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2281  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Endless Ocean Impressions (Wii) on: January 31, 2008, 05:22:17 AM
Still playing also, at about 18-19 hours I guess. Main quest is finished, and it was obviously really easy: swim here, swim there...bang, done. I am ok with it, it could have been a bit longer is all, once you get on to it, there aren't many steps. Still have a ton of treasure to find, and about 50 fish. Kat is also telling me I didn't finish the Abyss area and I need to go search a cave I missed.  I don't even know where to begin to search for treasure since I have been everywhere. For fish it's a matter of waiting for the seasons to change, and it looks even then most of them are small fish that are hard to find anyway. So I am doing tours, and photography searches. The former take almost no effort to do and the latter is a pain in the ass since when you are trying to find a small fish you need to tow your dolphin/whale around trying to get him to play spotter for you (which not fun because almost any fish you can get to follow you anywhere, but your pet won't follow you unless you whistle constantly). And training pets seems pointless and way too tedious to go on with.

I think I am about done with it. It was enjoyable, but overall it felt kind of half assed. I really hope they put a bit more effort into the next one (if there is one). It needs to be bigger, it doesn't take long to explore the whole map and everything looks the same except for a couple areas. It is still fun finding new fish though, but almost all the big fish are findable right off the bat.
2282  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: January 30, 2008, 07:36:30 PM
Wow, that's pretty awesome Enough.
2283  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer is coming to a DS near you! on: January 28, 2008, 03:32:26 AM
I am all for short games being roguelike in that when you are dead, thats it, game over, but those were games you played in one sitting. A long RPG where I work for everything I have, I am not too into losing everything if I die, even if the game is balanced to expect that.
2284  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Endless Ocean Impressions (Wii) on: January 27, 2008, 09:27:28 AM

Quote from: TK-421 on January 27, 2008, 12:27:25 AM

Edit - Turns out the underwater pen is the secret to unlocking a lot of the deep abyss dwellers.

Yeah and it's a pain in the ass. Since the camera stays still when writing, I am having a rough time getting those fish above level 1. Not sure if that matters or not, but it's silly.

Couple of tips for anyone new to the game:

There is no need to pet any fish for longer than 15 seconds in most cases. You will get to level 2 and 3 just by petting it once the next time you see it again on a dive. In other words don't sit there and try to pet a fish for minutes trying to increase the info level. Go back to your boat and then next time you dive pet it again and it will go up a level almost immediately in most cases.

If you have a photo request for a fish, just go to the aquarium and get a picture of it there, saves you the effort of trying to find it in the wild. Doesn't work for penguins though, so just keep moving your boat until the one you want shows up on your deck. (edit: It won't accept aquarium pictures, and penguins pics taken on your boat are only "good", not that it seems to matter, since you don't seem to get a reward for either).

To 5 star a tour (although there doesn't seem to be any benefit to getting 5 stars) keep showing your customer new fish until you get a message that your customer is thrilled and you can come up now. You have to find the fish they really want to see first of course.

Best way to find treasure and small fish is to swim with your dolphin. He doesn't do too good at following you, so you have to lead him by swimming a little ways and then blowing the whistle. Then sit there and see if he points at anything. Repeat.

I am enjoying the game still, but I am at the point now where everything is explored and I am waiting for the plot to advance.
2285  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Where's the No More Heroes impressions? There they are! on: January 25, 2008, 10:51:45 PM
If a boss is a tough fight can you do jobs and increase your money to buy a better weapon?
2286  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I think I miss my parents... on: January 25, 2008, 10:44:46 PM
I can't be far enough away from mine. Going back usually results in way too much stress.
2287  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Canada gets it wrong on getting it right on: January 25, 2008, 10:40:34 PM
I think the problem here is that a lot of Christians don't follow a religion. They believe in Jesus so they consider themselves Christians even if that's as far as their spirituality goes. This may be where DarkEl is coming from, he doesn't follow a religion, but as a Christian (someone who believes in Jesus) he is offended by being associated with Mormons. Just a guess.
2288  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Because they hate us for our freedoms on: January 25, 2008, 10:37:24 PM

Quote from: Brendan on January 25, 2008, 10:33:28 PM

Quote from: Lee on January 25, 2008, 10:26:56 PM

But this article enforced my beliefs, I am all for deporting crazy people and drug addicts to other countries.

I assume this is sarcasm, and that you don't actually support booting American citizens out of the country for mental illness.

Sorry, I thought it was so outrageous that I didn't need to use smilies. I guess you never know on GT's R&P forum. smile
2289  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Because they hate us for our freedoms on: January 25, 2008, 10:26:56 PM

Quote from: Caine on January 25, 2008, 09:58:58 PM

ah, this is the link i believe.  he was cuckoo.

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After he was arrested in Colorado on a minor drug charge, Warziniack told probation officials there wild stories about being shot seven times, stabbed twice and bombed four times as a Russian army colonel in Afghanistan, according to court records. He also insisted that he swam ashore to America from a Soviet submarine.

they do admit they didn't check him out properly, so that's a relief.  Roll Eyes

Well I guess I should have read the whole article (I got bored and was just looking to see how Bush was responsible).

But this article enforced my beliefs, I am all for deporting crazy people and drug addicts to other countries.
2290  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Canada gets it wrong on getting it right on: January 25, 2008, 10:14:55 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on January 25, 2008, 09:56:28 PM


You still don't get it.  There is no "Christian" donomination.  "Christians" = various religions that believe in Christ as God.  I.e....Jehovah's Witness...all which are sects that make up "Christianity".

Oh I know you didn't just say JW are Christians! You are going to have Drazzel and ATB on your ass now.
2291  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Because they hate us for our freedoms on: January 25, 2008, 09:49:04 PM

Quote from: Caine on January 25, 2008, 09:27:50 PM

on the topic of the article, that's a pretty messed up situation you could be in. 

"you are an illegal immigrant.  why, we don't know and won't say.  we just know with our gut that you are, so you are going back to your home country.  no, we aren't going to check your birth records, because that's how you'll get us.  we aren't sure how you will do it, but rest assured, you aren't going to get away with it.  prepare to be deported back to whatever country whose people you resemble and who will accept our word that you were born there."

Which is why I think there is more to the story. How do you decide a homeless guy with a southern accent is Russian? There must be more to the story than that, otherwise you could just say anyone here is illegally, something must have led them in that direction.
2292  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Endless Ocean Impressions (Wii) on: January 25, 2008, 09:13:29 PM
About 12 hours in now, and getting a bit bored with it. I love exploring, but most of the map looks the same, and I have covered probably 90% of it. Some more variation would be nice. I still have a lot more fish to find, but I am guessing I am going to have to fast forward to different seasons for them. Plus I need to spend more time in the deep/dark area where exploring is a bit more difficult. The plot has developed a bit more, but I am not sure what I have to do next to advance it besides dive in the same area and look at the same things again.

Tours and picture requests aren't very frequent and I am not even sure if they pay off. You seem to get new stuff regardless of whether you 5 stared a tour or not. I would like a bit more game I guess.

I am starting to think the basic idea is good, but they could so so much more with it.
2293  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Canada gets it wrong on getting it right on: January 25, 2008, 09:04:52 PM

Quote from: ATB on January 25, 2008, 05:16:30 PM

In fact, based on the frequent participants of these forums , saying someone is not Christian should actually improve their standing here...so leave the buzzwords out of it.

Can we get a list of non-Christians please, I need to know who I should like here. So far I have been working off the premise that I can't like ATB, but everyone else is ok, is this correct? slywink
2294  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Canada gets it wrong on getting it right on: January 25, 2008, 08:39:20 PM

Quote from: DarkEL on January 25, 2008, 08:26:00 PM

But at the end of the day - guess what. It doesn't really matter what you want to call them. So go ahead and call mormons christians  - have fun with it. Enjoy yourself.

Well that's the interesting part, it does matter to most religions. The firm denial here is evidences enough of that. Every religion wants to think it is the one true one that makes them the real Christians, but by definition, they are all Christians, and that seems to piss people off.
2295  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Endless Ocean Impressions (Wii) on: January 25, 2008, 05:46:14 PM
Am I the only adult playing this? paranoid

(Without a kid sitting next to me that is.)
2296  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Canada gets it wrong on getting it right on: January 25, 2008, 07:31:11 AM
Mormons follow the teachings of Jesus Christ don't they? Doesn't that make them Christians? Sure they added their own book, but if the Bible was so cut and clear, why can't even a baptist and a presbyterian agree?
2297  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Because they hate us for our freedoms on: January 25, 2008, 07:24:09 AM

Quote from: unbreakable on January 25, 2008, 05:28:57 AM

Just a shining example of the kind of police state government conservatives have to offer.

Huh? How did you make the jump from government mistakes and bureaucracy to police states and conservatives?
2298  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Endless Ocean Impressions (Wii) on: January 25, 2008, 06:49:35 AM
I found a few fish I couldn't identify by petting, pushing, whistling, feeding, etc in the deep area. Anyone who has been there have any ideas on how to identify them?
2299  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Someone please tell the Killer it's over. on: January 25, 2008, 12:38:13 AM
What am I missing? I didn't see anything sad. A 50's musician was doing what looked like a kind of tribute thing. He did pretty good for a someone who is 70 something. The again I expected something really bad after Darkstar's posts.

Although I didn't watch it until the end, (since I don't like him myself), did he fall off the bench at the end or something?
2300  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Where's the No More Heroes impressions? There they are! on: January 24, 2008, 07:23:15 PM

Quote from: kronovan on January 24, 2008, 06:50:54 PM

Quote from: Teggy on January 24, 2008, 06:46:26 PM

X-Play gave it a 5 out of 5, which got my attention...

Gamespot scored it a 9 / 10 and gave it an Editors Choice award. Which is a bit surprising as they generally haven't been handing out very good scores to Wii game.

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/heroes/review.html?sid=6185000

They are probably an advertiser, that's why. smile
2301  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Endless Ocean Impressions (Wii) on: January 24, 2008, 03:32:12 PM

Quote from: Godzilla Blitz on January 24, 2008, 06:35:40 AM

I am a bit surprised, however, at the reviews which have said the game is huge. I'd say I covered about 5% of the ocean floor in about 30 minutes, and I was just aimlessly wandering about. I might be missing something here, though.

Yeah, the game doesn't seem to be very big to me. I went to the center of the map to dive and I knocked out a rather large portion of the map right there. I would say in a week I will have the whole map done. Only one section I haven't been able to enter yet was a dark rift in the ground. But I hear it doesn't take long to get equipment to get in there. Still have tons of fish to find though.

I have gotten some fish to level 2, just feed them a few times or pet them for a couple of minutes. It's tedious, and the new information isn't much more interesting then the first bit. According to a review I read you don't have to unlock the other levels if you don't want to. Some fish started following me around after I got them to level 2, and as they follow I get the sound effect for them being happy, so I guess them just following me will eventually unlock level 3.

First time seeing a whale is pretty cool, they look impressive as you see something big in the distance. Sharks are ok, it would be kind of fun if they were dangerous. Swimming near the surface in deep water I found lots of larger fast fish, and the "focus" camera couldn't keep up with them which made petting them near impossible.

You are rated on guided tours. I think the more time you spend showing the person fish the better rating you get. Although the reward seems to be the same regardless of the rating you get, although I haven't gotten a 5 star yet.

Still enjoying it for what it is and looking forward to playing it more.
2302  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Endless Ocean Impressions? (Wii) on: January 24, 2008, 02:24:54 AM
I can't add a whole lot more than what has already been said here and in reviews. Plus I have only played for an hour, in the starting area, and did one guided tour.

Graphics are good, really jagged on the boat despite using component cables (and yes 16:9) Underwater looks good, but still kind of jaggy in places. I would love to play a 360/PS3 port with amazing graphics, but would miss the Wii controls. Draw distance is ok, but you are underwater.

When you enter a named location it cuts to a little cut scene, that only plays the first time you enter. Fish change with the season and time of day supposedly, you can speed up time too if you want (didn't see any differences in day and night dives in the first area). Guiding is annoying, your customer keeps talking, which means that a message window pops up that you have to click on and he says one of a few canned messages each time. I just wanted him to shut up. The game hints that you need to show the people who take a tour the fish they want to see. The first guy wanted to see the starting location and wanted to see the one big fish in that area, so it was pretty easy (got a new suit for doing it). The game said I could do it whenever I wanted to. The next tour said I had 7 days. I also got a message about some sharks spawning on the shore line, but didn't check it out yet.

Didn't mess with the dolphin yet.

Anyway, exploring is fun, and I spent a lot of time just looking for new fish in the starting area. It is kind of addicting. It is a relaxing game as everyone else had said, but I would say to stay far away from it if you want action of any kind. As for me, I am enjoying it, and looking forward to playing some more.
2303  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Stop-Loss on: January 23, 2008, 07:20:20 PM

Quote from: ElijahPrice on January 23, 2008, 03:52:16 PM

Nor will you see the comments from the Sound Off section of the official site...

lots of contentious discussion over there..

http://www.stoplossmovie.com/SoundOff/qa.php?vid=12

Where? All I saw was how excited everyone was about the movie. Or was that sarcasm?
2304  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Iranian Boats (possibly with GWB at the helm) Harass US Warship on: January 22, 2008, 08:22:47 PM
Well I didn't say he got it correct. slywink This isn't stuff you just find on the net, so I am curious where they get their info.
2305  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Iranian Boats (possibly with GWB at the helm) Harass US Warship on: January 22, 2008, 07:37:43 PM
Would love to know where you guys get your info since none of this stuff is public.
2306  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Paczki!!!!!!!!! on: January 21, 2008, 06:14:58 PM
What's that?
2307  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (1/21) on: January 21, 2008, 05:09:19 PM
Endless Oceans is pre-ordered, looks nice a nice relaxing game.

Advanced Wars after I hear some reviews. Didn't like Dual Strike much, but supposedly this one is much better, so I am hoping.
2308  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rail Simulator on: January 21, 2008, 01:24:03 AM
Yeah sorry Windows95, I thought you were the one who said you didn't get the foreign tracks over on OO, but I went and re-read that thread. I got it completely wrong, and I apologize.

That said, DBT got it and posted minor impression over on OO. 4 routes, 1 in the US, 2 from England and 1 from Germany included in the US release.
2309  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Are you going to hell? on: January 21, 2008, 01:18:54 AM

Quote from: ATB on January 20, 2008, 07:56:52 PM

Quote from: DarkEL on January 20, 2008, 07:38:19 PM

I believe that since in college - I genuinely asked Jesus into my heart that I'm spared an eternity in Hell.

Yep. Safe.

So you speak for God? You aren't supposed to judge I thought, it's up to your God to decide who is going to hell or not. slywink

And since supposedly in your Gods eyes saying his name in vain is just as bad as being a rapist, murderer, etc, that is why I don't believe in him. I would think such a higher power would be above such trivial things, and if he's not, then he is not the god for me.
2310  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Iranian Boats (possibly with GWB at the helm) Harass US Warship on: January 19, 2008, 08:05:48 PM
You can't quote Fox News! They are less reliable than the government! slywink
2311  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Welcome to the Political Nonsense Board on: January 19, 2008, 07:50:42 PM
That's not what I was saying. You are the only one who really seems to care about R&P on GT and tend to dominate any threads on the subjects. It wasn't a knock.
2312  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fiscal Conservatives, hard at work on: January 19, 2008, 03:33:02 PM

Quote from: Purge on January 19, 2008, 12:30:36 PM

.. as they knew they'd be buying them back at full market value rather than the price purchased from auction.

There is nothing to lead you to believe that they are getting refunded the price originally paid the trailers though (market value).

The original article says:
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eligible for the full buybacks, although purchasers will be responsible for getting the trailers back to FEMA drop-off points

Other articles on the same story say people can get a refund if they bring the trailer back. None of the articles suggest people made money off of it.

Don't you think there would be a huge outrage in the article and this item would be headlines everywhere if people were getting paid $20,000 for a $6,000 trailer? The articles point is that FEMA screwed up again, that's why this was a back page news story. Also if you a search for FEMA trailers, you can see links for the original auction, they were open to almost anyone (not that I researched that one too hard).

If I am going to assume information I can turn literally turn every news story on CNN into some sort of conspiracy.

Edit: I sent the author of the article an email asking him to clear up his use of the words "full buyback." I feel a bit silly asking, because it seems pretty obvious to me.
2313  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fiscal Conservatives, hard at work on: January 19, 2008, 07:43:35 AM
So it's fishy because the government is involved???
2314  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fiscal Conservatives, hard at work on: January 19, 2008, 07:31:41 AM
Honestly, tell me what you see that is fishy.
2315  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Iranian Boats (possibly with GWB at the helm) Harass US Warship on: January 19, 2008, 07:19:35 AM

Quote from: unbreakable on January 19, 2008, 07:14:39 AM

We sure peaced the fuck out of Iraq, didn't we?

I wasn't aware we used nukes in Iraq. The nuclear mission is peace through deterrence.

As far as plans go, they don't always work.
2316  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 3:10 To Yuma on: January 19, 2008, 07:16:18 AM
Just saw it myself. Loved it until the end. They should have left it the way it was in the original.
2317  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fiscal Conservatives, hard at work on: January 19, 2008, 07:12:43 AM
I am so lost here.

FEMA sales 10,000 trailers from LA for $6000+ each.
Turns out the trailers are contanimated.
FEMA says bring us back the trailers and we will give you your money back.
FEMA loses even more money. The government looks even worse in the eyes of everyone.

I can't see anything fishy here no matter how I twist it. Explain to me what the scary "Oh my god Bush did it!" thing is coming from?
2318  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Iranian Boats (possibly with GWB at the helm) Harass US Warship on: January 19, 2008, 07:08:22 AM
Yep, you are the expert Unbreakable. Hell I am going to start asking you questions.

We changed the policy to include modern threats after the cold war. The mission is still peace through deterrence. You don't even know what you are posting, you just see key words to get alarmed about. None of these documents are talking about B-52s flying alerts with nukes, ICBMs all pointing at Egypt, or subs just waiting for a call from Bush. They included post cold war threats and made plans to deal with them. You can't be so naive to think they don't plan for everything can you?
2319  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fiscal Conservatives, hard at work on: January 19, 2008, 06:36:28 AM
Honestly what is the wrong doing here? FEMA screwed up bad, but who made any money off this?
2320  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Fiscal Conservatives, hard at work on: January 19, 2008, 03:58:36 AM

Quote from: Farscry on January 19, 2008, 03:49:21 AM

I'm a bit of a conspiracy theorist, and think that the manipulations of the power elite go far beyond what most people want to imagine, but even I think you're overreaching on this one Unbreakable.

Yeah, I am not even sure what he is getting at really. No one made money off it since the article said that FEMA bought them back for the price they were sold. In fact FEMA is losing a ton of money, which makes Bush look even worse.
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