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15841  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / How long can you stay conscious after being decapitated? on: May 05, 2006, 11:40:06 AM
I've gone weeks without using my head.

Try to imagine what the brain is recieving in terms of neural signals. You know that feeling you get when you sleep on your arm and the circulation is cut? Well, multiply THAT by a thousand... smile
15842  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / 1,200 LB man...put down the Twinkies on: May 05, 2006, 11:36:32 AM
Quote from: "unbreakable"
He should fish for corporate sponsorship.  It worked for Jarred.


Maybe a ball-gag company. slywink

yeah, I know; gland problems are more likely. (to SOME extent... there still has to be diet and he's responsible for what he choses to chew up and swallow)
15843  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Attention female gamers! Atari wants to hear your opinions! on: May 05, 2006, 11:33:05 AM
+1 ... lol'iing was definately happening here.
15844  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 and iPod on: May 05, 2006, 01:33:11 AM
I was using the dock. smile
15845  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Attention female gamers! Atari wants to hear your opinions! on: May 04, 2006, 08:42:14 PM
If it mentions M60's, M.Moriarty'll be all over it like white on rice.
15846  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 and iPod on: May 04, 2006, 08:41:05 PM
as I recall, my iPod photo 60GB does the same.
15847  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Superman Returns - new full trailer - OMFG!!! on: May 04, 2006, 06:36:39 PM
Quote from: "Dafones"
Yeah, I hear ya - and that will be used to show when Superman really is sweating. You know when Superman is worried that it's a big deal.


"Oh my god, I think I got Lana pregnant! Lois is gonna be PISSED!"
15848  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 and iPod on: May 04, 2006, 06:15:33 PM
plug it in and look for the flashing battery. biggrin
15849  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / *****PRE-E3 CONTEST MONTH***** Oblivion 2ND WINNER ANNOUNCED on: May 04, 2006, 03:29:21 PM
please PLEASE ship it with insurance / tracking; USPS just lost Metriod Prime : Echoes for me. frown Farley2K can attest.
15850  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Nintendo changes name of Revolution to..... on: May 04, 2006, 03:27:23 PM
Dafones, I'm with you on this.

Wii want impressions!!
15851  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Confirmed list of 360 games at E3??? on: May 03, 2006, 03:57:42 PM
Here's a cleaned up version of the list above:

  •       Alone in the Dark      -     Atari    
  •       Army of Two     -     EA Games    
  •       Assassin's Creed      -     Ubisoft    
  •       Battlestations: Midway      -     Eidos Interactive    
  •       Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway      -     Ubisoft    
  •       Call of Duty 2      -     Activision    
  •       Chromehounds      -     Sega    
  •       Crackdown      -     Microsoft    
  •       Culdcept Saga      -     Namco Bandai Games    
  •       Dark Sector      -     D3    
  •       Dead or Alive Xtreme 2      -     Tecmo    
  •       Dead Rising      -     Capcom    
  •       Def Jam 3 (working title)      -     EA Games    
  •       Dungeon Explorer      -     Hudson    
  •       Enchanted Arms      -     Ubisoft    
  •       Eragon      -     Vivendi Games    
  •       F.E.A.R.      -     Vivendi Games    
  •       Fable 2 (working title)      -     Microsoft Game Studios    
  •       Frame City Killer      -     Namco America    
  •       Frontlines: Fuel of War     -     THQ    
  •       Gears of War      -     Microsoft Game Studios    
  •       GTR      -     THQ    
  •       Halo 3     -     Microsoft Game Studios   
  •       Hitman: Blood Money      -     Eidos Interactive    
  •       Huxley      -     Webzen    
  •       Indiana Jones (working title)      -     LucasArts    
  •       Just Cause      -     Eidos Interactive    
  •       LMA Manager 2007      -     Codemasters    
  •       Lost Odyssey      -     Microsoft Game Studios    
  •       Lost Planet: Extreme Condition      -     Capcom    
  •       Madden NFL 07      -     EA Sports    
  •       Marvel: Ultimate Alliance      -     Activision    
  •       Mass Effect      -     Microsoft Game Studios    
  •       Medal of Honor: Airborne      -     Electronic Arts    
  •       Mobile Ops: The One Year War      -     Namco Bandai Games America    
  •       Monster Madness      -     ??   
  •       MotoGP 06      -     THQ    
  •       NBA 2K7      -     2K Sports    
  •       NCAA Football 07      -     EA Sports    
  •       Ninety-Nine Nights      -     Microsoft Game Studios    
  •       Open Season     -     Ubisoft    
  •       Over G Fighters      -     Ubisoft    
  •       Phantasy Star Universe      -     Sega    
  •       Prey      -     2K Games    
  •       Return to Castle Wolfenstein (working title)      -     Activision    
  •       Saint's Row      -     THQ    
  •       Samurai Warriors 2      -     Koei    
  •       Scarface: The World Is Yours      -     Vivendi Games    
  •       Sega Rally Revo      -     Sega    
  •       Sonic The Hedgehog (working title)      -     Sega    
  •       Star Trek: Legacy      -     Bethesda Softworks    
  •       Stranglehold      -     Midway    
  •       Superman Returns: The game      -     EA Games    
  •       Table Tennis      -     Take-Two Interactive    
  •       Test Drive Unlimited      -     Atari    
  •       The Godfather      -     Electronic Arts    
  •       The Lord of the Rings, The Battle for Middle-earth II      -     EA Games    
  •       The Precursors      -     Play Ten    
  •       TimeShift      -     Vivendi Games    
  •       Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter     -     Ubisoft    
  •       Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas      -     Ubisoft    
  •       Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent      -     Ubisoft    
  •       Too Human      -     Microsoft    
  •       Turok (working title)      -     Buena Vista Games    
  •       Two Worlds      -     TopWare    
  •       Virtua Tennis 3      -     Sega    
  •       Viva Piņata      -     Microsoft Game Studios    
  •       World Pool Championship 2007      -     Sega    
  •       World Soccer Winning Eleven 10      -     Konami    
  •       WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2007      -     THQ    
  •       X-Men: The Official Game     -     Activision    
15852  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Nintendo changes name of Revolution to..... on: May 01, 2006, 10:10:19 PM
That's not likely true.

Wii'll see, I suppose.
15853  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / FFXI - Impressions/General Talk on: May 01, 2006, 07:25:28 PM
always ALWAYS check mobs before attacking them.

The way the scale works is this :
(all from memory; no promises of technical accuracy)

Not worth fighting (or somesuch message) = 0xp
Too Easy = 10+
Easy = 50+
Decent Challenge = 70+
Even Match = 100+
Tough = 125+
Very tough = 150+
Impossible = 175+

When you get into parties, Tough should be the lowest you go for, as the total party XP is based on the mob's rating to the highest member. This means that if your lvl20 party has a lvl 40WHM you would need to fight monsters in the 40's to get ANY experience.

The closer the levels are, the better it is. Your members shouldn't vary in level beyond 3.

If you have:
18WHM
18PLD
19WAR
20MNK
20DRK  

and you have a choice between the following :
17THF
19THF
21THF

Go with the 19THF as the safe bet.

If you don't have that option, and both the 20MNK and 20DRK are about to lvl up (TNL or To Next Level is low) then take the 21THF if he's a long way from 22)

Barring that, go with the 17THF. Just know that they are going to be less effective, and will miss more than the other pt members (so you should have a strong party to support them).

I would go with the 17THF over the 21THF if the 17's TNL is low (as he's basically an 18 ).
15854  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / FFXI - Impressions/General Talk on: May 01, 2006, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: "Andraax"
I was fighting near a BLM last night and I kept seeing combat spam showing he was getting interrupted a lot.

I'm still getting used to a menu-based UI, since I also play EQ2 and DDO, and the first thing I looked for was a hotbar.

-Andraax


Use the CTRL and ALT bars.... go to your main menu, second screen, and there you can program macros. You can also turn on chat filters which let you eliminate the "Others" chats. So you *WILL* see Party, self, and monsters you fight, but people beside you don't fill up your screen.

Some tips :
[list=1]
  • www.gamefaqs.com is your friend.
  • So is http://ffxi.allakazham.com .
  • Alt - R replies to people who have sent tells to you (keep hitting R to cycle through recipients, IIRC the max is 10),
  • ALT-P takes whatever text you've typed (and not sent yet) and sends it to the party
  • ALT-L is the same for Linkshell
  • ALT-T is the same for a tell (whisper)
  • Click on yourself, choose chat, and then you get an option to choose your default chat mode.
  • Useful macros :
/check <t>  
/ra <t> (ranged attack, iirc)
/p Warning: Pulling <t> at <pos> /call3
  • Useful macros :
/p <p0> - HP @ <hpp> (<hp>)    MP @ <mpp> (<mp>)  TP @ <tp>
  • useful macros :
/follow <t>
/t <t> FYI: Turning on /follow macro.
  • Set up a macro for pretty much all abilities you have, such as /ja (job abilities) /ws (weapon skills) and /ma (magic) ... you definately want to announce ahead of time what you are doing.
e.g. -  Burning Blade  Macro :
           /p (Burning Blade) in 4 seconds!! /call02
           /wait 3
           /ws "Burning Blade" <bt>
           /p Unleashing (Burning Blade)!! Follow my Skillchain / Renkei!!
Note that you can either use the (Burning Blade) translator in the WS line, or the exact name including spaces within quotations.

  • /p <p0> status :: HP @ <hpp> :: TP @ <tp> :: MP @ <mpp>
/echo <p0> detail :: HP <hp> :: TP @ <tp>  :: MP <mp>

so you will give the party info on your percent, and then right below it you will tell yourself the breakdown. This is most useful for wating for a skill to become available. See next one for example

  • /p Provoking <t> !! /call2
    /ja "Provoke" <t>
    /wait 30
    /echo Provoke avail in 30 sec.
   /wait 25
   /echo Provoke avail in 5 sec
   /echo Provoke is Available! /call6

This means, as a warrior, you are notifying yourself as to when you can provoke again and get the mob to attack you. it makes you MUCH MORE effective as a tank. With 2 WARs running this script 30 sec apart, it keeps more of the hate off the non-meat-shields.
[/list:o]

<t> is target
<bt> is battle target (mob name name in red)
<p0-5> is party members; 0 is always self
<pos> gives the co-ordinates on your current map (H-5)
/p is party chat
<hp> is hitpoints  - 125/500
<hpp> is hitpoint percent  - 25%
<mp> is manapoints - 200/400
<mpp> is manapoint percent  - 50%
<tp> is Tech points (skillchain / Weaponskill) - 87%
All of these work from command line
There is also a comment switch, so you can have it appear as an FYI ... I think it's /echo, but it might be something else.
Also, you can make your char do things without saying anything ( /wave vs /wave motion)
15855  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Nintendo changes name of Revolution to..... on: May 01, 2006, 05:48:58 PM
Quote from: "Graham"
Ziploc makes sense for what it is used for.


How about Seal-a-bag? Zip comes from a device which has 10s of interlocking teeth. This is a ridge. They're standing on the name of a "Zipper" which is also an odd name.

Quote from: "Graham"
Same as Vicegrip.


Vicegrip is a brand-name of a product that stepped over it's functional name: Locking wrench. It's the same as facial tissue (or disposable hankerchief) being superceded by the Kleenex brand.

Quote from: "Graham"
Yahoo most likely comes from "Yee Haw" and is an exclamation of discovery.


And Wii (as in Wheee!) would be any less valid ? slywink

Quote from: "Graham"
Transformers are vehicles that change into robots, what else would you have called them?


They aren't restricted to vehicles, however to illustrate the point you could call them Transforming Robots, Dual-Bots, Go-Bots slywink, Robot Disguisers, Voltron. They could have named it based on the racial conflicts : Autobots vs. Decepticons or based on the color of their logos. (Red vs. Blue/Purple)

The fact is, a transformer is a device in the electrical world that has been around longer than the merchandise; for most of us the context determines what we think. If I say "I'm looking forward to the new Transformer movie" you're not thinking of an electrical documentary.

Quote from: "Graham"
These are good names for products.  Wii isn't.  While they might have gone through and thought of "whee" like kids on a merry-go-round, there are some other negative connotations for the console.  I have a feeling that Nintendo planned for some backlash, but I don't believe that they had any idea of the backlash they'd get.


This is your opinion, and I don't for a moment think you aren't entitled to it. I would like suggest the following thought process behind the name :
[list=a]
  • Global product
  • Universal name
  • It is typical for industry to shorten name to acronyms (PS2, GC, NES, GBA etc)
  • Representative of multiplayer
  • Appeals to non-gamers
  • Something fun-sounding
  • [/list:o]
    You can't tell me that a company like Nintendo didn't have 1000's of hours spent in focus groups spread out over their different markets including their existing customer base as well as their new target demographic. Why else did they anticipate the negative backlash? I mean, MS got a huge backlash this time last year with the Xbox360, it's design, the controller, etc, etc etc.

    As to LE's comment about the term Wee as being a UK term for pissing, so I guess you try not to think with your head? (another slang, IIRC slywink). The very next post then goes on to call it gay, a term we are ALL aware means happy, unless you're referring to the slang for homosexual.
15856  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / For Sale / FT : Gamecube component Cables + extras (SOLD) on: April 30, 2006, 02:06:41 PM
I have an offer on the table right now KC; if it falls through I'll pm you.
15857  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Starwolves 2 shots on: April 29, 2006, 04:44:58 PM
Quote from: "Luke"
Das Universum...Braucht Dich!!!


The Universe ... Needs You!!!

( I'm not using a translator either slywink )
15858  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / EA on Madden for the ... ugh... Wii on: April 29, 2006, 04:42:19 PM
Quote from: "denoginizer"
I don't see how that type of control scheme could work online.  Just a little bit of lag would cause huge problems.  I guess we'll see.


Doesn't it anyways? how do we know the signal the controller is sending is any more data than a mouse which reads at up to 1500 times per second?
15859  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / *****PRE-E3 CONTEST MONTH***** Oblivion 2ND WINNER ANNOUNCED on: April 29, 2006, 04:40:49 PM
Where's the next winner?

Does anyone wanna copy off of my test? slywink
15860  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Nintendo changes name of Revolution to..... on: April 29, 2006, 04:37:47 PM
Wow.

I mean really, where is this coming from? Is the internet ruled by people who laugh when they see the name Regina? I didn't realize Earth was synonymous with 4th grade. Wii = Piss ? The term wee-wee is reserved for "pottie training". Grow up. If you have an "outie" its called a penis, and vagina for you "innie" folks. People eat Cheese Whiz. We know what cheese is, the word whiz = piss; why in the world would you want to eat that stuff ?

Ziploc, Vicegrip, Google, Yahoo, hotmail (or is it hotMALE for you homophobes), pizza (pronounced peet-zah) and gyro (pronounced hee-row) are all  household names. We was floors with swiffers, have clappers for our lights and wash ourselves with Lufahs. Our kids play with pokemons, digimons and medabots, while we get misty-eyed over the nostalgic responses to astro-boy, transformers, GI Joe (gee-eye-joe) and Thundercats.

I don't think Dr. Seuss could compare with the words we use. Wii will be next. Suck it up, buttercup. At least it's simple enough. Maybe they should have gone with Woo or Waa.

Nintendo has never been in the electronics business; they've always been the creators of wildly successful fads. For every failed attempt (robo, virtualboy and Gamecube ... which beat the tar outta the 'box in japan) they have their Donkey Kongs, Marios, Gameboys, N64, SNES, NES. They have their PokeMons etc etc etc etc.

They have created a new product, devoid of the me-too shackles currently limiting controllers to game types (cuz hey, we all agree Mouse > joystick for FPS games). Now if we could get something better than a 2d control for 3d games, wouldn't that be nice??

I'm looking forward to Wii and the breath of fresh air it brings... even if it does remind people of urine.
15861  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / The Official GT Trader Feedback List (updated 7/30) on: April 28, 2006, 01:34:02 PM
+1 to VynlSol for Saitek Keyboard.
Awesome deal, great shipping. Highly recommended. biggrin
15862  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / I have $ 250.00 Point me to a good LCD gaming monitor? on: April 27, 2006, 09:56:57 PM
cough up double and get a 2007WFP (prev models were 2005FPW).

smile or the 24" one. (it's what I game on) biggrin
15863  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Nintendo changes name of Revolution to..... on: April 27, 2006, 09:43:55 PM
I Wiiwii wove it. Wiiwii I do. I do I do I do.


Like "Eye-Toy" is better, or the SPIDERMAN 3 errr.. PLAYSTATION 3 is a better name. Sony should release a new product called.... The Walkman! yeah. Or the Discman! Cuz hey, brand recognition is important. /sarcasm

Thing is, Nintendo is a worldwide brand. Wii (whee) is a syllable. It is going to sound the same everywhere; it's not going to beat the market share of the "Pray-shtashun tree-oh!" but it will be a popular product.

I have every confidence that this will work to their benefit. You look at it and think "Wireless" "interactive" "Simple". Some people think piss, but they're going to think that anyways. -LE- for example would be hard-pressed to give praise to any product; as a general rule he's silent when something is done right, and very vocal when it's not done to his taste. (I'm not pickin' on ya, I'm just making a point).  -LE- has demonstrated his capacity to think otherwise; but he sticks with his M.O. and continues on looking at all the glasses that are not nearly as full as they should be. There are those who would emulate such a person, except with no capacity to think. These are the people I take issue with.

In 6 months time the name will have jelled, and we will have the fun and inexpensive Wii in our living rooms. Some people don't feel the Wii has value (KD for example dropped a "wavin' my TiVo, just not feelin' it"). The market has matured, the gamers are looking to break out of the stale, and the technology is there to support it. The game-glove was a great idea, only it was 15 years too early (for both reasons listed above).

As to the wiiwii jokes, I'm sure they're going to be around for a long time. I don't mind; if I can invite a girl over to play with my Wii with me, I'm all for it. biggrin
15864  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / When will the price of gasoline change your habits? on: April 27, 2006, 03:51:05 PM
I wanted the charger with the 425hp... frown
15865  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / FFXI - Linkshell - interested? Read this, please! on: April 26, 2006, 10:17:26 PM
No character transfer service. frown

which means that *IF* they offer a migration service to a new server we would have to move to it (from Asura) and anyone's old chars from the other world. :s ... there are no new servers right now.

New char for me, it seems.
15866  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / FFXI - Impressions/General Talk on: April 26, 2006, 09:34:27 PM
Basically, you create the char and then exit. Once I can do it on the 360, I'll write up a tutorial....

the only trick is, SOME servers won't come up on rotation if they are too populated. This trick is how I got Stabbetty created on Phoenix way back when.
15867  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / When will the price of gasoline change your habits? on: April 26, 2006, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: "Eduardo X"
Quote from: "hepcat"
damn price of gas has already changed my usual routine...

...killings are down in my neighborhood by 75 percent!

  Tongue

Drive-by bike killings may rise... AS I'M INVADING WITH MY RAT PATROL GANG!

Yeah, it was almost a joke.


Can't you PEOPLE BE SERIOUS??? I mean, come ON. Driveby shootings are down ... sheesh. Yeah, RIGHT.

It's not like the cost of bullets has gone up.
15868  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / FFXI - Impressions/General Talk on: April 26, 2006, 07:40:16 PM
There is a "free" way to get onto Asura ...

go through the character creation process, and then you get to the last page, and cancel... it will let you save and tell you where it is created. Then if it's not the right one, go through it again (each time there is a chance)
15869  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / FFXI - Impressions/General Talk on: April 26, 2006, 03:15:53 PM
It's neat that gamers have gone further in directions than SQeenix was expecting... Ninja Blink tanks for instance.

They were never intended to be tanks, but with two ninja blink tanks, you don't need ANY other meat shields.
15870  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / FFXI - Linkshell - interested? Read this, please! on: April 26, 2006, 12:05:33 PM
I haven't installed it yet, however I will be bringing Stabbetty online.

I have a problem with you setting a 20 person ceiling on the LS though.... IIRC a large linkshell with great people to play with was WHY I was sucked into the game. with 20 people, how often are you going to play?
15871  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / For Sale / FT : Gamecube component Cables + extras (SOLD) on: April 25, 2006, 03:42:25 PM
Well, they cost 50bux online. (50CAD perhaps, which is ~42USD .. but they charged me an arm and two legs for shipping).
15872  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / For Sale / FT : Gamecube component Cables + extras (SOLD) on: April 25, 2006, 03:28:18 AM
I paid 50USD + shipping and more than 10USD for each battery pack.

Gouging? I don't think so.
15873  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Do current gen games look significantly worse on an HDTV? on: April 23, 2006, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: "Dante Rising"
It is a Sony KD-30XS955 CRT Television.  Several forums (AVS, for example) and a few review sites rated it as one of the very best, and probably last, series of great CRTs to be constructed by Sony.

Do I need to invest in a calibration disc? I was hoping to find a freeware one online, but I've been unsuccessful.


Monster has a new one out. The thing with Avia is they give you some color calibration sheets (think of ye ol' "3d" glasses).
15874  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Do current gen games look significantly worse on an HDTV? on: April 23, 2006, 03:47:36 PM
Something to keep in mind : 480i = free Anti Aliasing.

Do you see why I'm not a graphics whore, but I hate cutting my eyes on the PS2's jaggies?
15875  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Garry's mod to be commercial on: April 23, 2006, 03:45:57 PM
links, dammit, LINKS!
15876  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Katherine Heigl: Hot no matter what (56K) on: April 23, 2006, 03:42:55 PM
this one made sunday skin a few weeks ago:

hot-while-showin'plumbers-crack  (aka someone get that wench a wrench)
15877  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / For Sale / FT : Gamecube component Cables + extras (SOLD) on: April 23, 2006, 03:37:12 PM
I have a PC and a 360, trades welcome. PM me with offers.
15878  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / For Sale / FT : Gamecube component Cables + extras (SOLD) on: April 23, 2006, 03:33:50 PM
Hey there... I've got these used official Nintendo Gamecube component cables for sale; they run for ~90USD on ebay (+shipping cost).

BUT WAIT! You ask why so expensive? What is SO GREAT about this? Let me tell you friends, these cables can make you see THROUGH TIME!* That's not all though!! If you have an older gamecube with a digital port, it will let you play games in progressive scan (as long as they support it; see Gaming Trend Search engine (cube & 480p) or HDTV Arcade for a list of supported games.

What's that? I can do better than 90 bux? 3 easy payments of 30USD is too hard? How about just two easy payments (made at the same time, of course)!That's right folks, just 60USD (plus shipping) for the cables!

Now, I know you're reaching for your wallet, and I'd be a MADMAN to give you more, but here goes.... I'll even throw in not one, but TWO wavebird battery packs and charging cables!! That's right folks!

You get 2 wavebird battery packs and their cables, and a 90USD(per ebay sales) cable for the low low price of 60USD + shipping!!!

Hurry, supplies are limited (to 1 deal).


man.... i GOTTA stop watching late-night info-mercials!

*See through time: one second at a time, and it all happens LIVE, right before your eyes!! Results may vary, especially with users who have in any way have damaged eyesight.

Update : sold to Graham
15879  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / *****PRE-E3 CONTEST MONTH***** Oblivion 2ND WINNER ANNOUNCED on: April 23, 2006, 03:13:33 PM
**ahem** WOOT!!!!!
15880  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / [HOTTIES] Mueller Invitational *NSFW* on: April 21, 2006, 11:30:08 AM
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1) Paris Hilton is even in this list
2) She's a NINE seed.

If this was March Madness, there'd be blood spilling right now.



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