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15881  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HDTV for gaming.. on: July 19, 2006, 06:44:16 PM
Quote from: "hepcat"
It's a rear projection LCD, which i understand is completely different technology than an LCD.  however, it's getting pretty good customer reviews.  just curious if anyone's had any experience with it (or something close).

Do you feel like spending ~300 every 2-3 years for a new bulb?

Stay away from DLPs and RP-LCDs. Let that "technology" die with it's spiritual motherland... the Lite-Brite.  :evil:
15882  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What changes and improvements would you make for GTA 4? on: July 19, 2006, 03:33:01 PM
Grand Theft Auto : Smurf Edition.
15883  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / How do you know if a game has Starforce? on: July 19, 2006, 03:30:15 PM
15884  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Looks like we've been listed on Digg on: July 19, 2006, 03:27:57 PM
dugg as well.
15885  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HDTV for gaming.. on: July 18, 2006, 08:08:57 PM
Quote from: "hepcat"
are you folks with HDTV using large screen versions, for the most part?  what's the average screen size for most users?

Are you asking how many inches represent my hardware? slywink

54 in total; I expect this number to jump in about a year.

(30" sony hd crt set + 24" LCD Dell 2405FPW monitor )
15886  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Some Interesting EGM rumors - Square Enix Specific on: July 18, 2006, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: "EddieA"
I'm not trying to tell the future; I'm just  making educated guesses based on current sales and what we know now.

I wasn't trying to be caustic (although that line does seem that way) ... what I intended to imply by it is that the confidence that Sony will be the biggest market share is, in my humble opinion, a load of donkey balls.

They are facing challenges that are VERY reminiscent of the Xbox1 launch (tech issues, market adoption, etc) and I am wary of their little marketing dog and pony show. the cow says to the pony: "Why don't you talk to me?"
and the pony replied :
Spoiler for Hiden:
"I'm a little hoarse".
15887  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What changes and improvements would you make for GTA 4? on: July 18, 2006, 07:54:49 PM
Controls +3
better AI
Less gang pop-ups.
Hot-Coffee mod INSTALLED and accessible. I hate patching. slywink
split-screen & life (co-op) multiplayer
deathmatch, alt. gametypes.
15888  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 18, 2006, 07:40:14 PM
Quote from: "Lockdown"
It's really not all that complicated.  You throw a bunch of guns on a base, attach some other crap, and you go out there and try to blow the snot out of the other team.  :wink:   Tongue

I'm with Shifty... I think I'm gonna sit this dance out. I don't have the time right now; I doubt I'll be really into gaming for another 3 months. by that time we'll be shootin' up terrorists in Vegas and defending ourselves in the Gears o' War (an irish title, no doubt biggrin)
15889  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HDTV for gaming.. on: July 18, 2006, 04:27:53 PM
702p and 1080i are HD compliant. It doesn't matter how one camp or the other bitches. They both have their strong points. 1080p is "new" and not part of the HD specification required for HD compliance.

It requires twice the data throughput.(hence the two HDMI connections)
15890  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Very funny - Top 10 unintentionally worst company URL's on: July 18, 2006, 02:30:07 PM
Quote from: "mytocles"
Neither is BJ's Discount Club ""  - as i found out the ummm... shocking way, lol.  What was ! thinking?  :roll:

That musta sucked. :: guffaw :: slywink

The Flippin Church of Christ is funny in a sad way. I mean, their website was designed by 1993.
15891  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Some Interesting EGM rumors - Square Enix Specific on: July 18, 2006, 12:29:17 PM
Quote from: "EddieA"
Unless the PS3 tanks and the Wii takes off, I can't see Square Enix dropping support for the system that is likely going to have the largest install base, especially with their biggest seller.  It makes more sense than moving it to the 360, but why would they want to limit their sales?

Are we doing the Future chicken counting event? I forgot my magical hat of fortune-telling. frown At this time, PS3 has generated 0 sales. As to Wii being viable, the japanese games haven't pushed technical envelopes (typically speaking) ... they push art and pre-rendered moreso than game(this is a generalization; I'm sure there are exceptions to that rule). If the Wii has a larger audience (and Nintendo has been around the block a few times on this whole "new console launch" thing), then they're going to go where the Money* is. Nintendo is more than capable of being a console leader; they've been in the captains seat before.

As to the "make more sense than moving it to the 360" comment, if the PS3 tanks, the next gen system to have is the 360 beyond the japanese market... guess what? That means that all the people who would have bought it on the PS platform will likely have a 360, and the developer doesn't lose. MS may also coax them with a bigger kickback or something; they need the Japanese devs to be able to crack the land of the rising fun.

The japanese market has not grown in the past 4 years; it's actually shrunk in the console market. (hand-helds is the moneymaker there, IIRC). Developers have to look at international sales and decide where they're going to earn their chunk of the 10+billion dollar market.

*Yes, nintendo IS IN FACT making money. Sorry Devil. slywink
15892  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Amazing Screw-On Head! Watch now and vote for more! on: July 16, 2006, 04:37:08 PM
"ask politely?"
15893  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Adding a second hd help on: July 16, 2006, 01:03:40 AM
Quote from: "Zero"
Purge, great tutorial...what did you use for the screen shots and marking it up?

MSPaint. smile Notice how the numbers are all over the place? I didn't care much about the final look; it was "useful" info. biggrin
15894  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / TEAM FORTRESS 2 LIVES! on: July 16, 2006, 01:02:39 AM
Linky Linky
Quote from: "Some_Schmuck_From_IGN"

Team Fortress 2 Teaser Impressions
Valve's class-based shooter arises from the dead with a wholly unique look and style.
by Chris Roper  
 July 14, 2006 - Nearly 10 years ago, a trio of fellows named Robin Walker, John Cook and Ian Caughley released what would go down as one of the most important mod releases to date, Team Fortress. The free modification for the original Quake brought about class-based team play into the world of 3D shooters, allowing players the ability to take on the roles of a sniper, spy, medic and more and make use of their specialized skills in a slew of multiplayer modes, including Capture the Flag and Attack and Defend.

The game was successful enough that the team formed TeamFortress Software to begin work on Team Fortress 2, what was then intended to be a commercial mod for Quake II. Valve Software quickly snatched up the young development house and released their sequel work as Team Fortress Classic, a free mod for Valve's own Half-Life. After its release, Valve announced that work on Team Fortress 2: Brotherhood of Arms was underway and a short while later released a handful of screenshots and a gameplay trailer.

The Old Look....  
For its time, the game looked to feature some extremely impressive technology, like proximity-based lip syncing on characters that matched actual players' voice chatting in-game. It also looked to have changed style quite a bit, shifting from the original Team Fortress' hectic play to a much more realistic combat simulation. Unfortunately, the screenshots released in 2001 were the last time that any concrete information had been heard about the game, until now.

Valve has now revealed that Team Fortress 2 will make up the multiplayer component for its forthcoming Half-Life 2: Episode Two. Along with Valve's experimental first-person puzzler, Portal, Team Fortress 2 will be a standalone game but essentially free as part of the Episode Two package. No price has been given as of yet, but it's assumed that it'll run for $19.95 like Episode One.

... And The New Look  
Team Fortress 2 will feature nearly all of the classes from the original game, including the Heavy, Spy, Scout, Demolitions, Engineer, Medic, Sniper, Soldier and Pyro, making for nine classes in all. Valve hasn't released any sort of information on what loadouts each class will carry.

While the classes have largely stayed the same, one thing that's extremely unique about Team Fortress 2 is its look. While the video that we saw was an edited-together montage, it featured in-game footage of the characters posing smugly for the camera, giving us a great look at the game's art and rendering style. Characters have been designed in a highly exaggerated fashion, drawing attention to what we'd assume would be their main attributes. From the sickly-thin frame for the sniper (the better to hide with) to the massive hulking arms for the heavy, it looks like you'll easily be able to spot character classes in the middle of a battlefield.

The most unique thing about the characters' looks however is the way they're rendered. Using a brand-new lighting system implemented into Source, the characters look like a cross between an action figure and a cartoon. They're clearly 3D, but feature very little texture detail. The lighting is extremely smooth however, giving them the appearance of being sculpted models or something similar - Toy Story-esque is the description that probably comes closest.

The teaser that we saw showed little more than the characters posing for a quick bit, so as of yet we know nothing about game types, map designs or anything else of that sort. Team Fortress 2 (along with HL2: Episode Two and Portal) do not have a firm release date as of yet, but being as Valve plans to ship Half-Life 2 (along with Episode One and Two, Portal and TF2) to the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 at the same time as the PC release of Episode Two, we can expect mid-November to be the earliest we'll get our hands on it. On the other hand, Valve had planned to ship Episode Two roughly six months after Episode One, which released on June 1st, so plan on seeing the game sometime this winter season.

15895  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Lamenting on the past - Favorite RPG of all time on: July 16, 2006, 12:58:20 AM
Quote from: "Daehawk"
Savage Empire
Dark Sun

THERE ya go. Loved Dark Sun. Ooo, and Ruins of Myth Drannor (EOB, IIRC).

EOB1 and 2... 3 was SSI with no westwood, and somehow made it run WORSE.
15896  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Lamenting on the past - Favorite RPG of all time on: July 15, 2006, 12:02:58 PM
Might and Magic - World of Xeen
Eye of the Beholder 1 & 2
Dungeon Hack (text)
ninja Ultima VII and VIIpt.2 were my favorites (screw you Ron! Tongue )

There was another game that was awesome, but I can't remember the name of it. :: sigh :: I can't even describe it.
15897  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / TEAM FORTRESS 2 LIVES! on: July 15, 2006, 02:22:23 AM
I met one of the texture artists for TF2 in E3 2003 (she was hot, btw). She was staying in the hotel that we were at. I shoulda hit it. biggrin

[ edited to get rid of an identical double-post]
15898  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / TEAM FORTRESS 2 LIVES! on: July 15, 2006, 02:22:09 AM
15899  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Natalie Portman will do a nude scene on: July 13, 2006, 09:07:48 PM
Quote from: "warning"
What's frightening is there are people for whom that will be a bigger turn-on.

 :twisted:  Are we talking real torture (watching the Anna Nichole Smith show) or just porno torture (light cheek slapping, etc  :  :  :wink:  :wink:  )?
15900  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 Q&A Leaked. on: July 13, 2006, 09:04:33 PM
Quote from: "ChaoZ"

Nice if true. I have the PS2 slim and it's DAMN quiet.

My PS3 is whisper-quiet. slywink
15901  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Adding a second hd help on: July 13, 2006, 03:36:05 PM
here's the basic idea :

Your PC will either have 2 or 4 IDE controllers on the main(mother)board (if you can find the mainboard model that will help). You will have 4 if the board has an onboard RAID controller. (this would effectively let you get better performance as most RAID controllers also work as straight connections, and each device could sit on it's own controller).

That, however, is not the point here. smile

To add the second hard disk you will likely need to add it to the Primary controller (as it is best to have your cd/dvd drives AFTER your disks).

I am going to assume that both CD and DVD are on the second controllers' ribbon cable; if not, they should be moved there. See below for the two recommended configs for jumpers. (as this will be the same as the hard drive config).

The primary cable should have :
  • a blue end (80pin) connector - Mainboard connector
  • a gray (80pin) connector at the 3/4 mark - Master Drive
  • a black end (80pin) connector - Slave Drive
(see wikipedia for a picture)

If it only has two or 3 black ends you are going to need to set jumpers... this can be the most frustrating part, as not all drives get along (even though they *should* ). Here's a quick diagram for the jumpers:

: : :

You will need to set each drive to the right location. (this includes CD/DVD drives). If one or both cables only have 2 connectors, you're going to need to buy some more. Get the colored ones.

If you have the black/gray/blue cable, you can set ALL devices jumpers to cable select (likely a "CS" marking on the drive). Just plug the drives into the location you want them in. Your first drive should be plugged into the gray connector. Your second drive should be plugged into the black one.

DONE. Seriously. That's it. The only other thing you'll need to do is go into the setup and make sure you have that particular drive set up to AUTO so that the system hardware is detected.

Then you should be able to go into windows, and right-click on My Computer, select Manage and go into disk management. You should see a list of drives below, including your new one. Since you want it as storage, you can either cut it up into smaller drives or make it one big drive.

If you need help with this, put up a second message and I'll try to help out.
You can send me a PM and I'd be more than happy to walk you through this if you need it. (I don't pay LD for north american long distance calls, you're more than welcome to send your phone #.).

Oh, and here's a quick shot of how to see how your drives are currently configured.

Step 1: Start >> Settings >> Control Panel >> System Properties >> Hardware >> Device Manager
Step 2: Set View >> Devices by Connection
Step 3: expand PC >> Microsoft APCI compliant, >> PCI Bus (they will have similar names)
Step 4: find your IDE drive controllers and expand all of them. If you want, you can write them out (not the serial numbers ) to remember where they were, or print or save a screenshot of it. Exporting it is a pain as it is text details.
15902  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / The Ship on: July 13, 2006, 12:37:54 PM
Quote from: "Eduardo X"

You *do* know what SPAM stands for, right? (no I'm not making this up)
Message (or Mail).

Yours isn't in these categories (well, maybe M), except if you don't post the link! biggrin
15903  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [360] NCAA 2007 Demo on Marketplace today! on: July 13, 2006, 12:33:05 PM
I suspect the "slow" has to do with the fact that it hasn't been propigated to all the live servers so you're not getting it from the best one for your region (and those fewer servers ARE being hammered). biggrin
15904  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Funniest Videos on the Interweb (A Collection) NSFW on: July 13, 2006, 12:30:00 PM
You must have seen Hadoken ( from ... right? No? Get TO IT, man. biggrin
15905  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / My Letter to Starforce on: July 12, 2006, 06:19:13 PM
I am formerly going

Formally. slywink
15906  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / First time building a new rig... help me! help me! on: July 12, 2006, 04:27:01 PM
I would personally suggest NCIX; they also do price matching, so if you find it cheaper online, they'll match it (including rebates).

Best bang for the buck (video) - eVGA PCI-E 256MB Nvidia 7600 GT CO. The cons listed on the newegg page are false; there's something else buggin' his system up. rates it pretty high. I've had one for 3 months, no problems.

Minimum a gig of dual channel ram. I'd recommend the low-end ASUS board; A8N-SLI (not the 32, unless you KNOW you're going to go SLI for sure). If you don't need firewire, go for the M1697 version of the ASROCK ULI board. It's good considering the price (once again, bang for buck). Don't go for the M1695 version, and NCIX doesn't carry the M1697.

I would put the money into a 3800+ X2 dual core CPU(AnandTech conclusion on Manchester X2 3800+); Windows Vista will use it, so go for it. As for sound, get an oem Audigy 2 (or the 4 which is just a repackaged 2). It's not as good as the X-FI, but it will still use less processing power than onboard sound. Onboard sound will chew up ~15-19% of CPU (under load like gaming), whereas a PCI soundcard will sit at less than 5%.  Sonata II has an awesome internal design, powersupply and case, you may want to pick up a second 120mm silent case fan for the hard disk bays.

I'd suggest hitting a local store and test-driving a few keyboards/mice. I'm a fan of "natural" boards and the Saitek Eclipse. You can also get a G7 gaming mouse for teh cheap at NCIX (using pricematches).

NCIX is predominantly a canadian site, so their canadian sales site is actually cheaper than the american side... but since they offer price matching you're laughing. Either way I've provided the alt links so you're not restricted. Try to get a cheap shipping promo (NCIX had a "under 300lbs for 7.99 ground" shipping deal when I had my case, speakers and a monitor shipped). Also, the NCIX prices below are all based on reg. pricing; they have sales section updated weekly which I didn't use (as it changes so often).

Here's the rig I'd build: (in USD)

$ 139.99 PCIE eVGA 7600 GT CO - Pricematch with to get rebate right away.
$ 297.00 Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Dual Core S939 Manchester 2GHZ 512KBX2 90NM Retail - Pricematch with
$ 117.00 ASUS A8N-SLI Motherboard ATX NFORCE4-SLI S939 DDR 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E 3PCI SATA RAID LAN Sound 1394 is more expensive.
$ _80.00 ASRock 939SLI32-eSATA2 Socket 939 ULi M1697 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
$ 100.00 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA2 3GB/S 7200RPM 16MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive 99.99 in combo deals till jul.20 or Pricematch
$ _48.50 Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4 SE PCI 7.1 Surround Sound Card OEM doesn't carry this. (go with Audigy 2, it's the same basic thing)
$ 100.00 Antec Sonata II Black ATX 16IN Mid Tower Quiet Case 450W Air Duct 120MM Fan - Pricematch with or combo with CPU at NCIX.
$ _37.00 BenQ DW1655 Lightscribe DVD+RW16X16X8 DVD-RW16X16X4 CDRW48X48X32 OEM DVD Black W/ SW - Pricematch with
$ 100-150 1GB PC3200 2x512MB DUAL Channel RAM
$ 30-150 Keyboard / Mouse based on preference.

The remaining (I'll assume 100 for RAM and 50 for KBD/Mouse) is : 10 bux or 60bux (with the ASROCK). With taxes and shipping you'd have a system that will run oblivion REALLY WELL, the only thing missing is a monitor.

5. KD shows up at my house and delivers a paralyzing martial arts attack, leaving me incapacitated in a wheelchair for the rest of my life.

Monkey Steals the Peach.
15907  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Let's name off supermodels we've slept with! on: July 11, 2006, 08:16:48 PM
Quote from: "Suitably Ironic Moniker"
This thread is worthless without U2K.

U2K is worthless without this thread.
15908  Gaming / Analog Gaming / What would make the perfect game store? (need ideas) on: July 10, 2006, 09:48:42 PM
One other thing... make sure your gamer employees are sales people.

There's nothing more annoying than some schmuck who's telling you that you shouldn't bother with the Xbox360, cuz the PS3 is gonna "Stomp that crap into the ground". It's not professional to dis half of your products based on personal bias. Hey, SOMEONE wanted Barbie Horse Adventures made.

They shouldn't lie about it, but having a bit of knowledge on the product is a great thing.
15909  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What are you buying this week? (7/10) on: July 10, 2006, 09:38:18 PM
No guarantees on anything. Just ordered Titan quest online for teh cheap.
15910  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 Q&A Leaked. on: July 10, 2006, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: "disarm"
according to this answer, doesn't sound like you'll get a 'spiderman' color at launch ...
Q3. Do you have two color variations of black and silver for two different models ?
A3. This model comes in one color (clear black) only. There may be color variations in the future.

I understood that to mean that the PS3 -gimp- came in black only (hence the "This model" comment). The prev. two questions spoke to Gimp edition, which lends itself to that context.

I think the expensive one comes in multi-colors.
15911  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 Q&A Leaked. on: July 10, 2006, 08:05:12 PM
Yeah, I know the region coding isn't necessarily SCEA's idea (although Sony Ent is probably part of the other side to that coin).

As to the boiling down part, I'm referring specifically to USB reduced ports, no media readers, no hdmi, most games are NOT headed to 1080p (it's likely going to be like XBOX1 with 1080i... 4 titles, IIRC).

I'm sure the rumble dropped has nothing to do with gyro; immersion has indicated that they'd already found a solution for it. Sony just doesn't want to play nice.

Cost + no royalty to Immersion is more likely.
15912  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3's good points? on: July 10, 2006, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: "Destructor"
Quote from: "Arkon"
I guess my hearing isn't very good, but I can't tell a difference between iTunes and a CD.

My hearing is good and the differences between a 128kbps encoding and a CD are very minor, at best.

 a little off-topic, but the 128bit iTunes ain't the same as 128bit ripped MP3. The AAC is higher quality. There's a few new formats that are "lossless".
15913  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Are willing to pay for this? on: July 10, 2006, 03:34:34 PM
As to companies selling stupid things, (like gamerpics) it's just that it's their IP (intellectual property). They choose to do it; and since no one has lowered the price then it stays where it is. You will be able to take pics with your camera later this year; I expect gamerpics to be free (as it's almost advertising their products).
15914  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What are you buying this week? (7/10) on: July 10, 2006, 03:08:51 PM
Quote from: "warning"
I played the Prey demo and it was fine but not really anything that stood out.  I might buy it once it drops in price a bunch.

But of COURSE we've seen multi-surface spirit-walking portal jumping FPS's about american natives. Isn't that a rip-off of Barbies Whores Adventures? slywink
15915  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 Q&A Leaked. on: July 10, 2006, 03:06:07 PM
Q27. Why did you reduce the number of USB ports from 6 to 4 ?
A27. PS3 is a computer system. Number of ports can be expanded by using adaptors available on the market.

Q28. Why did you reduce the number of Ethernet ports from 3 to 1 ?
A28. We had one input (WAN) and two outputs (LAN) in mind, but given that nowadays network connection is spreading within the homes, we considered that one Ethernet connection to a router would be sufficient.

So they're boiling away the crap and it's coming down to it. They STILL aren't getting rid of region encoding... :: sigh ::

I don't doubt that I will buy a PS3 (platinum Spiderman edition) on launch day, but whether or not it hits EBAY has yet to be seen. biggrin
15916  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 Q&A Leaked. on: July 10, 2006, 03:03:24 PM
Quote from: "Arkon"
Nah, just a matter of clever placement, and there are pleasurable nerve endings in more than a few spots on the female body...

You bastards.. I'm at work right now; I don't need to be trying to think of where to put 7 non-vibrating controllers on my gf to "Stimulate".  :?
15917  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / What was the #1 song on the day you were born? on: July 08, 2006, 09:28:44 PM
Quote from: "dbt1949"
Mine was theBattle Hymn of the Republic. :?

I thought it would have been "Scotland the brave" slywink
15918  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3's good points? on: July 08, 2006, 12:08:16 PM
Quote from: "corruptrelic"
Itagaki has expressed concerns over the limited capacity DVD offers in the era of High Definition. He feels developers will struggle to fit High Definition pre-rendered sequences onto the 9GB format, being particularly problematic for Japanese developers who prefer to use pre-rendered over real time cut scenes.

"The volume of data in Enchant Arms won't fit into a single DVD. It's an RPG, so we're thinking it would be inevitable that we release it on two discs," says Takeuchi. "But to be honest, that's even looking grim."

Backwards compatiblity is important to me mainly because there's at least 35 PS2 games I have that I plan on keeping around for the next-gen. Yes of course 100% of games aren't going to be BC, that's impossible. The vast majority of ps1 games played on the ps2 without problems though, so I can't see how it'd be any different for the PS3.

Granted the PS3 isn't out yet as you've pointed out so it's hard to speculate how things will fall into place once the PS3 launches at the end of the year, and the years to follow.. but I know this debate has only got me that much more interested in seeing some charts for the PS3 games released on BluRay and just how much space they're taking up..

First of all, they are building pre-rendered sequences. How much space do you need for 2 hours of movie? So how much of the game are you getting? If they want to fill up disks with FMV, then by all means go for it. It isn't game though... it's filler. It's support for games, it's not games itself. Granted it is nice, and can be done well, but I'm not a big fan of watching games. (MGS I'm lookin' at YOU). You'll also note that the western devs aren't crying so loud about space.

Now, in running a risk of having multiple disks is a bad thing? How many PS2 games, how many PS1 games have been multi-disk?

The cost offset to include a new, and market untested technology in a strategic product is far too risky IMHO. I would have LOVED HD-DVD in the 360, but I understand and can respect their decision to release what they did. I wouldn't be surprised if MS releases a 200GB HD in the near future and lets devs get their FMVs installed on the HD to overcome the "i don't wanna swap disks" complaint. I have no problems changing media. I just think about how many seconds of effort that is to add up to 600USD. slywink

BC is a transition benefit; most people, once having the new console, will move forward. You said so yourself ... we're moving into the future. I'd rather play GRAW than RS6 3.

Also, to Kevin Grey... move your older consoles to a secondary television, or get one of those play-switch devices and get yerself 4 of them to daisychain. Tell your wife that a cablemonster has infested your livingroom, and they can't go in there anymore. smile
15919  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3's good points? on: July 08, 2006, 11:52:19 AM
Quote from: "unbreakable"
Quote from: "Purge"
Quote from: "only1"
I remember a day when a gaming system actually came with, oh, a GAME!  Now you have to buy your first game seperately.
NES. Mario & Duck hunt. SNES may have as well, however no other console after it was not available as the core itself, IIRC. Oh, and that inflated the cost of the console and stuck you with a title you may not have wanted. There *is* another side to this coin.

GameCube came with Super Mario Sunshine.

Check out the bold. You could buy the system without a game. Also, that was it's primary selling option. Most people bitch nowadays when bundles are forced on them (XBOX1 initially forced bundles; they caved due to customer demand)
15920  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Zarkon's BUY ME A NEW PC Sale on: July 08, 2006, 11:44:17 AM
no biggie smile
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