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41  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: It's Almost Thanksgiving (USA! USA!), What's your GOTY? on: November 19, 2014, 10:03:43 PM

Quote from: Torfish on November 19, 2014, 10:02:05 PM

PC Civ Beyond Earth - It might be a little flawed right now but I'm still having a blast with it.  Type of game that gets better as you learn it.  It will be supported for years and I can't wait to see what they do with the DLCs/expansions.  

If I had to pick a game released this year, this would be mine. Do you think we will see support for years though? We didn't see anything for Colonization.
42  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: It's Almost Thanksgiving (USA! USA!), What's your GOTY? on: November 19, 2014, 10:01:21 PM
Civ V, played it more than any other game this year. After that Diablo III. I am not very current I guess.
43  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How do you use your tablet on: November 19, 2014, 05:06:20 PM

Quote from: Purge on November 19, 2014, 04:33:10 PM

Quote from: Destructor on November 16, 2014, 07:50:48 PM

My Surface 3 (the piece of crap that it is with its shitty built in Maxwell wifi chip) is just my secondary computer if you will. It holds all my chat clients, Skype, and everything else I need. It sits underneath my gaming PC's monitor (or next to me when I'm on a console) and it gives me access to anything no matter what I'm doing.
You have problems, even after all the firmware updates? Contact support. Get that fixed up. Mine runs like a champ.

Yeah, wifi hasn't been issue for months, a firmware update took care of my problems. As I said though, my Surface Pro is flakey and I have to reboot it once a week.

My biggest gripe right now is that with a bluetooth keyboard hooked up, it still likes to pop up the onscreen keyboard sometimes, which resizes all my windows (unless they are maximized). It drives me nuts. Then there are apps like Steam that just either don't support touch, or have such small hit boxes it makes it a complete pain in the ass. The Surface to me is a laptop with touch capabilities more than it is a tablet. Don't get me wrong, if someone told me they were going to buy a laptop, a Surface Pro would be my first recommendation (after Apple), but I would not recommend it to someone who wants a tablet. Not even in the same ballpark on weight, easy of use, or even performance (both Android and Apple tablets are getting to be quite powerful and don't have fan and heat problems like a Surface). Tablets are still too limited for many things that are just easier to do on a laptop, for this stuff, the Surface is great.
44  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (11/18) on: November 19, 2014, 05:16:58 AM

Quote from: EddieA on November 17, 2014, 10:11:57 AM

Rollers of The Realm for PS4/Vita, a pinball RPG

Picked this up, its a fun little pinball game. Interesting elements to it. You have to level up your party, get new equipment, etc. As you take damage it wears away your flippers making it harder. It was really easy until I got to the third area. Now I am having to grind to get some money for better equipment.
45  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: New gaming computer? Where to buy? on: November 18, 2014, 04:08:18 PM
Mixed reactions so far. As soon as I turned it on I get a message to update the video card drivers. Nvidia had upgraded the drivers two days before it shipped, so not a big deal, and I upgraded them. Except I am getting some crashes that as far as I can tell are video driver related. So maybe it's the new drivers? It may be sleep related as well. I have the computer set to sleep after an hour, and it worked the first time, but after that it would crash trying to sleep. Then that stopped, and it would sleep, but it wouldn't wake with a keyboard press. The keyboard would light up, but nothing else would happen. Thankfully pressing the power button wakes it fully. Not bad, but not normal. Sleep has always been a major issue for me on past PCs, so this is no different.

Then yesterday it crashed on loading multiple games. It's intermittent, sometimes a game will load fine, sometimes it will crash. All video card driver related as far as I can tell. Haven't called/email tech support yet, trying to narrow the problem down myself so I can provide adequate details. Odd that besides sleep issues, it worked well all weekend then started crashing yesterday. So this kind of sucks. Sure it will get fixed, but I don't want to deal with this.

I am not convinced it's not just because Windows 8 sucks as well. My Surface Pro has to be re-booted at least once a week because it will start acting flakey.

Otherwise, the computer is a speed demon. Obviously the fastest computer I have owned. Boots in seconds. Since I don't have any really modern games, I can run everything in max detail for the most part (Far Cry 3 isn't quite maxed, but close). The responsive of the thing makes it a joy to use. Love the minimalist looking case and the whole Falcon NW presentation. Disappointed with crashes, but as a long time PC user it's par for the course (that's why I am mainly a Mac user, but they are far less than perfect themselves lately).
46  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: November 17, 2014, 10:38:24 PM
I enjoyed it, until the van landed on it's wheels. It was clearly going to land front end first in the real world. icon_twisted
47  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: [PC, PS4, PS3, Xbox1, Xbox 360]Can we dispense with the thread naming convention on: November 15, 2014, 08:06:38 PM

Quote from: Rumpy on November 15, 2014, 07:44:01 PM

Quote from: th'FOOL on November 13, 2014, 01:26:52 PM

All I can say is this- we've got new forum software lined up for the beginning of the year. Tagging is one if it's features. If we try to install a plugin for this software, it is far more likely than not that those tags would not survive a forum migration.

Good to know. That's what I wanted to know. Thanks smile

He means in 2020. Tongue
48  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Re: [iPad] Battle World Kronos on: November 14, 2014, 11:59:45 PM
I won't click on a TA link, so I don't know what they gave it, but Pocket Tactics thought it was ok. 3 stars. Sounds like an OK game, but I have enough to play that I can't be bothered with it.

Did you play it Rittchard?
49  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: FS: Apple TV 2 - Jailbreak with XBMC Frodo - version 12.3 on: November 14, 2014, 05:54:10 PM
I am confused, a new one goes for $100, and XBMC is free isn't it?
50  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Weekend Playlist -- 11/14/14 on: November 14, 2014, 05:06:05 PM
Two papers due on Sunday, and a major test on Monday that I need to study for...but, new gaming PC arrives today. Probably going to play some Far Cry 3 to test it out. Or maybe Dishonored (I bought it and never played it, think its supposed to be good)? I am not sure if I have many games that can really test it.
51  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Have you ever written anything substantial? on: November 14, 2014, 04:02:57 PM

Quote from: JayDee on November 14, 2014, 02:22:32 PM

I would love to be able to write something substantial. I enjoy reading very much and loved the creative writing assignments way back when I was in school. The problem is that I have less than zero creativity in my brain. I simply cannot think of anything to write about. I'm thinking of maybe taking a creative writing class at a local college just to force myself to write something. But I keep putting it off. But man, it would be so great if I could just get over this hump and write "something".

This is pretty much me, I am not creative at all. Of course I was our regular dungeon master back in the 80s, so maybe I am not as lacking as I think? My initial plan for fiction is just to do a book in the style of a dungeon adventure. Group meets in the local inn by chance, then has to save the town from the evil lurking nearby. Simple stuff and just about as cliche as you can get, but I am doing this for fun so I am not too worried about it.

I didn't take creative writing classes, but had to take two college level english classes fairly recently, and I didn't find them helpful at all despite the almost constant writing assignments. Just a grind to get something on paper that I didn't give a crap about.
52  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Far Cry 4 on: November 14, 2014, 03:54:30 PM

Quote from: Teggy on November 14, 2014, 03:29:31 PM

Well this is getting quite good reviews, in stark contrast to Unity. I'm not buying it next week but I may have to pick it up before year end, hopefully on a holiday sale.

A sale this early? Even with the holiday sale coming up, is that likely? I must be getting old, I am not paying $60 game that is already advertising for it's DLC/season pass. I will wait for it and all it's DLC for half the price.
53  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Have you ever written anything substantial? on: November 13, 2014, 11:13:57 PM

Quote from: TiLT on November 13, 2014, 05:25:16 PM

I find it vital to have a dedicated application to write my novel in, and for that purpose I've used Scrivener. You will not be able to be effective with something like Word, which was never intended to write long documents. Scrivener is almost an "industry standard" as far as I've seen, and a safe choice for writing multi-chapter books. For mapping out the chapter structure and keeping a chart of questions, answers and connections, I use Scapple, though there are probably better alternatives, depending on your needs.

I use Scrivener now for longer college papers. Dividing a paper up into sections really helps me stay focused and keep on topic. I tend to be long winded and ramble so it helps to stop that. I know it does outlining too, but I haven't used that feature before. I was thinking of taking full advantage of its index cards when I start this project.
54  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Have you ever written anything substantial? on: November 13, 2014, 04:39:17 PM
When you write, do you outline, or just dive in and see where it goes? I won't have time to really start my project until December, so I am sort of planning in my head, but I am not sure I like plans. It seems like I should just start writing from the start and see where it goes.
55  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Re: Monument Valley on: November 13, 2014, 04:26:59 AM
Twitter reaction seems to have won, it's back to 4.5 stars. Still, all the top reviews are complaining about the price. Have these people failed to notice that all the top grossing games are free to play?
56  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: New gaming computer? Where to buy? on: November 13, 2014, 01:23:28 AM
It shipped! Will be here Friday. Except...I have two papers to write this weekend, as well as a major macroeconomics test on Monday to study for. Damnit, I hate school. icon_cry
57  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How do you use your tablet on: November 13, 2014, 12:11:05 AM

Quote from: Turtle on November 12, 2014, 11:54:38 PM

Trying to work on a tablet, like writing large documents is a lie, none of the interfaces work well for it, and using your finger to pudge around to put the cursor at the correct spot to make corrections is a nightmare. That's even after getting a bluetooth keyboard, and even if I had a bluetooth mouse, the office apps just are that sophisticated on it, and transferring files is still a bit messy.

I don't find this to be the case at all using an iPad with a Bluetooth keyboard. I use Pages, Omni Outliner, Evernote, and OneNote quite a bit and have no issues. All use their own file systems that works across devices which makes file management easy (although icloud is still buggy, Apple needs to slow down on updates and get their shit together). With handoff I can literally be working at my Mac, pick up my iPad and hit a button and start right where I left off.

I can type away easily enough writing papers, but I would agree cut and pasting is a hassle, I wouldn't want to do any heavy editing. With a keyboard I can easily take notes from a text book by just putting the keyboard on top of the book and not even looking at my iPad that is sitting next to me. Far easier than a bulky laptop.

I only find a laptop superior if I have to do a lot if editing or I need multiple windows open as reference. If Windows 10 can finally nail down the tablet/laptop interface, it could be near near perfect for this kind of stuff.
58  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: on: November 12, 2014, 11:22:36 PM

Quote from: Caine on November 12, 2014, 11:18:09 PM

Sorry, not much help, but knowing that lots off people facet they same hurdles may help you.  Good luck.

Thanks, but not looking for help so much, just discussion. Although I don't really no where to start, an outline I guess? I am going to attempt to write my memoirs if nothing else. Thought others might like to share. didn't think it was worth trying if you couldn't get published? Wouldn't be fun to try regardless of the outcome?
59  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Re: Re: Re: Monument Valley on: November 12, 2014, 11:18:45 PM

Quote from: Caine on November 12, 2014, 11:12:46 PM

Quote from: Lee on November 12, 2014, 10:54:22 PM

PSA if you like premium priced games: Monument Valley's makers released a paid expansion to the game and people are giving the game 1 star reviews because of it. I had no interest in the game, but I will be buying it now in order to support the premium price model. Anyway, it's supposed to be really good.
I haven't looked at reviews, but why are they panning it?  The game wasn't big to begin with, so anyone who was a fan of the first release should already know what to expect.

Speculation is because it's a paid expansion, thats the word on Twitter at least. It was a 4.5 star game with over 7000 reviews. The release today it is now a 3 star game with 69 reviews. Todays update does not break the game in any way, so there is no other reason for the sudden drop in stars (no written reviews have been published yet).
60  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Monument Valley on: November 12, 2014, 10:54:22 PM
PSA if you like premium priced games: Monument Valley's makers released a paid expansion to the game and people are giving the game 1 star reviews because of it. I had no interest in the game, but I will be buying it now in order to support the premium price model. Anyway, it's supposed to be really good.
61  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Have you ever written anything substantial? on: November 12, 2014, 10:45:51 PM
If so, how did it go? What did you write? Did you finish it?

I suck at writing, as anyone who reads my posts here knows. I do get As on all my college papers though, so I must not be too bad at it when I really try. I enjoy writing, even if I do struggle with proper grammar and how to express myself in a manner that gets my point across. I used to have a blog that no one read (which is good because it was pretty bad), and I played with the idea of bringing that back, but I think I want to write something big. A novel maybe? I am not sure how creative I am though, so I may just start with my memoirs. I would never let anyone read it, I just want to try to write something major. Even if I don't finish it, I want to give a try.

Anyone else? Thoughts?
62  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How do you use your tablet on: November 12, 2014, 10:16:53 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on November 12, 2014, 06:02:12 PM

I also play Hearthstone regularly and can do so on either device.  The only reason I'd ever play it on the laptop over the iPad is if the iPad battery is dead.

The iPad was designed to play Hearthstone if nothing else. My high end Surface Pro 3 has to turn on the fans at full blast to run Hearthstone, and it still doesn't look as good or run as smoothly as it does on the iPad. My iPad barely gets warm running Hearthstone.
63  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Help me use my holiday gaming time! on: November 12, 2014, 09:58:46 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on November 12, 2014, 05:10:38 PM

...something that actually changes the formula a bit ...

Not the thread for it, but that is what BE does, it changes the formula a bit. icon_razz
64  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How do you use your tablet on: November 12, 2014, 05:00:53 PM
It's a TV or bedroom  (icon_neutral) companion mostly. I will watch a soccer game on TV while following along on Twitter (or watching the game on the iPad if it's not on TV). With TV shows I don't care about I will surf the internet as I watch. Games. Occasionally reading (I prefer eInk, but I have some reference stuff in iBooks). iPads can text message over wifi, so I use it for that a lot. Shopping is far too easy, so if I think of something I am interested in buying, my iPad is usually close by and makes spending money easy. I use it for school work/studying a lot (I have a bluetooth keyboard). I will write papers on my Mac in Pages, and then proofread on my iPad as I sit on the couch.

Basically it doesn't leave my side when I am home, there is always something to look up, check, or to pass time with. I can't imagine life without it anymore. Of course on the iPad side the apps aren't as numerous. The iPhone is where the money is at, but most of the bigger apps have iPad versions. Still the iPad store must be about half the size of the iPhone store. Android they just scale phone apps up, so they often look like crap, but maybe things have changed since I had a Nexus.

Edit: To try to at least make sense.
65  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: Nikon D200 w/lens on: November 12, 2014, 04:05:49 AM
yep, it was the included stock lens of the D70.
66  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Hell froze over and Blizzard made a new IP] Overwatch on: November 11, 2014, 10:41:08 PM
So the game is going to be like WoW raids.
67  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Hell froze over and Blizzard made a new IP] Overwatch on: November 11, 2014, 02:23:45 PM

Quote from: Ridah on November 11, 2014, 12:43:30 AM

If you think Overwatch is anything like TF2 or any other shooter you've played before, you're absolutely wrong.

And yet you said it reminds you of TF2 in your write up. Tongue
68  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: November 10, 2014, 04:39:50 PM
Not a bad week, interesting enough and nice to see some changes. It was one of those shows where it felt like a different producer/writers stepped in to handle this week's show. It felt weird that suddenly characters are showing new sides, like the sex thing. They have never even so much as hinted that there was something going on there.

The fire hose part was just plain silly though. A hose would have messed up the decomposed bodies, but it wouldn't have destroyed their brains. I would have expected to see a withering pile of zombie parts still trying to get them. I get why they did it, but inconsistencies like that pull me out.
69  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Help me use my holiday gaming time! on: November 08, 2014, 03:57:36 AM
If you like Civ V, you will like Civ:BE in my opinion. It has a very similar feel and is very addicting so you will feel quite at home with it. It does lack in the richness of Civ V after the expansions, and it does bog down late game, but there is enough new stuff to keep it interesting. The aliens in general make the early portion of the game much more interesting, because you can't do much against them at first and there are a lot more of them. Also, city building can be interesting because by late game you can make pretty large changes to the tiles, but they are expensive. You have to learn to juggle everything a bit differently. All in all, it's fun.

Not much help on your other ideas. With my winter gaming time I plan to focus on Wasteland II and Might and Magic 11. Plus maybe some Far Cry 4 if it's good.
70  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft pulls upcoming games from Steam on: November 07, 2014, 06:03:18 PM

Quote from: naednek on November 07, 2014, 05:42:00 PM

Quote from: jztemple2 on November 07, 2014, 04:31:41 PM


Anyway, if Ubisoft doesn't change their minds, on release day I'll be on Amazon and Metacritic posting bad reviews. I won't lie, but hopefully my one star rating combined with a bunch of other folks will have some effect.

See that's stupid, you're not punishing the publisher, you're hurting the developers who are not part of this decision.  You're not basing your thoughts on the game, you're mad at the business decision, and misplacing the blame.

It's fine to be upset, but there has to be a better way to communicate your thoughts than dogging a game that has nothing to do with what their publisher is doing.

Meh, these are not games made by small indie developers, these console games are big studios with millions of dollars behind them. As TiLT pointed out, the line is blurred between developer and publisher in these cases.
71  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Amazon Echo on: November 07, 2014, 05:46:31 PM

Quote from: rittchard on November 07, 2014, 05:39:49 PM

I haven't read all the details on this thing, but even as a gadget whore I can't see it being particularly useful as is.  Now maybe I missed it, but I think what would make this more interesting is if it could interact and command/control other devices on your wireless network, in other words become the hub and interface to the 'internet of things". 

In addition you should be able to have multiple mini microphones you could add to each room.  So for instance I could walk into a room and verbally tell the lights to dim to a soft yellow hue (Philips Hue), turn the TV on, and tell Nest to set the temperature 2 degrees lower.  Now that would be slick.

If you are an Apple guy this is probably coming. They announced Homekit earlier this year, Siri is growing, and the Apple ecosystem is getting more intertwined each year. Although I bet Google does something like this as well that will include the Nest, and it will probably be much better than Amazon's attempt. I think Amazon is just trying to be first out the gate with theirs to get market share, but like everything else, Google and Apple will do it better.

Bezos wants to be a hardware guy so badly that it's going to hurt the company.
72  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft pulls upcoming games from Steam on: November 07, 2014, 05:40:24 PM
And they are back in the US store.
73  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Amazon Echo on: November 07, 2014, 04:32:54 PM
Fair enough Farley2k, thanks for breaking it down for me.

I tried to think of it as bluetooth speaker/Sonos replacement (I don't own a Sonos, but I would love a couple of them), but I get stuck at what music it will play. It only plays music I have bought through Amazon, correct? If so, that is a huge problem for me because while I have bought quite a music from Amazon, a lot of it is ripped or bought from other sources such as Apple.
74  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4/XB1/PC] Assassin's Creed Unity on: November 07, 2014, 02:57:18 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on November 07, 2014, 02:41:57 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on November 07, 2014, 01:28:13 AM

Why do you guys still play games on the PC?  Weird.

I hope this is a joke...  If not, I'd say it's for many reasons depending on the game or person: cheaper prices and frequent sales, higher framerates and resolutions, mod support, longer lifespan for games in general, faster patching, mouse and keyboard support, choice of gamepad, and on and on.

Bigger reason for me is variety. If you want a turn based strategy, RPG, city builder, etc, the only place is PC.
75  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Amazon Echo on: November 07, 2014, 12:57:50 AM

Quote from: Ironrod on November 07, 2014, 12:32:38 AM

Hypothetically, though, I can see the appeal of a standalone device that doesn't need recharging and -- most important -- doesn't require a subscription or a monthly payment. You pays your $200 and you're done. But yeah, not being a whole-house integrated thing makes it little more than a toy.

To do what though? That's what I don't get. Whats the use? What function is it serving that other devices aren't already doing? To hear the weather when you wake up? That would be neat once or twice. You are watching TV and want to do a search for an actor on a TV show? Isn't a screen with results preferable? To play music? Voice control is neat, but not that neat and it can be a pain to use.

Looking around the net it seems people want a virtual assistant or a Sonos replacement. The assistant? Ok I guess. Sonos replacement? I guess if you don't care about sound quality and voice control is very important to you. You get what you pay for first of all. Second, is using the Echo going to be easier than using your phone? Maybe, I just have my doubts after having used Google Now and Siri.
76  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft pulls upcoming games from Steam on: November 06, 2014, 11:57:55 PM

Quote from: naednek on November 06, 2014, 11:43:32 PM

I don't see the big deal.  The last few years when you play a ubisoft game via steam, it would just take you to Uplay, and then you'd have to click on play once more to get it to run.  Now it's one less step.

Which was annoying and stupid. It's not even like their service is good, unlike Steam and BattleNet which are both quite well done.  Honestly I would rather they just use Ubiplay than to make me use the two on top of each other, especially when they don't support the handy/neat stuff like patches and achievements that Steam offers. But I do like keeping my my info/credit cards in as few services as possible, and if I have to sign up for yet another service to buy/play your game, I am less likely to buy/play it.

So while I think Ubisoft is stupid for going this route, I don't care enough to get mad, I just probably won't buy their games. What does concern me, is this setting a trend which will hurt PC gaming in the long run. This hurts their sales so they just won't make PC games. Still, the reason to be a PC gamer is for the variety of games available, losing publishers like EA and Ubisoft won't hurt that (unless 3rd person shooter sequels are important).
77  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft pulls upcoming games from Steam on: November 06, 2014, 11:24:51 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on November 06, 2014, 11:18:44 PM

Quote from: Lee on November 06, 2014, 11:16:17 PM

Thought that was only in the UK they were pulled from Steam? Only AC was pulled here in the States?

Well, you can go on Steam right now and see the Far Cry 4 and The Crew are not available currently.  At least they haven't shown up for me today and Far Cry 4 was definitely there yesterday.

Yeah, just looked, it's gone. Oh well, like I said I will still buy it if it's an amazing game. For me this is a lot like EA pulling out of Steam, make a good game and I will still use your service, but less and less they are making games I care about. Activision would concern me though.
78  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ubisoft pulls upcoming games from Steam on: November 06, 2014, 11:16:17 PM
Thought that was only in the UK they were pulled from Steam? Only AC was pulled here in the States?

I am already hesitant to buy games where I have to use yet another service when Steam already gives me what i need. I will still buy a really good game if it's not on Steam, but if I have to use stuff like Ubisofts platform, it will have to be a damn good game. Far Cry 4 is not an instabuy for me, if it's not on Steam, and the reviews aren't amazing, I probably won't get it. If it's on Steam I am more likely to get it, especially if there is a sale.
79  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: GOP Storms Congress: FulL Control of Senate and House on: November 06, 2014, 11:12:01 PM

Quote from: Rip on November 06, 2014, 11:06:08 PM

Quote from: hepcat on November 06, 2014, 10:56:16 PM

Anyone who believes Obama initiated any of the things ATB mentions is showing a level of naiveté I consider very depressing.  I'm fine with saying they continued it when they shouldn't have, but the insinuation that this hasn't been going on across multiple presidents and without the tacit approval of both parties at various times is shockingly ignorant.

So it is finally time to admit that "hope and change" was really nothing more than a catchy slogan?

Aren't all political slogans nothing more than marketing? Anyway, you aren't arguing the point.
80  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: GOP Storms Congress: FulL Control of Senate and House on: November 06, 2014, 10:34:32 PM

Quote from: ATB on November 06, 2014, 09:19:43 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on November 06, 2014, 04:27:25 AM

Quote from: ATB on November 05, 2014, 01:52:27 PM

In a clear rejection of...I'm not sure what, the GOP has taken full control of congress.  Now we know that rather than almost nothing getting done, absolutely nothing will get done.

But, one thing is clear, the dems abuse of power wasn't tolerated at the grass root level and voters kicked them to the curb in a powerful way.  Now if there's a GOP president in 2016 we can finally get this country going in the wrong direction the other way. slywink

What abuse of power?

Read up on Snowden. Also drone strikes on US citizens. Also see: IRS scandal, appointing the former head of the cable lobby to the FCC, etc. etc.

None of which has much of anything to do with the president. All things that relate to the government as a whole.
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