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15041  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The 'no receipt' return. Ethical or Theivery on: December 29, 2006, 02:25:12 PM
Oh, and I'm not pulling this every day or week. Once a year, tops. Like I stated, their policies prevent abuse. This is about as unethical as calling in sick cuz you don't feel up to dealing with work for that one day. :shrug: In my current job I've not done that, (been here 5 years) but in my last job that came up monthly.  nod I hate's me some public tech support from AT&T RoadRunner/WorldNet, yo.
15042  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The 'no receipt' return. Ethical or Theivery on: December 29, 2006, 02:16:56 PM

You buy something from the store and 20 minutes later they drop the price. Do they run to you and give you your money back?

The policies prevent abuse of the system. I doubt Santa's gonna chew me out for returning a re-sellable item to a B&M store who is going to turn around and sell it for exactly how much I paid for it. If you win a car and sell it for the money, is it unethical to do so? The cost at which you obtained your product is irrelevant to the amount a retailer with said policy values the product. Buy low, sell high. Also, since it's instore credit, the "money" you get back is going right back into their pockets.

Here's an example : was selling GoW and CoD3 (360) for ~80US one day only. I buy both online with instore pickup. I then go to Wal-Mart to return them, and they give me full retail for both games. I now have a gift card of ~120US, and they have 2 unopened games that go onto the shelf. They sell them at retail, and lose no money at all.

I now have a gift card. I buy an alarm clock, some food and another game, each of which has a markup that would normally net them profit. Since there's ~40 in "unethical credit" this eats away at their profit (in this case that doesn't happen, there is very little room for markup on games. The products I bought have larger profit margins and net them some money). The only people who lost money is BB for selling the games at that price; I have no moral obligation to them as it was THEIR price.

I get 3 wal-mart fliers every goddamned week. Do you know how many times I've been in walmart in the last year? 3 times. 3. Once to return the games, once to spend most of what was on that card and the last trip to finish the card, and spend another 50-60 bux over and above that.

How much do their ads cost them, and how effective was it for them to get me as a consumer? Their policy brought me to their store, and made me a customer. Am I going to frequent there? No. If I recieve a gift that has no reciept and they carry it, they will however get some of my money.

I take no pride in doing this; and I have to admit it didn't feel like I was on moral high-ground; given that they don't hurt because of it and it's their calculated policy and have it in place leaves me in a place where I don't feel any shame for doing it. I am not shoplifting or working outside their policies.

I would like to point out in this example that I sought out the benefit and perhaps that is ethically reprehensible (still feeling no shame though  icon_wink); had I recieved an unwanted gift and didn't know where the gift originated from I would have been on moral high-ground to bring it there; they are gaining profit on a gift that had already fed someone's profit margin in another location. Since they are giving it to me at THEIR sell value, not MSRP, there is no risk from their perspective.
15043  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer Trailer #1 on: December 29, 2006, 01:49:33 PM

Quote from: CrayolaSmoker on December 29, 2006, 01:41:57 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on December 29, 2006, 12:57:27 PM

Quote from: DarkEL on December 28, 2006, 09:27:19 PM

Okay going back to the trailer. Does anyone know the basic plot of the movie?


The basic plot of this movie is that Jessica Alba is in it.

Though you can't see her for 90% of her screentime.  icon_wink

Damn. I wish her character was the  drool Invisible garment Woman.
15044  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Hooking up my consoles on: December 29, 2006, 01:26:48 PM
Pioneer VX1016TX (it's 1016 fer sure, I don't recall the order of the letters) has component switching, and it's a high-current amp. It's a sweet stereo; but you'd be looking down the barrel of 400bux.

I have the 1015 at home. biggrin

I've posted a few pics for the benefit of the VGA hookup and sharing computer pictures. The Scenario 3 is the best fit, IMHO.

The teal represents alternative options for each.

Scene1 : use your "line in" on your soundcard for the 360; use existing output to get sound. The only downsides are that your PC will need to be on, and any engine noise or sounds from the PC (such as MSN messenger) may detract from gaming/movies.
Teal represents using optical output to PC only if card has it.

Scene2 : use a y-splitter instead of the "line in" on your soundcard. This negates the engine noise and the need for your PC to be on. This isn't best practice hooking two signals up to one output though. I personally wouldn't do it, but it is a cheap work-around.
Teal represents just swapping the earphone from one to the other rather than having a splitter.

Scene2 : use something like a CVS880 (e-retails for ~30US). This device has 3 inputs (yellow) and two parallel outputs, so you could push sound out to two outputs if you wanted to. The only downside (besides slightly higher cost) is the need to have the box accessible to move the manual switch. That means all of your connections are visible. I'd recommend mounting it under your desk so that you can reach it from the sitting position but no one sees the cables. YMMV
Teal represents being able to use it to output to two different speakers/headphones.

Also, the CVS880 can be used as a component switching box; the only problem is the presentability and need to be able to move the manual switch on it.

I would recommend a different component switcher unless you're hard up for cash.

use places like to get your cables cheap.

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15045  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer Trailer #1 on: December 29, 2006, 01:19:45 PM
15046  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Twighlight Princess or Wind Waker? on: December 29, 2006, 01:18:28 PM
Did you ever notice one of the tunes that WW uses is the same tune as the Duracell battery commercials?  saywhat

I hated that.
15047  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: AACS (HD-DVD Encryption) Cracked on: December 28, 2006, 08:54:36 PM

Quote from: Destructor on December 28, 2006, 06:05:11 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on December 28, 2006, 05:55:21 PM

Quote from: Destructor on December 28, 2006, 05:23:49 PM

It's done with generating WinXP cd-keys - why won't they keep doing it again this way?
Incidentally, those Keygens have not worked since XP SP2.

I have a few friends who will tell you otherwise. Yes, Microsoft has put in a new check against their online database of CD-keys, but you just have to put in a downloaded .dll file to make WinXP think you've already 'verified' your installation of XP.

IIRC, that breaks as soon as you do something that involves the new MS verification step that occurs with much of their software(IE7, intellipoint/intellitype etc).
15048  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: AACS (HD-DVD Encryption) Cracked on: December 28, 2006, 04:48:54 PM
15049  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Gerald Ford Has Died on: December 28, 2006, 04:30:54 PM
Gerry will always be remembered for NOT being Nixon.

As far as socialist Russia goes, the haves and have-nots still exist; the ratio was just worse. When it comes down to it, communism is never a threat; only the differing ideals and the zealot nature to change that which is different is a "threat". Xenophobe isn't just a bad video game. frown
15050  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gears of War Broken? on: December 28, 2006, 01:45:38 PM
Unlikely. Achievements get applied to your profile, regardless of online status.

It is more likely that the game goes online as you can invite people to your game. It would be easier to have the game always assume online status than to program it to differenciate from a SP game rather than a potential coop game. (I've never tried inviting someone whist playing an SP game; I believe it is identical as you get a "tutorials will no longer run" message when the coop person joins in though).

It would stand to reason that the coop game (select mp / coop / private live) is identical to going into single player campaign as far as the game is concerned.
15051  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: GoW MP Friday/Saturday December 22/23 10 PM EST on: December 27, 2006, 08:19:14 PM
Calvin, here's a fair indicator of messages waiting ...  icon_wink

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15052  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Know What's Great About Xbox Live? on: December 27, 2006, 07:49:59 PM
Forcebane, you are awesome.
SensousLettuce, thanks for the coop match last night. I'm tired today though... it's a good thing everyone ELSE at work is as tired as I am. biggrin
15053  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer Trailer #1 on: December 27, 2006, 07:31:48 PM

The Tick parodied him with Nigh-Omnipotous; so did Sam and Max with "Lactose the Intolerant".

Galactus is the sole survivor of the Universe's "big crunch". There are objects that have buffed heros / villians to be able to take on Galactus; the infinity gauntlet and the cube are two such objects. The Beyonder is probably the strongest "normal sized" person with the ability to defeat Galactus. All of my opinions, however, were formed from my knowledge of the Marvel Universe about 3 years after the Infinity Gauntlet/Infinity War saga.
15054  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Got a Wii for Christmas, now what? on: December 26, 2006, 09:05:05 PM
The GF had convinced me to sell my brothers Wii ( the one that a few GT members had expressed interest in) to one of her old friends as she was looking for one for her hubby.

As it turns out, they had found one, but my gf kept up the story and wrapped that lil' bastard up for ME!

Totally blindsided; she's a conniving little... angel.  disgust

 icon_biggrin Best. Christmas gift from a gf. Ever.

It's not just the object, it's the nature of manipulation that still makes me grin from ear-to-ear.
15055  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Know What Sucks about Achievements? on: December 26, 2006, 08:38:29 PM

Quote from: ATB on December 26, 2006, 04:42:04 PM

If you try a demo of an arcade game it goes into your record and says you have 0 of 200 achievement points.  I mean that's stupid.  Why does it track demos as a game you've played?

Also, anyway to remove that from the records?

don't MOST of your games you've played have 0 Achievement points?  :slywink:
15056  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Merry Christmas Gaming Trend!!! on: December 24, 2006, 01:30:55 AM
happy Ho-Ho-Ho!
15057  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Platform Threads on: December 22, 2006, 04:28:13 PM
I have created a couple threads for the two major conflict topics.

I am hoping people are mature with their participation, the CoC always applies.

Handheld head-to-head thread
Next-Gen head-to-head thread
15058  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [Head2Head] HandHeld Platform VS Thread (GBA,DS,PSP) on: December 22, 2006, 04:24:52 PM
This is an old one, but a classic conflict topic that sometimes derails other threads.

I've created this thread to give it a home so it can stop coming up elsewhere.

Any new developments? I haven't bought either yet; I'm considering one for my birthday in 6 months or so.

Is DS > or < PSP?
15059  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [Head2Head] Next-Gen Console Platform VS Thread (PS3,360,Wii) on: December 22, 2006, 04:21:08 PM
This is about PS3, Xbox360, Wii.

Pro's and cons discussion. New ideas? Who you think will win.

Upward, downward trend discussion.

Just cuz we have a thread doesn't mean we shouldn't be nice to each other, or respectful.

I don't want this thread to get derailed by people trying to do what they perceive to be damage control; this is the discussion that keeps coming up and this thread is DEDICATED to that discussion.


I see 360 gaining momentum in this gen, but they are gonna have to introduce tactical price drops and bigger hard drives before xmas 07 to keep climbing into the big-boy seat. I'd love to see MS offer a 2.5" (or even a 3.25") 360 HD bay that you can mount your own harddrive in, and have the 360 format it and recognize it.

As to PS3, they need some killer 1st and 2nd party games to get people to ignore the costs. Once they're on the shelves regularly we'll see how things fare. I see myself getting one early 2008.

I think market hype is pushing the Wii out the door, and that's not a bad thing. They need to keep coming up with hits though; I think it's looking to be the everyman of the console game. Look at how far "everyman" status took Harrison Ford.  icon_smile

Fuck it. Bye.
15060  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Platform Threads on: December 22, 2006, 04:09:50 PM
I suggest rather than forbidding it, to build a fence around it.

Right now it's a discussion that keeps derailing the POINT OF THE THREADS.

So I'mma gonna make a thread for it, and if someone derails another thread with this crap it can be shunted over to the right one.

I'll post links here.
15061  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Viva Pinata and College Basketball 2K7 (360) - $29.99 at BB on: December 22, 2006, 03:56:56 PM
Hey. I thought we were gonna co-op on RS:V, ATB. Why aren't you picking it up?  saywhat
15062  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Is the glass half-full or half-empty? on: December 22, 2006, 03:55:40 PM
Who said anything about WATER? It's beer man, and I see it as there is opportunity to fit another half-glass of it right in front of me!  nod
15063  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Gah! Job Related. Which new job would you take? on: December 22, 2006, 02:31:05 PM
Job 1 for a month (or however long it takes to get on "permanent". If it's working out, then break your lease.
15064  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: It needs to stop. on: December 22, 2006, 01:40:06 PM
Lee, explain to me what that means. Does someone look bad for posting a thread, a topic they bring up for discussion, just because it involves an article on PS3 sales slump?

Did we (the obvious "them" from your perspective) jump down the throats of the naysaying with troll bait, or did we discuss it with points and counter points?

I could care less about posts where people console themselves because their purchase agenda; when it gets to the OMG posts though, enough is enough. If I wanted to deal with childish people, I'd pick up random Halo2 Live Games.
15065  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Crazy Xbox commercial... on: December 22, 2006, 04:01:17 AM
They were facing a lawsuit with that being a ripoff of a short film or another commercial IIRC.
15066  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Viva Pinata and College Basketball 2K7 (360) - $29.99 at BB on: December 22, 2006, 03:38:40 AM
Too bad it's not in Canada.  disgust
15067  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Industry Report: PS3's are sitting on shelves unsold. on: December 22, 2006, 03:22:51 AM

Stop snowballing topics that have nothing to do with 360's or Wiis.
15068  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: It needs to stop. on: December 22, 2006, 03:16:36 AM
 mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad


deadhorse = annoying.

I agree that the bickering has to stop.

I am annoyed at the fact that PS3 troll posts pop up in threads that are discussing Sony fucking up then turn it into a 360vsPS3 arguement. Those threads weren't put there as a personal attack or as bait for PS3 fanboys. Sony just is REALLY THAT BAD at P.R.

I don't like my ketchup from my fries on my chicken fingers, and I CERTAINLY DON'T APPRECIATE crap like

Simply put, this kind of comment is designed to irritate. I personally am not taking bait anymore; I'm full. If you want to drop nasty comments to people about posts that you think were targeted at you, then kindly use PM and not derail the thread. If you feel like complaining about this to the admins, head over to Site Feedback.

The fact that Hetz runs around in each thread that even MENTIONS PS3 and has been dropping crap like that makes me not want to read it.
It's like he's the only one who likes the PS3 and this is XBOX360.GAMINGTREND.COM. It isn't. I am a Sony customer and will be again. I will also want a Nintendo product.

I am also an adult, and don't need someone telling me what I can and cannot discuss. It's juvenile to expect the admins to police topics dedicated to a topic of discussion because of trolls. The fact of the matter is is that the staff have full-time jobs outside GT, and we as people need to wake the FUCK UP and smell the toast burning.

This is a gaming community. We could tolerate LE and his fluctuations for 2 years; we can CERTAINLY move past a generation leap in the console market.

I am not hopping into PS3 only threads (motorstorm thread for instance) and dropping "yeah, but who could could afford it?" comments. I'd ask the same with 360 threads. Hetz has already stated he doesn't care about how his current behaviour is tarnishing his image (Calvin mentioned it to him today in another thread).

I will try my damnedest to avoid bait, and I will not post bait. I'd like to see everyone else aim for the same goal. I don't want to start resent coming here.
15069  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: It needs to stop. on: December 22, 2006, 03:06:46 AM
 eek I don't even remember posting that.

A++ to company-funded drinking events. Woot.  icon_lol
15070  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Industry Report: PS3's are sitting on shelves unsold. on: December 22, 2006, 02:58:14 AM
re: Hasselhoff

saywhat Then why did you quote it?? slywink

15071  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Virtua Fighter 5 announced! on: December 22, 2006, 02:51:24 AM
I dunno. Broadband connection = fast response.

As long as they know how to WRITE NET-CODE.
15072  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox 360 - Analysts call sales "Disappointing" on: December 21, 2006, 08:09:03 PM
Swamp, welcome to GT! smile

I'm holding out for HD prices to drop to replace the set my Ex took. (had a 51" hitachi RPTV) ...gonna replace it with a big-screen LCD or Plasma. (undecided)

At this point in time I play mostly on my PC monitor (which is a Dell 2405FPW)
15073  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Virtua Fighter 5 announced! on: December 21, 2006, 08:00:14 PM
Quote from: a LVL1 Troll
Can I join in with you all?
At least you've managed to come up with a decent sig, Hetz.

The comment from Destructor is an indication that he doesn't have to shell out 700bux to play VF5; not that Sony is doomed. Put the stick down; it's making you look bad.

As to VF5 coming to 360, I would think Live play is a no-brainer. If it isn't in there it could hurt it's sales (at least in the group of forum dwellers here).

I was underwhelmed with DOA4; I hope VF5 can show us some impressive next-gen fighting action.

edited for spelling
15074  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Yet another reason ATB is going to hell. on: December 21, 2006, 03:23:59 PM
heh. I was laughing too; it was the main reason I felt that chat was post-worthy.

Sometimes the clouds of comic ignorance part and the sun shines on me. I'm not due for another 2 years now.

15075  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Transformers - The First Trailer on: December 21, 2006, 03:05:05 PM

I would have MUCH preferred Brian Singer... or even Sam Raimi. Someone who can update an old product without butchering it.
15076  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 is one of Time's "failures of the year 2006" on: December 21, 2006, 02:47:16 AM

Quote from: Hetz on December 21, 2006, 01:21:39 AM

Dual Layer discs are already used for all 360 games, that is what is 9GB. Regular DVD's are 4.5GB.
Resistance already uses more than what a dual layer DVD can hold. It uses about 18GB of data, of which very little is FMV.

Lesse, if you have 50GB and are nowhere near the limit, what incentive would you have to trim your code?  Excessive storage breeds laziness in code; code quantity != code quality or efficiency. Just because the devs have USED that space doesn't mean that they have gained anything by it. I'm sure they've been encouraged to drop that info to the media to "sell the idea" that there is a space limitation with other platforms.

How much space does your MP3/AAC/MP4 collection take up? Go to RAW format (like .WAV). Now how much space do you have? You could say you're using 20 terrabytes of data for the same thing that fits on a 4GB Nano. That's just encoding differences (IIRC right now BR movies use uncompressed MPEG-2; this also acts as a justification for more space).

I've seen WAS portal sites run better with lower mem allocation. The engine needs to fit the chassis. Fact of the matter is, when it comes to programs, bigger is sometimes worse.

If MGS4 needs 40hours of FMV, then hey, maybe 3DVDs are going to be required. I wouldn't mind switching disks just to be able to stretch my legs from sitting for so long though.  :slywink:
15077  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 is one of Time's "failures of the year 2006" on: December 21, 2006, 12:35:09 AM

Quote from: Hetz on December 21, 2006, 12:29:03 AM

Quote from: Lee on December 20, 2006, 03:37:53 AM

When I bought my TV earlier this year I didn't know 1080p was the next big thing. They weren't out then (or were very expensive) and I was already overwhelmed by the technology. I would think the vast majority of us don't own 1080p TVs. I can't and won't keep upgrading my TV.
So along those lines Hetz, you are going over the top. Just because you can afford all this stuff, doesn't mean we all can.

I wasn't talking about 1080p at all. I was talking about people that bought a TV that only did 1080i and not 720p.

As it stands, Hetz, your position on this is well known (and your 1080p capability). It would be easy to mistake your comment as being condescending. (I'm not saying it was, but the tone was possible)

My parents picked up a Samsung 30" CRT HDTV last year and returned it because it didn't accept a 720p signal. They didn't know it didn't; I had to find that out after-the-fact. We went back and they now have a 32" Aquos. Were I not around they would have been stuck by a major manufacturer. The fact is, Sony *should be* concerned with what their customers need. Forcing 480p means that people will start saying "PS3 looks like ass" and have people pointing their finger at the mfgrs; Sony should be protecting themselves by actually UPconverting, not DOWNconverting.
15078  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PLEASE READ ALL FORUM GUESTS & LURKERS (members too) on: December 21, 2006, 12:27:28 AM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on December 20, 2006, 11:24:53 PM

I'm completely speechless.  You guys never cease to amaze me.   Merry Tet-Rama-Solsta-Hanni-Kwanza-Mas to you guys!

Liar. I know you have an emergency speech tucked away in your sock in case you ever need some public speaking material on short notice....

The only thing that disturbs me is where you hide it when you're wearing sandals.   :icon_eek:
15079  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox 360 - Analysts call sales "Disappointing" on: December 20, 2006, 10:11:36 PM
Welcome to GT man! smile
15080  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New Band-Aids to employ nanotech? on: December 20, 2006, 09:03:23 PM

nano-bots rebuilt Red Dwarf and rebuilt the crew. That's not a good thing man. Lister had a dream...
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