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121  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Re: [iOS] OTTTD (Was Cool June Releases) on: July 12, 2014, 04:40:34 PM
Picked up OTTTD. Not sure I like it for two reasons, maybe I am missing something? Tower/enemy info is lacking in game. You can look in the encyclopedia outside of missions, but that does me little good in mission, especially with 3 different damage types, I can't remember what's what during a mission. This is especially annoying as more tower types are available. That, and the lack of a pause where I can look around and examine things. They probably want it to be hectic, but I find it less enjoyable because of it.
122  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What's for Lunch Today? on: July 10, 2014, 07:16:31 PM

Quote from: ATB on July 10, 2014, 07:03:50 PM

Tried the quesarito yesterday. It was AMAZING.

I don't think you can describe anything from TB as amazing. Tongue (I like TB, just never go there when there is much higher quality fast food available.)

I have heard the original Quesarito from Chipotle is amazing.. Unfortunately I don't have a Chipotle close, so I haven't tried it. It's Qdoba when I want Mexican fast food. (Can't eat at any these places often at my age though, don't know how you guys do it.)
123  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Sarah Palin demands...DEMANDS...impeachment. Can still see Russia from porch. on: July 10, 2014, 02:47:05 AM
But isn't that every president? Seems like they all, left and right, do whatever they can to get what they want done with little regard for congress or anyone else.

Anyway, if SCOTUS says it's constitutional, it is, case closed, no?
124  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Calculus on: July 10, 2014, 02:44:07 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on July 10, 2014, 02:19:38 AM

I used to tutor the kids working nights at my call center job when they were having algebra issues.  I'd certainly be willing to offer any assistance I can in that arena.

Thanks Isgrmnur, might take you up on that. Probably won't be until next year when I try again. Going to get all the other classes knocked out first.
125  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What's for Lunch Today? on: July 10, 2014, 02:42:38 AM

Quote from: Ironrod on July 10, 2014, 02:26:51 AM

Quote from: Lee on July 10, 2014, 12:50:30 AM

Quote from: Ironrod on July 09, 2014, 10:38:06 PM

Every day I have a ham-and-cheese on rye with a handful of potato chips and a glass of skim milk. When I'm feeling wild I change up the ham with turkey or roast beef, but I don't think the excitement is good for me.

I guess you haven't read the studies that say whole milk is better for you. icon_neutral

I have. They are specifically about children and weight control, but you can reasonably generalize to adults. Milkfat makes you feel fuller so you eat less; those who drink low- or nonfat milk tend to eat more and often overcompensate for the "missing" calories. However, I benefit from the calorie savings in skim because I always eat the same lunch. Apart from the fat, skim milk is nutritionally equivalent to whole milk in vitamins, calcium, etc.

Take that, science.

Sorry, was making a joke referring to the Zeke thread.
126  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What's for Lunch Today? on: July 10, 2014, 01:12:03 AM

Quote from: gellar on July 09, 2014, 06:03:02 PM

Probably a chicken doner plate from the Mediterranean place down the street.

I think you won.

I had a homemade ground turkey burrito. Which will also be dinner and lunch for the next 2-3 days.
127  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Sarah Palin demands...DEMANDS...impeachment. Can still see Russia from porch. on: July 10, 2014, 12:58:39 AM
I think you guys might be underestimating her fame. When I worked with 99% conservative, they all loved her. I still see the occasional thing on Facebook quoting her. I think she's still pretty popular in Jesusland.

I still don't understand the grounds for impeachment. The immigration problem that is no worse than before, but is getting more media attention? I don't understand how the president doesn't respect the Constitution because of the whole healthcare thing either. I got in a FB argument with a fundamentalist Christian friend of mine (alone with all his friends) that swear up and down that he is destroying this country. Just because the Supreme Court says that the current healthcare solution is constitutional, that doesn't mean it is etc...

I just don't understand politics anymore. I think I would rather just put my head in the sand.
128  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What's for Lunch Today? on: July 10, 2014, 12:50:30 AM

Quote from: Ironrod on July 09, 2014, 10:38:06 PM

Every day I have a ham-and-cheese on rye with a handful of potato chips and a glass of skim milk. When I'm feeling wild I change up the ham with turkey or roast beef, but I don't think the excitement is good for me.

I guess you haven't read the studies that say whole milk is better for you. icon_neutral
129  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Calculus on: July 10, 2014, 12:49:13 AM
It's a combination of not remembering everything about algebra and the calculator I think are my problems. I panicked a bit each day when the instructor was going over everything from the day before and everyone else seemed to get it but me. And the repeated "you should know this".

I have been playing with the calculator and learning how to use it (thanks youtube), but for algebra I think I just need a good refresher. I am working on getting through algebra on Kahn Academy so maybe that will be enough.

I dropped the class both times when we got into limits. I get the idea, but then I would get home and do the homework and I didn't feel like I even began to understand it enough to get through the homework. I don't think its the professors fault, so I wonder if there is some class I should take before this one, such as pre-calculus maybe?

Seems like a of kids struggle through this class. I need to give up the idea of getting an A on everything and just get through it.
130  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: World Cup 2014 on: July 10, 2014, 12:35:04 AM

Quote from: hepcat on July 09, 2014, 01:01:34 PM

I suspect he's a pariah at home today.  I doubt he'll be coaching soccer at this level much longer.

That seems a bit unfair to me. I really think it was because of the players, this wasn't a strong Brazil side. Outside of Neymar they didn't have anyone above average at this level of play, players like Fred, Hulk, and Luiz are way overrated (which they proved). Their goal keeper, Julio Cesar plays in the MLS, which to knock the MLS, doesn't say much for him. He is past his prime. Tongue Scolari had limited choices and did what he could with what he had. Brazil were the favorites, mainly it seemed, because they were the home team, but watching them I didn't think they were that impressive. They're good, but never looked close to the teams of 10-20 years ago.

I think Scolari will be fired and he will go back to club level soccer making more money than he did on the international level. He didn't have a great WC, but they did make it to the semi finals (this is the WC after all, that's pretty good) and he has a decent record as a manager.

One of the Brazilian newspapers rated every single player a 0, I didn't see a translation, but it was still pretty funny.

Side note, I suck at predicting scores, but I called Germany v Argentina in the final. icon_smile
131  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: World Cup 2014 on: July 10, 2014, 12:12:51 AM
I guess maybe Krul is a specialist compared to Cillessen, who has never saved a penalty, but one good game doesn't make him a specialist. For a goalie penalties are so much about luck and how steady the nerves of the penalty taker are. Krul deserves credit, because he did "guess" the right way every time in that game, but I would have to see him do it a couple of more times before I would praise him as being good at penalties.

The decision was also a slap in the face to Cillessen, which may have caused him to have confidence issues this game. I think it put even more pressure on him today. Also Krul's behavior, getting in to everyones face, was disgusting. I used to like the Dutch, but this years team really changed my opinion of them. Diving thugs who started off strong but failed to impress outside of the group stage.
132  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: World Cup 2014 on: July 09, 2014, 10:47:49 PM

Quote from: kronovan on July 09, 2014, 10:40:07 PM

This time the men in orange haven't subbed in their shootout goalie specialist.

I hope that was sarcasm.  icon_razz
133  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Microsoft Surface - Surface Pro 2 unveiled on: July 09, 2014, 02:57:06 AM
The firmware patches are part of Windows update, you don't have to do anything special to get them, Destructor. There were 2, IIRC, today that were part of the 17 or so updates. So far no problems, and the track pad issue hasn't come up again. I just hate the track pad in general though, I wish MS would copy Apple. The keyboard otherwise is quite nice, mostly definitely a step up from the 1st version. I still have my old wedge mouse from my Surface 1, so I have been using that. Not the greatest mouse, but works.

Curious, do you have an AC router? Maybe this firmware update will help you.

I don't use the pen much right now, I will when I get back to school, but right now this thing is just a fancy web browser. I have noticed the hover lag, but doesn't really bug me.
134  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 08, 2014, 10:13:37 PM

Quote from: Zekester on July 08, 2014, 10:12:12 PM

Quote from: Lee on July 08, 2014, 06:22:37 PM

Quote from: Zekester on July 08, 2014, 01:06:30 PM

For the record i'm not trying to be an ass with my posts, but the views on this forum are so slanted to one side a balance has to come from somewhere.

...and that other thread being locked, I reported no one.

I thought you left R&P? Attention whore.

Figures you like soccer. Attention fag.

Still posting?
135  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: World Cup 2014 on: July 08, 2014, 09:23:44 PM
Brazil fans booing their own player (Fred) every time he touches the ball. Stay classy soccer fans.
136  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: World Cup 2014 on: July 08, 2014, 08:56:19 PM

Quote from: kronovan on July 08, 2014, 08:46:01 PM

Yep, would never have predicted this - all sorts of records being set in this match! I don't have the audio where I'm watching  it, so I'm curious if the usually very noisy Brazilian crowd is rather silent?

Very quiet, you can hear the small German contingent singing though. Tears are flowing!

Brazil did seem to get their act together the last 5 minutes. I just don't think this team is good enough to come back from this. Fred as their only striker doesn't instill much hope.
137  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: World Cup 2014 on: July 08, 2014, 08:39:25 PM
This is amazing, 5-0 as I type this. Complete collapse of Brazil, I almost feel sorry for them.
138  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Hearthstone on: July 08, 2014, 06:41:59 PM
Expansion news.

First wing free if you log in during the promotion period. Other four are $7/700gp a wing. Also has bundle pricing. Release sometime soon, don't see an exact date.
139  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 08, 2014, 06:22:37 PM

Quote from: Zekester on July 08, 2014, 01:06:30 PM

For the record i'm not trying to be an ass with my posts, but the views on this forum are so slanted to one side a balance has to come from somewhere.

...and that other thread being locked, I reported no one.

I thought you left R&P? Attention whore.
140  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Microsoft Surface - Surface Pro 2 unveiled on: July 08, 2014, 06:16:14 PM
You beat me to it Isgrimnur, just came to post that.

Did some research on my issues. The trackpad, I have no idea what the problem is, but it seems intermittent. With my first Surface I had to reattach the keyboard at times to clear up minor issues with it. Guess things haven't changed there (could just be me). The wifi problem was introduced in a June 21 firmware update that only affects machines connected to AC routers after they are woken up from sleep mode. The suggested fix is to downgrade the firmware and turn off auto updates. You can just turn wifi off and on for a temporary fix the problem as well.

Still torn on it, it's not a huge problem, but annoying. I don't understand why MS isn't rolling back the drivers/firmware themselves. That it's been 2.5 weeks and it's still not fixed is concerning. At this point I think I will wait a couple more days and see what happens.

Edit: Ha, new firmware just released that supposedly fixes it. Will post later if it actually does or not.
141  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Microsoft Surface - Surface Pro 2 unveiled on: July 08, 2014, 05:41:41 AM
And mine is buggy. Just woke it up, trackpad wouldn't work. Rebooted and trackpad works for the most part but pauses at times. The wifi either times out or takes a very long time to load anything. It's supposedly a driver issue that was introduced with an update in late June. Don't know what to do, I really like it, but this is unacceptable. Not sure how long the return policy is, but I don't think I want to wait for them to fix it either. This thing is too expensive to not work perfectly out of the box.
142  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 08, 2014, 03:01:57 AM

Quote from: hepcat on July 08, 2014, 02:31:55 AM

crybaby

No Zeke means fewer laughs.  This thread became tragic.

He doesn't mean it, he needs the attention. He'll be back.
143  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Changes in gaming habits over the years... on: July 08, 2014, 01:04:57 AM
What bothers me most in the way I have changed with gaming is my unwillingness to learn how to play new games, and how quickly I give up on a challenge. Back in my C64 days in the 80s, where I pirated everything I could get my hands on, I would dedicate all my time to learning a new game, no matter how complicated. If the game was difficult, I would play and play until I got past the part that was I was struggling with. Now? If I can't learn a game in 10 minutes, I don't have much interest. And forget reading manuals, I never do it anymore. Back in the golden days when games came with hefty manuals that was one of my favorite things to do, sit down and read through it (Darklands, Ultima IV, and Battle of Britain come to mind). Also, now if I find a game overly hard, I give up rather than repeatedly try to get past it.

I was like you Rittchard, and doing all my gaming on iOS, but the way the games have changed, I don't even play those much anymore. I can't be bothered with the majority of the F2P stuff and there is just too much garbage out there that I can't be bothered to sift through.

Still, I am PC gaming more lately and kind of enjoying it again.
144  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Microsoft Surface - Surface Pro 2 unveiled on: July 08, 2014, 12:52:37 AM
Gabe of Penny Arcade posted some more about his Surface 3 today. He basically finds it almost unusable for drawing.

While I will only really use the pen for OneNote, which it seems to work fine with, this scares me. Is it a software problem that they can fix? Or is it a hardware, which will mean MS will be quick to push out a new version to fix it? Would be quite disappointed if its the later causing my system will be quickly outdated.
145  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Re: iPhone/iTouch app and game thread on: July 07, 2014, 09:14:21 PM

Quote from: rittchard on July 07, 2014, 08:11:16 PM

I ultimately decided it wasn't for me, but iOS just got a new Monster Hunter release which seems to be pretty well received.  

http://toucharcade.com/2014/07/03/monster-hunter-freedom-unite-review/



Shocking, TA gives a 5 star review to a big name game. icon_lol I expect no less from them. I am sure it's good, just not my type of game.
146  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Microsoft Surface - Surface Pro 2 unveiled on: July 07, 2014, 05:45:58 PM
Thanks for the recommendation. I plant to get one next month. Need to spread the pain out.  icon_neutral

Not usually a warranty guy, but on a mobile device it makes me feel a bit better about dropping it, etc.
147  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Microsoft Surface - Surface Pro 2 unveiled on: July 07, 2014, 07:40:09 AM
Yep, MS store. I am hoping they send me a customer survey. I really liked the 2 employees that were helping me and would like to leave good feedback for them as well. Even if the manager had been more helpful, it looked really bad, if it wasn't for the uniform I would have just assumed he was some guy playing Xbox while he was waiting for his girlfriend. He never once talked to me even though he came over at least 3 times trying to get the discount right.

Been playing with OneNote, it's pretty smooth. Very easy to use but some of the interface options are a bit confusing (for instance adding rows/columns to a table should be easier). When using the pen it removes all of the interface so it feels like you are using a pen on a blank piece of paper. I would like the tool bar to stay up though, it slowed me down a bit having to switch between pen and keyboard when a quick button press would have been easier. For a productivity device I am really liking it. Although it would never replace an iPad for a general screwing around while watching tv device. And if I was typing a paper it wouldn't replace a full laptop with keyboard just because the feel of the keyboard isn't quite the same. The track pad sucks compared to a MacBook's trackpad as well. It really does fall somewhere in the middle between a tablet and laptop. Doesn't quite live up to either but is decent at both. Still the main thing holding it back is Windows 8. I do think it will be perfect for school.
148  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Microsoft Surface - Surface Pro 2 unveiled on: July 07, 2014, 04:02:25 AM
I am weak, I got one. Got at 10% discount for being a veteran, which made it a bit easier to stomach. Got the i5 8GB model. Destructor is right, it is way over priced, I just can't see buying a laptop with less than 8GB. Also I was shopping for a Windows laptop earlier this year and found most to be cheap crap. For a decent laptop not made of plastic and low quality parts you are easily going to pay $1500. If you compare the Surface to the better ultrabooks out there, the price isn't that bad. The hardware feels to be very high quality and the specs are decent with the a great display and AC wifi. (Praying I don't have the reported wifi issues.)

I am an Apple guy, so I am biased, but MS has a lot to learn from Apple as far as stores go. Employees needed the manager's help with the discount. The manager was busy playing Xbox and was quite annoyed that he had to help out. They were trying to get me a package deal with the warranty, case etc, which would have been cheaper, but they couldn't get it to work with the discount. Again the manager was too busy to care. I almost walked out due to him, but the employees themselves were doing everything they could to work it out and were very friendly. You could tell they were very embarrassed by the manager as well. I am going to see if I can leave store feedback somewhere.

I am very impressed though. New kickstand is great. Touch keyboard has greatly improved. OneNote with the stylus is nothing short of great. I would kill for an iPad with a stylus like that, but it don't think Apple will ever do it because they are so against stylus. Note taking with my finger just doesn't work well unfortunately.

Windows 8 though, ugh. Had to run a bunch of updates. Figured a new device would be more up to date and/or they could bundle the updates to one download like you would get on an Apple computer. 2 firmware updates later, as well as about 50 software updates it's working well.

Metro still seems very tacked on. I shouldn't have two different sections for preferences. You have Metro preferences and then you have desktop preferences. I can't change the track pad options in desktop options, I have to use Metro's preferences. Plus I had to reboot just to get the trackpad preferences to even show. I don't use Windows much, so maybe I'm just rusty, but I am having a hard time just finding things despite the improvements. Still Windows 8 is getting better.

Nice to see there is no longer screen magnification. Civ 5 you had to mess with magnification on a Surface 1' but that is gone. This time I had to jump through a few hoops to get it running buy it seems to work fine now. It does get very hot though. Other games like Air Patrol work great as well. It seems like this could be a decent gaming machine outside of FPS.

I am disappointed to see that metro apps are still not the same as desktop apps. The metro Evernote app even asked if I wanted to install the desktop app, which is vastly superior. Having two different versions of one app is just silly. Metro should take me to the desktop app.

So while I really like it, Windows 8 is still the major thing holding it back. But as I said, I am an Apple guy, that may just because I am not used to it.
149  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Microsoft Surface - Surface Pro 2 unveiled on: July 06, 2014, 09:47:19 PM
Thanks Naednek, I don't read DQ as much as I used to and missed that. Always trust Bill Harris's opinion.

Destructor, I thought when I bought at Surface 1 it came with free Office? Now that I think about it, you are right, it came with a free year of 365.

I was looking at the more expensive model for the memory more than the drive. I use cloud services so much that I don't need the bigger drive, and this won't be a machine used for storing big items or watching movies. More memory would be nice for the occasional game like Civ V, which I know from my Surface 1 has a touch interface. I didn't like gaming on the 1st one because the screen was too squished and before loading a game you had to go into menus to change the screen magnification first otherwise much of the interface was cut off. That is my first question, do you still have to mess with magnification for running desktop applications, and if you do still need to, is it buried in control panel or is there a quick way to change it?

It's main purpose would be school, especially OneNote for use with the stylus. Have you messed with OneNote? I am already a big fan of the program and would love to replace paper/pen for note taking in class. I have heard there is some major stylus lag for artists, but is this the case for writing? Is the stylus as quick as if I was using a pen on paper? Memory comes into it here too, how does it perform if I have a bunch of apps open? Does it cause lag with the stylus if I am writing in OneNote, have a large PDF open, a webpage, and Word?

With my first Surface, what I really hated was that there would be two apps for things like Evernote, one for Metro and one for the desktop. I have read MS is trying to fix this, make it so all the apps are universal, have they been successful? Is there still a Metro version for apps that is weaker than the desktop version? Do you find you use your Surface in desktop mode or Metro?

Thanks!
150  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Calculus on: July 06, 2014, 09:16:04 PM

Quote from: Harpua3 on July 06, 2014, 04:51:51 PM

All this talk bout learnin makes me tired.

Ha, try doing it again, school is far more draining at my age than most of the jobs I have had over the years. Plus I don't even get the social element like I would if I was still 20. It's weird being around 20 year olds all day (and not being their supervisor), although everyone has been really cool to me. Just sucks when you are talking to a girl and then you remember you are twice her age! icon_frown I don't envy these kids though, a lot of them are working full time and going to school full time. I can't even imagine doing that.

I am intrigued by your degree Isgrimnur, I had never heard of it. I love computers, but I ruled out CS because of the math. I wonder if I should look more in that area? Although I do quite like accounting, I just don't know how far I am going with it since certification will take quite awhile (if I go that route).
151  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Weekend Playlist -- 7/4/14 on: July 06, 2014, 06:27:08 AM
It appears I am a gamer again for the first time in a long time. Still playing time wasters though. Ace Patrol and Desktop Dungeons mainly tonight. Need to do some serious time with Divinity Original Sin tomorrow or start Might and Magic X. Itching for a game of Civ as well.
152  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Microsoft Surface - Surface Pro 2 unveiled on: July 06, 2014, 06:00:08 AM
So has anyone tried out a Surface Pro 3? Seriously tempted to pick one up since they seemed to have fixed everything that was wrong with the first one. The only thing holding me back is price, the model I want will be $1400 with the keyboard and I am not sure it's worth that much to me (I think that still includes Office). If they have a sale I will probably crack and get one. I believe they are selling quite well so far, so probably won't see a sales anytime soon. Heck I would even take throwing in the keyboard for free.

Anyone get one? Impressions?
153  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (06/30) on: July 06, 2014, 03:13:48 AM
D:OS runs great on an over 3 year old PC as well.

(Disappointing from a Mac standpoint, my Mac has far better specs than my PC, but they limited the detail level  to medium on it.)
154  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Godus on: July 06, 2014, 02:12:56 AM
Anyone else give it a try lately? Just did, it has changed a lot. No more constant clicking. Starting to see some more direction, but still kind of lost as to what is going on even with the tutorial. Still, very glad to see some progress on it.
155  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: World Cup 2014 on: July 05, 2014, 10:51:43 PM
Unfortunately the Dutch pulled it off. I hate them more and more with each game. Stupid RvP and new United manager.

Predictions: Germany 3:1 over Brazil.

Argentina 2:1 over Holland

Germany 1:0 in the final.
156  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: World Cup 2014 on: July 05, 2014, 09:24:17 PM

Quote from: Canuck on July 05, 2014, 09:00:45 PM

Brazil is down their captain and their star player for them and they haven't really impressed the whole tournament so Germany could take them.

I always remember Brazil as having its stars, but also for having a strong team. They weren't about the individual, but the team. That doesn't seem true this year where it was all about Neymar. If Germany get rolling, I think Brazil is going to get beat badly. Of course Germany has been pretty stale themselves.
157  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Calculus on: July 05, 2014, 09:20:34 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on July 05, 2014, 08:20:06 PM

I have a double business degree from a 4-year university in Business Programming and General Business.  Not once did I have to take a calculus class nor have I ever been presented with a working problem where it was required.

I took statistics, business math, accounting, finance, and way too much economics.  But calculus was never required.

That's interesting, you have a programming degree and didn't need calculus? I figured that would be a math heavy degree.

This transfer degree I am getting is a core group of classes that WA universities agreed upon. Any state U will accept it for entry into their business departments. I am not sure why business calc is required, it seems way above anything I would need for accounting, marketing, or anything else.

Everything has been mostly easy so far, except this. I am really stressed out over and feel like a loser for giving up. I decided I have to do this though, I have to get through this and get at least an AA degree. I just turned down a job offer too. icon_neutral
158  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Calculus on: July 05, 2014, 12:11:15 PM

Quote from: Azhag on July 05, 2014, 10:41:54 AM

What exactly did college algebra go over? Did it introduce you to integrals, derivatives, etc or no? If not, you might want to consider pre-calc - there is a reason Algebra 2 and Pre-Calc are two separate classes.

That's part of the problem, I don't really remember what it covered. I mean we did lots of graphs (by hand), factoring, quadratic equation calculations, etc. I really don't remember much of it. I can factor basic equations, I know the difference between various graph types, but I am really limited. What I am unsure of is how much algebra do really I really need to know for calculus? Is it just the basics, or does it refer to it heavily? The business calc class starts off with a couple of days of algebra review but it seems to rely heavily on a graphing calculator which I have never used. I talked to both professors and I get a "you should know this stuff already, if not get a tutor" answer.

Last quarter the kids in my my class that were in the calc class I dropped spent the quarter stressing over it, a few didn't think they were going to pass. The two guys I talked to this quarter were both on their second attempt to pass the class. Heck I even talked to my schools tutoring sections and they even said calculus was generally their weakest area.  I think I am psyching myself out over it at this point.

Edit: and pre calc isn't required. My required classes are college algebra and business calc (or regular calculus). I am more than willing to take pre calc if it's helpful, I just can't seem to get a straight answer from the professors on what I should take.
159  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Calculus on: July 05, 2014, 09:26:16 AM
Posting this here because 1) I have an hour to waste to waste until the start of the Tour de France, and more importantly, 2) I believe most here are quite educated and could possibly provide advice in this area.

I am working on a second AA degree, because my first one is useless. I am currently in a community college and have a couple of quarters left for a business transfer degree (goal is accounting). My problem is that calculus is kicking my ass. I am 26 years out of high school, where I found math really easy but haven't used it much in that time. About 3 years ago I took College Algebra online and got an A. I got that grade because the class was homework based but the book came with a CD where every homework problem was displayed in detailed. The tests I didn't do great, but the homework made up for it. I learned nothing and while I can do basic algebra, my skills are weak.

So fast froward to this year where I have to take Business Calculus. I was taking it last quarter with a full load of classes. I was finding that every night all my time was taken trying to learn calculus and left me little time for my other classes. So I dropped it. I decided to take only Business Calculus this summer so I could put all my time towards it. This time I felt way behind the rest of the class. Everyone seemed to understand what was going on while I was just lost even though I was doing 5-6 hours of homework a night. So I dropped it again. I think I could have powered through it, but getting an A is extremely important.

Between Kahn Academy and Wolfram I am slowly getting there, but I figured I need to start from scratch. What route should I take? Do I retake College Algebra? Will that teach me how to use a graphing calculator that everyone else in my class seems to be quite familiar with? Should I take pre-calculus? GPA is extremely important so I can transfer to a good university for the accounting degree. I have time to drag this out if need be, but would rather not. What is the best route to go to take business calc with an A without killing myself over stress?
160  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC] Civilization: Beyond Earth - Finally an Alpha Centauri successor? on: July 05, 2014, 09:03:39 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on July 05, 2014, 03:44:33 AM

The reports I hear is that's exactly what it is.  It's the same Civ V engine with a new spacey setting.  It's a standalone game. 

The preorder price is set at $50.  I'm sure I can wait for a Steam sale eventually.

That sounds pretty great to me. Still not going to buy it day one more than likely just because I won't have time for it. Steam Christmas sale I will be all over it.
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