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1161  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: In which I pimp the new Fallout 3 site on: October 24, 2008, 03:05:42 PM

Quote from: msduncan on October 24, 2008, 02:50:46 PM

News from OO:    Rumor swirling that some Best Buys have broken the release date.

Where and how fast can I get there? slywink
1162  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saints Row 2 on: October 24, 2008, 12:02:26 AM

Quote from: pingwrx on October 23, 2008, 11:46:55 PM

I'm having a hard time with the mission where you have yo kill veteran child everytime I throw the flashbang it only seems to stun him for about  3 seconds them hes right back behind shaundi again I can't seem to get a clean shot on him any hints?

This took a couple of tries, you just have to get a pattern going. Flash, run out, shoot, run to flash, repeat. It takes a little while. I also found that an assault rifle or the smg helps.
1163  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Recommend me the most immersive RPG that ISN'T Oblivion or Fallout 3... on: October 23, 2008, 02:30:33 AM
The Gothic Series, The Witcher Enhanced Edition, The first Fallout's.
If you're already bringing your gaming rig, why not bring a 360 and Get Fable II as well.....

Also, to extend time, make sure you do EVERY side mission for Oblivion and FO3..... smile
1164  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Spider-Man Web of Shadows on: October 20, 2008, 11:37:47 PM
No post about this game, is that good or bad? I was thinking about picking it up for the PS3. I can't seem to find any reviews either, just some old previews....

1165  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saints Row 2 on: October 20, 2008, 09:48:39 PM

Quote from: Roscoe on October 20, 2008, 10:46:21 AM

I am still confused about one thing. Some stores have back doors and safes, just like SR1, however I have yet to find a safe with an option to crack it. Is there some initiating mission that enables this, or are the safes just for show?

You can rob the safes, but only during store hours smile

Pull out a gun and hold it on the cashier, then keep holding it until they get to the safe and give you the money. I had it automatically hit me with 3 stars right afterwards, so be careful. You also don't seem to get a lot of money. I just dropped around 30k at a gun store and thought I would get it all back, no dice. Got around $500-$1000 I think.
1166  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Sons of Anarchy on: October 20, 2008, 04:33:26 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on October 20, 2008, 03:07:41 PM

I \had to look it up too on Wikipedia.  It's actually SAMCRO (a rough acronym of The Sons of Anarchy Motorcycle Club, Redwood Original Chapter).

Ahh, that makes sense... It would have made more sense if they explained it in the show. I thought it was the name of the founder of  SoA or something....
1167  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Sons of Anarchy on: October 20, 2008, 02:59:10 PM
Me and the wife are watching and liking this, but I am confused at something that is probably stupid... What/Who is Sam Crow and why are they referring to it?
1168  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [ps3] Fallout 3 - I'm concerned on: October 20, 2008, 02:43:35 PM

Quote from: Creepy_Smell on October 20, 2008, 01:22:42 PM

So tempted to get a console but I have a xbox1/ps2 backlog to clear before I can justify a new one. I also like mods so that leans me more towards pc, but yet again the backlog raises its head and mocks me, though that one I am at least working on these days.

That's ok, get a 360 or PS3 anyway. They will play most of those backlogged games. Win/Win.
1169  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [ps3] Fallout 3 - I'm concerned on: October 20, 2008, 02:42:08 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 20, 2008, 03:01:53 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on October 19, 2008, 07:28:50 PM

OXM gave fallout 3 a 10/10.  I don't really trust "official" magazines, but I suspect most reviews will be about the same.

I'm about 8 hours in and I'm thinking 9.5+ at this point.  Many hours to go....

Holy crap is it really that bad that you would only give it a 9.5 to start with? This just dropped off my radar.....

Spoiler for Hiden:
Remember, Gaming Trend scores are based on 100. slywink
1170  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saints Row 2 on: October 19, 2008, 02:32:00 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on October 19, 2008, 06:35:44 AM

yeah thats it,i think its called the 'D-Stroy'(i dont actually think its called the UFO,it just IS one)

in the middle of your manual(instructions)you should see the vehicle,its what you get for registering the game at,but they give you the same code as everybody else

Although, ironically, you can't actually D-Stroy anything with it....
1171  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Far Cry 2 DRM on: October 19, 2008, 02:26:37 PM

Quote from: Mithridates on October 19, 2008, 12:52:37 PM

Quote from: TiLT on October 19, 2008, 08:55:39 AM

What it boils down to is this: Some people have real, actual problems getting DRM games to run, either now or in the future. And for what? DRM has no observable effect against piracy (and arguably even encourages it). What's the point in trying to defend DRM when there are only negatives and no positives, even if the negatives don't directly affect you?

You guys keep throwing crap out there like "DRM doesn't work, its useless".  Can you link to something by someone with actual industry experience/expertise that says that?  Because otherwise, I'm going to assume that the software industry is smart enough to do what is best for their product.

This is easy, just go look at any number or warez sites and see how quickly the copy protection is defeated. Sometimes on day 1 or before. It usually doesn't even slow down the pirates. The companies put in protection to keep people from pirating their games, but the pirates crack them right away anyhow. In general, the people looking to pirate software already know where to get it. It may have been different in the past, where you had to be "in the know" in some cases to get to pirated sites. Now they are all over.
Software with phyiscal dongles has been cracked
Software with online activation has been cracked
console and hand held games have been cracked

That is why DRM is useless. It's purpose is to prevent piracy and it doesn't. The days of the casual copier are over. There are probably VERY few of those people left.

If someone developed a new fire extinguisher, but it couldn't actually extinguish fires, I would call that useless too...
1172  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Far Cry 2 DRM on: October 19, 2008, 04:44:44 AM

Quote from: Destructor on October 19, 2008, 03:44:44 AM

Quote from: Mithridates on October 19, 2008, 12:30:32 AM

Quote from: Huw the Poo on October 18, 2008, 09:39:07 PM

Quote from: Mithridates on October 18, 2008, 07:05:56 PM

Amen.  I can't beleive people are freaking out over this.
Really?  It's quite simple.  It's because some of us do like to replay games years later.  And we don't like people taking a giant shit on our rights.
Holy hell.  Can you be more dramatic?  Your "rights"?  This is amazing, the imagined persecution you guys have worked up over this DRM stuff. 

I look at it this way. I fired up Daggerfall on my laptop today. Yes, the old-school DOS based game that was released on 8/96 (I love DOSBox). If it was DRMed with what is out there today (server based activation, limited installs, etc etc), it wouldn't install and would have to be pirated to play.

That is my point. Some of us do like to install and fire up old games for some crazy reason. I own it, and damn it I want to be able to play it when I want to. Period.

I too replay older games after a while. Sometimes it's just to see what kind of performance I get on my new hardware. A game like Crysis or Far Cry 1/2 has loads of eye candy, that some people may not be able to appreciate with the equipment they currently have.

I'm in the camp of any copy protection annoys me. I play multiple games at a time (not simultaneously, but flip through several of them) I hate looking for discs. Also, even keycodes get annoying when I have to re-install months laters. I can usually find the discs and not the manual/box.

I WOULD feel different, if I truly thought that it was protecting the companies software, but lets be real. At least 95% of all software is cracked within the first week of release. Some of it is cracked before it is even publicly released to begin with. There isn't any copy protection that stops or even slows down the pirates. Yes copy protection can help against "casual" copying, but I would argue that, that accounts for a miniscule amount of actual people. For the most part, anyone into casual copying would very easily find the cracks for protected software.

Can anyone honestly say that they fully believe that copy protection has any real value?
1173  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: In which I pimp the new Fallout 3 site on: October 18, 2008, 08:17:33 PM

Quote from: Tebunker on October 18, 2008, 05:47:42 AM

even though it would make it more difficult for fast reviews and release date reviews etc. I kinda wish game companies would tell the media to bite it (sorry KD  icon_wink  ) and not give any reviewable code out until a game actually ships to retail. Yeah it might make reviews take longer, and no it won't stop piracy, but it would prevent ass hats from torrenting their stuff prior to release. And to be entirely honest people who buy on launch date would buy a game regardless of reviews, so I think it'd have a minimal impact of early sales.

This probably wouldn't be a big issue for electronic format reviews, but for print magazines it would those things aren't printed out way in advance. I "think" it takes about 2 months, which would mean that a review for a game would come out 2 months after the release, not good for them...
1174  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Far Cry 2 DRM on: October 18, 2008, 03:40:34 AM

Quote from: Destructor on October 17, 2008, 07:57:40 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on October 17, 2008, 03:44:27 AM

and Far Cry 2 is already being pirated....

at least the 360 version is.

I see the copy protection did wonders protecting the game there.  Roll Eyes Tongue

So if piracy is killing PC gaming, I guess consoles will be next. Soon we'll all have to go back outside and play....
1175  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead. You are not ready. on: October 18, 2008, 03:37:35 AM

Quote from: Tokek on October 17, 2008, 09:53:25 PM

Quote from: madpeon on October 17, 2008, 08:59:10 PM

Can anyone with a retail copy of the Orange Box confirm that the versions you get on disks can be added to a Steam account?

I have a $37 pre-order for L4D through Amazon, but I'd consider moving it to a Steam pre-order if I can't added the retail version to my existing account.

I don't have a retail copy of Orange Box but I did have a Collector's Edition of Half Life 2 and it added it to Steam just fine.

I have Dark Messiah that I bought at retail and that keycode added to Steam as well.
1176  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [ps3] Fallout 3 - I'm concerned on: October 18, 2008, 03:28:40 AM

Quote from: kathode on October 18, 2008, 12:27:51 AM

Hey, different strokes for different folks.  The info is out there so feel free to decide for yourself.  The negative ones always get the most play, it's just how these things work.  I wish they were always all positive, but that never seems to be the case.  If you're interested in a counterpoint, you can check out the 8-page long OXM review.  Long story short, I would say they would disagree.  More reviews will be coming down the pipe soon, no doubt.  You should have all the info you need to make an informed purchasing decision when the appointed time arrives smile

I would never discount anyone's opinions, but I should mention that the one linked above includes something I consider a major spoiler.  It's mentioned very casually so people will probably miss it, but I am seriously unhappy that it got out.  I know I open myself up for accusations that I don't want people to read it, but I just want to put that out there if you are considering playing and don't want to read spoilers. 

For what little it's worth, personally I could not be more proud of this game. 

Of course you have to like it and get us to buy it... How else will you afford your new solid gold humvee?
1177  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The latest Horse Armor - Soul Calibur IV on: October 18, 2008, 03:24:42 AM

Quote from: yossar on October 17, 2008, 11:45:11 PM

Quote from: jersoc on October 17, 2008, 10:45:22 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 17, 2008, 10:35:09 PM

Quote from: Destructor on October 17, 2008, 10:29:17 PM

Yeah, it was a really, REALLY poorly kept secret, but Namco has finally confirmed that you'll be able to 'purchase' the other secret character in Soul Calibur IV:

Namco announced this morning that Yoda and Darth Vader will soon be offered as downloadable content for Soul Calibur IV on the consoles in which they didn't already appear. Yep, we all saw this one coming.

The content is scheduled to hit on October 23 and you can expect to pay $4.99 for Yoda on PS3 and 400 Microsoft Points ($5.00) for Vader on 360.

Let's reiterate: $5.00 for a new character. Is Namco asking too much? Admittedly, I'll be downloading Vader onto my 360 (strict orders from my girlfriend), but I'll do it with a grimace on my face and an icky taste in my mouth.

$5 for a single bit which flags your game has having the other character? Oh come now - everybody knows that the other secret character is on the disc already. You're just paying for that bit.

I know I won't be buying it (as I haven't really played SCIV much since I got it cheap via a forum member here). Howabout you?

Well, aren't you buying bits any time you download something.  Isn't that what these computer thingies trade in?

Also, let me explain a little something called economics.  There's this system called supply and demand.  Now, with bits, the supply is unlimited, basically, but the demand for these characters is probably worth about, oh, $5 to the average gamer.

nice to see the point go totally over your head. maybe you need a ladder? I don't have Sc4, so this doesn't affect me. what does affect me is this bullshit of shipping something on the disc and pay for it, again. This is no surprised as namco ALWAYS does this shit from what I hear. so basically everyone buying this paid 65 for the complete game. it's a complete ripoff to ship the data on a disc and then make you buy to unlock what you paid for already.

You don't own every bit of data on the DVD.  You own a license to the software.  Do you get upset at trial programs that won't unlock the full program until you pay the publisher for a key?  Even if you already downloaded the whole thing and the key merely flips a switch on the software that lets you access the latent features?!?  I hope not.  If you don't think the character is worth $5, don't buy it.  If you don't think the full game is worth $60 unless it comes with both Vader and Yoda, wait until it drops $5. 

This isn't trial ware though, we've already paid for the game. It would be different if it was an actual download, but if the character was just locked out of the disc, that stinks. No buy for me.
1178  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bethesda sucks and they and anyone who likes them are going to hell (Fallout 3) on: October 14, 2008, 09:31:47 PM

Quote from: kathode on October 14, 2008, 09:18:31 PM

Clearly one of us has a lot more copies that they need to manufacture slywink

Solution: Offer early digital downloads.... See how easy? smile
1179  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bethesda sucks and they and anyone who likes them are going to hell (Fallout 3) on: October 14, 2008, 09:17:22 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on October 14, 2008, 09:04:28 PM

Quote from: Punisher on October 14, 2008, 05:21:15 PM

Why can Far Cry 2 go Gold today and get to us by next Tuesday and Fallout 3 go Gold last week and take until the end of the month... frown

Ubisoft users more effecient slave labor?
So if Ubisoft had made FO3, we'd have it already?
1180  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer and PayPal? on: October 14, 2008, 05:33:48 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 10, 2008, 01:38:55 PM

I don't know about PayPal, but it looks like you can buy prepaid subscription cards on Amazon and there you can pay for things direct from your checking account.

Walmart also sells them
1181  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bethesda sucks and they and anyone who likes them are going to hell (Fallout 3) on: October 14, 2008, 05:21:15 PM
Why can Far Cry 2 go Gold today and get to us by next Tuesday and Fallout 3 go Gold last week and take until the end of the month... frown
1182  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Q on: October 10, 2008, 11:52:49 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on October 09, 2008, 02:43:33 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on October 09, 2008, 01:04:03 PM

Quote from: kathode on October 08, 2008, 07:33:37 PM


Civ:Rev and DQ4 have also been great.  Of course the landscape is about to drastically change.

So you're pretty excited about the upcoming release of Smackdown vs Raw 2009 too?  icon_twisted

bah, we all know which game he is talking about:

Fable 2.

Actually I think he his referring to DNF.....
1183  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: In which I pimp the new Fallout 3 site on: October 09, 2008, 01:48:02 PM
Does anyone know if this is even GOLD? If so which versions?
Knowing it's Gold makes it more realistic for a release date.....
1184  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Review] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed on: September 22, 2008, 02:51:23 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on September 21, 2008, 03:35:35 AM

[quote author=Punisher link=topic=29157.msg464452#msg464452 date=1221914962
Any tips on getting through the first Death Star Level? I ran through the game with little problem, except for the Star Destroyer level and now this....

So it took me forever to figure out that you aren't supposed to beat all those waves of troops (well let's say that you don't need to at least, you might get something for doing it.)   You can bend those huge grates in the middle of the room and drop down to the next part almost immediately, instead of trying to fight it out with those endless waves of Imperials.

I had known about that, but was hoping to find a way to beat the waves. I think they do end at some point. Those damn Purge Troopers are the main problem with their super-homing missles.....

Anyway, I cheaped out and just blasted through the floor, i couldn't take it anymore....

Finished the game with both endings today... I enjoyed it alot... The 2nd Vader fight got me frustrated as he had too many "cheap" moves.....
1185  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: BIA Hell's Highway Impressions on: September 21, 2008, 02:57:25 PM

Quote from: mikeg on September 21, 2008, 02:53:46 PM

So, there.  An official impressions thread with a real life impression in it. 

Mods, please delete this thread... I am pretty sure that violates our policy here.....

mikeg, you need to wait for page 2 from now on....

1186  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Review] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed on: September 20, 2008, 12:49:22 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on September 19, 2008, 05:32:20 AM

Just finished tonight...
Spoiler for Hiden:
Absolutely fantastic game.  I had amazingly high hopes for this one and it still delivered for me.  The art was absolutely fantastic.  The music made for the game was awesome.  Combat was superb.  Force powers blew my mind ad advertised.  I really felt like a force wrecking ball.  I think I may play through it on the PS3 now to soak in the (imo) better graphics.

The story was wonderful and neat to see the start of the Rebel Alliance like that.  This secret apprentice sure did wipe the floor with Vader and the Emp though.  I mean he kicks their ass big time. 

I absolutely loved the set pieces.  Sarlac stomach....Death Star laser chamber....Executor being built.  I mean they reall pulled out all the stops.  It's a shame they killed him off (even though you know they had to) I wonder if they planned on doing another one with the girl who gets let go....?

I noticed there's a locked cinematic even though I beat the game....anyone know what it is?

Any tips on getting through the first Death Star Level? I ran through the game with little problem, except for the Star Destroyer level and now this....
1187  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: SW Force Unleashed(PS3/360) reviews are starting to trickle in on: September 11, 2008, 12:50:50 AM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on September 09, 2008, 09:36:08 PM

Got the game today along with a big sheet of paper that says "All reviews embargoed until September 15th, unless otherwise approved by LucasArts".  Guess that is that.

Loophole ^^^^^   Call George and ask....
1188  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mercenaries 2 impressions thread on: September 06, 2008, 03:29:19 AM

Has anyone gotten the PC version? How is it?
For the co-op is it 2, 3, or more players maximum (there are 3 characters)?
1189  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Assassin's Creed PC lawsuit by Ubisoft (over "leak") on: August 10, 2008, 09:00:58 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on August 08, 2008, 06:14:57 PM

Quote from: Punisher on August 08, 2008, 06:09:56 PM

Here's what I find odd.....

They claim that they put the crash bug in there on purpose for their pre-release version.
They claim that their duplication company leaked the disk they gave them, which I assume was to be duplicated.

Why would a game company duplicate a pre-release version in the first place?

I think the game was just buggy and they are trying to pull a "we meant to do that" in order to explain the crappy pc reviews for their buggy product...

This was actually explained in a thread on QT3.  Basically it's standard practice to to do a sort of test run of duplicating the game with the copy protection attached and then a QA pass on that.  As this is done about a month before the game goes gold, it is necessarilly a pre-release version of the game and, as such, likely to have bugs that the final duplicated product would not. 

Basically,  the duping plant will produce a very, very limited run of pre-release copies that are intended to go back to Ubisoft for testing.  It was this version of the game that was stolen and released. 

Well, that explains it then...I never realized that they did this..... So does anyone know which reviews were "official" and if they contained the same issues?
1190  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Assassin's Creed PC lawsuit by Ubisoft (over "leak") on: August 08, 2008, 06:09:56 PM
Here's what I find odd.....

They claim that they put the crash bug in there on purpose for their pre-release version.
They claim that their duplication company leaked the disk they gave them, which I assume was to be duplicated.

Why would a game company duplicate a pre-release version in the first place?

I think the game was just buggy and they are trying to pull a "we meant to do that" in order to explain the crappy pc reviews for their buggy product...
1191  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / weird activation issue on: August 08, 2008, 05:55:39 PM
Has anyone come across this before:
I have a system that I am reformating for someone. It has a Win XP Pro sticker on it. After I format the drive and install the OS, I get an activation warning immiediatly on first boot up. I cannot wait until later since the system won't let me login. If I try to activate over the net, it appears to work, but then logs me right out. Same thing if I do a phone activation. I even tried using the key on a different test pc and the same thing happens, so it looks like a problem with the key. I at first thought it might be a bogus key, but wouldn't the phone activation warn me instead of giving me an access code?
What also happened, was after I put in the phone access it said activated and logged me out and said I still needed to activate. When I tried to activate again, it said it was already activated and logged me out again...

1192  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: First review of 'The Dark Knight' on: July 18, 2008, 01:03:43 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 18, 2008, 07:39:04 AM

ok, important question:  is there anything after the credits like with Iron Man?

There wasn't at my showing, which was disappointing....
1193  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Dark Knight at 88% on rottentomatoes!?! (so far) on: July 18, 2008, 03:26:58 AM
Just finished watching it at an advanced screening. (Thanks Intel and Dell!)
Movie was awesome. If you were upset over Heath Ledgers death before, you will probably be more so. His little spin on the Joker was spot on....

Some "spoilers" (more like things to look out for...)

Spoiler for Hiden:
  • Watch me make this pencil disappear!
  • RTFM Bruce
  • Walking out of the hospital
  • 2 Faces awesome makeup
  • Zeus!
  • hope he has car insurance  crybaby X2

Definiately a great action movie. Probably a little too much talky and not enough Joker, but that's just cause I would love to see a non-stop action movie.
1194  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: (Hellgate: London) Who's in? on: July 13, 2008, 01:59:01 PM
Will any of ths affect the single player game? Also, what about the people who bought the "lifetime" subscrition? SOL?

1195  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (6/23) on: June 29, 2008, 09:35:53 PM
Is Alone in the Drk actually out for the PC yet? I haven't heard any feedback on it and it wasn't in Microcenter yet.
1196  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Spore Creature Creator to be released on June 17th (PICS!) on: June 29, 2008, 09:34:10 PM

Quote from: Dimmona on June 16, 2008, 04:42:56 AM

**Not Work Safe**
**Not Work Safe**
**Not Work Safe**

I shudder to think what other stuff we'll see get created with this thing:

Is it wrong to wonder how well that creature would actually do in the game?
1197  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Oblivion] I'd Like To Invite You To Play With POOP. on: June 27, 2008, 06:21:47 AM
Can't find torrent file! Error

I can has POOP?
1198  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: [Xbox 360 GTA IV] Tuesday Night Geezers Gone Gang-Bangin' on: April 30, 2008, 12:40:49 PM

Quote from: Chaz on April 30, 2008, 04:13:29 AM

Also, was getting wicked echo on my headset.

I was getting the same thing until I checked my audio settings for the headset. chenage it from the default of headset and speakers to headset only.

MP was fun last night, although I find it funny that the SECOND we spawned in free mode, someone starts shooting.... No discussion of option games or anything. I was hoping for a fun game of mall walkers or parade....

It was fun though, too fun, since I ended up delaying a report for work for over an hour.....better late than never...
1199  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GTA4 impressions thread - stores are receiving them! on: April 29, 2008, 01:16:24 AM

Quote from: Arclight on April 28, 2008, 08:26:31 PM

Quote from: TC Weidner on April 28, 2008, 08:22:01 PM

the Sopranos had sex scenes all the time, BECAUSE it helps fill out the under world these people live in. Hookers. strip clubs are a very real plot device.  These people like Nico, dont go home and have a Beaver Cleaver lifestyle. 

It is all a part of their world.  Again to say that sex is bad, but running people over for fun is OK is hypocritical.
but why do you feel the need to advocate virtual sex when it is handled in such a crass and immature manner?
  how do you think it really happens in real life? how is it different and immature.  A john cruises, locates a hooker, drives to an out of the way place, discusses price, gets off, pay.  So how is this game different from real life.

FYi. I dont frequent hookers but I live in the city and its pretty obvious how this goes down.

So in real life would you hide around a corner and watch this happen?
not since my last arrest.....
1200  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: When will the price of gasoline change your habits? on: April 26, 2008, 12:23:52 AM

Quote from: Purge on April 26, 2006, 09:30:41 PM

Quote from: Eduardo X
Quote from: hepcat
damn price of gas has already changed my usual routine...

...killings are down in my neighborhood by 75 percent!

Drive-by bike killings may rise... AS I'M INVADING WITH MY RAT PATROL GANG!

Yeah, it was almost a joke.

Can't you PEOPLE BE SERIOUS??? I mean, come ON. Driveby shootings are down ... sheesh. Yeah, RIGHT.

It's not like the cost of bullets has gone up.

not to mention, people doing drivebys will just steal gas if it gets too high..
As for changing my driving habits, I have.... I drive a LOT more now...

I just got a promotion and have to go to 12 different locations throughout the week.

I drive either a:
92 sentra
01 sportage
05 H2
I do however get paid mileage and even if I drove the H2, would have enough to pay for the gas (although it would kill the extra for maintenance)

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