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1081  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Car gauges not glowing on: March 12, 2010, 03:33:32 PM
Besides the fuse check your plutonium levels for extra glow.....
1082  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Steam--your cd key is already in use on: March 12, 2010, 03:21:55 PM

Quote from: Crawley on March 11, 2010, 10:56:38 PM

What's the story with this game? Is Steam required to install/play it? Or is the key just used to get a digital download copy from Steam?
Actually, I am curious why you put the key in steam too.
1083  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Steam--your cd key is already in use on: March 11, 2010, 09:16:54 PM
1) If paid by credit card, do a charge back
2) Bring it back to a different BB and just tell them you're getting cd errors during install and you want to exchange it.
3) Call the DM back and tell him/her that Steam told you that it looks like the game was used and returned to the store before you bought it.
1084  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: March 09, 2010, 02:26:04 AM

Quote from: SkyLander on March 09, 2010, 12:48:08 AM

The only problem is that I'm pretty sure if nobody buys the PC version they'll just spin it saying that they had a true fix for Piracy and that there aren't enough PC gamers out there to buy there games that they just won't release for the PC anymore.

I'm sure Dice would disagree with them....
1085  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: March 08, 2010, 12:52:00 AM

Quote from: Gratch on March 08, 2010, 12:34:19 AM

I'm not a tech guy by any means, but it seems to me that dedicated servers, infrastructure, bandwidth for constant monitoring, personnel, etc., would be far more expensive that what they would have lost from "casual" piracy.  Am I way off-base there?
It would depend on how much they attribute to piracy and IF that was the only reason for the DRM (preventing used sales is another reason)

Don't know how many servers they have, but if the servers are dedicated to the DRM let's say they are $1500-$2000 each.. Maybe they have 25? Thebandwidth for the monitoring would probably be minimal as would the personnel. They have montioried the existing issue for a day now, not sure if it's fixed or not yet, but that would indicate minimal personnel. Not too mention I doubt very much they hired anyone for this, they probably used existing admins... bandwidth for the verification is also probably not that much either..
Also, they could get away with chear/less servers than I mentioned...
1086  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: March 07, 2010, 10:49:20 PM
You know, for this situation, I don't feel one bit sorry for any of the people who bought this game knowing about the DRM ahead of time.. In fact, I think it serves them right......
I especially like seeing some of the people complaining who kept saying 'no problems here" while other people reported problems...
I hope they are down for a week....
I am really surprised that there are people surprised that this happened.

They currently have 2 games running on the servers, one of which isn't even available in the US yet.... Can't wait to see what happens when the rest of the games come out...
1087  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Just Cause 2- demo due 3-4-10 on: March 06, 2010, 04:16:24 PM
Have the grainy thing as well. Will try the shadow thing, but I think I turned them off.....

Liking the game as a good diversion. Liked the demo enough to pre-order. They should unlock the 30 minute time limit for pre-orders. smile

Having a LOT of trouble doing the double grappling hook thing where you fire one then connect it to something else.. they should have had it where you hold down left buttom to fire 1st one, then while holding down, hit the right mouse button..... You dint have much time between releasing the left button and clicking it again....
1088  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: March 05, 2010, 12:46:31 AM

Quote from: Destructor on March 04, 2010, 02:27:47 PM

And apparently Ubisoft has gone into Damage Control mode:

Quote
You have probably seen rumors on the web that Assassinís Creed II and Silent Hunter 5 have been cracked. Please know that this rumor is false and while a pirated version may seem to be complete at start up, any gamer who downloads and plays a cracked version will find that their version is not complete.

Yeah, it doesn't have any of your bullshit DRM in it, that's what.

With that said, VE3D went on to say (which I haven't poked around enough to verify):

Quote
A spot of clarification: Silent Hunter V: Battle Of The Atlantic has been scene cracked; Assassin's Creed II has supposedly been cracked by someone over in Russia. Applying the scene crack to your legally purchased copy of Silent Hunter V will give you a complete game with none of the Cloud Copy Protection grief. The Russian Assassin's Creed II code floating about may be missing the digitally distributed DLC, which would give the publisher another reason to bandy about the 'incomplete' accusation.

And my bolded part still shows that Ubisoft's DRM has been completely and totally removed by the crackers in the very least.

Well, this means they cant turn around and say bad sales are because of piracy....
1089  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: March 05, 2010, 12:43:00 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on March 04, 2010, 03:41:55 PM

Quote from: hepcat on March 04, 2010, 03:39:29 PM

you can be a professional warez'er?   icon_confused

aaarrgh, yes ye can, so says I, ye just need a eye patch and a parrot.

the pegleg be optional.

They're professionals... They need a tie as well.... And these are hardcore professionals.... I don't think the pegleg is optional....
1090  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: March 04, 2010, 02:58:03 AM
Stolen from another forum, but funny anyway


Head of ubisoft when he found out that SH5 was cracked on Day 1....
1091  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Battlefield: Bad Company 2 to the PC! on: March 03, 2010, 03:18:04 AM
Been downloading since around 2PM.. At 81% now.... About a half hour ago, I got a pop up that Steam has an update and wants me to restart.... Are they out of their minds?
1092  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: March 03, 2010, 12:53:45 AM

Quote from: TiLT on March 02, 2010, 09:49:47 PM

Quote from: Punisher on March 02, 2010, 06:52:55 PM

Quote from: Razgon on March 02, 2010, 06:49:07 PM

Quote from: Punisher on March 02, 2010, 06:44:21 PM

There are rumors that AC2 is cracked already, albeit without the option to save. The game works and runs, just no saves at this point....
No confirmations though

It is...

Haven't seen any confirmations yet myself, besides, it CAN'T be cracked already... This is Ubi's Uber DRM that is here to help us paying customers and stop the pirates....Surely they wouldn't force something this obtrusive on us if it could be cracked this easily.... No, I say it's just a rumor....

You seem to assume that the Ubisoft devs are smarter than the crackers.

Of course they are. They are paid professionals who are only looking out for our best interests.....

Spoiler for Hiden:
As usual, sarcasm doesnt always work on teh InTerNets
1093  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: March 02, 2010, 06:52:55 PM

Quote from: Razgon on March 02, 2010, 06:49:07 PM

Quote from: Punisher on March 02, 2010, 06:44:21 PM

There are rumors that AC2 is cracked already, albeit without the option to save. The game works and runs, just no saves at this point....
No confirmations though

It is...

Haven't seen any confirmations yet myself, besides, it CAN'T be cracked already... This is Ubi's Uber DRM that is here to help us paying customers and stop the pirates....Surely they wouldn't force something this obtrusive on us if it could be cracked this easily.... No, I say it's just a rumor....
1094  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: March 02, 2010, 06:44:21 PM
There are rumors that AC2 is cracked already, albeit without the option to save. The game works and runs, just no saves at this point....
No confirmations though
1095  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Battlefield: Bad Company 2 to the PC! on: March 02, 2010, 06:37:53 PM

Quote from: El-Producto on March 02, 2010, 06:13:01 PM

God I love technology.

Logged in from work with logmein, and BC2 is downloading at home at 1mb/sec.  Ready for when I get home tonight.

Trying the same thing, but steam servers are too busy... Can you disconnect please? smile
1096  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Battlefield: Bad Company 2 to the PC! on: March 02, 2010, 06:24:55 PM

Quote from: Razgon on March 02, 2010, 06:00:12 PM

Quote from: Punisher on March 02, 2010, 03:56:42 PM

Quote from: Razgon on March 02, 2010, 03:34:16 PM

I am very very jealous.....

Be sure to tell us what its like on the PC, and what additional benefits there is to the pc version instead of the ps3 version.

Mouse and keyboard, better graphics.....what else is needed? slywink

I dont care about graphics
Blasphemy!!! This should be a banning offense! slywink
1097  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / god mode, wall hacks, ammo hacks, and more... on: March 02, 2010, 04:15:41 PM
This guy used them all....

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/leomajor.html
1098  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2 Impressions on: March 02, 2010, 03:59:28 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on March 02, 2010, 03:45:12 PM

everyone needs to start bugging Damage for impressions, I know I saw him playing icon_twisted
He's probably waiting for page 2.... hope this helps....
1099  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Battlefield: Bad Company 2 to the PC! on: March 02, 2010, 03:56:42 PM

Quote from: Razgon on March 02, 2010, 03:34:16 PM

I am very very jealous.....

Be sure to tell us what its like on the PC, and what additional benefits there is to the pc version instead of the ps3 version.

Mouse and keyboard, better graphics.....what else is needed? slywink
1100  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Boondock Saints 10th Anniversary Event on: March 02, 2010, 03:07:56 PM

Quote from: Jaddison on March 02, 2010, 01:36:52 PM

For some reason Boondock Saints just felt like a he seen Reservoir Dogs and wanted to make a movie...just not as good.

Another movie I haven't seen...been meaning to see this and pulp fiction...
1101  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Boondock Saints 10th Anniversary Event on: March 02, 2010, 01:33:46 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on March 02, 2010, 03:45:13 AM

(dont' find it odd that someone named Punisher would like it either slywink )

Well, it does fit into my theme.....

Spoiler for Hiden:
I am a little mixed on the ending to part 2 because it's a cliff hanger and I'm not sure if there is going to be a part 3.... I hope so....

Nice mix of action and humor....

Spoiler for Hiden:
and I carry rope in my car too.....
1102  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: March 02, 2010, 02:52:08 AM
I'm guessing 2-3 weeks until it's ready to buy because of:
DOS attacks....
Cracked version released

Hopefully in 2-3  weeks, they'll say "Our bad" and dump the new DRM....  I really hope, so, because there are several games I really wanted...

Additonally, once it's cracked for the 1st game, I expect that every other game will be much easier.... I am going to say 1 week...
1103  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Boondock Saints 10th Anniversary Event on: March 02, 2010, 01:58:56 AM
Well, I saw it for the first time right when part 2 came out...
Me, My wife, and my son all thought it was an awesome movie.... We liked part 2 as well.... This is a good popcorn movie......

Definitely something to see

Edited: to when part 2 came out. I never saw it originally..
1104  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (02/29) on: March 02, 2010, 01:49:36 AM

Quote from: raydude on March 01, 2010, 05:17:08 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on March 01, 2010, 06:36:09 AM

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 for the PC!

I'm going with the "not cool" crowd and buying this for the PC.

No, we're the hip crowd....once everyone else goes PC, then it won't be cool anymore...

BC2 and SC2 on Steam
SH5 on......nothing anymore.....even though Ubisoft is my friend...
1105  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: March 02, 2010, 01:38:41 AM
Well, tomorrow is the big day....
We get to see Ubisoft's awesome DRM in the wild with the release of SH5...

Will it succeed? Will their servers die the first day? Will no one buy it? Will there be a huge volume of returns? How long before it's cracked and teh inTerNet's?

Anyone have a pool going?
1106  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 4100 lumen laser torch flashlight on: March 01, 2010, 03:31:18 AM

Quote from: Destructor on February 28, 2010, 07:22:45 PM

Holy hell that's insanely powerful. Does anybody need that kind of power?

The Doom Marine?
1107  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: February 25, 2010, 02:33:04 PM

Quote from: Greggy_D on February 25, 2010, 12:39:52 PM

I can't believe people are paying 60 bucks for ASScreed2.  Especially with this batshit-crazy DRM.

I'm willing to bet that the majority of people arent aware of the issue, some more are aware of it, but not to the full extent, and some more know, but believe they have the mythical perfect Internet connection...or a dedicated T1 to Ubisoft and the rest are Ubisoft employees trying to keep the rankings up... smile
1108  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: February 24, 2010, 01:38:07 PM

Quote from: Geezer on February 24, 2010, 05:53:02 AM


2) If my my Internet connection goes down and I want to play Silent Hunter 5 and I can't atthat moment, I'm not gonna come here and bitch about it - because my Internet connection will be down slywink
4) Most teeth-gnashing seems to be of the "pirates will get it anyway - DRM just punishes legit users" variety.  We just have a fundamental disconnect there.  you could apply that same logic to any law - lawbreakers will always break laws, those that follow the law will be restricted.  Put another way, is the presence of lawbreakers a good resaon to dispense with law?  "Why put locks on your house?  Someone that wants your stuff will just break in anyway, and you might lose your key and lock yourself out.  It's just not worth it!"
These 2 are related so.....
With this DRM, it's NOT just about being able to start a game at any given time.... It's about being in the middle of the game and getting kicked out of it with no warning.... So again, you are in the middle of a long patrol in SH5, maybe you just spent 20 minutes or so playing... You Internet drops for even a second or two and you game exits with no save. You just lost all that time..
This would be similiar to a business app like a spreadsheet.... You just spent 20 minutes entering data, then you Internet goes down and the spreadsheet exits to desktop and you just lost all that info....Try this type of DRM with your business customers and see how long it lasts...

As for your house analogy, you're right, I wouldn't take my locks off, but using your analogy, this isn't about locks and doors to keep out theives...This is more like:
I put locks, doors, retinal scanners, dna verification, guards, guard dogs, alarms, maybe a moat.... Then I require EVERYONE (friends, family, UPS drivers, etccc) to also call me when on the way in through all of these measures and if their phone call drops at all I release the hounds and kick them back to the entrance to start over...

Quote from: Geezer on February 24, 2010, 05:53:02 AM

3) I think y'all underestimate the value of locking out casual piracy.  Now, maybe those darn kids today are all up on their torrents and stuff, and maybe they know all sorts of ways to break even the best DRM, but I suspect that there are a whole slew of folks out there that don't have a clue about how to pirate if it's not slapping them inthe face

3a) SH5 is going to appeal to sim geeks and history buffs.  Probably and older demographic, in general, and one that is not all hip to the current state of torrent-driven piracy.
This is WAY beyond locking out casual piracy! Casual piracy is pretty much when someone takes their disc and does a straight copy for a friend. This has been stopped for YEARS with even basic copy protection for those people "not all hip to the current state of torrent-driven piracy." There would be no reason for a new DRM for these type of people. Those people who already know how to get cracks would most likely also know where to get the cracked full game in the first place.
1109  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Guns...need info / suggestions on: February 24, 2010, 12:50:54 AM

Quote from: Daehawk on February 23, 2010, 05:38:13 PM

I want something they will hear when I "cha-chunk" it .

You, know, that alone may help...you dont even need to have it loaded....
1110  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: February 23, 2010, 05:54:21 PM

Quote from: hepcat on February 23, 2010, 04:50:23 AM

Quote from: Geezer on February 23, 2010, 02:54:20 AM

Hmm.. This still just doesn't bother me.  I have an always-on connection anyway, and I have other, better devices to entertain me in airports.  I mean, how often is the average gamer sitting on an airplane anyway?
I understand that it's irritating in concept, but in practice, a) I don't pirate games and b) I play PC games at home 99.5% of the time on a solid connection so c) I just won't get worked up over this.  
until the time comes that you're internet is down and you really want to play, or it goes down and you lose a save.
at that point, we'll all try to avoid the "i told you so" replies.
You know, in this case I dont think I would be able to hold back. smile
I don't normally get worked up over DRM, but this is well beyond any reasonable DRM and bordering on insanity... The real issue is that many people will buy the game either unknowingly or with a "it won't happen to me" thing, then if/when it does happen, Ubisoft will already have the money and the customer will be out of theirs (remember you can't really return opened software anywhere). Ubi will still show sales...
1111  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: February 23, 2010, 05:50:17 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on February 23, 2010, 03:22:13 AM

Quote from: Punisher on February 23, 2010, 03:14:11 AM

Remember even if you have a PERFECT Internet connection (which I don't think is even possible.... I am pretty sure that EVERY connection has drops, even if they are only for a second or two), you also need to make surethat your connection is perfect right up to Ubi's servers AND that their servers have 100% uptime....Again, not possible....

If you lose your connection from you to Ubi, even for 1-2 seconds, you can get booted out of your game and lose all progress.. I think PC Gamer tested this by unplugging their ethernet while in AC2 and it booted them out of the game and they lost their progress....

Not that I agree with their methodology, but I can certainly play any number of online games for hours on end with no connection issues.  MMO's, action games, whatever, and I don't get dropped.  And I highly doubt it is the result of a single dropped packet, I'd guess it has to be a sustained connection timeout for several seconds at the least.
During the PC Gamer test they unplugged the ethernet cable to simulate a drop. It instantly kicked them out of the game and back to the menu and lost all of their progress. This was a real world test. Ubisoft themselves have said the same thing in interviews...
Also, Many existing online games, especially MMO's have ways of dealing with dropped packets/connections. They will give you those few seconds to reconnect or you will see lag or rubberbanding, but then get back to normal.
1112  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: February 23, 2010, 03:14:11 AM
Remember even if you have a PERFECT Internet connection (which I don't think is even possible.... I am pretty sure that EVERY connection has drops, even if they are only for a second or two), you also need to make surethat your connection is perfect right up to Ubi's servers AND that their servers have 100% uptime....Again, not possible....

If you lose your connection from you to Ubi, even for 1-2 seconds, you can get booted out of your game and lose all progress.. I think PC Gamer tested this by unplugging their ethernet while in AC2 and it booted them out of the game and they lost their progress....

1113  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: February 23, 2010, 01:20:09 AM

Quote from: hepcat on February 23, 2010, 01:05:30 AM

I'm out.  At first I thought people were just crying wolf.  That this was just a case of internet rumors gone wild.

You do know that this was reported by multiple news outlets....and Ubisoft themselves in various interviews and such?

1114  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft unveils new copy protection system: on: February 22, 2010, 11:27:22 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on February 19, 2010, 06:03:31 PM

Ubi-Spin.

they are our friends.



V2.0 of this DRM will require an always on connection, an always on webcam,  and an always on PC, even when your not playing.
If it drops any of these, it uninstalls your game, if they detect someone else playing the game via the webcam, it uninstalls the game......
V3.0 will come with some sort of electro attachment... You don't want to see the placement diagram...
1115  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Silent Hunter 5 on: February 22, 2010, 11:23:43 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on February 22, 2010, 10:00:33 PM

Quote from: skystride on February 22, 2010, 09:46:58 PM

So is it just a DRM boycott?  I don't think I ever played a game while not connected to the internet so this really wouldn't affect me.

if your connection is down you can't start the game, if it goes down while playing the game will stop, if their servers are down you can't play.

Yep, this is the problem, there is no leeway... This isn't a random check or a once a week check this is a constant all the time check...... So imagine, going on a nice long tour and not saving for a while.... then bam, you router/modem drops for whatever reason or Ubi decides to do server maintenance or their servers go down.... You game then exits and you lose all of you progress.....

On a related note, who has the pool on when the first DDOS attach hits Ubi and noone can play?
1116  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Silent Hunter 5 on: February 22, 2010, 08:29:32 PM

Quote from: Daehawk on February 22, 2010, 05:33:19 PM

Ya Im skipping it because of the having to be connected to the net all the time just to play it.
Ditto....and I was looking forward to it too.....
1117  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Has anyone joined Ubisoft's "Uplay" yet? on: February 21, 2010, 11:15:11 AM

Quote from: jersoc on February 19, 2010, 09:30:13 PM

do you lose your rewards when your internet goes down?

It depends on the game. You will lose different points for each game, but they won't actually let you know how many, you'll have to check with other players.... ninja
1118  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Interesting green screen reel on: February 21, 2010, 04:07:49 AM

Quote from: disarm on February 20, 2010, 09:18:00 PM

yet more proof that you really can't believe anything you see these days...

Yes. In fact KD has actually green screened this whole post!
1119  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2 PC on: February 20, 2010, 03:57:57 PM

Quote from: Vidiot on February 20, 2010, 08:07:52 AM

Did anyone think they would really sell it at less than 50% of the list price?

I don't see why not.... I think that the online stores get away with too much of this type of thing. If you go into a B&M store and they have a price up that doesnt ring up correctly, they have to give it to you.... With the online stores, I see this alot, where they have a good price on something, it generates them traffic and also new leads in the form of customers information, and then they say oh, sorry, we aren't going to give it to, but enjoy your new mailing list...

1120  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Interesting green screen reel on: February 20, 2010, 03:37:02 PM
http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/02/18/dont-believe-everything-you-see-on-tv/?icid=main|main|dl2|link7|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tvsquad.com%2F2010%2F02%2F18%2Fdont-believe-everything-you-see-on-tv%2F


This was pretty cool and shots that I figured were on location weren't....
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