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15681  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: real newbie question regarding TV, TDU and X360 on: September 06, 2006, 02:09:59 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on September 06, 2006, 01:30:32 PM

My brother's 360 is hooked up to a standard A/V input (obviously an SDTV).  He hasn't gotten around to buying an S-Video cable yet.

With the exception of nigh-illegible text in Dead Rising, the graphics are still phenomenal.  You can't really tell in PGR3 (honestly I was more impressed with Gran Turismo 3 than PGR3) but Chromehounds looks spectacular, as does Dead Rising.  And the sheer amount of stuff that can be happening onscreen in Saint's Row is pretty stunning too, even if the graphics are a step down from other 360 titles.

and THATS the difference between HD and SD TV.  PGR3 is head and shoulders above DR, GTR3 and Chromehounds. Chromehounds on HD actually shows many more flaws; SD hides some of it (not to take away from the game, but it isn't the most polished game).
15682  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: September 06, 2006, 01:30:46 AM

Quote from: CrayolaSmoker on September 05, 2006, 09:15:59 PM

...and I'll show you a kid who likes their bacon RAW.
15683  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] $600 console includes no video cables? on: September 06, 2006, 01:23:02 AM

Quote from: gellar on September 05, 2006, 08:26:19 PM

Quote from: jblank on September 05, 2006, 08:13:21 PM

Dude, we just showed you a site where a 3 foot cable is what, 5 bucks? It would cost Sony under a dollar per unit I am sure.

Again, the difference is that a lot of people are buying the PS3 for the BR potential of it and Sony is using this as their vehicle to really push the product. Why not do all you can, as a company, to make sure that out of the box it will do what is needed to show off their BR technology.

I'm not pissed about it, just flabbergasted at how you guys are willing to pay 600 dollars for something that we think is incomplete.

$1 per unit, assuming they sell... say 1 mil units is... $1,000,000.  Not a small chunk of change to save if they can.

And again, it's no more incomplete than not having an optical cable.  Or even worse, it doesn't even have a GAME.  How can they sell a gaming system WITHOUT A BLOODY GAME?  THE OUTRAGE.  How the hell can they show off the system's gaming capabilities without a game to play on it?!?!  Oh wait, they've been doing that for years.

* gellar remembers that his SNES came with Super Mario Brothers!

* purge remembers paying an extra 50bux for SMB & Duck hunt when all he wanted was the console for Zelda

Game content is subjected to taste. CABLES is CABLES. Optical cables aren't the defacto standard; there is SPDIF and 6 channel cables. As to video connections, there's HDMI, component and svideo/composite. DVI is dead and so is coaxial. Now, when I buy me a power supply without cables, or you know, a skipping rope without a rope, or a toaster without toast  saywhat .... wait, scratch that last one. What we're trying to say is, if they're going to charge and extra hundred dollars and say "zOMG I R IN URZ HOUSE STEALIN U R WALLET!!" they could at least cough up the cable.

by your math, that would be HDMI market penetration into 1 million households. Oh, and that 1 million units means 600,000,000 dollars. That's without games, extra controllers, yadda yadda. See if I cry for them. They could have dropped the media reader. I mean FUCK, that's at least 15 bux; they could have made a USB snap-on one and sold it to the 300 people who will actually USE it at a markup rather than bundling it and adding to the normal losses associated with a console.
15684  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Crikey! Croc Hunter Killed on: September 05, 2006, 08:16:49 PM

Quote from: warning on September 05, 2006, 01:48:45 PM

Quote from: Tals on September 05, 2006, 12:02:57 PM

For the record the baby in the crocodile pen as I understand it was something of a tradition for his family - he had the same thing done to him when he was a baby.

He seemed likable but slightly nutty.  I respect a lot of what he did but that's one bizarre tradition.  I can't imagine bringing my newborn baby into a pen with a predator.

Cats and dogs are.... vegetarian? "Tame" is a subjective term. slywink

GameOverMan, that comment hardly proves your point. He's been bitten by snakes etc and he wants it on film as he's likely to die likely to live (what the f-bomb was I thinking??). The context of that comment is bad. Who knows when he said that. I'd hate to be judged by comments I made 10 years ago.
15685  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] $600 console includes no video cables? on: September 05, 2006, 03:17:12 PM

Quote from: jblank on September 05, 2006, 12:45:59 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on September 05, 2006, 12:41:28 PM

Quote from: Purge on September 05, 2006, 12:08:59 PM

Oh, and 1080p requires 2 HDMI connections,

?  First I've read of that.  Where did you see that at? 

It's not true, ignore that.

Some facts:

Q. What version of HDMI does a consumer need to view 1080p content?
In addition, many of today’s 1080p HDTVs support only 720p or 1080i on the HDMI input, then perform video processing to up-convert the 720p/1080i signal to 1080p. This is now changing, as 1080p content is becoming increasingly available, and HDTVs fully supporting 1080p in the display and HDMI electronics have begun to reach the market in early 2006.

All versions of HDMI are backward compatible. Consumers should not look for a particular version of HDMI, but rather for the functionality that they want the device to support (SACD, 1080p, etc.).

My bad; I was mixxed up with the Type B connector (29pin vs the Type A which is 19pin) which is for higher-than-1080p I missread the > to mean => and thusly jumped to the false conclusion that Dual-HDMI's was to overcome the bandwidth limitation.

That FAQ is wacked though, it doesn't REALLY answer the question, and they degrade their answer by using "upconvert". When I went looking to find where I had mistaken the dual-HDMI requirement for bandwidth, I found some info that indicates most 1080i content is capable of displaying at 1080p using the correct 3:2 pulldown. That's where the "upconvert" they mention comes into play.

??? this makes me wonder, as that is a degraded image, right? I mean, 1080p is 2x the bandwidth of 1080i (interlacing drops half a frame); saying that 1080p using a 1080i signal run through 3:2 means you're getting 75% of the picture that a true 1080p signal is pushing into the set. (3:2 pulldown means you're using 2 full frames of data to display 3 frames) Right? saywhat

Also, how does the PS3 still support 1080p video on the base model (use the Sony FAQ link above, select #2) and NOT have HDMI??
15686  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (9/4) on: September 05, 2006, 02:43:10 PM
15687  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] $600 console includes no video cables? on: September 05, 2006, 12:08:59 PM

Quote from: Tustin1 on September 04, 2006, 11:29:45 PM

Quote from: Thin_J on September 04, 2006, 11:24:58 PM

Leave it to sony to find yet another way to give their potential customers the finger.

Yeah, damn those bastards for saving those who don't need an HDMI cable a couple of bucks, those sick sons of....

*they* are the ones putting HDMI front-and-centre.

Oh, and 1080p requires 2 HDMI connections, FWIW. When they say no HD cables, they mean no HD cables. That would mean no analog monitor cable, component, DVI or HD cables (or BnC). Saves you money, right? I could see them pulling this, there aren't THAT MANY HD sets compared to low-def TVs. This means they're giving you what everyone else has, and makes you pay more for the HD stuff (which WILL have markup).

But the two HDMI ports, AND the multi card reader built in? That's shit EVERYONE needs. (multi-card readers run ~15USD for the no-name ones; adding HDMI ports for people who have a 1080p capable set is catering to less than 1% of the current market base; MAYBE 2-3% by the end of the PS3 lifecycle). Oh, and as it has already been mentioned, there's the BR player which has questionable worth ...

Yeah, they're just savin' you money, bud.

15688  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Crikey! Croc Hunter Killed on: September 05, 2006, 02:03:14 AM

Quote from: gameoverman on September 04, 2006, 11:38:50 PM

honestly mean no disrespect to the guy.  It's just I get puzzled by statements about how he did so much for animals(which even if he did, he follows a LONG line of people who were doing that way before him, Wild Kingdom anyone?), AND how sad for his family people are AND what a great guy/dad he was.

Um, whose fault is it that his kids have no dad?  Whose fault is it that his wife is a widow?  Who took a baby into a croc pen, turning serious animal work into a sideshow?

The guy did some incredible things, no doubt.  He entertained Jebus knows how many people around the globe, no doubt.  But the same way Marlin Perkins let Jim Fowler do all the heavy lifting, once Irwin had kids he should have guarded his health and order for me to think he's anything more than a very successful attention whore.

K, I call bullshit. You *DO* mean to disrespect.

The whole "baby and the croc" crap is dead. He apologized to the world for it. Try a different perspective other than your own; he was WRONG to do what he did, but he was, in fact, exposing his child to the world he lives in, much like a farmer has his kids around animals... and farm animals can be more deadly than a well-fed croc.

He did more than "entertain". He wasn't a sideshow act that did juggling. He took you along on a world of discovery outside the drywalled interiors and showed you what it was like outside. Fuck Grande Lattes; watching him help tag and release giraffes in a conservation park was a real rush. He brought nature front - and - center to the idiot-box sitting in everyone's livingroom.

Show some goddamned respect for the recently deceased. A whore indeed.  retard
15689  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: DVD Collection Blowout!! on: September 04, 2006, 02:01:00 AM
dibs on FF:TSW .. waiting on rest of collection for single shipment.
15690  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Are you the destroyer of threads? [Possibly NSFW] on: September 02, 2006, 03:14:21 AM

Quote from: Arkon on September 01, 2006, 11:19:01 AM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on September 01, 2006, 09:43:39 AM

Quote from: Thin_J on September 01, 2006, 09:13:23 AM

You deserve death.

The painful kind.  The kind that involves squishing.  I'm gonna go ahead and curl into the fetal position now, kthanks.   retard

Don't you think that is overreacting just a wee bit, I mean sure the chick on the bike has a tanline, but perhaps she can't sunbathe nude.


yer right. If she did, she'd have everyone on the west coast throwing wet towels on her and trying to push her back in the ocean.
15691  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: EA Employee - 360 failure rate between 30%-50% on: September 01, 2006, 12:07:50 PM
Quote from: ChaoZ
You yourself admit that you have had at least one system not perform to specifications and another failed by your own fault. Whether or not you are satisfied is immaterial. Others who have not purchased an extended warranty (which people SHOULDN'T have to buy) won't be so lucky. Design fault or production fault is up for debate.

Your argument about ID-10T users doesn't fly. The Gamecube and even the original Xbox were solid systems (with the exception of the Thompson drives). It's a consumer product and should be built as such. They SHOULD be able to plug shit in and expect it to work. The Xbox360 is a product you should expect KIDS and the non-technologically inclined to use. It's designed so it's easier to use than a computer.

One game, which I didn't bother to retest. It was Oblivion and it was chugging heavy. I didn't even clear the cache.

ONe thing gamers don't do is read manuals.
Also, on the internet reports, not all of MS's customers are on the internet.
15692  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Just recently got a 360 and I need some help. Plz help me! on: August 31, 2006, 09:11:32 PM
use ebay to find the wireless adapter if you're planning on getting the 360 one. I have it, it rocks, but they charge too much for it.
15693  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What is the greatest threat to humanities existence and why? A jblank poll. on: August 31, 2006, 07:39:42 PM

Quote from: warning on August 31, 2006, 04:59:56 PM

*warning thinks the greatest threat to humanity is gellar referring to himself in third person and typing in red

At least he ain't refering to himself in third person as an object. Eg: The Gellar thinks this thread will destroy humanity.
15694  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Should I continue trying to woo my boss? *picture time* on: August 31, 2006, 03:14:36 PM

Quote from: Semaj on August 31, 2006, 12:33:18 AM

4) No matter what happens in my love life, I can come on here and see how you are doing and realise it cant be all that bad...  icon_biggrin
15695  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Battlefield 2142: In game ads! on: August 31, 2006, 02:38:27 PM

Quote from: siege on August 31, 2006, 01:52:49 PM

Quite frankly, it should bother you. Why you may be able to ignore advertisements, it's the principle of the matter. You will have paid your $50 for the product, while EA is making even more money by shoving adverts in your face.

If we get to a point where we have to PAY to be advertised to, I simply won't buy anything.

Cable television.
(Doh! Kobra mentioned it)
15696  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New PS3/PSP Info (Who is this guy?) on: August 31, 2006, 02:31:25 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on August 31, 2006, 04:43:14 AM

Quote from: warning on August 31, 2006, 03:23:47 AM

Quote from: Dante Rising on August 31, 2006, 02:33:16 AM

I really don't think the disc limitations will affect Microsoft until the end of the lifecycle. Most games will just move to 2 DVDs if necessary, and that will still be cheaper than producing 1 blu-ray disc. I never had a problem <GASP!> switching to the second disc on resident Evil 4 for the Gamecube.

Which is fine for a more or less linear game like Resident Evil 4.  But what about something like Oblivion?  Exactly where would you switch a disk?  Have one half of the map be one disc and the other half be disc 2?  For an open, non-linear game multiple discs would be a huge annoyance.
It wouldn't be that hard, just have an obvious east/west divide on the game map.  With a map like World of Warcraft, for instance, you just have a different disc for each continent.  If you want a less severe divide, just make sure you have a neutral zone between discs (that is on both discs) so it isn't possible to switch back and forth if you happen to travel straddling the line.

15697  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: EA Employee - 360 failure rate between 30%-50% on: August 31, 2006, 02:16:57 PM

Quote from: ChaoZ on August 31, 2006, 01:39:49 PM

Now, if we take the assumption that failure rates are at 30%, can we come up with some reasons why there are no class action suits?

1. Microsoft has been good about providing service... so far.
2. Most units are failing before the warranty period is up, and MS is even offering service to some outside warranty (whereas the Sony "Read Error" problem happened to most outside of warranty)
3. People are only now starting to realize that a lot of people's units are failing as well, gathering reliable information about failure rates is difficult.
4. Coverage of the topic is also minimal because of #3. Also, coverage of video games has always been minimal in the mass media.
5. People who fault the reliability of the Xbox 360 are immediately branded as Sony fanboys.

Besides, if you hear Microsoft say the failure rates are under 3% and you hear 4-5 of your friends say they returned the system, who would you believe more?

Any more than Sony saying their installed customer base is over 100Million since they've shipped that many, when I know people who have gone through 3-4 machines with full-on hardware failures (Drives not reading disks, etc)?

1) Correction: MS has been excellent with service (40,000 foot view, not saying they haven't had problems). They have had a commitment to that service since Xbox1.
2) Speculative at best. Where is "MOST" coming from? You state all people are within warranty, and those outside warranty are being supported as if they ARE covered? ... how is this a bad thing were it true?
3) "People are only now" - once again, this is subjective and not at all a disputable point. Most people think red looks more like blue than green. Gathering of failure rates is in fact, VERY easy. When systems are returned to GameStop/ Babbages/EB Games/Costco/etc.. where do you think they go? Back on the shelves? They're shipped back to the mfgr/vendor for repair/salvage/refurb so they can then use them as replacement units for future hardware failures. With every unit costing over 400 bux, you're telling me the vendor (MS in this case) isn't watching this closely? Do you seriously think with all the levels of management people wouldn't be having their walking papers handed to them for allowing the company to lose money hand over fist for poor management of their resources? MS still answers to their stock-holders; this isn't some closed system where no one is interested in the facts.
4) Coverage in media is minimal?  saywhat You mean to tell me HotCoffee wasn't noticed? All the grandstanding by US government officials isn't in the news every other week? The demonization of video gaming is very much alive and well. Oh, and Microsoft is one of the largest companies in the world. A world-wide product launch failure rate of more than 10% is likely to garner just a bit of bad press. Not just in Local / National, but also in the financial news.
5) Sony fanboys ARE touting this info to try to sway the people within their realm of influence away from a product that has been on the market for almost a year now. They fall within the group maintaining a 1:3 to even 1:2 hardware failure ratio.

As a person who does tech support (and has done so for both internal and public user base), let me tell you that PEBKAC, ID-10t users is a bigger cause of problems than products themselves. People don't read manuals, they just plug shit in and expect it to work as THEY see fit to use it. In this case it's not the non-tech people who have a problem; it's the know-it-all tech people. The ones who've owned other consoles, and like LE stated, treated them less like the delicate hardware they are. The non-tech people are more likely to read the manual since they're outside their comfort zone.

The counter to the % statisticr is that since MS is so lienient in its warranty, people take advantage of it. I, for instance, have cashed in on my extended warranty twice already, just because I could. The first time was due to my 360 making noise (my house was under construction and the 360 was subjected to significant amounts of drywall dust) and the second time was just because it was running slow with a game. I didn't try any other games out; I didn't care much to. I also wanted to take out the ext. warranty again so that when they redesign (or release a new 360 with HD-DVD) that i can cash in on it in a year. It's a grey area of abusing the warranty, but the fact is that my first 360 with a can of air and laying on it's side instead of upright would still be working fine for me today. I am a VERY satisfied MS customer, and know (after being through 3 systems and having one since november, 2005) that it is a sound product.
15698  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Enchant Arm RPG (360) has multiplayer on: August 30, 2006, 10:51:57 PM

Quote from: depward on August 30, 2006, 07:43:21 PM

Nono, I got that call too Jarrod but I just picked up my copy at 12:30 here in Portland.  LIES I TELL YOU!  So give your store a call.

I like the box - it's kind of like DDS1's box sort of thing, except it's a little skinner to accomodate the 48 page manga thing.  Fairly weak instruction manual though - no color, only 19 pages.

Were they nice enough to wrap it in an unmarked brown paper package to hide the contents for you?  ninja

On a side-note: Can we get a :ninjafag: tag with a ninja smiley with a flower tucked into the mask? KTHANX.
15699  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: EA Employee - 360 failure rate between 30%-50% on: August 30, 2006, 10:47:45 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on August 30, 2006, 08:01:09 PM

Maybe EA just makes their 360s work 80 hour weeks with no overtime pay and crappy woking conditions. 

I actually starting laughing out loud. Rare, that.
15700  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New PS3/PSP Info (Who is this guy?) on: August 30, 2006, 02:32:41 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on August 30, 2006, 02:14:35 PM

Following the link is hilarious.  You forgot to include the guy's disclaimer, corrupt--

Note: This post is by no means unbiased. I make no warranty that what I have to say will not piss you off – especially if you’re a one-company fanboy whore. I’ll answer questions and I'll share what I know… but I’m not going to argue with the retards lurking in the Games forum shadows… especially when I am way more informed than you are*. Believe that or not (it's a fact), I don’t give a flying fuck what some pimple faced punk in the digital jungle thinks. This is a favor for those who appreciate it. Hence, if you do not appreciate inside information, then do us all a favor and fuck off.

How mature.  I'm inclined not to get a PS3 just to spite this fuckwit.

With lines like the one bolded above, you'd think it's Kutaragi himself droppin' this inside info... okay, maybe not. It's probably gone through their Superliminal Message Creator that is in charge of PR.
15701  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saints Row Impressions...b1#$@! on: August 30, 2006, 02:11:01 PM

Quote from: juniordan on August 29, 2006, 07:47:16 PM

One thing I forgot to mention. The AI don't act like you the only person in the game. Cops will defend them selves against the nearest treat with no regards to which gang your on.
I was  being chased by one gang, when the cops disabled their car, then disarmed them before sending back up after me.
In a fire fight cop will take cover behind any solid object and shot at any treat, or any one with a weapon. This is very good
One time I was been fired upon so I ran across a cop who attacked the gangmember who was chasing me. After he took him out I figured I was next. NOPE I was a victim of a senseless crime been defended by the city finest.  nod

We were promised proof-read posts.
Worse than selling drugs; you be a LIAR, yo.
15702  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Enchant Arm RPG (360) has multiplayer on: August 30, 2006, 11:39:09 AM

Quote from: depward on August 29, 2006, 06:52:05 PM

Quote from: Arkon on August 29, 2006, 11:04:10 AM

Quote from: depward on August 29, 2006, 06:32:25 AM

Quote from: denoginizer on August 28, 2006, 10:41:45 PM

Quote from: Kobra on August 23, 2006, 07:26:26 PM

HOLY CRAP, they should rename this "Enchanted Gays"..

Anyoine see the videos of this game???

I'm speachless...

Is that real?  Nobody is going to buy that game.  I am surprised that they went with that angle.  I guess most JRPGs tip toe the gayness line.  But that thing puts on high heels and struts on it.
I'm going to buy it.

Same here.  One thing I wonder, do you have to use that character at all?  There are supposed to be a ton of characters you can recruit.
Apparently he serves to be a valuable character for your party.  He's apparently (hahaha) the best healer and such in the game... imagine that.

He must be a head surgeon.
15703  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Are you the destroyer of threads? [Possibly NSFW] on: August 29, 2006, 12:54:13 PM
You people need humility. You need humour... you need...


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15704  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] SFII patch released on: August 29, 2006, 12:38:37 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on August 29, 2006, 12:05:00 PM

Congratulations on your ranking Hark! 

Well done!

You pulled that outta your personal collection of effeminate men? Just wait, Enchanted Arms has got JUST the character for you.  nod
15705  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Xbox 360 Backward Compatibility Update on: August 29, 2006, 12:36:47 PM
Phantom Dust, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Otagi 1 & 2, Pyschonauts, and Oddworld:SW are still MIA for me.
15706  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (8/28) on: August 28, 2006, 04:16:08 PM
Hurk. Enchant ARM [eM] was almost a guarantee until I saw that guy-shaped-woman with the penis.  saywhat
"I's jussssst tooooo strooooonnnngggg!!"  eek

Saints Row would be a maybe if I were starving for games to play. I've never been a GTA gamestyle fan; they just get old quick. I played GTA, Vice City, Spiderman, Hulk:UD etc and I never get more than half-way through.
15707  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Are you the destroyer of threads? [Possibly NSFW] on: August 28, 2006, 04:10:00 PM

Quote from: Arkon on August 28, 2006, 03:10:22 PM

Quote from: Purge on August 28, 2006, 03:06:21 PM

In the interests of not letting this thread waste 10! pages, let's get it  locked locked

I think Purge needs Arkon banned just for the suggestion of locking this thread.

Grammar correction completed. Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.
15708  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Are you the destroyer of threads? [Possibly NSFW] on: August 28, 2006, 03:06:21 PM
In the interests of not letting this thread waste 10! pages, let's get it  locked locked
15709  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Random BSOD's are going to drive me insane on: August 28, 2006, 02:42:04 PM

Quote from: Kobra on August 27, 2006, 03:15:06 AM

I respectfully disagree about onboard audio.

I recently REMOVED all of the Audigy cards from my machines, and went back to Onboard audio.  I noticed fairly uncommon and random crashes in some games when the audigy cards were in, I traced MOST of the crashes down to sound related (yes, the drivers were updated).  Removed the cards, in 2 weeks running with onboard sound none of my machines has had a single crash.

One thing I do know is that at 4 different software developers I worked for, almost all of their testing machines used onboard sound.  Stardock for example, was almost entirely made up of Dell's with AC97 sound chips.  (and this isn't uncommon)  So I think it is safe to assume AC97 and other onboard platforms are probably the most tested among developers. From this point forward, I am sticking to onboard sound, saving $$$, and having better stability as a result. The rallying cry of onboard sound sucking up massive system resources needs to be laid to rest.  These days, onboard sound only consumes 1-3% of the total CPU power under intense sound.  Thats 37mhz on a 3.7Ghz machine, big deal.

The X-FI, well, that opens another can of worms. ... wheres the exhaustive proof of this? This is a link to a subjective article with no proven "Facts". Is there another catalyst that is causing these issues? As to driver updates, I concur that Creative is one damned slow company to release them, though. The rest of it I'd need to see to believe. I don't know where this mass coverage of X-FI not working came from, this is the first I've heard of it.

As to onboard audio here's a link to different onboard chips head-to-head: ... 31% on the Realtek chip.  eek

They've gotten better (Jan 3, 2006 article) in the nForce 4 SLI bargain head-to-head  however :
Quote from: the conclusion
In the on-board audio area, the Asus and Foxconn boards utilize the Realtek ALC850 while the Albatron board utilizes the Realtek ALC655 codec. The audio output of these codecs in the music, video, and gaming areas is sub-par while performance in games is decent. If you plan on playing on-line or value audio quality, we highly suggest a dedicated sound card at this time, but the onboard capabilities of these chipsets will satisfy the majority of office users.

Heres some more recent audio comparison graphs : .

I have no use for a sub-par product even if it comes at a "free" cost. I'd rather pay less for my mainboard then to pay for sound I won't use.

Also, I speak from experience. My past onboard audio has caused me to have BSOD's. As soon as I turned it off they went away (I had it on for the CD player on option)

15710  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Just recently got a 360 and I need some help. Plz help me! on: August 28, 2006, 01:36:19 PM
Turn off the uPnP function on the router. then retry the connection through it.
15711  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Resistance to take up 22gb? [PS3] on: August 28, 2006, 01:33:00 PM
I betcha they don't reuse ANY code... like how doors open. slywink Each hinge is carefully crafted from a CTRL-C / CTRL-V function.
15712  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: 2GB Memory Stick Duo - $35 shipped on: August 28, 2006, 03:46:10 AM
I too am interested. Send me a PM with details
15713  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Random BSOD's are going to drive me insane on: August 27, 2006, 03:02:56 AM
are you using a tin-can power supply? I would suspect that.

Oh, and get the fuck off of the onboard audio. Not only does it not work well (it eats system resources like a fat kid in the Wonka factory) but they tend to not do so well in the driver side.

Get an X-FI soundcard if you can; otherwise get an Audigy 2 (the 4's are repackaged 2s...); or go non-creative. Just. Get. Off. The. Onboard. Audio.

Hell, try disabling it in the BIOS and then playing for an hour.

Also, we should know what sorts of settings you have in the BIOS... what's turned on, what's turned off, etc.
15714  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Just recently got a 360 and I need some help. Plz help me! on: August 26, 2006, 10:38:35 PM
  • Try directly to the cable modem (just in testing) to identify it.  360 <---->DSL / Cable Modem <-----> Intarweeb.
  • Some ISPs have been identified as having problems with Live (such as MTS here in manitoba). Check with them or at least their FAQs
  • TURN OFF uPnP on your router. That does 16 different shades of fucked up to network operability.
  • is an awesome resource for config questions.

If you want feedback on config; please post your info on who you connect through, your hardware and you lan setup. biggrin
15715  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Battlefield 2142 beta begins. on: August 26, 2006, 03:50:20 AM
Wow. take it personally.

Your thread was "imminent" not OPEN NOW. I wanted to make sure that people didn't miss it in case there was a time limit.
15716  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Hardware upgrades, smashes head against wall. on: August 25, 2006, 03:18:20 PM
I've got a hand-me-down for ya (my first "PC" running Hyperion OS, then DOS 1.1)

Plays Sopwith 1 like a summ'bitch ... black and white though.. biggrin
15717  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Battlefield 2142 beta imminent. on: August 25, 2006, 03:05:11 PM
I started a new thread to draw attention to the beta test.
15718  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / BETA : BATTLEFIELD 2142 open on FilePlanet (Sub only) right now!! on: August 25, 2006, 03:03:06 PM
Just a heads up for those who missed codes last week.

The year is 2142,
and the dawn of a new Ice age has thrown the world into a panic. The math is simple and brutal: The soil not covered by ice can only feed a fraction of the Earth’s population. Some will live, most will die.

In Battlefield 2142, players will choose to fight for one of two military superpowers in an epic battle for survival, the European Union or the newly formed Pan Asian Coalition. Armed with a devastating arsenal of hi-tech assault rifles, cloaking devices and sentry guns, players will also do battle using some of the most imposing vehicles known to man. Massive battle Mechs wage fierce combat on the ground, while futuristic aircraft rule the skies. When facing one of these new behemoths, players will need to use their wits and an arsenal of new countermeasures like EMP grenades to level the playing field.

  • Titan Mode - Wage epic-scale war to defeat your opponent’s Titan, a massive flying warship, controlled by the team’s commander. Players must destroy the Titan’s shields, board the craft, fight to its reactor core and detonate it from the inside – all while defending their own Titan.

  • 64-Players Online* - Experience all-out war with Battlefield’s legendary multiplayer for up to 64 players.

  • Real-Time Persistence - To the victor goes the spoils! Equipment, medals and other rewards are awarded in-game and in real time. Choose an unlock and have access to it immediately next time you spawn. The game features five times more unlocks than Battlefield 2.

  • Customisable Abilities - Gamers can expand their abilities and blend multiple player classes to match their play-style.

  • Lethal Vehicles - Gamers control menacing Battle Walkers that stalk the land and futuristic gunships that patrol the skies. APC’s and high-speed recon vehicles keep the action fast, furious and unpredictable.

  • High-Tech Weaponry - EMP grenades, sentry guns, smart mines, cloaking devices, and more change the rules of the Battlefield forever.

  • The world has changed - Fight for survival on the Battlefield of the 22nd century in brand new locations from Minsk to North Africa as the ice presses down from the North.

Go get some, Soldier!

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15719  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NEW TEAM FORTRESS 2 TRAILER!!!! on: August 25, 2006, 01:11:34 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on August 25, 2006, 04:01:49 AM

The only thing I didn't like is that it looked like the bullets coming out of the heavy gunner's weapon were going all over the place.  I can understand some spreading and innacurracy, but that looked nearly impossible to aim skillfully. 

Uhm, I think you may have missed the point of the Heavy. Were he to aim that thing, he'd have to go prone, as it's a freakin' Vulcan! No, my friend, that is not a precise tool of destruction, it is a spray and pray.

Did you see how many people he killed with it? Also, when the scout is running you see it in use there as well.
15720  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Enchant Arm RPG (360) has multiplayer on: August 25, 2006, 01:06:16 PM

Quote from: Destructor on August 24, 2006, 01:47:35 PM


Every game has their...interesting characters, and apparently this is this game's character.

I'm disturbed that this forum has an icon that says "Go Down". In light of this context, I'd like it removed.

Replacing it with "Go straight to the bottom" isn't any better. That is all.
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