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15361  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] Oh boy.....this could get real ugly.... on: October 31, 2006, 10:09:58 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on October 31, 2006, 09:52:02 PM

So, will any of you who make a profit on the PS3 actually report the income to the IRS and pay the appropriate taxes?   icon_twisted

I think selling something for $1500 as some people have wouldn't easily fly under the radar for taxes.

You are auctioning it off privately. There are no sales tax; it's not considered income. You are selling non-registered properties. Tongue
15362  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] Oh boy.....this could get real ugly.... on: October 31, 2006, 09:10:46 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 31, 2006, 07:50:39 PM

And I think ticket scalping is usually legal as long as you're not doing it within X feet of the event.

You CAN sell tickets in front of events on the condition that your price does not exceed the sell value of the ticket. (so if you're stuck and can't attend, you can sell them in front of a sold-out show).

Quote from: wonderpug on October 31, 2006, 07:50:39 PM

You were saying that selling PS3s on ebay is different than ticket scalping because you don't sell for over retail on ebay.  My point is that you probably are going to sell your PS3 for more than retail.  If there's a difference between PS3 ebaying and scalping, I don't think that's it.

The point of scalping is to set an over-inflated price, and force buyers into that price. Auctioning off a product during a boom season is no more immoral than buying auction products for less than retail prices.

Sitting in line to DO that, if anything, would be considered the morally reprehenisble action. Then you have to think about why they're doing that. The person waiting in line for the system is anticipating an entertainment (not a necessity) so by "taking a place in line" is no less important than doing so to anticipate payback for product value equal to that of a rare item.

If we were talking about denying a necessity, then there would be moral consequences (in my mind).

Quote from: wonderpug on October 31, 2006, 07:50:39 PM

You've brought up the comic book/collectible argument before, but I think that's a different situation because time has increased the rarity of the item which in turn has increased the value.  Action Comics #1 wasn't rare and valuable when you bought it.
Your real estate argument is a much stronger point.

I strongly disagree with dismissing the comic book comparison. What determines the market value for the comic book? Availability.
25 cents when it's in print, $400 in 20 years. Does holding the product for so long create the value based on ownership? What if I were to buy said comic from an uneducated person in a garage sale for 50cents? They've made a 100% profit; I then go and makk 399.50 on that purchase. Time value had no play in that. Am I bad?

Property is more valid because it's a larger value item? Is the property purchased in the auspice that I were to move there less reprehenible than if I were to buy it knowing it would be worth more and just sat on it, or rented it out until it gained what I deemed to be a target state market value?

The PS3 is property, so is the comic book. The fact that some people sit on gold-mines and don't profit from it doesn't add a nobility over those who are shrewd with their opportunities.
Quote from: wonderpug
But why are the B&M shops mandated to stick to MSRP?  The fact that they are required to follow "fair trade" regulations implies that to act otherwise would be "unfair."  Why are they given a mandate and contractual obligations to conform with distribution guidelines, and why does that reasoning not extend to the ebay sellers?

Because Sony would be hung out to dry if they were to allow retailers (with official distribution chains) to go above the MSRP in the north american market. In Japan it is very different. They've already taken PR punches for the MSRP.

Quote from: wonderpug on October 31, 2006, 07:50:39 PM

put, but the question that arises is: Why is profiteering wrong for necessities but ok for luxuries?  Just because you "need" that particular food or gas?  There are certainly other ways to feed or transport yourself. 
Um, food is a necessity. Transportation isn't. The government regulates gas prices in an effort to prevent collusion (which, by it's very nature is anti-market value). The price of oil dictates the fluctuation of gas prices. It is NOT a necessity.
15363  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Halo movie a no go on: October 31, 2006, 06:28:34 PM
You're no fun.

Ok. Mortal Kombat Armageddon. The plot-holes are so big you could toss a camel through em.
15364  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] Oh boy.....this could get real ugly.... on: October 31, 2006, 06:22:18 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 31, 2006, 04:06:07 PM

So then why doesn't EB, Best Buy, and Walmart start charging $1500 for PS3s in the first few months?  And whatever that reason is, why doesn't it apply to the ebay sellers?

Because when you buy from a B&M shop, they've generally been given a mandate to sell it at MSRP (and have contractual obligations to conform with distribution guidelines).

Mom-n-Pop places (like independant shops that get through a distributer) are not required to conform to the same practices as they don't have the same pull to get stock, or the same guidelines. If Sony were to contact ME and tell me I had 12 PS3's coming to my place to ebay and that I could only sell it for MSRP and they gave me margin for profit from cost vs. MSRP, then I would be setting up a buy-it-now option or be crushed like Lik-Sang.  Tongue

Next up : EBAY is an AUCTION HOUSE debate. Which means supply vs demand = price  ... not RETAIL.  nod
15365  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: G.o.W. on: October 31, 2006, 06:14:13 PM
Does that mean I should be killing myself then? I'm sure Meriam would be dissapointed if I kept throwing myself on my own grenades.  nod What else could she use her ammo up on then? Enemy AI?
15366  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Considering a 360 vs P3 on: October 31, 2006, 03:15:06 AM
No, you need a VGA adapter cable. It comes with components which will work for you on a high-def TV.
As I understand it, the best place to buy a 360 state-side is in Costco for their return policy.

Use Ebay to get yourself the vga adapter. or Play-Asia.
15367  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: THANK YOU one and all on: October 31, 2006, 03:11:21 AM
Glad to see you up and running. Now if swapping out hardware were the easy way to fix all the problems, eh?

I wish you and your family the best.  thumbsup
15368  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] Oh boy.....this could get real ugly.... on: October 31, 2006, 03:04:41 AM
Yes, however by distributing across the world, they've created this mayhem.

I mean, if Winnipeg is getting 300+ units of the 400,000 NA releases, and there are 70million PS2 owners, it stands to reason that anyone who can get something as rare and in demand will step up to do it.
It isn't moral depravity; it is called being an opportunist. For someone somewhere who wanted it bad enough to buy it at the inflated price it's a pill they've chosen to swallow. PS3 is entertainment. It ain't saving anyones life.

Sony (the retard) shouldn't actually LAUNCH the console until they have enough stock to reasonably meet the demand ... but hey, they need the christmas season right? I mean, the 500k they're selling are keeping them afloat, right? They wouldn't sell out just as fast if they had, oh I don't know, started selling them AFTER christmas with a "save your cash" advertising campaign during the holidays.
15369  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Xbox 360 Dashboard Update on: October 31, 2006, 02:49:08 AM
I'm guessing it will do MPG2 as well. Basically anything the Media Center extender would do.
15370  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Considering a 360 vs P3 on: October 31, 2006, 02:45:23 AM
2007WFP doesn't have component in (or HDMI for that matter). So either DVI-D or VGA. I would go with the 360; frankly you're getting next-gen and you're not paying for the BluRay player.

15371  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Xbox 360 Dashboard Update on: October 30, 2006, 09:12:51 PM
Stream WMV video from a Windows PC running Windows Media Player 11, Zune software, or Windows Media Connect.
Play video from storage devices such as USB flash drives, Xbox 360 Memory Units, etc.
Play video from CD or DVD data discs.

Nice. smile
15372  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Recap 30/Oct/06 on: October 30, 2006, 08:16:06 PM
60hrs for it. I haven't even played all of the officers yet. There's about 8 or so that I've not even started up.
Cleared it with at least 16 though. ::sigh::

I enjoy the mindless hack-n-slash, and the combat engine has been mixxed up a bit. I actually preferred the combat in N3 than this though; it IS showing it's age.

I'd have 18inch biceps if I had to play it on Wii; that's for DAMNED sure.
15373  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The 100 Scariest Movie Scenes on: October 30, 2006, 08:07:16 PM

Not a great movie (K.Smith is in it) but it had it's freaky moments.
Here's the #1 broken down into math:

Cross-dressed Clowns
Horrid makeup
Ethan Suplee as an assailant
aggrevated homosexual assault (gang-rape)
morning after scene with blood running down the vic's leg through garter belt and panties
=  eek :icon_eek: saywhat paranoid puke
15374  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Recap 30/Oct/06 on: October 30, 2006, 07:43:50 PM
Unlocked 3 officers in Samurai Warriors 2. I only have one left (Ranmuru Mori) and two guards to complete the achievements.
15375  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: F.U.R. (Forum User Review) Guidelines on: October 30, 2006, 07:24:08 PM
I'm not trying to step on the impressions and spoiler threads. This is an at-a-glance "What's the tempurature" kind of thing.
If you want, I can add links to the first message to the other pertinent threads though.

so there would be a "links" and have the URL to your different topic threads. Would that help?
15376  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty 3 on: October 30, 2006, 05:29:21 PM
I can't wait.

I'm gonna win ATBs contest; this is the game he's going to be buying me.  nod
15377  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 360 verticle or horizontal on: October 30, 2006, 05:23:51 PM
You'd think papasmurf coulda polled this one, no?

Vertical for me.
15378  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Do I want the 360 HD-DVD Add On? on: October 29, 2006, 02:04:12 AM
There are rumblings that HDMI will be available. (and have been for some time). It wouldn't surprise me either; their bulkhead connector is likely capable of recieving and transmitting digital information.

They just haven't done it thus far.
15379  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Recommend a Canadian Netflix-like service on: October 29, 2006, 02:00:33 AM
Never bothered with movies; only games. ( ). Sorry bud.  :icon_sad:
15380  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rainbow 6 Vegas demo on: October 29, 2006, 01:58:20 AM
Zipline anchor points are commonly installed; they're required by code in places where terrorists may infiltrate.

Finished the demo. Game is #1 on my rental list; I may even buy it.
15381  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: [WoW] Finally...I'm done with Deadmines.... on: October 27, 2006, 11:36:37 PM
I don't miss this one bit.

The addiction, however, almost craves it.
15382  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: G.o.W. on: October 27, 2006, 11:30:22 PM
Early reviews are out!!

it cuts ...

the butter??!!  saywhat
15383  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are the symptoms of a 360 about to go bad? on: October 27, 2006, 08:34:30 PM
Oh, here's a symptom:

if the magic smoke escapes, your 360 has gone bad.  nod
15384  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are the symptoms of a 360 about to go bad? on: October 27, 2006, 07:53:46 PM
Arkon is a magnet for bad luck.

All warranty issues I've had with MS have been excellent. (XBOX1, replacement power supply for 360)

I just wanted a second one; my first one was alright... I just didn't feel like moving powerbrick everytime I switched TVs.
Since you can't BUY em, I told em I lost mine. The guy said "sorry, there's nothing we can do."

I said "So I gotta go buy a 500 console for a part you can't sell separately, but are giving away to people with "bad ones"?"
He said hold on, then 5 min later came back and shipped me one.  icon_biggrin
15385  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: Splinter Cell Double Agent For Sale (lowered price) on: October 27, 2006, 06:13:33 PM
2 bux cheaper?? I heard this game suxxorz from "Calvin". You want me to shell out almost full price?  saywhat  disgust  :slywink:
15386  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamefly not in Canada.... so GameAccess is!! on: October 27, 2006, 06:11:11 PM
Winnipeg .. you can click on peoples names to see where they're located. (if they have real info in the profile)
15387  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy sales chart comparison on: October 27, 2006, 03:40:46 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on October 27, 2006, 03:07:18 PM

I think Square did a good job of marketing VII to non RPG players.  On a personal level I don't care for JRPGs at all and somehow I own 2 copies.  It reminds me of Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantam Menace.  I hated the move yet somehow I saw it in the theater twice, bought it on VHS and own 2 copies on DVD. 

I think you should have your head examined by a medical professional.  nod
15388  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: F.U.R. - F.U.R. [Console Gaming Forum] on: October 27, 2006, 02:24:03 PM
Mods, could you move this to Site Feedback. If people have suggestions, please put them here. I just went with Forum User Review.

It could be something like Trend-Setting Review ... or Gaming Entertainment Trend Outspoken Users Tally (GET OUT)  icon_twisted . The point of the thread is important. I'd actually asked KD to look into getting something like this integrated so they aren't their own threads (as every game would flood the forum). That's ultimately why I only do the blockbuster games.

We could call it GT Weathervane, or Windsock. At this point we can put forward suggestions, but if this is going to be a regular thing, it should probably be integrated and site controlled. Heck, it would be nice if we could "relate" posts to items in the GT game database. biggrin
15389  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamefly not in Canada.... so GameAccess is!! on: October 27, 2006, 11:34:04 AM
Currently from Montreal; by the end of 2006 they will have a sendout from Vancouver.

Right now I wait about a week for a game. I have the 2 game membership (~20 a month).
Once they add the expidite function on the site I'll be a happy boy.
15390  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: F.U.R. - F.U.R. [Console Gaming Forum] on: October 27, 2006, 12:53:04 AM
Sorry pug. I saw the low votes and figured you were making a statement. I suppose I *will* stop with the posts if it truly is unloved.
15391  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: F.U.R. - F.U.R. [Console Gaming Forum] on: October 26, 2006, 09:13:11 PM
Thanks for the feedback Wonderpug. I appreciate it.  disgust
If this poll doesn't do better, I won't bother. :shrug:

You'd think this should be in Site Feedback.
15392  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Do I want the 360 HD-DVD Add On? on: October 26, 2006, 07:18:46 PM
thar ya go. 2 good reasons.

1) wear and tear on the 360 (I doubt it does much more than run 1 CPU though; that's what DVD use does)
2) HD-DVD vs. BluRay format wars.

Either wouldn't hold me back; the 200bux, however, does. biggrin
15393  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / F.U.R. - Bully [PS2] on: October 26, 2006, 07:11:10 PM
- This game is exclusive to the PS2 platform.
- If you rated a game 1-4, please indicate the number and give explanation below.
- Check out the Forum User Review guidelines.
- Change your vote if your opinion changes!
- reposted as the first one didn't allow vote changing.
15394  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Do I want the 360 HD-DVD Add On? on: October 26, 2006, 06:39:27 PM
I can't think of a good reason why not... as long as you actually WANT HD movies.  nod
15395  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 360 N00bz Journal- Updated 22/Oct/06 on: October 26, 2006, 06:37:29 PM
 saywhat I've never noticed my fan running. Odd. I'll check that tonight.
15396  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] F.U.R. - Splinter Cell : Double Agent on: October 26, 2006, 06:33:05 PM
added link to the XBOX1 version in the Notes.
The XBOX FUR version is here.
15397  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 360 N00bz Journal- Updated 22/Oct/06 on: October 26, 2006, 05:10:22 PM
I have 2 play-n-charge kits,  and the charge station . I don't like the charge station as much as you need to plug it into an outlet, and if you were playing you'd need to wait for the battery to finish charging (if you didn't have a second battery to swap out).

You don't need your 360 on to charge using play-n-charge kit either.

Step 1: plug "tether" into controller and into 360 while 360 is on, or turn it on if it was off.
Step 2: turn off 360 by using the power button on the system itself. (tap once)
Step 3: look at your tether connection. The red charge light should still be on even though the system and controllers are off.

It will continue to charge until it's full, and then turn that function off.
15398  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / F.U.R. (Forum User Review) Guidelines on: October 26, 2006, 05:04:58 PM
I'm not typing this out everytime, so the point of this thread is a reference point. It doesn't need to be stickied; I will post a link to it in every FUR thread.

The point of the F.U.R. Threads :
This is my attempt at creating a quantifiable to describe the forum effect. Your votes are not locked in; if there is a big smelly turd in the Boston Creme donut you bought, you can change it(KoTOR2, I'z lookin atchoo).

This means the numbers may fluctuate and actually create an overall "current" impression of a game without being just a simple review time-slice that sits unchallenged over the digital ages. Also, it's meant for an -at a glance- evaluation.

- people to vote if they have played the game to any significant time (2 hour minimum, please).
- people to make brief comments if they've voted and wanted to point out their good/bad points. (not mandatory)
- people to dispute those points in this thread if they want to.
- people to come back and change (for better or worse) their rating of the game if they see fit to do so.
- people who are looking to buy the game to be able to see this and help them decide
- to be able to come up with another line I can start with "People"  icon_lol

- demo reviews; that's not final code. Unless the title specifies otherwise, retail product only.
- bogus reviews. If you haven't played it, don't vote.
- Fanboy review effects. Fanboys can vote if they meet criteria, but try to be a little objective. slywink
- Haters* to skew results.
- this to turn into a help / spoiler thread.

*People are putting their cash down on these games; if you hate Sony/Nintendo/MS/DeveloperX/PublisherY, WTF does that have to do with the game?

Example for Comments:
For the reply to topics, I'd be looking for:

I gave PS3's Eruption at Pompeo an 8, here's why:
+ Plays like a dream
+ Doesn't have shots of Chris Farley or Chris Rattan in it.
+ Has Ellen Pompeo's body in it.

- Controls aren't "Hands on"
- She's dressed
- Has Ellen Pompeo's face in it.
- Ellen has speaking roles
15399  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Switched on: October 26, 2006, 04:49:10 PM

Quote from: DarkEL on October 26, 2006, 04:31:29 PM

Quote from: Purge
Yeah. Since we've identified gaming as being a PC pursuit, you'd think the iconic representation to be reversed.
Well if they were to bring in the gaming argument wouldn't we need to show kids breaking the law? ;-)

Heh. I'd guess they'd be portrayed with greasy long hair, bad acne and handguns hanging out of their black trench-coats.

Quote from: DarkEL on October 26, 2006, 04:31:29 PM

Quote from: Purge
The home movie commercial is a real insult to intelligence; the iMovie vs PC's movie... You're telling me that the 3rd party software for PC is dwarfed by their home-movie crap?
Actually i interpreted that commercial as comparing iMovie vs. Windows Movie Maker. That's really the only way it makes sense since most 3rd party video editing software is now available for both platforms.

So we're comparing software from this year to one developed in 2001.  icon_wink MS doesn't develop functionality tools; it buys them from others. I agree that they SHOULD bump the quality in their apps though. MS "second party" apps need an overhaul. I've not installed Vista's latest RC. Did they improve on it?

Quote from: DarkEL on October 26, 2006, 04:31:29 PM

Quote from: Purge
If Mac OS was all that great, why don't they release a MAC OS for the PC? I mean, they're both using the same basic physical platforms now, right? Right?
Isn't that just going back to the point that Apple views themselves more as a hardware company, while Microsoft is more of a software.  i.e. Apple makes their software to sell their hardware.
As soon as you have an "operating system" that constitutes software. Since that operating system can be run on non-propietary hardware (as the switch over to x86 and UNIX) they became a viable OS to the PC users. They moved in that direction; they should have thought of that when they did it.

Quote from: DarkEL on October 26, 2006, 04:31:29 PM

Quote from: Purge
I can get a more powerful PC for half the price and do everything I want it to do INCLUDING playing games. Let's see a MAC do THAT.
well as a developer - one of the ways i am using to try to convince my work to reimburse me for my macbook is because I can use it to run any operating system. I can dual boot into windows or mac on the same hardware - or better yet I can install a Virtual Machine program like Parallels and run Windows, Mac and Linux simultaneously. That's a godsend for developing and testing.  In fact check out this great blog post from yesterday about that very fact.

That is, unfortunately for you, a very limited range use for the system. From a practical standpoint, you don't have one developer in a company. The cost to have one MAC workstation ( for a team of developers to test (lets say 10 devs) over paying extra coin for each of their workstations doesn't really make a lot of sense. Windows can be dual-booted to test Linux/Unix.

Once again I am not saying it's not viable, but from my environment (where we have over 3000 people in our IS division across the world) it just doesn't make sense.
15400  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Switched on: October 26, 2006, 04:37:21 PM

Quote from: th'FOOL on October 26, 2006, 04:10:16 PM

Quote from: Purge
Let me reiterate my points in a clear and concise manner so there is no misconception:

1) I am using PortraitOfAKite OSX shell on Windows, because YES, there are some VERY NICE user features. (note the link above).
2) I have owned apple products in the past, including a current gen 60gb iPod video, a 60gb iPod photo, QT 6.x and 7.x licensed.
3) Apple hardware has been keep proprietary to force out any competition, more than to concern themselves with "stability".
4) Apple commercials are transparent, glib and insult viewer intelligence.
5) I can built a PC more powerful than a Mac WITH MS licensed OS far cheaper than current Mac PCs. (and with a Linux or BSD it's even cheaper)

Well thank you for shitting on all of us that HAVE used Apples or have recently purchased one with your 'unbiased' opinions.  I hope it was worth it.  Obviously you DO have an informed opinion on the Apple OS and computer hardware because you have owned an ipod and a quicktime license. Roll Eyes

Well THAT reply speaks to the 5 points listed. Thanks. I've never stated I am unbiased. I never said I was on the fence. I had gone through pricing out a PC and a Mac earlier this year; for a paltry 500US I was able to upgrade my PC to something that would have cost me 2500 for the lovely ability to hear your wife squeal in delight. No, wait, that doesn't sound right.  Tongue

 I am not bringing animosity or any hate to this. I am glad DarkEl has found happiness in his new Mac; that's cool. I like a lot of the features in Macs; form the interface right down to the UNIX platform it now sits on. XWindows can be a painful experience and the fact that a company with "end user know-how" has picked it up and made it useable to the uninitiated is all the more reason to support them.

The basis for my dissatisfaction for Apple is this: they are completely proprietary. Contrary to your statements, that is neither the basis for their success or part of their fucking charm. That would be like saying the IBM ThinkCentre PC I am typing this on is worth the extra money because it is proprietary and has a "support". That's crazy-talk. The reason I don't include Dell/HP/IBM/Sony in comparison is that they ARE NOT THE ONLY shops in town. To own a MAC you deal with Apple exclusively. Were they to own market-share, how would that be any different than Microsoft's historical anti-competitive nature? Would you support buying your gasoline/petrol through only ONE company? Let's say Diesel cuz it's a different platform. Does that make it better?

To replace/repair an iPod that is 3 days off warranty is about 50bux cheaper than getting a brand new one (one of my buddies bought my photo rather than going through that pain in the arse). That he can't get replacement parts or even get it reimaged without sending it to Apple is, IMHO a crock of shit. The thing boots up, and USB still sees it and you can peruse the file system. Why should he pay 175 bux to fix a 20GB ipod 3rd gen bought just over a year ago?

I want apple to develop drivers certs and convert the market to OSX on existing/non-proprietary hardware.

Is that asking too much, when they already sit on UNIX using x86 technology?
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