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2321  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: There Will Be Blood on: April 21, 2008, 03:07:35 PM

Quote from: LordMortis on April 21, 2008, 12:48:32 PM

It's the relationship to the son I find fascinating and how Daniel deals with betrayal.  Did he ever really love his son?  We still can't tell at the end.  The closest thing you get to knowing would be to examine his relationship with his fake brother.

I disagree here. I think he very much loved his son, but had trouble dealing with it. He was very worried about his son after the explosion, but you saw the conflict within him. Does he stay with his son or go take care of the business. It showed that it was part of his problems, business came before everything, as much as it hurt him and anyone he may care about.
2322  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: There Will Be Blood on: April 21, 2008, 02:48:00 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on April 21, 2008, 02:40:31 PM

during the first 15 minutes I was about ready to yell at the screen 'SOMEONE SAY SOMETHING!'

I thought that was incredibly cool myself. And the part where they show the hills and play that weird music, made it kind of eerie.
2323  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Amaozon Kindle on: April 21, 2008, 02:45:12 PM

Quote from: Canuck on April 21, 2008, 02:43:06 PM

400 bucks?? Forget it! For that kind of money I'd get an Ipaq 210 or a Eee PC.

You can't compare eInk to reading on a tiny backlit Pocket PC. It's much more like reading a printed page.

I think the free wireless has a lot to do with the price.
2324  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PSP -- Thinking about repurchasing on: April 21, 2008, 12:14:39 AM

Quote from: Gratch on April 20, 2008, 11:59:27 PM

You get hand cramps on a PSP but not on a DS?   icon_confused  I'm exactly the opposite, and I've got pretty big hands.  The PSP is very comfortable, but I can only play my DS for 30-45 minutes before I feel my hand turning into a claw.

It's due to the type of games mostly. I find actiony games very hard to play on the PSP because my hands start to hurt trying to control them. The DS I have about 18 games and most of them are not action games so I can hold the DS in multiple ways without touching the screen and can even use the stylus. The PSP even for non-action games can be awkward to hold for me because of the size shape while trying to avoid touching the screen.

And again, I just like the DS games more, there seems to be a wider variety of them out there that appeal to me. I guess it all depends on what kind of games you want to play. The only game recently I was interested in getting for the PSP was the latest FF, and then I found out combat was action oriented, so I skipped it. While the DS has had a number of interesting games come out.

After playing a PSP game and then picking up the DS, the graphical difference is stunning, I have to admit.
2325  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Expelled on: April 20, 2008, 11:55:08 PM

Quote from: cheeba on April 20, 2008, 09:06:44 PM

Quote from: Lee on April 20, 2008, 06:20:46 PM

Someone please explain to me why you would see a movie that you know is a complete lie just because you like a guy who used to do an amusing game show.
1. I don't know that the movie is a complete lie without having seen it. I tend to be distrustful of others and like to see things for myself.
2. I like to see others' points of view.

Others point of view is that people are getting fired for ID in the science community. Which maybe true, but it certainly isn't true of the people who are used in the film. Again, the movie is not about ID, it just kind of mentions it.

If you would research it, you wouldn't need to see it to know that it is a lie. Are you going to accept that they are telling the truth when you do see it? Even when every evolutionist involved in the movie is saying they were asked ridiculous question but played along because they were told the movie was going to try to show both beliefs equally and that what they said was taken out of context. When every person they say was fired etc for their beliefs when you can look up online what really happened to these people. You don't need to see the move to find this info out.

That's the problem, people are going to see the movie and take it as fact because it's easier to see the movie than dig into it themselves. The makers of this film should not be rewarded for what they did. Of course I expect the only people are actually going to see it believes in ID, and much like evolution, they will refuse to believe anything that goes against what they want to think. Why let cold hard facts get in the way?
2326  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: April 20, 2008, 08:32:03 PM
2327  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: There Will Be Blood on: April 20, 2008, 07:10:06 PM

Quote from: dedewhale on April 20, 2008, 06:40:09 PM

I watched it and thought it was OK.....I am not sure I understand where the guys anger came from, thought that was poorly laid out.....

Spoiler for Hiden:
Why did he have to kill the preist at the end???? Thought it was a slight over reaction.....maybe I mist something major

Remember when Plainview had to be saved if he wanted to lay his pipe across that guys land? The minister slapped him around and humiliated him in the process. Not to mention the minister was a constant thorn in his side since day one. They showed Plainviews disdain for him earlier on when he slapped him around in the mud/oil and asked why didn't you cure my son? Then you take a guy who slowly went crazy, and it kind of makes sense.
2328  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PSP -- Thinking about repurchasing on: April 20, 2008, 06:34:56 PM
Another bought and repurchaser here. I never used my first one because there weren't any games that interested me. Looked to be some games coming I would like so I bought a new silver PSP. Barely use it, hasn't been turned on for a couple of months. It's great hardware, but for on the go gaming the games just aren't all that great for me. I would rather have Brain Age/puzzle type gaming on a small screen, something I can play in spurts, and would rather play more complex games on a full screen system.

On top of that I find action games very hard to play due to having adult sized hands. I get hand cramps very quickly with it.

I find the games and the hardware of the DS 100x better myself. It may not be as pretty, but it's just about perfect for on the go travel gaming for me.
2329  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: There Will Be Blood on: April 20, 2008, 06:26:14 PM
Thought it was a great movie myself, thoroughly enjoyed it. You could see where the movie was going with the downward spiral of Plainview, but it was still fun watching it as ugly as it maybe. I did not expect that ending, until afterwards where I realized what the title meant. You know in the beginning it's going to end badly, but I had forgotten "there will be blood."
2330  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Expelled on: April 20, 2008, 06:20:46 PM
Someone please explain to me why you would see a movie that you know is a complete lie just because you like a guy who used to do an amusing game show. I admit, I was going to see it because I liked Ben Stein, then I looked into it, and as much as I want to see it for the train wreck that it is, I cannot let my money show support for such a slanderous movie.
2331  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Expelled on: April 20, 2008, 04:02:03 PM

Quote from: JohnathanStrange on April 20, 2008, 03:20:50 PM

I find it valuable to at least attempt to understand why people have certain beliefs. And I don't mean in a condescending pyschological "they cling to their old beliefs" way but in their words. I like to hear their evidence. It doesn't mean I have to accept it.

The problem is the movie is not about other peoples beliefs, the movie is not about ID. Every review I have read says the movie is very vague and misses the opportunity to discuss the belief in fact.

The movie is about people who get blacklisted for their beliefs about ID. And on this basis the movie is completely false. Take one of the people the movie is about, Richard Sternberg. He claims that he lost his job as an editor for publishing a pro-ID paper. If you read the site I linked to it shows that every claim made in the movie is false. Basically he did not lose his job for publishing the paper, he was not fired from his unpaid job, he had actually already put in his resignation 6 months before the paper was published. Every story in the movie is like this, an exaggeration/lie.

Why give people money who made a movie that is a complete lie? You won't be finding out why they believe what they do, you will just hear made up stories of more "Christians are persecuted in this country, poor us" beliefs.

And the clips of the scientists they used? The ones they lied to in order to get an interview? They went out of their way to try to explain themselves and were then taken completely out of context to make them look bad.

On the other hand, a large amount of people have lost their jobs for going against ID in the classroom. And these people get death threats for it. Even PZ Myers (a scientist in the movie) says he is getting a large increase in hate mail since the movie came out. His site is kind of amusing, especially when he talks about disproving ID arguments in some of the crazed emails he gets.

As far as Ben Stein, I always liked him too, and then I started to wonder why. Because he was amusing in a game show. After this movie I have no respect for him. At least make a movie that tries to explain your beliefs instead of one that mutates reality to try to get sympathy for something that isn't there.

I would highly encourage anyone who is considering this movie to do some research on it before seeing it. Then even if you still insist on giving these people money, you will know the truth behind it.
2332  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Expelled on: April 19, 2008, 07:00:11 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on April 19, 2008, 06:57:05 PM

So that prime example in Bowling for Columbine of Moore editing Charlton Heston speeches together to misrepresent what Heston was truly saying isn't a "core fundamental misrepresentation"?

Sure it is, but misrepresentation of a crazed actor who is being used as a figurehead isn't the same as misrepresenting a philosopher or scientist who actually knows what he is talking about. smile
2333  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Bike Pr0n on: April 19, 2008, 06:57:27 PM

Quote from: spigot on April 19, 2008, 06:55:18 PM

Couple of my babies when I lived in the city. They will be missed. I also had a Trek 2200 that I can't find pictures for sadly. I long for my biking days, but they seem like distant memory after moving out to the burbs.

You cover your bikes in electrical tape??
2334  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Wii] How does it look on larger HD sets? on: April 19, 2008, 06:55:49 PM
Back when the system came out people were claiming that non-Nintendo component cables had an inferior picture. I don't know if there is any truth to that, but you might want to look into Nintendo brand cables.

As for the system, I always see them at Target.
2335  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Expelled on: April 19, 2008, 06:23:21 PM

Quote from: msduncan on April 19, 2008, 05:49:41 PM

If it comes out of Michael Moore's head, it's dismissed as bullshit by me and you aren't going to convince me if you link the library of congress.

Ignorance is bliss.
2336  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Metallica Rock Songs on: April 19, 2008, 05:07:38 PM

Quote from: joeyjazz on April 19, 2008, 04:08:04 PM

The band changed, get over it.

I think we all got over it by 1992. Metallica died and we all moved on. smile Just when someone asks for the best of Metallica, there really isn't any dispute so we have to correct the Bon Jovi fans who turned into Metallica fans after their downfall.

And I know there are people who like new and old Metallica, they just aren't real common. Well except for on online gaming forums, but they are hardly a good representation of the country. Otherwise Battlestar Gallatica would be the number one show in the country. biggrin
2337  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: I hate cable newscasters on: April 19, 2008, 03:10:58 PM

Quote from: msduncan on April 19, 2008, 03:07:36 PM

Quote from: Lee on April 19, 2008, 03:05:31 PM

Jesus, those legs.

Indeed.    I think we now officially agree on two things Lee...   love of photography and chicks.  smile nod

Hey, I may very well vote for McCain too. smile
2338  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: I hate cable newscasters on: April 19, 2008, 03:05:31 PM
Jesus, those legs.
2339  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Metallica Rock Songs on: April 19, 2008, 03:03:47 PM

Quote from: Gratch on April 19, 2008, 02:58:21 PM

It signalled the beginning of Metallica's decent into complete and utter suckitude.

smile It's always amusing the reaction Metallica gets. Even back in the day they were too hard for the new evolving glam pop metal fans (which ended up killing metal) and I used to get a lot of crap for listening to them.

You don't often meet someone who likes both new and old Metallica.
2340  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: I hate cable newscasters on: April 19, 2008, 02:55:38 PM
I guess you like blondes.

Robin in the Morning on Headline News for the win! Except she is too damn perky, I want to slap her sometimes.
2341  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Metallica Rock Songs on: April 19, 2008, 02:46:53 PM

Quote from: Laner on April 19, 2008, 02:44:33 PM

Quote from: Lee on April 19, 2008, 02:40:08 PM

And Justice is much more mainstream and slow I thought.

Maybe it's just me, I listen to some stuff that is much harder than Metallica. Even their older stuff seems pretty mellow to me anymore.
2342  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Metallica Rock Songs on: April 19, 2008, 02:40:08 PM

Quote from: ScubaV on April 19, 2008, 02:33:26 PM

Yeah, I'm looking for names of other Metallica songs.  As for being "thrash metal", that's how Wikipedia describes them.

Yeah, I just looked up Thrash Metal on Wiki myself. I guess it just means fast metal. I don't see it myself, Ride the Lightning the song is fast, the rest of the album is not. And Justice is much more mainstream and slow I thought. I think older Metallica has a rougher sound than new Metallica. They lost that edge with the Black album and became much more refined, and for me boring.
2343  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Metallica Rock Songs on: April 19, 2008, 02:28:39 PM
Since you seem to only like bad Metallica (sorry smile), I guess you will like anything after the Black album and should avoid anything before it.

Now if you are interested in finding out about the classic band, pick up Master of Puppets. Avoid Kill em All if you are don't like rawer harder music. (I am not sure if I would ever call Metallica Thrash, but Kill em All would be the only album that would be close.)
2344  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: I hate cable newscasters on: April 19, 2008, 02:16:29 PM

Quote from: msduncan on April 19, 2008, 02:00:52 PM

Kiran....    nod

I KNEW you watched CNN! smile
2345  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Expelled on: April 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Christianity Today review.

But another result of wartime Germany did not seem tangential—recurrent images of the Berlin Wall as a metaphor for the supposed "wall" in academia and scientific circles, the wall that represents the two "sides" of the debate. The filmmakers—and Stein—would say that the wall is very real, that it was constructed by the "thought police" of the scientific community (read: evolutionists) who have no intent of allowing ID proponents any access to the other side.

They really just don't get it. Science is very willing to discuss it, the problem is that science is based on putting forth a theory and then letting your peers scrutinize it. If you write a paper saying that the world is flat you have to back it up, provide evidence for why you think the earth is flat. Then you send the paper out to your peers and let them do everything they can to disprove your logic.  Intelligent design has to meet the same standards as everything else to be accepted. The problem is ID cannot be backed up with anything besides faith, and faith just doesn't work in science.

ID will be taken very seriously when evidence is put forth to give it the benefit of the doubt, just like everything else.

Honestly the only people are going to like this film are YEC who are in denial.
2346  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Wii] How does it look on larger HD sets? on: April 19, 2008, 01:56:46 PM
And Ridah falls for the gimmick. Tongue As much as graphics seem to be important to you, I would say to stay far away from the Wii.
2347  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Expelled on: April 19, 2008, 01:59:55 AM
I have been following the movie quite closely (reading reviews as well as articles from the scientist involved), and I will not be seeing it. I will not give these people money. Not only did they trick the scientist involved into the interviews and then take those interviews completely out of context to make them look bad, but most of the movie is a lie. This site has a lot of information about the movie and the people who claimed to be fired (who weren't actually). They also don't explain their viewpoints very well being very vague while they compare people who believe in evolution to Nazis.

Almost every review completely destroys the movie, even the one positive rated review I found, the text was pretty negative. It's supposedly quite badly done.

Also they are being sued for using animations without approval, what with the false pretense interviews and filling an audience with stand ins, the makers of the movie seem to be morally bankrupt as well.

9% on Rotten Tomatoes so far. I find it hard to believe anyone could give this movie a positive review if they would research it some and find out the movie is an exaggeration/lie.
2348  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 Collectors Edition...metal lunchbox!!!!! on: April 18, 2008, 03:02:44 PM

Quote from: Beer Goggles on April 18, 2008, 02:56:53 PM

Quote from: morlac on April 17, 2008, 10:17:23 PM

Quote from: Beer Goggles on April 16, 2008, 01:42:19 PM

If I had to guess, I would say that Fallout will be just as moddable as Oblivion.

A better question might be if it HAS to be modded to make it fun to play slywink

I am looking forward to all the mods.

I always do too with Oblivion, but then it gets to a point I am in now. I would love to play again, but the number of mods is so overwhelming I don't know where to start. Plus the scaling mobs is kind of turning me off.
2349  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Survivor 4/10 on: April 18, 2008, 02:56:33 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on April 18, 2008, 02:11:46 PM

The entire hour fo the show was pre-empted by a severe weather alert... farkin crap, I don't care if there's a tornado on the ground, I want my survivor - we have sirens if the tornado gets close to me.

Last night was the first time I saw the emergency alert system change the channel on my cable box though, kinda neat. it wasn't a test!

They do that channel changing thing every 30 minutes here. Couple of weeks ago we were supposed to get 7-8 inches of snow so they did the warning for a good 6 hours. I was recording some soccer games and thankfully it goes back to recording whatever it was recording in the first place, but it cut the games to 30 minute blocks on the DVR. We only got an inch or two of snow too. I was thinking about calling to complain since the warnings are usually way overboard.

Anyway, CBS has the shows online to watch.

Really boring show last night, except for the end. I really like Ozzy, despite the fact that he has Amanda, but was glad to see him go just because I always like to see the cocky guy in control get booted. The end was great. Amanda looked like someone just died in front of her.

Oh and I heard the same thing as ATB said. Jeff doesn't see anything but the competitions and councils.
2350  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: stop over logging on on: April 17, 2008, 02:44:44 PM
Great episode. South Park has been more miss than hit for me this season, but this one and Heavy Metal were instant classics.

And I was yelling at the TV, just unplug it! smile
2351  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Fit available for pre-order now on: April 16, 2008, 03:53:09 AM
I think we can thank the weak dollar for the price tag. 8800 Yen equals $86.52 today.

Interesting article about using the program for one week.

Part that worries me:

My balance is getting better, although I'm not losing weight. By today, I've figured out my main problem with Wii Fit. It's not that it weighs you every day, with the little on-screen Wii Board mascot constantly telling you in a chirpy asshole voice that you're "too fat!" It's that there's too much interstitial fluff in between the exercise.

This is supposed to be a convenient way for me to get exercise in the privacy of my own home, right? So why do I have to spend an entire hour with the thing just to get 30 minutes of aerobics? Why can't Wii Fit string together a series of exercises for me, without all the chit-chat from the announcer, without me having to pick up and put down the Wiimote constantly to cycle through screens?
2352  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Fit available for pre-order now on: April 16, 2008, 02:37:40 AM
One of the reviews I read somewhere said the board is just begging for a full skiing game, so I sure hope so.
2353  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Fit available for pre-order now on: April 16, 2008, 02:30:22 AM
Yeah the videos kind of put me off, but reading the reviews everyone seems to like it, so I pre-ordered. If nothing else it will make a nice weight tracking system while it encourages me to do things like push-ups. In other words it can't hurt and it might be fun.
2354  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: April 16, 2008, 02:23:28 AM
2-0 Avs after 6 minutes! Still my money is on the game being tied by the 3rd. icon_neutral
2355  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: We need Starcraft 2 on consoles on: April 16, 2008, 12:35:16 AM
I would agree, but I can't imagine trying to play Starcraft with a controller. A FPS you can get away with a controller, even if the mouse is far better. But for a RTS, it requires a mouse IMO.
2356  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I Had My First Whopper this past week on: April 16, 2008, 12:12:36 AM

Quote from: coopasonic on April 15, 2008, 11:37:37 PM

Quote from: mori on April 15, 2008, 11:06:09 PM

The problem with bacon on burgers is that all the fast food joints use such poor bacon. Would you eat that bacon with your eggs for breakfast? Hell no. Go to the diners that use "real", thick, crispy bacon and it is nirvana.

Any bacon is better than no bacon... except canadian bacon.

Not sure about that. McDs bacon is almost completely tasteless. Jack-in-the-Box uses choice bacon.
2357  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Wii Fit available for pre-order now on: April 16, 2008, 12:08:10 AM
If anyone is interested Amazon has Wii Fit for pre-order. May 21st, $90.
2358  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Beserk new-thread-starting on: April 15, 2008, 10:15:44 PM
Well to Daehawk's credit, Darkstar's thread title is pretty F'ing stupid. Maybe we should start a simple "Fallout 3" thread in PCs and just ban Unbreakable from it. smile
2359  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 Collectors Edition...metal lunchbox!!!!! on: April 15, 2008, 10:13:02 PM

Quote from: IkeVandergraaf on April 15, 2008, 09:42:45 PM

...and the harder it is to get it to run on modern machines.  I still would like to try to play through the first two before the third comes out.

Actually Fallout 1 plays quite well on Vista. Well besides some funny colors sometimes, but if you alt tab a couple of times they go away. I hear you don't have that problem on XP. It does look bad full screen so I turned off scaleing so I have little box to play in, but it looks good.

2 has some music issues, but there is a fix for it.

I got the them for $20+ Tactics, through Overstock (GoGamer was sold out).
2360  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Our perception of Christianity influenced by Hollywood? on: April 15, 2008, 07:36:23 PM
Well I still think Hollywood accurately portrays Christians. Most Christians don't feel the need to talk about it, just like most characters never mention it. The guys who ask you within the first 5 minutes if Jesus Christ is your savior or hands out cards to strangers telling them how great Jesus is deserve to be mocked in Hollywood. But thankfully those kind of people are very uncommon in real life and in movies/TV shows.
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