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2641  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Survivor 4/10 on: April 11, 2008, 10:00:22 PM
Here you go Zeke, ELiza behind the scenes preparing for her first time sitting on the jury.

http://www.cbs.com/ponderosa
2642  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection for Wii on: April 11, 2008, 05:39:49 AM
The best way to unlock pay tables is just complete all the free table's goals, sometimes easier said than done of course. Each time you complete a tables goals you can unlock one of the pay tables to make it free.
2643  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bethesda sucks and they and anyone who likes them are going to hell (Fallout on: April 11, 2008, 02:39:48 AM
Off topic: I found the manual for Fallout 1, but I can't find the disk. Did it come on 3.5s or a CD? CD in a jewel or paper case?
2644  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Beserk new-thread-starting on: April 11, 2008, 02:37:00 AM
Oh I agree with you, but it's the same old people over and over again and they don't seem to really care no matter how many times people mention it. I finally learned to quit bitching and just laugh at it. The best thing to do is probably just ignore the threads.
2645  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bethesda sucks and they and anyone who likes them are going to hell (Fallout on: April 10, 2008, 03:52:28 PM
Those graphics don't look half bad. I don't think I ever played Fallout 2 actually, does it hold up? (Probably a stupid question.) I heard it runs fine on Vista, is it worth picking up in this day and age? GoGamer has it.
2646  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mario Kart Wii Impressions on: April 10, 2008, 03:49:26 PM
Isn't the wheel just a plastic thingy to hold the remote? It doesn't actually improve the controls of the game besides making it easier to hold on to right?
2647  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: April 10, 2008, 05:03:53 AM
No love for the Avs? Great game tonight. I would be surprised if it didn't go 7 games.
2648  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection for Wii on: April 09, 2008, 02:02:55 AM
Pretty neat game. The controls are very responsive and it feels almost natural shaking the remote to push the table. Only compliant is that some of the more complicated tables like Whirlwind look like crap.
2649  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Charlton Heston's dead. Who's going to pry the gun? on: April 07, 2008, 01:40:56 AM
I think that the second paragraph pretty much screams homophobe, but if I am wrong I will take it back. slywink

He's just another actor who had a soap box not because he deserved one, but because he was famous. His opinions don't mean a whole lot to me whether I agree with him or not.
2650  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bethesda sucks and they and anyone who likes them are going to hell (Fallout on: April 07, 2008, 01:25:40 AM

Quote from: kathode on April 07, 2008, 12:33:56 AM

Quote from: Lee on April 07, 2008, 12:14:45 AM

Meh, give me screen shots of the interface and not just pictures of combat and cut scenes. I know it's not a FPS, but the screen shots sure make it look like one.

Technically I think you would say "third person shooter" from most of the shots smile  We did a whole dev diary on the interface here.  Also, we don't do any cut scenes.

Don't get me wrong, I am looking forward to the game, but the screen shots don't do it justice. I want to see what the game looks like the way I will play it, interface and with camera angles that you would actually use to play the game, not to make it look pretty.
2651  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Charlton Heston's dead. Who's going to pry the gun? on: April 07, 2008, 01:20:46 AM
Quote
Many homosexuals are hugely talented artists and executives... also dear friends. I don't despise their lifestyle, though I don't share it," Heston stated. "As long as gay and lesbian Americans are as productive, law-abiding and private as the rest of us, I think America owes them absolute tolerance. It's the right thing to do.

But on the other hand," Heston continued. "I find my blood pressure rising when Clinton's cultural shock troops participate in homosexual-rights fund-raisers but boycott gun-rights fund-raisers... and then claim it's time to place homosexual men in tents with Boy Scouts, and suggest that sperm donor babies born into lesbian relationships are somehow better served and more loved.

Quit judging people by whether you liked their movies or not Daehawk. He was known for being quite the homophobe in his later years.
2652  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Liberal Ice Shelf continues to show how much it hates Bush on: April 07, 2008, 01:15:09 AM
So much for taking a R&P break I guess. Tongue Or are you expecting a nicer reception here?
2653  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Was I a jerk? on: April 07, 2008, 01:07:45 AM

Quote from: Sarkus on April 07, 2008, 12:34:54 AM

Quote from: Lee on April 06, 2008, 09:51:42 PM

Nothing more to say I guess. I am not the kind of person to call the cops on some kids having some harmless fun, you guys are. Tongue

I doubt you would have the same view if it was your business at risk.



Of course I wouldn't, but I am not arguing for the manager, I couldn't care less if he got busted, he deserved it if he did. I just don't care enough about such minor issues as to call the cops if I did see it. If the manager wants to risk his job for it than more power to him, I am not going to interfere unless something really criminal was going on or someone was hurt. It's not my business nor is it something that is important to me.

If I was going to get upset and call the cops over every minor infraction/morally wrong action I saw I wouldn't leave the house.
2654  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bethesda sucks and they and anyone who likes them are going to hell (Fallout on: April 07, 2008, 12:14:45 AM
Meh, give me screen shots of the interface and not just pictures of combat and cut scenes. I know it's not a FPS, but the screen shots sure make it look like one.
2655  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Charlton Heston's dead. Who's going to pry the gun? on: April 07, 2008, 12:08:23 AM
Marching with someone gives you the right to say that the dead person would agree with your political views?
2656  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bethesda sucks and they and anyone who likes them are going to hell (Fallout on: April 06, 2008, 11:23:45 PM
Is Fallout supposed to look just like another FPS? frown
2657  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Charlton Heston's dead. Who's going to pry the gun? on: April 06, 2008, 09:54:12 PM

Quote from: Daehawk on April 06, 2008, 09:34:32 PM

Kinda proved Heston's point.

He had a point? I thought he was just a figurehead for the cause.
2658  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Was I a jerk? on: April 06, 2008, 09:51:42 PM
Nothing more to say I guess. I am not the kind of person to call the cops on some kids having some harmless fun, you guys are. Tongue
2659  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Was I a jerk? on: April 06, 2008, 05:02:15 PM

Quote from: EddieA on April 06, 2008, 04:36:26 PM

It's been mentioned several times that Papasmurff said they were at most 17, not 20, and there is a big difference between 17 and 21.

Still only a misdemeanor.
2660  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Was I a jerk? on: April 06, 2008, 10:32:19 AM

Quote from: EddieA on April 06, 2008, 10:27:20 AM

The restaurant was committing an illegal, reckless, and potentially dangerous act.  The issue is the restaurant's irresponsibility in not enforcing the law.

Let's not be over dramatic. A 20 year old drinking is reckless and potentially dangerous? How so more than a 21 year old? Without making assumptions this time. The OP doesn't state he called the cops because he was scared they were going to drive.
2661  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Was I a jerk? on: April 06, 2008, 07:18:27 AM
Excellent post Semaj, especially your 6 points. We really need to know a lot more than we do, but from some of the posts here I get the idea a lot of people are non-drinkers and think alcohol is the root of all evil so there is no excuse ever.

One correction, underage drinking is a huge no-no in the military. From what I hear while it does happen in the dorms sometimes, most of them are smart enough not to do on base or any where someone who would know them would see them (I would be legally bound to report them if I saw for instance). The ironic thing is that at a lot of overseas locations they can drink at 18, but when they come home to the States the law is 21 again. Just shows how silly the law is.
2662  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The world sh** on me some more today on: April 06, 2008, 06:20:24 AM

Quote from: Daehawk on April 02, 2008, 11:26:24 PM

a BIG ass honking tree. Damn old tree wtf. Its one of the old one and its at least 15+ feet around the trunk

A bit of an exaggeration don't you think? slywink
2663  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Was I a jerk? on: April 06, 2008, 06:10:08 AM

Quote from: Exodor on April 06, 2008, 03:51:12 AM

Why is everyone assuming the underage drinkers were going to get behind the wheel?

Does the jerk factor change  if one of the 17 year olds was a DD?

Yeah people are assuming a lot.

Edited to be less smart-assy. smile
2664  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Was I a jerk? on: April 05, 2008, 09:24:12 PM
Fed did sum it up quite well. The management should have done something, I agree, but calling the cops was over board.

I find it interesting that a lot of you seem to see a big maturity difference from a 21 year old to a 19 year old. For someone who works with a large portion of kids in that age group I don't see much of a difference. The 21 year olds are just as much dumb asses as the 19 year olds, but the 21 year old is more dangerous because he's out there drinking legally and doesn't think he has anything to worry about while the underage guy doesn't want to draw attention to himself. Of my coworkers I have a good idea of who the underage drinkers are and I have seen quite a few alcohol related incidents with both sides of age group. Without a doubt the majority of irresponsible drinkers are with the 21+ crowd.

As for everyone who keeps relating it to drinking and driving, your problem isn't with underage drinking, but with the driving. Papasmurf should have been calling the cops on all sorts of people I am sure if thats the case. When you guys are out at a restaurant do you sit there watching people drinking heavily that may be driving and then call the cops on them? This is no different.

Thankfully society isn't as self righteous as an internet gaming forum. smile If someone did this in my group of friends 20 years ago or now, they would be ostracized for being an ass (unless it was their responsibility to be looking for such things).
2665  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Was I a jerk? on: April 05, 2008, 12:27:29 PM

Quote from: ATB on April 05, 2008, 12:23:46 PM

Meh. Not a jerk. If we showed that much care about our fellow man all the time, the world would be a better place.

You are right, nothing screws up the world quite like college kids drinking. If we could stop that, the world would be a better place.
2666  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Was I a jerk? on: April 05, 2008, 11:55:19 AM

Quote from: Thin_J on April 05, 2008, 10:35:38 AM

The business in question was plainly breaking a very solid law set in place to prevent the kinds of things I was talking about, whether this situation would have ended that way or not.

So then, do you call the cops every time you see a lone person drink 3 drinks at the bar and then drive home? If you walk into an apartment building and smell pot outside of someones door do you call the cops? If you see someone speeding do you call the cops? Etc. I see people plainly break very solid laws daily, some of them potentially dangerous to you and your family and I don't do anything about it. In this case, Papasmurf did not call the cops because he was worried about them drinking and driving, he called the cops because some underage (I am guessing college age kids since he knows them) were having some fun at a bar. No one was hurt, and there was no implication in the original post that this was the case.

And I also disagree, as a HS aged drinker, we were far more likely to drink somewhere where there would be no driving as compared to an adult. We were much more careful about getting caught.
2667  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Forum Recovery on: April 05, 2008, 08:33:28 AM
Well I guess this means you can stop spamming. Tongue
2668  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Was I a jerk? on: April 05, 2008, 08:23:54 AM

Quote from: Thin_J on April 05, 2008, 08:06:30 AM

I work with two guys who lost family members to seperate car accidents. One lost his son about a year ago and the other lost his nephew just a week and a half ago. In both cases the other drivers were underage and drunk.

You did the right thing.

So a drunk driving 20 year old is different than a drunk driving 21 year old? He also didn't discuss whether these people were driving, so your statement is irrelevant. If they were driving then yes he should have called the cops on a drunk driver regardless of age. But then again I can point you to any bar in the country and you will see someone tipsy drive away.
2669  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Was I a jerk? on: April 05, 2008, 08:21:57 AM
I didn't take a potshot, it wasn't a question, it was a statement. For you to do that, I made a correct assumption that you didn't drink when underage.

How old were these people? 15 or 19? I could understand if you called the cops on a 15 year old to possible help the kid. I don't see the difference between a 19 year old and a 21 year old drinking, but then we could discuss the morality of drinking laws all day. I will say, if underage drinking is such a threat where you live why is it ok at home but not in public? What is the difference?

In my opinion, since you don't work for the place and didn't have anything to do with it besides your moral superiority (that is a potshot), the adult thing to do would have been to go to the underage drinkers in question, since you know them well enough to know their ages and kindly say "Hey guys, you know you shouldn't be in here, get out of here".
2670  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Was I a jerk? on: April 05, 2008, 07:01:11 AM
It was of none of your business and I don't see why you care. Under age people drink all the time, but I am guessing you never did.
2671  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Some Keeley Hazel under-boobage NSFW on: April 05, 2008, 04:27:49 AM
Sorry Warning (and GT), didn't really think about it. Won't happen again.
2672  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Some Keeley Hazel under-boobage NSFW on: April 05, 2008, 01:29:16 AM

Quote from: Purge on April 05, 2008, 12:22:50 AM

LINK!!!!

[Totally annoying porn link with multiple popups FTL]
2673  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: A look at the Monster Hunter G2 Special Edition on: April 03, 2008, 05:02:53 AM
Whats the difference from Monster Hunter Freedom? Just a couple of extra monsters to catch?
2674  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection for Wii on: April 02, 2008, 07:53:32 PM
Amazon sent me an email, they are shipping it today.
2675  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Myth Busted: S&G Met an Asteroid on: April 02, 2008, 02:55:45 PM
I don't think there is any doubt that S&G existed from my very limited knowledge. IIRC there are 5 sites which could be it, they just don't have enough enough evidence to narrow it down. There is an excellent episode of Digging for the Truth on the subject ($1.99 on iTunes).
2676  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: What's the stance on "Rickrolling"? on: April 02, 2008, 01:25:47 AM

Quote from: naednek on April 02, 2008, 12:56:40 AM

Didn't know there was a stance on Rickrolling.  My stance is, it's not funny. Tongue

Well it was pretty funny with how Youtube did it today (every video on the front page linked to it).
2677  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bethesda sucks and they and anyone who likes them are going to hell (Fallout on: April 01, 2008, 09:49:23 PM

Quote from: IkeVandergraaf on April 01, 2008, 09:32:54 PM

I just don't understand why we needed another FO3 thread.  Don't we already have a bunch of them.  This one does not appear to offer any new information, other than the obvious unbreakable-baiting.

Agreed, ban both of them. slywink
2678  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Anyone else having trouble with Penny-Arcade? on: April 01, 2008, 03:39:39 PM
It cleared up for me without doing anything.
2679  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3: Get a 60/80GB now or wait for the MGS version? on: April 01, 2008, 03:29:24 PM
I thought the MGS version was going to be improved hardware? I read that somewhere around here I thought. No? I was waiting for it.
2680  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection for Wii on: April 01, 2008, 03:24:56 PM
Never even heard of the game. Target didn't have it online, but Amazon does. 2-4 weeks to ship though. I ordered.
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