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2281  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Music. Where to get it? on: January 11, 2008, 03:21:11 PM
Amazon has a decent service of non-DRM MP3s, for $.89 a song. Not that cheap, but not bad.
2282  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Iranian Boats (possibly with GWB at the helm) Harass US Warship on: January 10, 2008, 10:49:20 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on January 10, 2008, 08:25:40 PM

And the thing that really gets me with all this warmongering aimed at Iran is... how many countries have they attacked in the last 100 years?

Israel. They fund Hezbollah.
2283  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: TSA perfects the "art" of zero tolerance. on: January 10, 2008, 01:29:13 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on January 10, 2008, 07:15:11 AM

Yay liberals.  Yay big government.

Yeah, that's only a liberal thing. icon_neutral Ignorance is bliss I guess. slywink
2284  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Iranian Boats (possibly with GWB at the helm) Harass US Warship on: January 10, 2008, 03:06:58 AM

Quote from: msduncan on January 10, 2008, 03:04:41 AM

What we believe is fact.    Anyone that doesn't believe it is ignorant.    We are not tolerant of ignorance.

You should have put a smilie after that, otherwise you look slightly intolerant and irrational yourself.
2285  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Obama takes Iowa-is this the end for Hillary? on: January 10, 2008, 02:58:05 AM

Quote from: msduncan on January 10, 2008, 02:56:13 AM

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Isn't that how msduncans ilk do?

Classy.

You just compared someone who disagrees with you to a terrorist in another thread. I think you lost any chance of being the decider of class.
2286  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Iranian Boats (possibly with GWB at the helm) Harass US Warship on: January 10, 2008, 02:55:01 AM

Quote from: msduncan on January 10, 2008, 02:49:28 AM

Question:   if the left is supposed to be so tolerant, why in the **** are you guys the most obnoxious and intolerant of anyone I know?

Rush
O'Reilly
Hannity
Glen Beck
Cavuto
Liddy
Keys
Etc.

Yeah, the liberals are the intolerant obnoxious ones.
2287  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: TSA perfects the "art" of zero tolerance. on: January 10, 2008, 02:48:00 AM
The only thing left I can say about it is this (not there really is anything left to say): We don't know how it went down. It could have been "Sorry Ma'am, we know this is silly, it will take 5 minutes but we have to go through the procedures." Notice she didn't say anyone stopped her from hugging her child, she was just re-searched afterwards, which probably meant a wand, not a strip search. She also wasn't delayed enough to miss her flight.

Or it could have been the Men in Black putting everyone in separate rooms quizzing them for hours, after the strip searches of course, with them just barely making their flight.

Or maybe it was somewhere in between, but in the video there didn't seem to be any outrage (or many details), it seemed the mother thought it was all just a bit silly more than anything else. We may be over reacting to the whole thing.

And finally, I just have to say Blackader, you are a bad ass.
2288  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: TSA perfects the "art" of zero tolerance. on: January 09, 2008, 11:45:20 PM
As has been said, I doubt the list contains details. If their lists says a 6' tall man with a tattoo on his right arm, then no, this would not be acceptable. Refine the list, but until it is, they have to follow procedures.
2289  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: TSA perfects the "art" of zero tolerance. on: January 09, 2008, 11:42:12 PM

Quote from: noun on January 09, 2008, 11:37:08 PM

Ah, the old "they didn't mind having their liberties irrationally violated, so why should you care?" argument.

I care because a 5 year old showing up on a no-fly list is a big indicator that something is broken. That they searched him anyway is a sign that no one plans on fixing it.

I am not saying things couldn't be refined, but in all honesty if national security inconveniences a few people a day, I just don't have a problem with it.
2290  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: TSA perfects the "art" of zero tolerance. on: January 09, 2008, 11:40:22 PM

Quote from: noun on January 09, 2008, 11:28:09 PM

Quote from: Lee on January 09, 2008, 11:22:00 PM

I am a fool then

Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

Or it's another sign I need to avoid internet forums.

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I watched a tape of Palestinian kids armed with rifles talking about the death of Israel.

This is relevant how?

Terrorist using/brainwashing kids for their purpose.

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I, and my coworker, were singled out by the TSA and giving a more thorough search because we were told to tell them we were active duty military on orders. I had to wait another 10-20 minutes and had to have my bags searched more thoroughly because of it. I find the story amusing, but I didn't over react about it.

I wonder how you'd react if they were searching your child and preventing you from comforting him.

As has been said, I don't have kid's so I can't comment. I need more information and the other side of things too. This could have been a 5 minute thing and the kid could have been 5' away from her and not at all upset. Was the research of the mother a 5 second thing just because they were following procedure?

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They are doing their jobs

What are you basing this on?

Well I would assume when a name is flagged they have a checklist to go on. Saying "Oh, it's just a kid, the list must be wrong, let him through" would not be acceptable and would be a serious breach of security.
2291  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: TSA perfects the "art" of zero tolerance. on: January 09, 2008, 11:31:15 PM
After watching the video (only read the article before), we don't have much information to go by. How long were they detained (they still made their flight)? The mother implies, with a smile, that her son was accused of bing a criminal, but it just sounds like his name was on the list so they searched him and his belongings. He wasn't accused of anything, just had to go through an extra search. This really is a non-story.

They followed their checklists is all, they did their jobs. If it was some reporter trying to test them and he was allowed through there would be the same outrage.
2292  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: TSA perfects the "art" of zero tolerance. on: January 09, 2008, 11:22:00 PM

Quote from: noun on January 09, 2008, 11:13:04 PM

Quote from: Lee on January 09, 2008, 11:10:16 PM

Quote from: noun on January 09, 2008, 10:55:14 PM

First comment on the article says it all - the terrorists have won.

Yep, since we can only bring bottled water on a flight and the occasional person goes through a hassle, they have won. If that is winning, then we really need to consider our lives a little more closely. We are bitching about inconveniences, nothing more.

No. We are bitching because our nation has become IRRATIONAL due to FEAR. Anyone that thinks some crying 5 year old is a security risk is a fool.



I am a fool then, kids can be used. I watched a tape of Palestinian kids armed with rifles talking about the death of Israel. And even if the kid didn't know any better he could be used. I am not saying this is a great thing, I just can't generate any outrage over it. As I said, the one time something thought to be minor does get through that no one would have thought of, where will the outrage be?

I, and my coworker, were singled out by the TSA and giving a more thorough search because we were told to tell them we were active duty military on orders. I had to wait another 10-20 minutes and had to have my bags searched more thoroughly because of it. I find the story amusing, but I didn't over react about it. They are doing their jobs and if they didn't there would be even more outrage.
2293  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: TSA perfects the "art" of zero tolerance. on: January 09, 2008, 11:10:16 PM

Quote from: noun on January 09, 2008, 10:55:14 PM

First comment on the article says it all - the terrorists have won.

Yep, since we can only bring bottled water on a flight and the occasional person goes through a hassle, they have won. If that is winning, then we really need to consider our lives a little more closely. We are bitching about inconveniences, nothing more.

If a 5 year old was on the do not fly list because he was a son of a major threat, but he was allowed on the flight and something did happen, what would be the result? The TSA has a list, they did their jobs, yeah it sucks that has to go on, but come on, really, the terrorists have won?
2294  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: TSA perfects the "art" of zero tolerance. on: January 09, 2008, 09:40:55 PM

Quote from: Calvin on January 09, 2008, 09:34:15 PM

Quote from: Lee on January 09, 2008, 09:23:14 PM

Good, I am glad they did their jobs. These groups use kids quite often.
You would feel the same way if it was your kid. Absolutely. For sure.

No, as a white guy I wouldn't, but profiling works. I have been picked out by the TSA because I am military, and the inconvenience was minor.

I have watched a few documentaries on the Palestinians, and the use kids to their advantage. Get to them while they are young and use them to your advantage basically. I wouldn't put it past AQ to do the same if it suited them. So I am sorry the family was inconvenienced, but in the end, tough shit.

The TSA is in a no win situation. If they are over protective they get crap, but if one incident gets by them, we would be saying they are worthless.
2295  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: TSA perfects the "art" of zero tolerance. on: January 09, 2008, 09:23:14 PM
Good, I am glad they did their jobs. These groups use kids quite often.
2296  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Portal:First Slice free to nVidia users on: January 09, 2008, 08:59:25 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on January 09, 2008, 08:29:50 PM

Quote from: Zarkon on January 09, 2008, 08:27:29 PM

Clicked on it, and nothing happened.  Did it again and it worked, but then said I already redeemed it on another account.  What'd I do wrong?

I assume you checked your Steam Games list?  maybe if you have the full version it doesn't show up.

I click on the "I have Steam installed" button, IE/Firefox asks me if I want to run a program, I click yes/allow and then nothing. Nothing shows up in my Steam games either.

Edit: Got it. Exit Steam completely, then run the above link. Steam will log on and ask you if you want to install Portal.
2297  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: January 09, 2008, 07:49:01 PM
The scary part is half of the girls are his wives. smile
2298  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Well, so much for those polls that had Obama up in NH by double digits. on: January 09, 2008, 07:23:37 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on January 09, 2008, 07:06:35 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on January 09, 2008, 06:45:47 PM

Yeah the Clintons have never been mentioned in connection with some shady business deals or people of questionable character.   Roll Eyes
There was a very long, drawn out, and expensive (how many hundreds of millions?) investigation... and the only thing they came up with was... a BJ.

Yeah, but they came out with a lot of people (including me) thinking that they got away with something. I don't think the Clintons were innocent in Whitewater, and now they have a stigma attached to them because of it.
2299  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Minty green PSP..uh...ewww on: January 09, 2008, 07:02:23 PM
Really like the color myself.
2300  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Well, so much for those polls that had Obama up in NH by double digits. on: January 09, 2008, 05:17:19 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on January 09, 2008, 05:09:46 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on January 09, 2008, 05:02:12 PM

But I like it the way one blogger framed it: it's nice that nobody is getting coronated (despite the media's attempts to do so), and that all the candidates actually have to (gasp!) make their case to the voters.

Cite.  In particular, the "despite the media's attempts to do so".

I don't know if you can cite that, just go to/watch CNN, MSNBC, etc and decide for yourself. Edwards isn't getting a lot of talk on MSNBC when I have watched last night and last Thursday. It's all about Hilliary and Obama with very little even said about the Republicans.

I did watch Fox for awhile last night and they seemed to be only talking about the republicans.
2301  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Well, so much for those polls that had Obama up in NH by double digits. on: January 09, 2008, 05:13:39 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on January 09, 2008, 05:02:12 PM

But... LOL, did you see his "victory" speech?  Wow.  Bad.

The only truly great speeches I have seen, from either side, are from Obama. He comes across as very presidential and is winning me over a bit more every time I see him talk. He's a natural at it.
2302  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: January 09, 2008, 04:33:04 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on January 09, 2008, 04:28:03 PM

there's no way that's real.  please?

It couldn't be, the water would seep into the back pf the power strip. Unless it's some ultra rare/expensive water proof strip of course.
2303  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Iranian Boats (possibly with GWB at the helm) Harass US Warship on: January 08, 2008, 11:26:46 PM

Quote from: ATB on January 08, 2008, 08:13:12 PM

You believe Iranian state run TV more so than liberal mouthpiece CNN?

The only people who say that don't watch CNN. Just because everything isn't pro-Bush and they don't show a bunch of pieces saying how great he is. They also don't fill up their time slots with very biased commentary like some other station does (Larry King is hardly political 95% of the time). I would say CNN leans to the left, but they are hardly a mouth piece for the left. Now Fox is 100% right and their shows reflect it. They call it the no spin zone, but it is the complete opposite. And don't get me wrong, I don't like CNN, but if I want news without the commentary they are who I go to.

On a related note I was listening to Rush on phoner call in Friday. A major topic was that people were mad because Rush wouldn't go over each candidate and say whether they were conservative or not. To Rush's credit he refused to do so, but people were upset with him for it. It's like they wanted to be told how to think.
2304  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: SpaceForce Captains rpg/rts/tacbat on: January 08, 2008, 02:04:34 AM

Quote from: ROTC1983 on January 07, 2008, 11:18:17 PM

I might take the plunge and just purchase it.  smile

I wouldn't, it appears to be unplayable it's so buggy. JoWoods patch history is not very good either, but a patch is in the works.

News comments section from official website (the forums don't say much).
2305  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Obama takes Iowa-is this the end for Hillary? on: January 07, 2008, 06:52:16 AM

Quote from: Graham on January 07, 2008, 06:16:41 AM

Show me where in the Constitution that our social programs are supposed to be funded by the government.  It specifically says that the government is responsible for post offices, posting roads, and army, navy, and posting defenses.  It doesn't say anything about funding social programs.

Does it mention the Air Force in there?? I hope so or we're going to have to get rid of it since the Constitution doesn't actually call for one.
2306  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Decent looking Sci Fi movie coming out Tuesday: Sunshine on: January 06, 2008, 10:29:06 PM
You forgot to mention one thing, it's supposed to be good! smile 76% on Rotten Tomatoes and 7.3 on IMDb.
2307  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Netflix or Blockbuster for Blu-Ray? on: January 05, 2008, 07:31:14 PM
As a side note Netflix's Watch it Now service is greatly improving. While the library needs to expand I can always find something I wouldn't mind seeing on there if I am bored. The full screen picture is quite good now, close to standard TV I would say, although the lack of forward and back buttons is annoying.
2308  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: David Lynch does an iPhone commercial on: January 05, 2008, 07:23:42 PM
Who buys a phone to watch movies on? It's more of an "I am stuck at the airport for 5 hours and I need something to do" kind of thing. Not to mention that there are tons of movies that are perfectly acceptable on a small screen (including most of DL's movies).
2309  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Awesome Video - If it's Real! on: January 01, 2008, 09:37:07 PM
Yeah that's a pretty cool video (search Youtube for "Nike soccer" or "Joga Bonito", there are a few good ones out there). Supposedly Nike admitted that it was fake, but I never saw anything official. Ronaldinho is really good (at least he used to be, he likes to party too much nowadays), but I doubt he is that good, so I would vote fake which seemed to be the general consensus when I first saw it a couple of years ago.
2310  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Just out of curiousity... on: December 30, 2007, 08:22:34 PM
Now that everyone seems to like the PS3 here, can we bring back Hetz too? slywink
2311  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: RIAA: Ripping purchased CDs is illegal! on: December 30, 2007, 08:08:54 PM

Quote from: Daehawk on December 30, 2007, 07:21:30 PM

You can download what you want free.

Which is why the RIAA is there in the first place.
2312  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Benazir Bhutto assassinated on: December 30, 2007, 07:08:34 AM

Quote from: ATB on December 30, 2007, 06:02:12 AM

Quote from: Lee on December 30, 2007, 12:18:58 AM

Sure ATB, but God wanted Bush to be president, so we expected a little bit more from him. slywink

Source?

He didn't actually say it directly, but it has been no secret that he thinks God intervenes in the world, implying that God is on his side. He did say that God wanted him to run for president.

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Stephen Mansfield, author of The Faith of George W. Bush, goes on to say: "Not long after, Bush called James Robison (a prominent minister) and told him, 'I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for President.' " Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention heard Bush say something similar: "Among the things he said to us was: I believe that God wants me to be president, but if that doesn't happen, it's OK.' "

Or here:

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Bush said to James Robinson: 'I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.'

Just do a search for Bush mandate from god and you get a ton of hits for things Bush has said. A lot of them implying that he thinks God choose him.

Edit: Canuck beat me to it. There is a whole book about it actually
2313  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Benazir Bhutto assassinated on: December 30, 2007, 12:18:58 AM
Sure ATB, but God wanted Bush to be president, so we expected a little bit more from him. slywink
2314  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Anyone Here Have a Gmail Account? on: December 28, 2007, 10:20:01 PM
GMail offers free POP3 access with Outlook, I like it just for that.

As far as junkmail Hotmail and Gmail seem equal to me, both very good. Now my Yahoo account gets dozens of junk emails a day.
2315  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Benazir Bhutto assassinated on: December 28, 2007, 08:01:37 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on December 28, 2007, 07:51:27 PM

I think people are starting to forget that as the memory of 911 fades.

How could people forget, Giuliani won't let them. He was just comparing Pakistan's sadness over this event to 9/11 this morning.
2316  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Hello Mike on: December 28, 2007, 04:11:56 AM
I will go ahead and go on record and say this is going to be really bad. smile
2317  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Benazir Bhutto assassinated on: December 28, 2007, 04:11:06 AM

Quote from: denoginizer on December 28, 2007, 03:38:20 AM

What should we have done instead?

I don't know what he should have done, but it is very hypocritical. We justify Iraq by saying we had to get rid of a dictator and spread democracy, yet we ignore other countries when it suits us (not that Musharraf compares to Saddam). If we cared about democracy and human rights we would be playing a role in Africa instead of a blind eye with the occasional comment to condemn the violence.
2318  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: So, what did you get for Christmas? on: December 25, 2007, 05:01:59 PM

Quote from: Arkon on December 25, 2007, 12:44:13 PM

An Alton Brown Saltcellar

That's awesome, I have been wanting one of those forever but never found one I liked (not that I found many). I didn't know Alton Brown sold stuff, off to go buy one.

Edit: Thanks to Arkon I got to looking around Alton's site and ended up with one of these too:



Can't wait to try it out, if I like that angled handle I may have to replace my Global Chef knife too.

I bought myself way too many Xmas presents this year.
2319  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Massive Steam sale going on right now!! on: December 25, 2007, 04:24:00 AM

Quote from: unbreakable on December 25, 2007, 01:20:18 AM

Is X3 worth getting for $10?

I was going to get it, but figured I would try the demo first just to make sure. I couldn't run the demo on Vista because it said I need to be logged on as the administrator, but I already was. So if you get it, you might want to see if you get the demo to run first.
2320  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: So, what did you get for Christmas? on: December 24, 2007, 05:18:09 AM
Congrats Ken, would love to hear impressions after you have it a bit longer.

I did pretty good this year (We had Xmas last weekend when I went home early to avoid the rush).

I got:
Arsenal jersey
Arsenal scarf
Bristol City jersey
Indian cookbook
mandoline
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