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4681  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: July 10, 2008, 09:30:43 PM

4682  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Welcome Home! on: July 10, 2008, 09:18:58 PM
Does this mean I can't talk smack about this site over on OO behind everyone's back anymore?
4683  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 100 Pushups - 6 week program. Who's in? on: July 08, 2008, 04:31:01 AM

Quote from: wonderpug on July 08, 2008, 03:28:17 AM

Week 1, not bad
Week 2, tougher but still not too bad
Week 3, day 1: WTF?!

I did 36 in the 2nd exhaustion test, which puts me in the 26-30 pushup bracket for week 3.  For the sake of argument let's say I did 26 in the exhaustion test.

The most pushups I can do in a row is 26, and the first set is...25 pushups.

So I'd be pretty much spent right off the bat, then I only get 60 seconds before doing 17, then 17 again, then 15.  For the last set I'm then supposed to do at least 25.  How would this be possible?  If you could barely do more than 25 after a full days rest, how in the world would you hit 25+ after doing 25, 17, 17, 15?  I did 36 in the exhaustion test and I could only manage 25/25, 17/17, 8/17, 12/15, and then just 5 whimpering pushups for the last 25+ set...and that's with breaks longer than 60 seconds before the last couple sets.

I'll still plug away at the program, but the jump for this new week just seems extremely unrealistic.

This was my exact situation tonight since my post week 2 exhaustion test was 27. Week 3 Day 1 sucks ass and I fear Day 2 and 3.
4684  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Want some torture with your peanuts? on: July 08, 2008, 04:10:18 AM
Once we get used to wearing the bracelets on planes we can try it in other places: post offices (no more going postal), bus stations, trains, any government building, the possibilities are endless.
4685  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: GamingTrend Book Club on: July 08, 2008, 03:22:41 AM

Quote from: Doopri on July 08, 2008, 03:01:22 AM

jerks i was in if you picked the black swan - ive considered reading it a few times before and this would have been a great push to get me to do it!

Your first post in this thread is to say we picked the wrong book?  Roll Eyes
4686  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: GamingTrend Book Club on: July 08, 2008, 02:51:34 AM
Alright, let's get this rolling with our first book. I will start the discussion thread at the end of July.

The Chinatown Death Cloud Peril
Paul Malmont

From Publishers Weekly
Malmont's debut thriller reads like pages torn from the pulp magazines to which it pays nostalgic homage. It's 1937, and the nation's two top pulp writers—William Gibson, author of novels featuring caped crime fighter "The Shadow," and Lester Dent, the creator of do-gooder hero Doc Savage—are trying to solve real-life mysteries that each hopes will give him bragging rights as the world's best yarn spinner. Gibson follows rumors that pulp colleague H.P. Lovecraft was murdered to the fog-shrouded Providence, R.I., waterfront. Dent tracks clues to an impossible killing through the bowels of New York's Chinatown. As the two adventures dovetail, they spawn sinuous subplots involving tong wars, secret chemical warfare, pirate mercenaries, kidnappings, revolution in China and weird science run amok. Lovecraft, L. Ron Hubbard, Louis L'Amour and Chester Himes all play prominent supporting roles and offer piquant observations on the penny-a-word writing life that conjure a colorful sense of time and place. Like the pulpsters he reveres, Malmont doesn't let the facts get in the way of his storytelling, and the result is a fun, if wildly improbable, pulp joyride.
4687  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: July 08, 2008, 01:14:03 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 08, 2008, 01:00:48 AM

I always knew that ass shot would come back to haunt me.....

and us
4688  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Can we get... on: July 07, 2008, 09:58:29 PM

Quote from: ROTC1983 on June 27, 2008, 05:19:26 AM

Or maybe we can filter out Ceekay? Tongue

Then we'd lose half of this Forum's posts. Imagine the sanity.
4689  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Jesse Helms RIP on: July 07, 2008, 09:17:05 PM

Quote from: Geezer on July 07, 2008, 08:57:52 PM

Judging a person by one reprehensible act is easy.  More likely, Kennedy is, like all of us, the result of innumerable life experiences that all interact in one way or another, and to flatly state that one act is the sum of a person is silly.

True, one act is not the sum total of a person, but leaving a woman at the bottom of a pond is certainly an indication.
4690  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Jesse Helms RIP on: July 07, 2008, 08:48:09 PM

Quote from: Brendan on July 07, 2008, 08:35:27 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on July 07, 2008, 08:03:29 PM

So I guess it's OK to say negative things about Jesse Helms upon his death, but not about Ted Kennedy re: brain cancer?

When did Ted Kennedy die?

His soul died on July 19, 1969.
4691  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Wearing a hat means the terrorists win on: July 07, 2008, 08:44:58 PM
Pubs in Yorkshire have been ordered to ban people from wearing flat caps or other hats so troublemakers can be more easily recognized. This whole CCTV issue just feels like the proverbial pot of water slowly being heated up until we're suddenly sitting in boiling water. Is there such a thing as private property where the owner has a say in what customers can and cannot do at his establishment? They start these policies in public places like an airport or post office and once we're comfortable with that intrusion its moved into banks and now bars.
4692  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: GamingTrend Book Club on: July 07, 2008, 08:32:25 PM
Any other book suggestions before I draw a random person's name to pick our July book?
4693  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Is there any give in you? on: July 07, 2008, 06:36:32 PM
Read all about it.
4694  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fourth of July Reflections on: July 07, 2008, 12:54:02 PM
It wasn't until this thread derailed into football that it was moved to P&RN?   icon_confused
4695  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fourth of July Reflections on: July 06, 2008, 04:22:23 PM

Quote from: IceBear on July 06, 2008, 04:11:06 PM

I still think Democracy came about before the American Revolution,

For sure, but what about "modern" democracy, however that should be defined from things like Athens in 500 BCE?
4696  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 100 Pushups - 6 week program. Who's in? on: July 06, 2008, 04:10:57 PM
After two weeks I moved my exhaustion test from 20 to 27. I had considered sandbagging it to under 25. Those level 3 intensity numbers scare me.
4697  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fourth of July Reflections on: July 06, 2008, 04:07:43 PM

Quote from: Razgon on July 06, 2008, 12:16:59 PM

And no, you people didnt establish the foundations of modern democracy - sorry to bust your bubble there.

Who did? Depending on how you measure the influence of the monarchy in England, I believe the U.S. has the longest running modern government. That kind of staying power over the last 216 years should count for something.
4698  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fourth of July Reflections on: July 06, 2008, 03:12:03 PM

Quote from: hepcat on July 06, 2008, 02:28:07 PM

i personally prefer to see Off Topic remain full of goofy, fun posts and personal stories of car trouble, health issues and sexual dysfunction. 

Can you recommend an HDTV for me?
4699  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fourth of July Reflections on: July 06, 2008, 02:29:20 AM
I was rushing to finish my post and get to an appointment I remembered while driving the American Indians. Although not nearly to the raw numbers of Holodomor and Jewish pogroms our actions toward the native population was less than humanitarian. I stand by my point though asking you to explain why the French and Russian Revolutions were so much better than the U.S. version. The typical formula of all revolutions is that minority groups rise up against a common enemy (e.g., George III or Tzar Nicholas II). Once that enemy has been vanquished the strongest of the minority groups or individuals (e.g., Stalin and Napoleon) takes over and becomes the new ruling power usually as ruthless or more so than the previous thugs until another batch up minority groups rise up. I don't think Washington gets enough credit for not becoming a military dictator during the Revolution, not becoming a military dictator after the Revolution and stepping down after two terms in office BEFORE he died. If he had stuck around for a 3rd term and died in office that would have set a terrible precedence. Instead every single President until Teddy never ran for more than 2 terms. As vicious as the debates and rhetoric was between the political parties the only real act of violence between the Founders after they won the revolution was between Hamilton and Burr.
4700  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fourth of July Reflections on: July 05, 2008, 07:57:55 PM

Quote from: CSL on July 05, 2008, 11:24:21 AM

Quote from: Drazzil on July 05, 2008, 06:07:40 AM

I have been pondering this great document and the History of the United States of America for a while now.

No you haven't
Love the irony here when your very next statement is: "That couldn't have come off any more as any more cocky." Grammar check, ahem. I guess you really mean to say that Drazzil has a different viewpoint than the Noted Historian and is therefore wrong.

Quote from: CSL on July 05, 2008, 11:24:21 AM

Quote from: Drazzil
This delcaration of independance is a truly revolutionary concept.
unlike the French or Russian revolutions it doesn't signficantly transfer political power from one group or class to another - look at who posses political power before the American Revolution and after - rich southern planters, northerm merchants, etc. Political power remains in the same place. Just take a look at the 1792 election when you have a total of just over 13,000 votes, this isn't highly democratic or revolutionary by any nature. Lets just forget the plight of African-Americans for a second - even after the American Revolution about half of white males didn't have the vote.
Are you really holding up the French and Russian revolutions as some kind of ideal over the U.S. revolution? Maybe you can point me to the American version of The Terror and explain away Napoleon's power grab of this Republic turning it back into a Monarchy? What happened in America? Oh that's right, Washington turns down ultimate power even though it was offered to him multiple times setting the Revolutionary precedence of transfer of power when your political party loses the election. As for the Russian revolution, come on now, CSL. We both know that political power didn't get transferred anywhere. You just had a new group of thugs take over the government and start slaughtering their own scapegoat. Please point me to the American equivalent of Holodomor or let's talk about everyone's favorite scapegoat: 70,000 to 250,000 civilian Jews killed during your lovely Revolution of 1917.

Quote from: CSL on July 05, 2008, 11:24:21 AM

I've never been a huge proponent of the American "Revolution" no matter what some such as Calvin might say. In my opinion it isn't revolutionary - political and economic power stayed with the same elements of society. The only large transferrence of power was political, and this only from one side of the Atlantic to the other.
You're missing the thing that was truly revolutionary about the American revolution: the godless Constitution. They didn't even give god a token reference like "Providence" or "Him". They were a group of, yes, white men who said the basis of government is the voluntary association of people with common rights based upon their humanity and not because god authorized it. Did it include everyone? Nope. Not even a majority of people since only land owning whiteys could vote. That's not the point though. It created a framework for things like the 13th, 15th and 19th Amendments. And even when we do something stupid like the 18th Amendment we can fix it with the 21st. Aren't living documents awesome that way.

Quote from: CSL on July 05, 2008, 11:24:21 AM

Quote from: Drazzil
Throughout the last fifteen hundred years by and large one extended family held stead over the entire western world.
Getting ahead of yourself. You paint too large a brush by saying that all of Europe was ruled by one family, maybe read a book or two about European history - besides America has had its own issues about certain families or classes of having a preponderance of political or economic power.
Dude. Get off your elitist horse. He said "by and large" and you said "all". There is a difference. Depending on when you take your snapshot I would say the Holy Roman Empire did cover most Europe for 1500 years. This of course depends on how you define the "western world" and "held stead", but its not a completely outrageous statement.

Quote from: CSL on July 05, 2008, 11:24:21 AM

Quote from: Drazzil
Your role was whatever you were born into and that is what you were. History up until that moment was a mismash of stop and start efforts, slow and sometimes non existant writings on the role of a man in the world.

The American Revolution changed these how? Economically the advancement of newcomers in America was always less to do with the American Revolution that with the lack of an established herierchacal order in America as opposed to Europe, at least in the first few centuries.
You answered your own question. The U.S. created a framework where the grandson of Irish immigrants can become one of those "certain families or classes of having a preponderance of political or economic power". And if you think that has changed then maybe you can explain the success of this Russian Jew immigrant.

Quote from: CSL on July 05, 2008, 11:24:21 AM

Quote from: Drazzil
Democracy on a limited basis had been tried in Greece and the Roman Republic but it was nothing like what had been penned and signed in the British Colonies Virginia, New Jersey, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, New York, Maryland,Connecticut,Rhode Island,Delaware and North Carolina. The scope of this had yet to be stated yet to be even imagined.

Democracy had been better practiced in Greece - Rome had never pretended to be a Democracy but a Republic. Nor has the United States pretended to be a Democracy, but a Republic. At least examine the issue of suffrage and the certain lack of it within Amerca up till the start of the twentieth century.
Yeah, yeah, the U.S. isn't a Democracy, but a Republic. This is a common mistake and one elitists live to jump on us less enlightened about.

Quote from: CSL on July 05, 2008, 11:24:21 AM

Quote from: Drazzil
What had been up until then a slow trickle of ideas on the rights of man had turned into a deluge and then a torrent as the news of this revolution and founding of a nation based on the ideas penned above rang like a hammer on a bell. The nations of Europe filled with their dusty ideals of the rights and priveledges of arisocracy and the downtrodden many sat up and took notice, and were forced to change the way they conducted government themselves.

Did you copy this from a sxith grade history book? You've got a core idea that is somewhat right, but could it sound more nationalist? I'm still basing this on a perhap more than slightly leftist view, but its clear that rights in every country have always been based upon who had wealth, prestige, and power than anything else and the United States has certainly not changed this fundamentally.
You keep reminding me of this scene from "Good Will Hunting". As for whether the U.S. has changed anything fundamentally I would ask the 80% of the first generation millionaires.
4701  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fourth of July Reflections on: July 05, 2008, 06:51:47 PM

Quote from: Laner on July 05, 2008, 04:01:35 PM

we'll have none of this pro-America talk here.
That's so 2002.

Can individual citizens be trusted to celebrate Independence Day with a bang? This is a great read on the history of Fireworks during the 4th of July.

Outside of hardcore porn, is there any art form as static as a Fourth of July fireworks display? Once you’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all, yet year after year, like stoned zombies staring at screensavers, we tilt our heads to the sky and watch amateurs and professionals alike stage the pyrotechnical equivalents of gang bangs.

4702  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / America #1 - how many hot dogs did you eat today? on: July 04, 2008, 10:52:36 PM
Joey Chestnut successfully defends hot dog eating title at Coney Island, winning in overtime.
4703  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Jesse Helms RIP on: July 04, 2008, 10:16:33 PM
Former Republican N.C. Sen. Jesse Helms dies at 86

Former Sen. Jesse Helms, who built a career along the fault lines of racial politics and battled liberals, Communists and the occasional fellow Republican during 30 conservative years in Congress, died on the Fourth of July. He was 86.

"Compromise, hell! That's what has happened to us all down the line - and that's the very cause of our woes. If freedom is right and tyranny is wrong, why should those who believe in freedom treat it as if it were a roll of bologna to be bartered a slice at a time?" - Helms writing in 1959 on compromise in politics.

"To rob the Negro of his reputation of thinking through a problem in his own fashion is about the same as trying to pretend that he doesn't have a natural instinct for rhythm and for singing and dancing." - Helms responding in 1956 to criticism that a fictional black character in his newspaper column was offensive.

"The destruction of this country can be pinpointed in terms of its beginnings to the time that our political leadership turned to socialism. They didn't call it socialism, of course. It was given deceptive names and adorned with fancy slogans. We heard about New Deals, and Fair Deals and New Frontiers and the Great Society." - From a Helms editorial at WRAL-TV in Raleigh.

"I shall always remember the shady streets, the quiet Sundays, the cotton wagons, the Fourth of July parades, the New Year's Eve firecrackers. I shall never forget the stream of school kids marching uptown to place flowers on the Courthouse Square monument on Confederate Memorial Day." - Helms writing in 1956 on life in his hometown of Monroe, N.C.

"I'm so old-fashioned I believe in horse whipping." - During a debate in 1991 on an AIDS-related amendment.
4704  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / The clown is dead, long live the clown on: July 04, 2008, 02:19:40 PM
Larry Harmon, longtime Bozo the Clown, dead at 83

Pinto Colvig, who provided the voice for Walt Disney's Goofy, was the first Bozo the Clown, a character created by writer-producer Alan W. Livingston for a series of children's records in 1946. Livingston said he came up with the name Bozo after polling several people at Capitol Records.

Harmon would later meet his alter ego while answering a casting call to make personal appearances as a clown to promote the records.

He got that job and eventually bought the rights to Bozo. Along the way, he embellished Bozo's distinctive look: the orange-tufted hair, the bulbous nose, the outlandish red, white and blue costume.
4705  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: GamingTrend Book Club on: July 04, 2008, 02:11:26 PM

Quote from: DragonFyre on July 04, 2008, 05:21:42 AM

Can we post a little blurb for the lazier among us so that we can see what the votes are based on? Like maybe the amazon summary.
The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable
Bestselling author Nassim Nicholas Taleb continues his exploration of randomness in his fascinating new book, The Black Swan, in which he examines the influence of highly improbable and unpredictable events that have massive impact. Engaging and enlightening, The Black Swan is a book that may change the way you think about the world, a book that Chris Anderson calls, "a delightful romp through history, economics, and the frailties of human nature."

The Cult of the Presidency: America's Dangerous Devotion to Executive Power

The Bush years have justifiably given rise to fears of a new Imperial Presidency. Yet despite the controversy surrounding the administration's expansive claims of executive power, both Left and Right agree on the boundless nature of presidential responsibility. The Imperial Presidency is the price we seem to be willingly and dangerously agreeable to pay the office the focus of our national hopes and dreams. Interweaving historical scholarship, legal analysis, and cultural commentary, The Cult of the Presidency argues that the Presidency needs to be reined in, its powers checked and supervised, and its wartime authority put back under the oversight of the Congress and the courts. Only then will we begin to return the Presidency to its proper constitutionally limited role.
4706  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movies] Wanted impressions on: July 03, 2008, 04:53:27 PM

Quote from: rittchard on June 30, 2008, 08:55:10 PM

What I think is understated about the movie is just how good a cast they assembled.  The material is only so good, but with a lesser cast it would be harder to swallow.  I am a total James McAvoy fanboy now, and while most reviews seem to ignore/dismiss his performance here, I think he is what carries the movie and makes it believable from a character standpoint.  He plays the nobody nerd to perfection, conveys fear and pain from being tortured perfectly, and shifts to the sexy hero effortlessly.  And man, those beautiful blue eyes... oh yeah  nod   Angelina Jolie is good, too, giving an almost understated performance yet standing out in all of her scenes.  I read she deliberately removed a lot of her dialog while filming, and it works - she conveys so much with just a single look.

"The material is only so good" is another way of saying it was terrible. I got drowsy and practically fell asleep during this action movie.  Can they have been more predictable turning scared little nerd boy into confident action hero with a few days of matrix boot camp training?
Spoiler for Hiden:
I don't care how much adrenaline you have, nobody is jumping through a high rise window with enough momentum to carry them across the street to the next building while firing away on their guns.
4707  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / GamingTrend Book Club on: July 03, 2008, 04:42:07 PM
I am checking interest in having a Book Club here. Here are some ideas of how it could work.

People make suggestions for a book that the group could read. After 24 or 48 hours if there is a clear consensus we will pick that book for the month. If there are multiple suggestions then I will draw a random name from the group of people signed up to pick the book for the month.

At the end of that time a thread is started where everyone can make their comments on the book. If someone doesn't finish the book in time for the thread they can always respond later after they finished it.

Let me know if you're interested and your suggested reading. My suggestions:
The Black Swan by Nassim Nicholas Taleb
The Cult of the Presidency by Gene Healy

The Chinatown Death Cloud Peril
The Black Swan
4708  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How did you discover the GT forums? Through the front page? on: July 03, 2008, 04:30:35 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on July 03, 2008, 03:33:08 PM

How did you find GT during the outage and how did you find OO before that?

Chesspieceface had been trying to get me to Gone Gold and OO for a couple of years. I finally relented in Sept 2006. During the OOutage I heard about GT, Popehat, Gamers With Jobs and QT3 from PeteRock and Chesspieceface (though I think he goes by a different name at GT and never returned after the Gold selling ads incident).

I banned myself from Popehat so I split my time 80% at GT and 20% at OO.
4709  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How did you discover the GT forums? Through the front page? on: July 03, 2008, 03:28:17 PM
Looks like I am the only outsider who didn't come from Gone Gold. I didn't find out about this place until OO went down.
4710  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] The Mutant Chronicles on: July 02, 2008, 06:29:32 PM
War. War never changes.
4711  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: DEWmocracy Contest - Old School vs. New School on: July 02, 2008, 04:56:04 PM
old school: Joust because nothing is cooler than flying on the back of an ostrich stabbing people with a giant spear or bouncing on top of their heads. Beware of the Shadow Lords.   ninja

PC title (post 2000): The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind because the game set new standards for immersion and modability. Making the game easy to mod allowed the gamer community to take the game in directions the original developers couldn't imagine on their own. Being thrown out into the wide open world was both daunting and exciting.
4712  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: July 02, 2008, 03:43:09 PM

4713  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Hancock trailer (previously known as Tonight he Comes) on: July 02, 2008, 03:19:45 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on July 02, 2008, 02:25:08 PM

All hail PeteRock.

So say we all!

So say we all
4714  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Photography] - Omaha Storms (Not 56K friendly) on: July 02, 2008, 05:38:10 AM
awesome colors
4715  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: gay marriage = CA fires on: July 01, 2008, 07:05:08 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on July 01, 2008, 06:42:05 PM

The part I like most about the Y.E.C. idea is that the same reasoning used to infer that the Earth is only about 10,000 years old could just as easily be used to show that the planet suddenly appeared in 1993, with all of the photographs, records, history books, and personal memories individually crafted by God beforehand to test our ability to see His Truth through this masterful illusion.

FSM came first having created the Universe 48,000 years ago.
4716  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Name that movie on: July 01, 2008, 12:28:40 PM
The future is looking good. No clue on the movie.
4717  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: gay marriage = CA fires on: July 01, 2008, 05:04:42 AM

Quote from: ATB on June 30, 2008, 10:25:39 PM

Fringe rant = Poor post topics.

I'm not sure how you define "fringe". This type of thing is quite common.
4718  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 100 Pushups - 6 week program. Who's in? on: July 01, 2008, 04:47:21 AM

Quote from: CSL on July 01, 2008, 04:00:10 AM

Initial Test: 20

Week 1 - Day 1:
Week 1 - Day 2:
Week 1 - Day 3:

Week 2 - Day 1:
Week 2 - Day 2:
Week 2 - Day 3:

Week 3 - Day 1:
Week 3 - Day 2:
Week 3 - Day 3:

Week 4 - Day 1:
Week 4 - Day 2:
Week 4 - Day 3:

Week 5 - Day 1:
Week 5 - Day 2:
Week 5 - Day 3:

Week 6 - Day 1:
Week 6 - Day 2:
Week 6 - Day 3:

Tracking thread
4719  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 100 Pushups - 6 week program. Who's in? on: July 01, 2008, 04:46:22 AM

Quote from: warning on June 29, 2008, 02:00:21 AM

Done with week one.  Woke up with my wrist hurting this a.m. so I might have to resort to using dumbbells if this continues.

Or do girl push ups until your wrist gets more used to it.
4720  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / gay marriage = CA fires on: June 30, 2008, 06:26:59 PM
What a surprise! This Christian blames the CA fires on god's wrath against gay marriage.

Best reader comment:

Guess who’s in charge of the electrical department?

Ancient Near East
* Teshub (Hurrian mythology)
* Adad, Ishkur, Marduk (Babylonian-Assyrian mythology)
* Hadad (Levantine mythology)

* Perkwunos (Indo-European mythology)
o Tarhunt (Hittite/Luwian mythology)
o Zeus, Brontes (Greek mythology)
o Jupiter, Summanus (Roman mythology)
o Indra, Parjanya (Hindu mythology)
o Taranis (Pan-Celtic); Ambisagrus, Leucetios, (Gaulish mythology)
o *Þunraz (Germanic mythology; Anglo-Saxon Þunor, German Donar, Norse Þórr); and Thor (Norse mythology)
o *Perkunos (Balto-Slavic; Lithuanian Perkūnas, Slavic Per(k)un )
o Perëndi (Albanian mythology)
o Gebeleizis (Dacian mythology)
o Zibelthiurdos (Thracian mythology)
o Ukko or Perkele (Finnish mythology)
* Horagalles (Sami mythology)
* Aplu (Etruscan mythology)

East Asia

* Lei Gong (Chinese mythology)
* Ajisukitakahikone, Raijin (Raiden-sama, Kaminari-sama), Tenjin (kami) (Japanese mythology)
* Susanoo (Japanese Mythology)


* Thunderbird (Native American mythology)
* Xolotl (Aztec and Toltec mythology)
* Chaac (Maya mythology)
* Apocatequil (Incan mythology)
* Cocijo (Mexican mythology)
* Aktzin (Mexican mythology)
* Jasso (Mexican mythology)
* Haokah (Lakota mythology)
* Tupã (Guaraní mythology, Brazil)


* Set (god) (Egyptian mythology)
* Shango (Yorùbá mythology)
* Oya (goddess of thunder, Yoruba mythology)
* Azaka-Tonnerre (Voodoo)
* Mulungu
* Xevioso (alternately: Xewioso, Heviosso. Thunder god of the So region)

South Pacific

* Haikili (Polynesian mythology)
* Tawhaki (Polynesian mythology)
* Kaha'i (Polynesian mythology)
* Uira (Polynesian mythology)

OK, I give up. Which one?
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