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1  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 29, 2014, 08:59:57 PM

Quote from: Exodor on September 29, 2014, 05:25:43 PM

Hopefully by then Apple will again offer a phone for those who don't want to carry around a huge device.

Again? They still do, the 5c and 5s. Really besides NFC, there isn't that much difference between a 6 and 5s. Sure the 6 is faster, but unless you are getting into some hardcore gaming, does it really matter? (And even then, I don't think it makes that much difference with the majority of apps.) Having messed around with a 6, as well as comparing my 6's case (the phone will here Wednesday) with my 5, the 6 really isn't that much bigger. Not enough that it will make any difference in my pocket at least, and I wear skinny jeans.

Apple seems to be looking to offer a variety of phones for people who want different sizes. I bet we see some sort of 5c/s upgrade next year.
2  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 27, 2014, 10:55:03 PM

Quote from: Destructor on September 27, 2014, 06:49:26 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on September 27, 2014, 02:37:59 PM

"Consumer Reports test results find iPhone 6 and 6 Plus not as bendy as believed"

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/09/consumer-reports-tests-iphone-6-bendgate/index.htm

I'm shocked!
Because they, like Apple, tested it at the very MIDDLE of the phone...and not the massive weak point at the volume button.

http://imgur.com/a/FBegH/noscript

Take a look/read - quite informative IMHO as to why the phone breaks down as it does.

Also, BTW, between the three latest iPhones, the force in pounds needed to bend the phones in the middle:

5 - 130
6 - 90
6+ - 70

Yeah I get the phone is bigger but ouch.

Still don't see the big deal. Thin metal and glass to make a light weight device? It's going to be weak to a degree, but why would you ever put your phone in a position where this could happen? If you are that rough with you phones, buy a plastic one that can hold up better (and is cheaper to replace).

Dropping it and shattering the glass is far easier to do, as well as more likely. Bending it ranks about 10th in the  likely ways I could damage my phone. This whole thing is way overblown because it brings page hits. I went to Bloomberg yesterday and their leading story was this (over everything in the news world). Web sites are trying to cash in on 10m+ phones being sold, so they are creating controversy. Just like the OS X shellshock bug, non issue for the majority of users, but it was listed right below Bend-gate on Bloomberg.
3  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC] Wasteland 2 on: September 25, 2014, 12:28:54 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on September 25, 2014, 12:06:37 PM

Quote from: TiLT on September 24, 2014, 08:41:08 PM

Joystiq does award half stars, so it's more nuanced than you think. On the other hand, I agree that Metacritic is a blight on the industry. If it were me making something like that, I'd turn it into something like Rotten Tomatoes. Either you give a game a thumbs up, or you give it a thumbs down. Final score is the percentage of total votes that are thumbs up. The current review systems are garbage anyway, especially since the gaming press can't agree on a single scale. Even a 1-10 scale means different things for each publication, and even between reviewers in the same publication. It's a mess, and games with a niche audience suffer the most for it.

This whole gamersgate issue is making me re-evaluate my reliance on reviews by journalist and sights like metacritic.   
Not to turn this into a Gamersgate thread, but have you read past the hype? I thought the same way, but then did research and found out there was nothing to the original claim.
4  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Cholesterol Blues (Paging Pete Rock) on: September 25, 2014, 12:24:09 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on September 25, 2014, 05:45:49 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on September 25, 2014, 02:36:22 AM

Man, you guys are really making me look forward to the next few years when my 30's turn into my 40's.   frown thumbsdown

Or you can just ignore it. Mine was kind of high when I had it checked 6 or 8 years ago. They wanted me to come back and do a fasting test. Bzzt! I'll pass. I'm 57 and I've already outlived my usefulness anyway.

Not really an option to ignore it. My father didn't take care of himself, he had his first heart attack at 37, a few more over the years, and then multipe strokes. Except none of this stuff killed him, it just made his life worse. The final few years were spent in a wheelchair with dementia. I don't really want to live like that. It's better to watch this stuff now than to go down that road. I didn't give a crap about my health for the last 20 years and it's already starting to catch up with me.
5  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 25, 2014, 01:03:04 AM

Quote from: ravenvii on September 25, 2014, 12:59:19 AM

The iPhone 6+ is the bendiPhone, not the 'regular' iPhone 6.

I know that, but my mother doesn't seem to, she just sees all these "news" articles about it and thinks this is a big concern she needs to worry about. Still, the non plus is made of the same materials and I am sure could bend too, it's just less likely to because it fits in your pocket better. To me, and I would think the majority of people, this is a non-issue.
6  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Cholesterol Blues (Paging Pete Rock) on: September 24, 2014, 11:17:03 PM
I am with you guys. My cholesterol is always high, but since hitting 42 or so it's been non stop medical problems. I am at a point where I have no choice than to quit all the bad stuff. Not just fatty, greasy foods, but sugar and alcohol as well. I would kill to go out for a burger and beer, but my body has already decided those are no longer options for me. I would do anything to be in my 30's again and not have to worry about this stuff. Getting old sucks.
7  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 24, 2014, 11:09:52 PM

Quote from: Crusis on September 24, 2014, 10:02:14 PM

Quote from: Lee on September 20, 2014, 01:17:37 PM

Was just searching for apps, and the top trending app is something along the lines of Verizon data transfer with another for AT&T. People have no clue about back ups and iCloud I guess.  

I just used the AT&T app. It transferred all of my pictures, contacts, and stuff from my Android phone to my new iphone. Sure, I could back all that crap up but why not use this simple utility? It's pretty slick, I got them both on the network. My Note generated a QR code, my iphone read it and started transferring all of my stuff.

That's for switching from Android (or any other phone) to an iPhone, it does the basics. I am referring to upgrading an iPhone from one model to to another. You can use iCloud to back up all your settings and app data so you don't lose anything. Of course there is a line of thought that you shouldn't do a restore, but should start over when you get a new phone so you have a fresh slate.

My mother read on the Huffington Post about Bend-gate and is all concerned about bending her non plus iPhone 6. She thinks she needs a firm case so she can't bend it. I told her to avoid sitting on it and she will be fine. Seems like common sense to me, but I guess it's not. If I am wearing tight jeans with the iPhone 5 in a front pocket, it's very uncomfortable when sitting down, it's pretty obvious it's putting pressure on it. I baby my phones though, it's an expensive computer that I don't want to break.
8  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 20, 2014, 05:05:35 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 20, 2014, 04:26:49 PM

Sales people are there to sell.  They are not technically trained enough to walk most people through anything more complicated than an out of the box setup.  Nor do they get enough practice.  relying on a store sales rep to walk you through a backup is like asking a car salesman why your engine is making a funny noise.

While I sort of agree, product knowledge is the difference from a good salesmen and a bad one. Apple reps aren't always great, but if she would have went there they would have done more to help her. I don't think its too much to ask for a Verizon guy to know how to properly set up a iPhone or Android. She left the store thrilled, telling how the "great" salesman was very helpful and even sold her a $20 screen protector with a lifetime guarantee and insurance (which I told her to cancel). An hour later she wished she never bought the phone. Part of that falls on Apple to better educate people, but I think most users are just clueless.
9  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 20, 2014, 01:17:37 PM
Was just searching for apps, and the top trending app is something along the lines of Verizon data transfer with another for AT&T. People have no clue about back ups and iCloud I guess.  For instance my mother went into her local Verizon yesterday and got a 6. The Verizon guy "transfered everything" for her but then she texts me about how she's having all these problems and she is having to re-download all her apps. I can't figure out if she had her 4s syncing with iCloud and what is recoverable at this point. She wishes she never upgraded now.

I figured it was just my 70 year old mother just not having a clue, but by judging from trending apps searches, it appears it's a common problem. People just don't seem to know they can do back ups and restore it, and even worse is that the store salesmen are equally clueless.
10  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 19, 2014, 05:31:17 PM

Quote from: Blackjack on September 19, 2014, 04:59:54 PM

6 passes my shirt pocket test (see imageo). Barely.  icon_smile Is crazy thin and light -- though i guess that's happening with everything these days. May take some time to get used to the narrow volume buttons (instead of circular), and the sound/ringer on/off switch being thinner. I hope my silicone case arrives soon cause the back definitely looks like it will scratch like crazy. The camera lense protruding a bit somehow looks less pronounced to me in person than when I viewed images of it.

I wish they would stop trying to make it thinner and lighter, I would gladly take a thicker/heavier phone if it had a better battery life.
11  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 19, 2014, 03:45:06 PM
Is that an Ameritrade bookmark? You know there's an app for that, right? smile
12  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC] Wasteland 2 on: September 19, 2014, 03:15:50 PM

Quote from: Blackjack on September 19, 2014, 02:59:15 PM

*Some early reviews (PC Gamer for one) suggest the post Early Access content (California) is buggy and has more problems cropping up than the Early Access region (Arizona) which obviously had a lot more folks kicking the tires.

So folks who REALLY wanna wait until it's "done" might need to wait for some hotfixes. Though by the time you reach the California content (maybe 20-30 hours), maybe they'll have issued some patches by then.  icon_smile

It's Wasteland, I expect to have to start over about 4 times before I figure out what the best combo of characters/skills is optimal before I can really start, maybe it will be patched by the time I decide. smile
13  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 18, 2014, 08:31:46 PM

Quote from: Blackjack on September 18, 2014, 06:57:50 PM

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/09/18/iphone-slow-ios-8-performance-fixes/
*They claim 5 isn't showing issues, but 4 and 4S are having major sluggishness with it. Well, I can probably live with it a for a few days.  icon_smile

I claim the same thing. Tongue

Sure you aren't low on free space or something? I am a heavy user and haven't noticed anything at all, nor have I heard anyone else have problems from the various Apple forums/sites I read. There certainly are bugs and some people got iffy installs though. If you weren't getting a new phone I would say to do a factory reset.

Have you tried a regular reset? (Hold both buttons until you see the Apple symbol.)
14  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 18, 2014, 06:53:12 PM

Quote from: Blackjack on September 18, 2014, 06:42:58 PM

I think I asked this dumb question before  icon_redface -- I haven't moved from one iPhone to another before (the 5 was my first smartphone purchase in fall 2012). I'm on Verizon Wireless.

Beyond activating the iPhone 6 and synching via iTunes to get my 5's data onto it, do I need to do anything else with the iPhone 5 before resetting it to factory condition? I'm planning to send it in to Gazelle for Amazon credit.

Also be sure to turn off "find my iPhone" and delete it from your account. Gazelle should have sent you a list of instructions.
15  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 18, 2014, 06:27:02 PM

Quote from: Blackjack on September 18, 2014, 05:03:51 PM

I went with my work address so I hope to have my 6 by Monday or so.  icon_smile

I installed iOS8 on my 5 yesterday. While I like most of the changes (not sure why it took 7 years to finally have a timer option on the camera  icon_razz), I am experiencing some general sluggishness. Wondering if they optimized it for the 6/6 Plus's processor and didn't spend enough time trying it on other iPhone models?

Haven't noticed anything my iPhone 5 or iPad Air, snappy as usual.

Liking 8 so far, but the biggest changes are in what developers can do with their apps as Apple opens up iOS more for them. Loving 1 Password in Safari (will be better when I get a Touch ID phone), and the little things like being able to add Evernote and OneNote to the share button. Widgets seem rough so far in my limited experience. Some are too big or not updating.
16  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 18, 2014, 04:10:59 AM

Quote from: Destructor on September 18, 2014, 03:46:18 AM

Quote from: Lee on September 17, 2014, 03:53:32 PM

Actually ordered twice now. T-Mobile one will be here Friday, but after reading an article about how bad their network is, even worse than Sprint, I decided to get a Verizon phone again. Verizon is far from perfect, and expensive, but I know it works. Won't have the Verizon phone until October unfortunately.

T-Mobile piggybacks on AT&T's network and it's quite solid (subscriber here since April of '13). It's not Verizon, but nothing else is.

This is the article that convinced me not to try it. It uses AT&T for roaming, but they charge T-Mobile for it, so the user's data speed is throttled.

If there was a way to test out their network without buying I would be willing to try them, but no one I know has T-Mobile. I don't want to risk buying a full price phone even if I can switch to AT&T, because then I end up paying a lot more in the long run. Unfortunately it's easier to just keep giving Verizon money.
17  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 17, 2014, 03:53:32 PM
Actually ordered twice now. T-Mobile one will be here Friday, but after reading an article about how bad their network is, even worse than Sprint, I decided to get a Verizon phone again. Verizon is far from perfect, and expensive, but I know it works. Won't have the Verizon phone until October unfortunately.
18  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Apple Watch on: September 13, 2014, 08:37:00 PM
I'll never understand the phone vs normal watch thing. No matter where I am or what I am doing, it is easier and quicker to look at my watch than at my phone for the time. The only time the phone is more convenient is if I am already using it. Plus a watch looks good unless it's a cheap plastic thing.
19  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 12, 2014, 02:41:36 PM
Ok, ordered outright for a T-Mobile phone, thanks for the info on contracts. Hopefully it works out ok and I can get the $30 plan. Their site is a bit weird, the $30 plan is only listed on the "prepaid" phone page, hopefully it's easy to do once I get it. I haven't used a phone for over 30 minutes in a month in years, so once I am limited to 90 minutes a month I am sure I will get a girlfriend or something and all of sudden it will be a problem (hopefully it's easy to switch plans if I ever need to).

So with a leather case, AppleCare, and 64gb 4.7 space grey phone, I spent around $1000 this morning. Now I will spend the next week stressing about T-Mobile's signal quality where I live and travel. Their map says "Excellent" but I am not sure how trustworthy that is. I guess I can use wifi calling at home if it is an issue. Also I will have to pay Verizon money to cancel my plan about 20 days early.

Anyway, thanks to everyone who suggested T-Mobile and the $30 contract.

Edit: actually if I switch to a new local phone number, I could try T-Mobile and still have Verizon to fall back on if I don't like it. Now I need to figure out if changing my number is worth the hassle or not.

20  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 12, 2014, 05:34:18 AM

Quote from: Destructor on September 12, 2014, 05:04:00 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 12, 2014, 01:58:06 AM

Quote from: Destructor on September 11, 2014, 02:09:59 PM

Get off the contracts! Contracts are the devil! Go to T-Mobile! Tongue
64 GB iPhone 6+:
AT&T - $399
T-Mobile - $849

So not signing a 2-year contract to get the device subsidized, when I've used all my previous devices for three years, will cost me an extra $450 dollars?  I think I'll pass.  Tongue

I pay $30 a month plus tax on T-Mobile for my iPhone 5 (web only plan of 100 minutes, 'unlimited' data, unlimited text, full LTE support). A similar plan would be $80, easily (and it was that -after- discounts on Sprint, the last plan I was on). So you save $50 a month.

Over the usual 2 year contract (24 months), you've saved $1200...assuming you don't break the phone (this plan does not allow insurance) or do something like upgrade in a year (although you'd still save money in the long run).

EDIT: Yes, I realize that I run my phone under a very 'specialized' plan, but it has saved me so much money already. And it'll keep doing so, too.

That plan shows in your link, but not when I actually try to check out. Probably not available in my area. There is the 2gb data for $45 plan, I just don't like the idea of losing data if I go over. I might jump on it, just not sure how good their network is in my area. Reviews are mixed, but then again they are mixed for all 4 companies.

Side note: Not sure t-Mobile has any say if you got AppleCare. They wouldn't know.
21  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Hearthstone on: September 12, 2014, 03:37:47 AM
Nice, I take it you won?
22  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Apple Watch on: September 12, 2014, 03:36:14 AM
Got to say, the various comments and discussion boards I have checked out have been very negative about the watch. I sort of get it, but seeing how no one has used the thing, and they are still working on the OS, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. There is an Ars Technica article comparing interface screen shots to the Moto 360, and people seem to think the Google watch is better already. How do they know?

The more I think about it, the more doubt I will buy one. I don't want to be that nerdy old guy with the Apple Watch. Although I am more open to it as a sports watch, even if I can only use it to access my phone when working out.
23  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 12, 2014, 03:26:06 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 12, 2014, 01:58:06 AM

Quote from: Destructor on September 11, 2014, 02:09:59 PM

Get off the contracts! Contracts are the devil! Go to T-Mobile! Tongue

64 GB iPhone 6+:
AT&T - $399
T-Mobile - $849

So not signing a 2-year contract to get the device subsidized, when I've used all my previous devices for three years, will cost me an extra $450 dollars?  I think I'll pass.  Tongue

I did all the math and depending on your plan, you can save a few dollars with T-Mobile over 2 years with a slightly worse plan to AT&T/Verizon's 2gb data plan. Or you can get a slight better plan and pay a bit more over the same period (like $80 over the time period). T-Mobile would easily be worth it for the cheaper Android phones, but it's not for the more expensive phones.

I am all for not being on contract, but since there are 2 types of cell technologies in the US, you are still very much locked into certain companies. I would love just to buy a phone and switch providers as I wanted to, but that just isn't feasible.
24  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 11, 2014, 02:38:23 PM
Bullwinkle, you probably have multiple contacts in iCloud, which causes problems and you need to fix that first (also can be a problem if you sync with your Mac, but that's a quicker fix). Also make sure you aren't syncing with your Gmail contracts and Apple contacts, there could be repeats. That was my problem so, I stopped syncing with Google.

I am looking to get off Verizon and looked at T-Mobile. Without a contract and comparable plan to Verizon, I would save little to no money for a 64gb iPhone 6 on a similar plan. Sure I am contract free, but so what? If I want to switch carriers, I will probably have to get a new phone. Since I know Verizon works well every where I go, I will probably just stick with them. I would love to get away from them, but the competition isn't cheaper or has weaker networks.  
25  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 11, 2014, 04:58:40 AM
Fair enough, but the users still have to take some responsibility for better security. Phishing, weak passwords and easily figured out security questions were also how it was done. And as I said earlier, it wasn't just iCloud according to what I have read, and having seen the pictures myself (yes I am scum) a good portion of the selfie were not iPhones. Doesn't mean they weren't later uploaded to iCloud, but it's a bit silly that Apple is the only ones taking heat on this.
26  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Apple Watch on: September 10, 2014, 11:24:53 PM

Quote from: rittchard on September 10, 2014, 09:47:53 PM

Here's a really good read from a "watch guy" (as opposed to a gadget/electronics guy I guess):

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/hodinkee-apple-watch-review



Thanks for posting, it was a good read along with a bunch of good pictures of it. One of the ex-Macworld female writers (who was laid off today as Macworld goes under), loved that it was the first smart watch that felt good on her wrist. I love the Moto 360 myself, but she said a 360 was much too big for her wrists, and the other Android watches are even bigger. if I was an Android user, I would probably have jumped at the 360 and then regretted it after reading the horrible reviews.

One thing about bands, they could turn into a huge 3rd party accessory market if the watch does catch on. Don't like the Apple bands, or they are too expensive? I bet you will have tons of options.
27  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 10, 2014, 10:52:28 PM

Quote from: Canuck on September 10, 2014, 10:13:01 PM

The latest icloud data leak would suggest you do! smile
Personally, I don't feel I have any security problems with Android. I've never been affected.

That wasn't an iCloud flaw, but the way the system works and people not being serious about security. Plus, although the press singled out Apple, there was a mix of service that were hacked through brute force, phishing, etc. The average user really needs to take security much more seriously than they do. I turned on two factor for everything, my security questions are not normal answers, separate email account for important accounts like banking, etc.

I don't think security is a huge risk on Android by any means, but there are definitely shady apps out there because their isn't a QA system like Apple has (though some haven't gotten through in the past). It's also almost impossible to install questionable software on iOS as compared to Android.

I am most looking forward to Apple Pay, but that is also my biggest concern, security. It's going to under heavy attack for hacking I bet. Of course regular credit cards already are, so it can't be much worse.
28  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 10, 2014, 08:52:22 PM

Quote from: Canuck on September 10, 2014, 01:47:27 PM

I left Apple after the 3GS so I'm biased but I'm pretty underwhelmed. The new iPhones' screen resolutions have a lower ppi than all of the new Androids (including the Nexus 5 which came out a year ago), they still use only 1GB of RAM and they still have that ridiculous 16GB base option. Seriously, how many years has it been since 16GB was the base? At least the screen is larger.

I don't believe we know the amount of RAM in the 6 do we? They have announced it yet, and a supposed benchmark is the only thing that points to 1GB.

Still for me, having used/owned Android and iOS, its much more than about specs. My current i devices look great, even if they aren't as cutting edge as some of the high end Android devices. Performance on my i devices is amazing. My Surface 3 feels like a hotplate with fans running at full speed to play Hearthstone on it. My iPad Air, gets a little warm running it with much better performance. And as Ecologic said, iOS apps are miles ahead of Android. Since iOS users are more likely to spend money on apps, it has resulted in a much better experience. Plus we don't have all the security risks of Android.
29  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Apple Watch on: September 10, 2014, 08:42:33 PM

Quote from: The Grue on September 10, 2014, 05:26:56 PM

Nothing can make me go back to putting a watch on my wrist.  Nothing!!!!!  I've been unshackled for too long.  I can't go back.  I *won't* go back.

I wear one everyday, don't leave home without one, but I am odd that way. I have zero fashion sense, but I love watches. I almost can't see myself wearing the Apple Watch because I like my normal watches.

One thing people are failing to take into account, is that this is Apple. I have always got the sense that this is an PC/Android type of group of people here on GT, so maybe people here don't see the draw towards Apple products. But this thing will sell with the devotees, and Apple will continue to improve and make the thing better, just like the iPhone and iPad. The Apple community already seems to be very impressed with it, especially the people who played with it at the event (although the software was in a demo mode). Plus it comes with support of third party app makers, that will support it by finding more uses for it.

Also everyone wants to compare it to a regular watch. Think of as a competitor for the sports tracking devices from watches to Fitbits. If it can do that, plus extend it's uses to outside of fitness at the same time while looking decent, there could be a substantial market. Sure it can't replace my GPS watch by itself, yet, but it very well could eventually.
30  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Watch on: September 10, 2014, 06:28:32 AM

Quote from: Canuck on September 10, 2014, 05:58:14 AM

Quote from: Lee on September 10, 2014, 04:37:49 AM

Quote from: Canuck on September 10, 2014, 03:51:18 AM

Quote from: Lee on September 10, 2014, 02:10:18 AM

Quote from: Canuck on September 10, 2014, 01:55:44 AM

They both look like you're wearing a toy watch on your wrist. We need to know more about the Apple watch. They didn't even say what the battery life is like. That tells me it needs a lot more time in the oven. Doesn't look like it can take a standard strap either. That's one reason why I didn't buy the Pebble Steel.

Nope, it's not a standard strap, it has it's own straps, many of them, which you can change without jewelers tools unlike the Android watches (and much nicer than the Android equivalents). Why is this a problem? I own a lot of watches, and most of them I would never swap bands, it would look silly. Battery life they said you need to charge it nightly, not a good sign, and that does worry me, but I am not a heavy user. People complain about the iPhone 5's battery not lasting all day. Mine does, easily. I am looking forward to hearing more, but the press people who were there and got to play with it seemed to like it, but they are Apple fan boys.
Obviously I'm not the target audience but people who are into watches often like to use different watch straps. It's really the only part of a watch you can customize or individualize. A good watch design won't look silly if you change the strap for something else. It should look better!

The band is part of the decision when you buy a watch, not something you swap out (which you can't easily do). People don't buy high end watches and change the band out. If you spend money on a watch it either has a metal band you can't change, or a high end leather band that you wouldn't want to swap out. People change the band on cheap watches when they break, they don't swap bands on high end watches (at least not normal people). The Apple Watch is a cheap watch, but they pretty much covered all the possible bands from metal to rubber. If you want a fancy fashion piece, this isn't the watch for you. And again, the bands are miles ahead of the Android watches.
You've obviously never visited the Watchuseek forums. smile

No, I haven't, but taking a look around, those guys aren't buying expensive new watches and swapping bands either. Fair enough though, point taken.
31  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple Watch on: September 10, 2014, 04:37:49 AM

Quote from: Canuck on September 10, 2014, 03:51:18 AM

Quote from: Lee on September 10, 2014, 02:10:18 AM

Quote from: Canuck on September 10, 2014, 01:55:44 AM

They both look like you're wearing a toy watch on your wrist. We need to know more about the Apple watch. They didn't even say what the battery life is like. That tells me it needs a lot more time in the oven. Doesn't look like it can take a standard strap either. That's one reason why I didn't buy the Pebble Steel.

Nope, it's not a standard strap, it has it's own straps, many of them, which you can change without jewelers tools unlike the Android watches (and much nicer than the Android equivalents). Why is this a problem? I own a lot of watches, and most of them I would never swap bands, it would look silly. Battery life they said you need to charge it nightly, not a good sign, and that does worry me, but I am not a heavy user. People complain about the iPhone 5's battery not lasting all day. Mine does, easily. I am looking forward to hearing more, but the press people who were there and got to play with it seemed to like it, but they are Apple fan boys.
Obviously I'm not the target audience but people who are into watches often like to use different watch straps. It's really the only part of a watch you can customize or individualize. A good watch design won't look silly if you change the strap for something else. It should look better!

The band is part of the decision when you buy a watch, not something you swap out (which you can't easily do). People don't buy high end watches and change the band out. If you spend money on a watch it either has a metal band you can't change, or a high end leather band that you wouldn't want to swap out. People change the band on cheap watches when they break, they don't swap bands on high end watches (at least not normal people). The Apple Watch is a cheap watch, but they pretty much covered all the possible bands from metal to rubber. If you want a fancy fashion piece, this isn't the watch for you. And again, the bands are miles ahead of the Android watches.
32  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 10, 2014, 04:23:30 AM
The 4.7 isn't that much bigger than the iPhone 5. I did the paper cutout thing to be sure.
33  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Apple Watch on: September 10, 2014, 02:10:18 AM

Quote from: Canuck on September 10, 2014, 01:55:44 AM

They both look like you're wearing a toy watch on your wrist. We need to know more about the Apple watch. They didn't even say what the battery life is like. That tells me it needs a lot more time in the oven. Doesn't look like it can take a standard strap either. That's one reason why I didn't buy the Pebble Steel.

Nope, it's not a standard strap, it has it's own straps, many of them, which you can change without jewelers tools unlike the Android watches (and much nicer than the Android equivalents). Why is this a problem? I own a lot of watches, and most of them I would never swap bands, it would look silly. Battery life they said you need to charge it nightly, not a good sign, and that does worry me, but I am not a heavy user. People complain about the iPhone 5's battery not lasting all day. Mine does, easily. I am looking forward to hearing more, but the press people who were there and got to play with it seemed to like it, but they are Apple fan boys.
34  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Hearthstone on: September 10, 2014, 12:32:47 AM

Quote from: Lordnine on September 09, 2014, 11:11:26 PM

You should definitely save your gold for Arena.  I get 2-3 runs a week just from dailies and each run nets me 2 decks on average plus some additional dust or gold.

With the exception of Gelbin and the Naxx cards, all of my epics have been rewards from arena.

Ha, I suck at arena. Six is my best run, but usually I win 2-3.
35  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Apple Watch on: September 10, 2014, 12:29:03 AM

Quote from: Canuck on September 09, 2014, 11:59:23 PM

Very disappointing. This is Apple. It was supposed to revolutionize watches. People have been talking about it since the iPhone came about. This thing is no better than a Samsung Gear.

Seeing the Gear is pretty much panned as a horrible, oversized piece of junk, and this watch tries to do more, albeit not a lot more, I think you are nuts. In looks alone it blows the Gear away. Saw some pictures of the 38mm on a woman's wrist, it looks great, not oversized at all. The Gear can't say that. The Gear looks clunky and cheap even on a man's wrist.

It's still early and hard to say for sure, but to write it off as nothing better than a Gear is an insult to Apple. :-P In looks alone, it is far better.
36  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Apple Watch on: September 09, 2014, 11:45:31 PM
I don't disagree with YK either, but I do see how notification on a watch could be useful. In my old job I spent a good portion of my time in meetings, where I would never have dreamed of taking out my phone to check it. I can see the watch being useful for that, or while driving, especially when I am always going to have my phone with me anyway.

I see the advantages of it as being a sports watch and a pay system. I pay with my iPhone every time I go to Starbucks, which I find very handy. If Applepay becomes an accepted pay system, and secure (which I am worried about) I would love to be able to pay with a flick of my wrist. When working out I strap my phone to my arm and just let it go because interacting with it is too much of a hassle while riding/running/walking. I would love a watch I could use for notifications, phone control, or just to monitor my workout if I am not carrying my phone (I am not sure it works that way though). Also navigation without having to take out my phone? Sounds good to me.
37  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: September 09, 2014, 11:34:31 PM

Quote from: gellar on September 09, 2014, 10:58:14 PM

Yeah I'll get the iPhone 6 when its upgrade time. I'd really like battery life of the 6+, but thats just too fucking big of a phone.

This, and the camera IS. I need to look at them, if I can fit in the 5.5 in a jean pocket comfortably I will get it, but I doubt that is possible.
38  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Hearthstone on: September 09, 2014, 10:05:25 PM

Quote from: Lordnine on September 09, 2014, 09:55:59 PM

I would say itís a little odd but possible if he got really lucky in Arena.
I consider myself a fairly casual player and my epics are:

Vancleef
King Krush
Jaraxxus
Baron Rivendare
Loatheb
Feugen
Stalagg
Cairne Blood Hoof (Gold)
Gelbin (Gold)
Hogger
Maexxna
Gruul (Gold)
KelíThuzad
Ragnaros (Gold)

I've spent a grand total of $5 on the game. (Mostly to get Gelbin)

Interesting, I have already determined that I am far behind everyone else in legendaries (at least by talk here and what I see in game). I almost never play arena though, and I have spent $42 on the game (16 decks and Naxx). I can't imagine getting a gold legendary.
39  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: I'm a former Jehovah's Witness, AMA! on: September 09, 2014, 09:58:40 PM

Quote from: ATB on September 09, 2014, 07:23:00 PM

Quote from: Drazzil on September 09, 2014, 02:21:15 PM

The JW's are sort of the fascists of the Christian faith

JWs are not Christians just as Mormons are not Christians.

Except, they are.
40  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Apple Watch on: September 09, 2014, 09:51:33 PM

Quote from: Teggy on September 09, 2014, 09:30:24 PM

Quote from: Lee on September 09, 2014, 08:12:44 PM

Quote from: Teggy on September 09, 2014, 06:44:34 PM

I came in not expecting to be interested.

I got interested.

Then they announced the price ($349) AND it requires an iPhone.

I got a less interested.

I am curious to your thought process on that. Android watches all require a phone, so requiring a phone was expected (and not sure all features do require it, fitness stuff for instance, but not sure). We knew the watch would be more expensive than the Android versions, and it is, just like the phones. Not outrageously more expensive either.

Not sure if I will preorder, but it looks good. I already wear a Fitbit, so this would be a cool replacement. Price point doesn't seem bad. Biggest fear is that because it's a 1st gen, we will see a huge upgrade in a year. Applepay with the watch could be awesome, and the fitness stuff looks good. Also like the idea of navigation on my watch.

I have no real knowledge of the smart watch space, this was my introduction.  I was not aware that other smart watches also require a phone nearby. In general that makes them a bit less attractive to me. I already have an iPhone, so that's not really an issue, but this basically makes the watch a phone accessory, not really a standalone product. As for price, it costs as much as the phone itself, yet relies on the phone for a lot of functionality.

As I said, I thought the functionality and design were very nice, I just don't know if I need it in my life at that price. I've got a while to read about it and see what other info comes out before release.

Fair enough. I follow the watch and phone reviews quite closely, so maybe I shouldn't assume everyone else does as well. But yes, all the Android watches all require a phone and so far have all been very lacking on features (read the reviews, they are pretty bad). Basically they are all just a way to get messages on your wrist. The Watch isn't much better in that regard, but as I said above it does offer some cool things that might be neat.

For price, its about half the cost of a phone since the carriers subsidize phone costs with a contract. It is expensive for what is basically a toy, but I am an Apple fanboy, and I love tech toys.
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