but the rest of the titles lacked.... punch?
16608  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HDTV on: November 20, 2005, 05:20:05 PM
I suppose if the set itself compresses the dots on the Y axis you could get the image you're referring to, however I'd like to know what model TV you have. I've yet to see one (although I'll be the first to admit I've not looked for one).

Since most of my desired viewing is HD it wouldn't impact my own purchasing agenda;  I watch DVDs, some HD TV shows, HD gaming and a little bit of standard TV. My screen-watching aspect is primarily 16:9 and 16:10 (PC)

Update:  found a Toshiba 32" TV that does it. I stand corrected. Apparently there are the two modes, one where the rest of the screen is painted black (thusly it IS likely firing 1440 lines of resolution as black ain't free), and grey bars (which is the more desired method to avoid potential burn-in).
16609  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / DMX goes to pound me in the ass prison on: November 20, 2005, 03:56:34 PM
16610  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / So a possum moved in upstairs tonight... on: November 20, 2005, 03:49:44 PM

Now there is a smell you've got to use fire to clean ...  :shock:
16611  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Halo / Halo2 / Crimson Skies HRTR on X360? on: November 20, 2005, 03:48:38 PM
Hetz, how are they?

I'm actually looking forward to replaying these titles on high def... Don't ask me why, but it's been so long. It's too bad they couldn't have added a co-op live for them, that would be the cats ass. smile I had so much fun with them in co-op.  :cry:
16612  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / XBox 360 - - IN STOCK on: November 20, 2005, 03:45:08 PM
I'm itchin' for tuesday... biggrin
16613  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HDTV on: November 20, 2005, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: "Kevin Grey"
I'm now convinced that you are merely regurgitating google quotes with no knowledge of what they mean.

And that comment was intended to do what?  :? Help the discussion? Answer a question?

I believe I stated the word "properly". :idea: Be as convinced as you want, I actually went to the FCC site directly so we could get it straight from the horses mouth. Note how I didn't quote Wikipedia or any other "fyi" site.

Look, if you don't letterbox on a 4:3 set, mini-me becomes Larry Bird. Anamorphic Widescreen recording is based on resolution on the actual film used (to maximize the space) and then transferring the image from film to media, DVD being the most common use (as not all VHS titles got the "widescreen" treatment). Or at least, that is how I understand it. I'm not above admitting where I'm wrong, KG. It's bound to happen.

We are talking aspect, aren't we? I'm well aware of the fact that TVs can stretch/shrink the image to fit the display, the problem is that you're not going to find a 4:3 set that is going to display the image properly and at a truly "high definition" in the proper aspect (unless the native resolution of your television is at 1920x1440). On top of which you'd need to find a 4:3 set that does component / HDMI / DVI). I had a Sony VVega 34" back in 2000 that did it, but the picture was garbage. It accepts the signal, but then down-converts it to it's own native resolution (480p). You are sacrificing image quality to be able to watch reruns of Seinfeld on the "classic" 4:3 set.

It doesn't matter if you are looking at a sharp picture through a muddy display, you are limited by the maximum res your image is being put through. End of story.

FYI: I have an HDTV for my set, so most primetime TV comes in HD just fine. Widescreen and all. My next set will have a built-in HDTV tuner, so I'm holding off for a few years. I had a 51" Sony RPTV, as well as a 51" Hitachi (Sony was exchanged due to the green flicker flaw). The ex wanted the 51"; I took the 30" Sony CRT HDTV. Also, I use my 2405FPW for HD signal once in a while.
16614  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / GTOfficial x360 Live Gamertag List on: November 20, 2005, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: "Graham"
Green Bay, where I live.  Graham was already taken, so had to figure out something else.

Cool.. I got into the Live Beta in August of 2002 (IIRC) so it was easy enough to get "Purge" biggrin I still have the T-shirt but it's a little worse for wear.
16615  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Pick Devil's Game (360 Launch Edition) on: November 20, 2005, 03:08:34 PM
better than aShit or StarShitr slywink
16616  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / My thoughts on all the XB360 games that I have played on: November 20, 2005, 03:06:59 PM
Thanks for that Hetz... only 2 days to go....
16617  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HDTV on: November 20, 2005, 02:20:52 PM
Quote from: "Kevin Grey"
Good thing then that resolution wasn't a factor since we were talking about HDTV all along isn't it?  Given that SD TVs were never the issue here, then SIZE certainly is a consideration and my point was specifically on how a 32" 4:3 HDTV will provide the same SIZE 16:9 picture as a 30" 16:9 HDTV while providing a substantial increase in SD 4:3 content.

I could write HDTV on a piece of white toast and it doesn't constitute it being HD(as clearly a piece of toast is way closer to 4:3 aspect slywink. The thing is the aspect ratio is also a constant, not a variable. Let's check what the FCC has to say about 4:3 HDTV :

4:3 isn't High Definition compliant.
HDTV is a type of DTV service. HDTV provides high resolution programming in a widescreen format.

Here's the FCC's consumer facts page...

Standard Definition TV (SDTV) - SDTV is the basic level of quality display and resolution for both analog and digital. Transmission of SDTV may be in either the traditional (4:3) or widescreen (16:9) format.

Enhanced Definition TV (EDTV) - EDTV is a step up from Analog Television. EDTV comes in 480p widescreen (16:9) or traditional (4:3) format and provides better picture quality than SDTV, but not as high as HDTV.

High Definition TV (HDTV) - HDTV in widescreen format (16:9) provides the highest resolution and picture quality of all digital broadcast formats. Combined with digitally enhanced sound technology, HDTV sets new standards for sound and picture quality in television. (Note: HDTV and digital TV are not the same thing -- HDTV is one format of digital TV.)

You'll note there is no 4:3 HDTV. That's the way it is. When talking HDTV there currently IS only one apect ratio (16:9). Anything else is does not fall within HDTV compliance. In all seriousness a 4:3 HDTV set would need an even HIGHER Resolution to properly show widescreen 1080i /720p signal and letterbox the unused space to meet the screen shape required.

some quick math :

1920 vertical lines (required to display the full width of an HD signal) which would mean you'd have a 4:3 set that does (¹) 1920x1440, significantly higher resolution than 1920x1080. You would then waste (²) 691200 pixels or (³) 1920x360 worth of that HDTV 4:3 set.

¹ - (1920/4)*3=1440 (Y axis)
² - (1920x1440)-(1920*1080)=691200 (pixels used in letterbox)
³ - (691200/1920)=360 (Y axis lines wasted)

To answer the question
Quote from: "DarkEl"
I assume it's in my best interest to get a widescreen format picture[when buying an HDTV]. Is that correct?

There is no other way to get a HDTV. biggrin Clearly he's done that, so this point is now moot.
16618  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / If you were a Simpson Character.... on: November 20, 2005, 01:56:36 PM

Hank Scorpio: Don't call me that word. I don't like things that elevate me above the other people. I'm just like you. Oh sure, I come in later in the day, I get paid a lot more, and I take longer vacations, but I don't like the word "boss".
Hank Scorpio: Homer, on your way out, if you want to kill somebody, it would help me a lot.

For teh Win!
16619  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / If you were a Simpson Character.... on: November 20, 2005, 01:45:50 PM
Quote from: "Temjin"

The House always wins.

Milhouse : "It's Milhouse"
Homer : "Yeah, and your dad is No-House"
16620  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / So a possum moved in upstairs tonight... on: November 20, 2005, 01:43:01 PM
Dude... get up there, and if you see it . . . .

Spoiler for Hiden:
... Play Dead.  


I'm sorry; I couldn't resist!!
16621  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Spain worshipping smutpunks on: November 20, 2005, 01:40:26 PM
You're a spain worshipper??? I can't be part of this conversation... I'm from the Tapioca For Lord gang.... the Spain Worshippers is our bitter rival.
16622  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / XBOX360 &TV? on: November 20, 2005, 06:29:19 AM
Check out this thread for some suggestions... the Sony 30" is pretty awesome. smile
16623  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PC Gaming has ruined my Xbox 360 fever. on: November 20, 2005, 06:22:32 AM
Quote from: "Scott"
I'm well aware.  Hetz was running his PC games at a higher then 720p resolution (1650x1080), equivalent to 1080p.  He was also running the game with more filtering then the 360 can do.  I'd expect the framerate to dip at the setting he was using.  I'm not sure how well his monitor is calibrated (to not wash out colors amongst other things), but I imagine the combination caused him to like the smoother, more colorful 360 version.  Its pretty common and fairly easy to calibrate HDTVs, but a lot rarer I think for people to calibrate their monitors, and it does make a difference.

Anyway, the 360 is a pretty nice system, but I still don't think it full equals top of the line PCs.  Price wise, the 360 running on a TV that shows it off, isn't that different pricewise from a really good gaming system.

Who's your crack dealer? Tongue

Seriously, you think the term "pricewise" works with using SLI cards?? Cripes, ONE of those cards costs more than the system, TWO of them??? and that's ONLY the videocard. An X360 killer gaming rig is more expensive than going out and buying a 360, the neato accessories AND an HDTV to go with it (with a significantly larger screen, I might add). Then go out and buy a 2405FPW (~800 US MSRP) on top of that. Dollar for dollar, the console is cheaper. The manufacturers are taking a well-known LOSS for every hardware unit sold. Every component you buy for your rig generates revenue for its manufacturer.

for reference : 1650x1080 is 1.78million pixels. 1080i is 2.07 million, 1.03 million drawn per frame. 1080p is 2.07mill drawn, but since the x360 doesn't do it, it's a "mute" (read moot) point.
16624  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 - My Thoughts So Far on: November 20, 2005, 06:10:43 AM
"The Bath-house of Seville"
16625  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HDTV on: November 20, 2005, 05:54:08 AM
Quote from: "Kevin Grey"
Read what JCC said carefully- at that pricerange you get a better deal going with a 32" 4:3 set than a 30" 16:9 set since the 32" 4:3 buys you essentially identical screen real estate for 16:9 content (29" viewable area) and a 32" picture vice 24" picture for 4:3 content.  You sacrifice nothing.  

There is pretty much zero advantage to a widescreen set in this specific case unless you find black bars distracting (I tune them out).

Before the nazis attack, again I must reiterate this is for a very specific price target.  Anyone looking to spend over $1000 is much better off going with a widescreen larger (42"+) set.  

Slow down bucko... first for the Nazi comment. People who are avid about their toys are NOT the same as a facist regime who had the wherewithal to commit genocide AND pursue world domination at the same time.

The context is Eldon looking for an HD set. We'll stick to the thread on this.

To start things off, when you play games, or watch movies, what direction is commonly panned?

Left <---> Right   or    Up <--->Down? Think about it. The height of the picture is not nearly as critical as peripheral vision. Your eyes just don't work that way.

As to zero loss... lets do some quick math...

480i = 307,200 pixels, 153,600 per frame (standard TV)
480p = 307,200 pixels, 307,200 per frame (DVD quality... requires proscan) This is the default Xbox1 resolution
720p =  921,600 pixels, 921,600 per frame (HDTV, common with sports as it runs 60fps) Minimum required for x360 titles
1080i (540p) = 2,073,600 pixels, 1,036,800 per frame (HDTV)
1080p = 2,073,600 pixels, 2,073,600 per frame (non-ratified HDTV... not truly a standard and bandwidth is cost-prohibitive for broadcast as it takes twice the required space of either 720p or 1080i)

Inch per inch, regardless of screen SIZE, the resolution makes a BIG difference. To go to 480p from 720p is a 2/3 loss of screen resolution regardless of shape. That's like going from 1024x768 on your monitor down to 320x200. If he stated he wanted to watch full frame analog TV and get the most out of it, you'd be bang on. Oh, and that 307,200 is only progressive, if your set doesn't do progressive that means your down to 150K worth of per-frame pixels.
The industry is working towards completely digital content. This does NOT mean that 16:9 sets will completely replace the 4:3 in the next few years. What it DOES mean is that people get more out of it, and if the black horizontal bars don't bother you then the vertical grey bars shouldn't bother you either.

I can speak to the Sony TV set you were looking at buying Eldon, I have it's 2003 model. (has a memory stick plug and some other bells and whistles that were yanked last year to bring down the cost). It's awesome, it's affordable, and it's beautiful. The nice thing about this set (along with the stand) is that Sony provides a child-safe setup... it'd take a monumental amount of effort for ME to tip the television forward. I have a 2yr old, and this was a concern at the time of purchase.

The remote works well, the set is watchable close or at a distance, and the colors pop (after I used Avia to properly calibrate it).

Sounds like you found your set, I'm happy for ya. smile
16626  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / 360 Launch Blows... on: November 18, 2005, 09:01:04 PM
Actually, the games are the profit margin. The more systems means larger install base. The development of the system is their current cost-tank... getting the products out there is their #1 concern.

That being said, MS isn't too worried about the cost right now... they want to dominate the market, and to do that they've got to get the market whipped into a fever, and then let people gorge on their product as it becomes "available".

I don't condone it, I don't support it, hell I don't even like it, but it is what it is. They've got to play the game. Everyone has including Nintendo and Sony.
16627  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / I might be getting an Xbox 360 from Circuit City on: November 18, 2005, 08:53:05 PM
This makes us sad. We need Calvin on XBL.  frown
16628  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Are RSS feeds ever coming? on: November 18, 2005, 01:54:28 PM
*poke* *poke* psst... I'll keep bumping this thread then...  :twisted:
16629  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 - My Thoughts So Far on: November 18, 2005, 01:51:20 PM
I love the demo distribution idea... I hate having to buy a game mag (OXM) just for the disk, and then having to boil it to get it to work.... sheesh.
16630  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / WOOHOO!!! on: November 18, 2005, 04:24:43 AM
'gratz. Now get a 360 buddy. See ya online slywink
16631  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Its too damned quiet - this'll help...[NSFW] on: November 18, 2005, 04:21:57 AM
Quote from: "Zekester"

I love the nails.

try to stick to chicks who aren't cross-eyed. biggrin
16632  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Kameo Winter Warriors Pack on: November 18, 2005, 04:08:28 AM
Kameo has likely been done for a while... they don't just "come up" with another 7 hours... I suspect they said to MS "next title?" and MS said "Naw, build us some episodic content for Kameo". Since the game is complete that's what you *WOULD* have gotten regardless. Since the game has been pressed and mfgr'd they're not gonna toss the stock and reprint.

If they can get 5+ hours of gameplay out of a game every 3-6 months after its release, I'd be willing to pay 3bux a hit.

my 2cents.
16633  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / GTOfficial x360 Live Gamertag List on: November 17, 2005, 06:14:56 PM
Quote from: "Graham"

what does the GB stand for... Gold Bond? slywink
16634  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / GTOfficial x360 Live Gamertag List on: November 17, 2005, 06:10:06 PM
Quote from: "mytocles"
I'm trying to get mine switched from Knightshade CG to Knightshade GT....I'll let you know how it goes.

What - GamingTrendHortator was taken?

What is a Hortator? I know "Whore-Tator" a loose form  of the word Dictator... :twisted:
16635  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Final Fantasy 12 demo impressions on: November 17, 2005, 06:02:48 PM
Quote from: "wonderpug"
edit: just saw your post Gratch, I hadn't read any of the press on the game and I instantly felt the MMORPG vibe.  Terrible idea.  And I'm one of the few people who liked FFXI!

I loved FFXI ... awesome game, I loved how it forced people to either
A) know your role


B) Suck ass and whine.


As to playing an offline FFXI game, that does NOT appeal to me.
16636  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / GTOfficial x360 Live Gamertag REQUEST THREAD on: November 16, 2005, 08:43:08 PM

Click on this text to be taken to the new thread with the list.

Here is the Scoreboard for achievements!

This thread will be for ANY replies to the list, as I want NO OTHER MESSAGES added to the list thread as it slows it down.
16637  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Isn't it time to remove the: EVERYONE READ!!!! IMPORTANT!!! on: November 16, 2005, 08:35:45 PM
I've had chemical based colonectomy. ~20oz of Newfie Skreech in mah belly, 2 drunken buddies, a stupid dare and a 16oz bottle of louisianna hotsauce...

...down, down, doooowwwnnn the burning ring of fire...
16638  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Isn't it time to remove the: EVERYONE READ!!!! IMPORTANT!!! on: November 16, 2005, 04:38:31 PM
The title makes me laugh!!

"Isn't it time to remove the: EVERYONE READ!!! IMPORTANT!!!"

I thought the last part was just a note to all, so the next step was to understand the title to read :

"Isn't it time to remove the colon ( : ) ... EVERYONE READ!!! This message is IMPORTANT!!!"
16639  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Are RSS feeds ever coming? on: November 16, 2005, 04:36:15 PM
/em reaches WAAAAAYYYY BACK IN TIME to bump a thread....

Hey. Now that GT is up and running, wanna start testing that RSS thing again? I want me some RSS feeds, buddy.
16640  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Michelle Pfeiffer vs. Uma Thurman on: November 16, 2005, 01:45:19 PM
Roseanne Barr FTW!!
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