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241  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: John McCain is a turtle. Barack Obama is a zerg. on: June 25, 2008, 06:30:26 PM
Aw, I wanna play that game now.
242  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: When was the last time someone changed your mind on an P/RN topic? on: June 25, 2008, 07:29:03 AM

Quote from: helot2000 on June 25, 2008, 03:06:15 AM

Quote from: YellowKing on June 25, 2008, 02:54:00 AM

... I enjoy seeing viewpoints from the other side. The only thing that disappoints me at times is that in a predominantly liberal forum like this, conservative viewpoints often get a knee-jerk negative response. 
+1. 

I wouldn't bother visiting if I couldn't find a variety of opinions.   R&P would be dreadfully boring if it became an echo chamber.


Amen to that. But also, I don't think it'd be fun chatting on boards frequented by people that were incapable of having an open mind to other ideals. Well, I like to hope that is what goes on, anyway.
243  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Everyone in this forum please read on: June 24, 2008, 06:07:26 PM
It's always the same handful of people peeing in the pool...
244  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: When was the last time someone changed your mind on an P/RN topic? on: June 24, 2008, 05:58:10 PM
I'd say year 2 or 3 in the Bush presidency on about 100 topics. Also, a few years ago+ (I did take an almost 2 year break from posting), MSD and a handful of others showed me the light on gun control, a topic I really knew nothing about. It's happened quite a few times, actually.
245  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 24, 2008, 08:47:09 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 23, 2008, 01:21:14 PM

Quote from: McBa1n on June 23, 2008, 07:11:28 AM

The neocon arm of the Republican party built it's core over racism fear mongering (before the democrats owned it prior, especially in the south). It's pretty well documented and runs back to HW Bush's run for Senate back in the 60s. A bunch of 'country club' Republicans were able to turn a tiny party in Texas into a major contender through such tactics, it's the base of the party's votes...

But Obama is correct in what he is saying. Any idiot can figure out any opponent he goes up against will have people working behind the scenes to make him look like a 'terrorist' or play up the fact he's black - and associates with 'black radicals', the scariest people on the planet! Other democrats have used his race and upbringing against him indirectly tons already - I don't know why it's so shocking to hear him saying that. Actually - it's redundant for him to say. Everyone knows that's the best way to beat him - since it's always worked due to our national retardation and hypocracy that we are 'all created equal'. This country has come a long way in terms of race/gender/religion, but it's nowhere near the bullshit we're fed. He's black, his middle name is "Hussein" and I've seen both references enough to make me sick to my stomach. He's a man, just like McCain -- and he's running for President, that's all that SHOULD matter, but for some reason that has nothing to do with what's going on. 'McCain is old'. blah - same crap. Why does it matter? Do news shows have nothing else to talk about?

No they don't.    All of the new organizations make their living from filling time on cable stations that run continuously 24 hours a day.   The networks, on the flip side, constantly try to steal attention and ratings from the cable stations in the shorter time they have airtime to talk.  This is asking for dumb things to be said, and dumb ideas to be covered.

And worse yet, dumb things for us to get pissed off about and yap about on the internet heh. It's funny because it's true. I bet our discourse on the boards was a lot better a few years+ back. I mean, the bickering/partisan crap went on, but it seems like more talk on issues went on - and that was really helpful to get a good perspective on something. It seems stupid news stories fan the flames now almost exclusively.

At any rate, I really wish the race/"Hussein"/McCain age issues would just go away already and they focus on issues - that's what it SHOULD be about. At least there's been some good debate on energy and the economy (well, for this stage of the game) recently.
246  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Bush calls for congress to open areas for drilling on: June 23, 2008, 09:31:12 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on June 23, 2008, 09:22:03 PM

Quote from: Doopri on June 23, 2008, 09:16:09 PM

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I saw an interview with the head of Shell who said their studies indicated that they could make wind turbines profitable and he thought that in two decades wind turbines could generate as much as 20% of our electricity if we started on it now.  But he said there were already environmentalists up in arms over wind turbines

i have to cry bs on this one.  activists have been calling for greater use of wind energy for years now.  if by "environmentalists" this guy means fat cats with beachfront property in cape cod, i respond anyone who wants to save a species to upholster his / her jaguars interior with bald eagle feathers or wear a rare colored chinchilla as a coat, is probably NOT an "environmentalist" (yes i know broad generalization, but i thought it was more funny this way smile)

as far as more drilling land... if anyone is interested in light research, check out how much public land has been ceded for exploration thus far. also check out how much has undergone any type of development, or hell even exploratory drilling.  then reconsider if now is the time to cede more land.  (you MAY have to go to transcripts of committee hearings - which may be at a local university library - which may push this little project out of the realm of light, by requiring more effort than google - but maybe not im not sure)

Actually some environmentalists are opposed to wind turbines because of problems with birds getting killed by them, so opposition to them is somewhat more widespread then just fatcats on cape cod with beachfront property.

Don't forget they kill bats, also! What I don't get is most 'Republican' arguments that I see (Steve Forbes being the most recent) in opposition to wind power bring up the bird/bat argument most. That doesn't make sense to me, unless he's got a phat crib in Cape Cod or something.
247  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 08:59:56 PM

Quote from: Electronic Dan on June 23, 2008, 04:10:57 PM

Quote from: McBa1n on June 23, 2008, 07:11:28 AM

He's a man, just like McCain -- and he's running for President, that's all that SHOULD matter,

Hillary was right!    eek  icon_wink



Lmao, I totally just got so busted right there. Funny. Well done, sir, well done.
248  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 08:45:46 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 23, 2008, 02:01:09 PM

Quote from: McBa1n on June 23, 2008, 07:11:28 AM

'McCain is old'. blah - same crap. Why does it matter? Do news shows have nothing else to talk about?

Using the Social Security Administration's own life expectancy table, McCain has a 15.2% chance of dying in his first term and a 37.25% chance of dying within two terms.  This, of course, does not take into account McCain's own medical history (both good and bad), nor the effects of the stress caused by the job, nor the effects of the ravages of time on the mind.  Using the same table, Obama has a 1.85% chance of dying while in his first term.

While age certainly won't decide my vote, 15% is statistically important enough to be a factor worth discussing.


EDIT: Interestingly enough, the AP has a piece on the racial issue today.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/23/obama.ads.ap/index.html


He's still qualified to run, though. He's a sell-out buttyboy, but he is qualified. Age discrimination is a big issue where I live (and impacts my folks in their old age) and it's something that really ticks me off. It's wrong. He's old enough  for age to be a concern, but not enough to impact a vote - it's not like he's driving his cars into other people's houses due to age. Also, with that entourage and the best socialized medicine money can buy, he'll be fine. Someone not voting for McCain due to age, to me, is just as bad as someone not voting for Obama because he's black... If McCain was too old or not fit to run, he wouldn't have.
249  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 07:11:28 AM
The neocon arm of the Republican party built it's core over racism fear mongering (before the democrats owned it prior, especially in the south). It's pretty well documented and runs back to HW Bush's run for Senate back in the 60s. A bunch of 'country club' Republicans were able to turn a tiny party in Texas into a major contender through such tactics, it's the base of the party's votes...

But Obama is correct in what he is saying. Any idiot can figure out any opponent he goes up against will have people working behind the scenes to make him look like a 'terrorist' or play up the fact he's black - and associates with 'black radicals', the scariest people on the planet! Other democrats have used his race and upbringing against him indirectly tons already - I don't know why it's so shocking to hear him saying that. Actually - it's redundant for him to say. Everyone knows that's the best way to beat him - since it's always worked due to our national retardation and hypocracy that we are 'all created equal'. This country has come a long way in terms of race/gender/religion, but it's nowhere near the bullshit we're fed. He's black, his middle name is "Hussein" and I've seen both references enough to make me sick to my stomach. He's a man, just like McCain -- and he's running for President, that's all that SHOULD matter, but for some reason that has nothing to do with what's going on. 'McCain is old'. blah - same crap. Why does it matter? Do news shows have nothing else to talk about?
250  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] Death Race with Jason Statham on: June 17, 2008, 09:08:31 PM
Oh yeah! I love his movies (outside of the first Transporter). Shameless adrenaline and fun. Can't beat it.
251  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Jeebus, Tim Russert died on: June 17, 2008, 05:40:26 PM
Yeah - Fox News was all over him yesterday. Give the guy some respect, gee whiz. He's not even buried yet.
252  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: First new baby goat on: June 17, 2008, 07:31:20 AM
Congrats, man - that's pretty damn sweet.
253  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Supreme Court Smacks Bushies Again... on: June 16, 2008, 09:51:25 PM
McCain has been in favor of these anti-constitution programs. It's one of the biggest reasons people out in the SW here are putting the states into play come election time, when they should be heavy favorites for him...
254  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Tim Russert dead? on: June 13, 2008, 07:44:41 PM
Shocking news. Horrible news. He's a class act all the way. RIP, Tim, we will miss you.
255  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: In Defense of Hall & Oates on: June 13, 2008, 07:43:33 PM
Haha - I used to live on the "other" side of the lake from where John Oates lived (i.e. the low rent side). That mofo had some loud ass parties. I approve of your message though. Haha - how dorky to say, but it's true. Mmmm..guilty pleasure.
256  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: I'm Voting Republican on: June 13, 2008, 06:31:56 PM
I think the point is lost, though. There's no accountability for those that have stayed with the Republican side, even though the party has been hijacked. It's easy to point the blame both ways, our system is designed that way - but who is leading it? I think the right has a lot more crow to eat... This country is in a lot worse shape than it was 7+ years ago in several ways. Who is benefitting, though? Not the majority of the nation, that's for certain. Maybe if there was more humility in those that are Republican, the discourse might be better. I can't really engage either way, I bailed out of the Republican Party since it no longer serves the ideals it was about when I joined the party.

I think it's wrong, though, to say Republicans are not informed. That's silly. A person's ideals are what they are. There's sheep on both sides of the coin and informed people as well. I just don't like seeing Republicans cry foul, though, when their side has really screwed the pooch many many times over the last years and then talk shit to the other side. Dems are just as dirty - but they also weren't in charge when Katrina devastated this country. They also didn't make up crap to get our soliders killed in Iraq. To me, those 2 things are unforgiveable and no one wants to stand up and say "what happened to my Republican Party?" It's crazy to think they can fix this mess they have us in. It's unbelievable that the steps taken have done nothing but make things worse. It's so easy to lose sight of the big picture - and that big picture is pretty crappy for most people.
257  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: I'm Voting Republican on: June 13, 2008, 03:46:49 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on June 13, 2008, 03:36:03 PM

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When the issues are rationally discussed, the outcome is that the Republicans' positions are often shown to be illogical, irrational, fearful and deceptive.  As such, I'd rather have the in-depth analysis of such issues and let the Democrats' ideas stand on their own.  I'm very confident with the outcome of such a debate.

You can't have a true in-depth analysis of the issues and the other party's position if you automatically start out calling their positions illogical, irrational, fearful, and deceptive. The sheer condescending air of moral superiority that liberals exude every time they open their mouths is what pisses me off more than their policy positions. You're like the Apple fanboys of the political world.

LOL PWNED.
It's hard for Republicans to exude moral superiority, though. That's one thing a Democrat will always have over a Republican... And probably the only thing. I just registered Democrat for the first time in my life (to caucus in Nevada) - so CLEARLY, I also now hold the moral highground. Haha - man that hurt me to type, even if I was just joking.

Also, I think the comedy in that bit is not so much that those are Republican positions. There are a lot of things in there, though, that they use as tactics. In fact, that's how today's neocon came to be - it all started with jim crow race baiting and fear tactics. I think that pokes more fun at the neocon that has hijacked my old Republican party...
258  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: I'm Voting Republican on: June 13, 2008, 02:43:34 PM
Man, that was really funny.
259  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Euro 2008 on: June 12, 2008, 09:42:20 PM
Yeah, Poland was unimpressive and ticking me off good (I had money on them). Austria had 2-3 A+++ chances early and couldn't score. I was wondering if the Polish D had even played soccer before. The goalie was unbelieveable. Neither team is very good - but that penalty at the end was suspect. I'm shocked the referee made the call. That was a gift result for Austria, although they should've buried Poland.

4 very good matchups over the next 2 days. I'm really looking forward to the Spain/Sweden game on Saturday... But it's hard not to get pumped up for the 'group of death' games tommorrow. Sadly, I can't see the Italy/Romania game live - stupid RL.
260  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Euro 2008 on: June 12, 2008, 06:27:51 PM
Yeah, Germany was... well... I'd say they played the worst game of any team in the tournament so far. Just horrible. I'm sick to my stomach after that one. While watching the game I was thinking to myself - Croatia just doesn't look dangerous at all (even as bad as Germany was playing at the time) and BANG, they score. Stupid brain.
261  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: (Sports) Donaghy docs allege refs altered games on: June 12, 2008, 05:18:57 AM
I think the vast amount of opinions say a LOT. Officiating collusion goes on way way way back, however, in the NBA, it really became focused when Jordan showed up. The Sacremento game that is in question is one of the worst of all time - any sports fan remembers that... But I think what it comes down to is - we all want to watch a square game in hoops on a professional level. It's hilarious that the point has been brought up multiple times that you KNOW who will win and the 'calls' satisfy that.

Sorry, the system is VERY corrupt and has been for over a decade+. In just WATCHING games (ESPN classic does run pre-jordan era games), you see a MASSIVE difference. I really want to watch the NBA, and I actually tried this season - and the same thing happened. Lebron and Kobe and Garnett get 5 steps, and Bob Bobstone gets 2, as per rule. The 'walk' has infiltrated the college game, also, which is horrible.

Why can't they just call the game as it is just one time? I see this crap on TV, and your awareness watching versus 'working' are on a whole other level or 10.

The NBA, as a fan, is not watchable by any standard. I resubmit that Donaghy's claims are all 100% accurate. Bettors don't lie when they are cornered. You'd have to be a bettor, however, to understand that mentality.
262  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Euro 2008 on: June 11, 2008, 09:59:01 PM
Portugal was really disorganized most of the game and still took it down. I don't know why the Czechs don't use Koller more. The guy is a flat out animal and it's not like 1 extra midfielder is going to stop Portugal. When they score, it wont matter how many you have back in the defensive end.

Turkey really pulled out a great win in extra time. The pitch was a slop pit. It was shocking they let the game go on, it was crazy (although entertaining). Looking forward to the games tommorrow. I still don't see any teams standing out yet other than Holland - but can they keep their play up?
263  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: In which you cannot stop staring on: June 11, 2008, 03:57:53 PM

Quote from: Jag on June 11, 2008, 01:38:43 PM


bahaha - crap that's funny on so many levels.
264  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Seriously? These guys should stay in charge of our government? on: June 11, 2008, 03:47:11 PM
The thing about the Big Oil giveaways and them saying 'you'll pay for it at the pump' if you tax us... They also say that the market price of oil dictates what you pay at the pump. So... Which is it? With competition all over the world for oil, taxing certain oil companies and taking away their hand outs isn't going to make the price go up. Those companies still have to compete with other oil - you think they are going to charge 20 cents more than a competitor for a gallon? Fundamentally, they're wrong.

Also, while I'm really really against regulation - there are rules to protect against monopoly. The world runs on oil, that seems like a monopoly to me. If there's one place things need some major cleaning up and fixing with the dramatic corporitization of our nation - it starts there. It's the foundation of all other business.
265  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: (Sports) Donaghy docs allege refs altered games on: June 11, 2008, 03:24:56 PM
The NFL, IMO, does the best job with their officials. They grade every official every week based on calls and noncalls and did they make the correct call. They also schlep out the VP of Officiating every week for the media to ask him questions - and he has a segment on the NFL Network breaking down certain plays and how the officials came to their conclusion, if it was correct or incorrect and if incorrect, the interpretation of the rule. To me, you can't get more transparent.

The thing the NFL learned is, sometimes you have to call a penalty EVERY SINGLE TIME before the players start realizing they can't get away with it - and that cleans up the game. One other thing, though, all sports see stars getting calls - I am not sure that can ever be changed - but again, I think the NFL and possibly MLB do a pretty good job of not being as blatently bad as the NBA in protecting stars.
266  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Economic Plans on: June 11, 2008, 04:56:55 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lGXcT_ktg8c

This is Obama's speech from NC yesterday. He laid out some more framework on his policies and contrasted them - so use some caution. I wish I could dig up the numbers from both's claims that I read (in several places) - both are talking out of their asses, though.
It is a tremendous speech, though.
267  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: (Sports) Donaghy docs allege refs altered games on: June 11, 2008, 04:54:01 AM

Quote from: GatorFavre on June 11, 2008, 03:55:36 AM

Quote from: McBa1n on June 11, 2008, 03:45:11 AM

_I_ could score 20 in the NBA if I could travel every time.

No.
I grew up in the midwest, boy, I can ball! Er shoot 3s heh.
268  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: In which you cannot stop staring on: June 11, 2008, 03:56:08 AM
This is my favorite game of all time now.
269  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: (Sports) Donaghy docs allege refs altered games on: June 11, 2008, 03:45:11 AM
I'm not going to say I know things 100%. I used to 'sharp' bet sports. I NEVER touched the NBA, except when I got a 'good tip' (and those hit at a better than 50% clip, but never perfect). It's obvious there are league mandates to help certain players. Lebron and Kobe? They DON'T travel, although it seems they do EVERY time they touch the ball. _I_ could score 20 in the NBA if I could travel every time. Officials in the NBA are without question the most powerful in any major sport. Sure there has been fixing in other sports, but in the NBA, it's easier to get away with. This 'fixing' goes on at all levels, but in the NBA it's notoriously corrupt and this has been known by bettors for years and years and years.

Seriously, anyone who wants to watch 'basketball' shouldn't waste their time on the NBA. Dirty money avoids the NCAAs more than it does NBA games due to the large amount of scrutiny and smaller betting pools - making it easier to spot when a fix goes in. There are lots of fishy things in line movement with major books - and many games get pulled 'off' the boards due to this.

Most of the 'fixing' is actually picked up by pro handicappers - if there's an anomoly - it's always in the numbers.
I don't doubt one thing Donaghy said - because if you watch games, you can see there is clear fixing going on, and blatent favoratism and horrible 'subjectivity' going on.

Basketball, while making piles of money now, under the Stern era, died IMO. It's not fun to watch. It's not exciting. The players don't really decide games - the calls and non-calls do. There's way too much politics in officiating and there is both illegal fixing and league mandated fixing going on.
/tin foil hat off
270  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Seriously? These guys should stay in charge of our government? on: June 10, 2008, 09:22:27 PM
While I don't think it's a horrible idea to have a golf program for kids, does it make a lot of sense? Golf costs an asston just to play 1 day, let alone get a set of clubs + equipment. Sure, it's good to get kids off the streets, but how the crap are they going to affoard to go golfing outside the program? Our government should not be putting funding into this, however - it should be done via pure charity, as it always has been.
271  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: "Terrorist Fist Jab" on: June 10, 2008, 09:18:52 PM
Yeah I'm still puzzled what media was calling a 'fist bump' a 'terrorist fist jab'. Haha what a joke. Fox is not news. It's a disgrace.
272  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Euro 2008 on: June 10, 2008, 09:15:42 PM
Spain certainly didn't disappoint today... Their defense has become a disaster, but sheesh they are loaded up front. I guess when you don't let Raul play on your squad, you're pretty deep at striker (and they are). Villa tore up the field today and Torres made some sick plays. They won't go anywhere in the tournament, probably, but boy they can score a lot.

The Greece/Sweden game was a total snoozer until Greece broke down for 5 minutes and let in 2. Greece thinks they're Italy or something. I think it's fine to play that defensive in a bigtime game against a premier team - but Sweden is just not that good. It was a brutal game overall tho.
273  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Euro 2008 on: June 10, 2008, 04:30:22 PM
espn360.com! hehe they replay the 'game of the day' at better times later on, which is nice. Glad they finally have the whole tourney on in the US.
274  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Euro 2008 on: June 10, 2008, 03:49:34 PM
Anyone watching it? Yesterday's Netherlands/Italy game was a shocker and very exciting.
Big games today - I'm really looking forward to seeing Spain. Game starts in 10 minutes!
275  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / "Terrorist Fist Jab" on: June 10, 2008, 02:59:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_vmQrTi3aM&feature=related

hahahaha
Fox is awesome sometimes on slow news days.
They don't even talk about stuff like this on sports shows. Hilarious.
276  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What years comprise your own "Golden Age" of PC Gaming? on: June 09, 2008, 09:50:10 PM
That's easy: The time between a year or 2 after Doom 2 and up to Quake 2. You have Command and Conquer, Civnet, Diablo, Duke 3d, Dark Sun Online and Ultima Online. That's when online gaming was AWESOME. It's so much better now, for obvious reasons, but the friends I made back then are still friends today. I'd say the "golden age" ended when The Total Entertainment Network ran out of cash and became pogo.com, also, around that time Everquest launched and just ruined everything. That was some good old school rockstar gaming. Things have changed so much since...
277  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Hmmm. What if: Hilary = VP? Does That Sway Your Vote to McCain? on: June 09, 2008, 09:28:23 PM

Quote from: PaulBot on June 09, 2008, 06:35:17 PM

Quote from: McBa1n on June 09, 2008, 03:03:48 PM

but what about Al Gore?

Isn't he busy running the Internet?

funny.
Free 0 day /msg AlGore !list !!!!
278  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Hmmm. What if: Hilary = VP? Does That Sway Your Vote to McCain? on: June 09, 2008, 03:03:48 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on June 06, 2008, 08:18:01 PM

I think it's a foregone conclusion that Obama is going to win in November no matter who he picks.  That being said a Clinton VP pick would signify that Obama has abandoned his "New Deal in Washington" ideals at least somewhat.  I am fairly certain that if left to make his choice in a vacuum, he wouldn't want Hillary anywhere near the White House.  She is about as much of a Washington insider as the Democrats have.  But he may be forced to bend to the will of party insiders and political expediency and take her anyway.

Really good point about picking Hil-dog as VP. You're so right that Obama would lose his 'new Washington' platform, despite it being a strong ticket. Also, I don't see the sense in losing not one Senator - but TWO to a presidential rates. The Senate lines are razor thin as is - even if Hil-Dog's seat would likely be filled by a Dem, it's still not worth the risk IMO.

As for Richardson, he fits the bill in so many ways - HOWEVER, he's not a name that's going to deliver that many votes. Even if it gives Obama more robust latino support, is that enough to win a few battleground states? That's tough to say. I, personally, love Richardson (being someone in the SW) - aside from his handling of illegals - and my feeling is so strong on that topic, would not want to see him in any part of our government. I also don't think Richardson nails down enough name recognition nationally to give Obama just a little bit of 'push' (even though I don't know how much he'll need). Amazing how contradictory I am there... I just don't want to see Richardson's policies anyway near Washington dealing with immigration. It's hard enough to find work here even with so many illegals leaving for greener pastures.

I think Edwards is a solid guy, he's whom I've supported now since he entered the race in '04. I got into it at the Nevada caucus with many Hildog supporters (who knew 0 on any of her positions at the time, funny) over Edwards - luckily I got one more person in our district to go Edwards so we could achieve a state delegate and 'viability' by the exact number we needed hehe. That aside, his strong points are obvious. His weak point is - he did NOTHING for Kerry in '04. Kerry was a joke of a candidate to begin with - and Edwards did so little to help him. I love his positions, but he won't help anyone get elected... But, I'm not so sure Obama needs a strong VP.

One guy that keeps popping up is Ed Rendell. He's been on TV more than Seinfeld re-runs during the primary season. He denies wanting to be VP - but he's on TV ALL DAY being interviewed. I think Pennsylvania is going Obama no matter what, so he's semi-useless.

Sheesh, is there one governor out there?
I was never much of a fan, but what about Al Gore? He's got a rock-star persona now... That really would be a ridiculous ticket. VPs dont have term limits do they?
279  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: No country for old men on: June 06, 2008, 06:54:11 AM
I finally caught this flick last night... I thought it was all well put together. It seemed the movie, itself, was the payoff - and I rather liked the ending. It was perfect... Although I zoned out during the story and had to watch it a few times. It was nothing special, which was cool, but also why I had to keep watching it again and again, due to my mind drifting.
280  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Lincoln-Douglas style debates with McCain & Obama? on: June 05, 2008, 08:23:23 AM
I really like the idea. This approach favors McCain, though. He's not a good speaker of prepared speeches, he might be more himself in that setting and less of the 'neocon buttyboy' that he's sold out to.
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