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1241  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / First night of WoW. Awesome on: December 09, 2004, 09:16:59 PM
Quote from: "Gryndyl"
Flare is a good one for Hunters vs Stealth also. I truly look forward to the day in PVP when a stealthed rogue shows up on my track hidden and I fire off a flare to reveal him and stick a big ol' hunter's mark bobbing above his head. Watching him scurry around in panic as he becomes the focus of attention for every ally in the vicinity...


Unless that rogue is not a stealth-based rogue, which many aren't. Of course then he probably wouldn't be stealthed in the first place either. Rogues are good at running anyways  smile
1242  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Regarding "Stealth" in WoW on: December 09, 2004, 09:12:22 PM
LD, if you're grouped with a rogue, you will always be able to see them. This may be true even if you aren't (and they appear as a "green" or "blue" label character).

However, in PvP, rogues disappear completely when stealthed, provided they aren't detected. Detecting is level- and position-based. You will always be stealthed when in the rear 180 degree vision of an enemy. However, once you are detected, you appear.

A char many levels higher than you will almost always detect you without any real effort. I think a char of equal level will need to be relatively close to see, but I haven't tested it out.

Your stealth ability is based on your level, not skill level in stealth (which makes you move quicker while stealthed). There's a talent, Master of Deception, which slightly increases the effectiveness as well.

Once you are in combat, you can no longer stealth.
1243  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / WoW -- Grouped with Morons on: December 09, 2004, 09:06:05 PM
Most "bind on pickup" items are from boss guys in instances, and any unique items (which are often blue). However, blue items you find in the regular world or those you craft are examples of items that don't bind on pickup, just bind on equip.
1244  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / WoW: it's a WAR out there, man! (Dueling) on: December 09, 2004, 06:42:47 PM
Quote from: "Toe"

Please, do not take my word for it, peruse the Blizzard boards and see the outcry.

Ooop, there's the problem right there. Reading those boards guarantees to lower your IQ by 10 points. I remember seeing all the whining the mages did at the end of OB after they patched them, and now there's relatively little when Blizzard did absolutely nothing to them in the meantime.

Now I think the warriors are a bit underpowered, and Blizzard even admits this to some extent, but but I wouldn't base your opinion on a bunch of hysterical 12 year-olds who can't spell the word "the". Basically I think the class needs a bit of tweaking, not a major overhaul.
1245  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Server Race and Class Statistics on: December 09, 2004, 02:24:48 PM
I played Horde in the beta and am playing Alliance in retail, and I agree that Alliance is a bit easier to do, but not that much. Horde quests might require a bit more running, but I don't think the difficulty is any more personally.

The reason I think there are so many more Alliance is that side is the "good" side, which people tend to pick in computer games and such. You can identify with a human or an elf more than an orc or troll. Most people going in have no idea if Alliance or Horde is "easier", they just go with what they're familiar with.
1246  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / [WoW AAR] They said it couldn't be done... on: December 09, 2004, 02:19:03 PM
I was gonna say, a level 21 and a 22 taking out Van Cleef (he's the last guy)? Even I would say that can't be done. But nice job with the ogre, he's the first "boss" of that dungeon and is no slouch.
1247  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / First night of WoW. Awesome on: December 09, 2004, 02:14:11 PM
I'm pretty sure poison isn't related to herbalim or alchemy at all. However, it is related to thistle tea, which is like insta-energy for rogues.

My rogue is mining/engineering, mostly just for kicks. I like it a lot so far, there's a bunch of neat utility objects to use and lots of explosives of course.
1248  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / How have CG's forums changed since the flood of GG refugees? on: December 08, 2004, 09:47:14 PM
Quote from: "ma"
Can somebody remind me of the other message board started up by GGers?  I'd like to try to keep up with both...

I hope this OK by the mods, but the other board is here:

I personally check in with both of them. This place seems to be more active with gaming and the other with R&P and other stuff. I don't mind it nearly as much as I thought I would.
1249  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Sportsman of the year...Peyton Man... on: December 08, 2004, 09:40:47 PM
But he ain't a good 'ol American boy. Them Swiss are just like the French!
1250  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / What are the must-see movies? on: December 07, 2004, 11:25:35 PM
I just saw Dark City the other day and highly recommend it. It flew totally under the radar, but is a great classic (in the philosophy sense) sci-fi movie. And Jennifer Connelly is in it (yum).
1251  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Help a Devil at work... on: December 07, 2004, 11:16:51 PM
Your favorite player EVER just resigned with the Cubs. He was quoted as saying he was contemplating coming back to the Red Sox just to piss you off, but figured he couldn't walk down the street without everyone saying "Hey Beautiful" at him.

And Todd Walker is about to resign as well.... now let's just give them Millar and the triumverate shall be complete!
1252  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / WoW Lingo: Help! on: December 07, 2004, 06:04:20 PM
Farming - killing mobs in a specific area over and over for experience or items (especially for professions)

Camping - I love complaining about this. Basically an area where there are a lot of players waiting around for things to spawn so they can kill them (usually used for quests). Example: "The quarry is seriously camped right now."
1253  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / WoW.. Best 2 player combo? on: December 03, 2004, 03:20:52 PM
Two mages works nicely, especially if one goes cold and the other fire. One can slow the bad guy with frostbolt while the other nukes with fireball, fire blast, or other spells. Most mobs should never even reach you.
1254  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Lava's a many splendored thing on: December 01, 2004, 07:06:56 PM
The bad luck of the glass flying in your heart is completely removed from the fact he put it on the stove. If you did the same thing, there's a 99.99% chance you would not die from the exploding lava lamp.
1255  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Bypassing the WoW queue on: December 01, 2004, 04:57:12 PM
Quote from: "leo8877"
Or you can go to a server with low/med pop.  :wink:

NEVER! I have to play on the most populated server, and if I can't I'm going to go whine and complain and call people homosexuals on the WoW forums!
1256  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Lava's a many splendored thing on: December 01, 2004, 04:53:05 PM
Quote from: "Rob_Merritt"
Bad luck? Doing something stupid waves the whole bad luck clause.

Still, to have a shard of glass fly at you with the proper size, speed and trajectory, to pierce your breastbone and go straight into your heart? That's pretty unlucky.
1257  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / WoW Server Choice Question on: November 29, 2004, 09:52:45 PM
They have an honor system planned where you get points for PvP wins and such. You can then use those points to buy things or gain prestige for your clan or something along those lines.

As it is right now PvP is just for being able to kill other players.
1258  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Is WoW worth it as it is right now? on: November 29, 2004, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: "depward"
Quote from: "Destructor"
Heck - this game was nearly complete 3 months ago when it was still in closed beta. And it rocked then.

Hmmm . . . I've heard a whole heck of a lot of "Well it's an MMORPG, so it's never REALLY complete" kind of, well, I'll say "excuses" on whether it's "complete" or not.  But I'm really on the fence with this one whether to pick it up or not.  I've been playing FFXI for a year and I love it.  I tried EQII but it just wasn't as fun as the previous game stated.  From a personal point of view, would you recommend it to me to try?

Simply put, yes. WoW, if anything, is fun. It's simple, easy, and fun.
1259  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / WoW- Server and Player lists READ FIRST POST on: November 29, 2004, 04:52:51 PM
Koz,Central,Whisperwind,Alliance,Snubnose,Mage,Gnome,Almost Heroes
1260  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / haha @ WOW on: November 25, 2004, 04:05:11 AM
The guild server was pretty much unplayable, but I've been on Gilneas (EST) the entire night without one bit of lag. And the place is packed too.
1261  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / haha @ WOW on: November 24, 2004, 04:12:46 PM
I played on a CST server last night and had to wait about 7 or 8 minutes in the queue. There was definitely lag but not nearly as bad as the ridiculous lag there was in the Beta. I'd wait maybe 5-10 seconds for a loot sometimes, but that was about the extent of it.

And I don't see why there's such a hubub about Blizzard saying go play on other servers. I'd rather wait 10 minutes in a queue than play on a severely overloaded server and not be able to do anything.

I have a feeling once the holiday weekend is over things will settle down a bit.
1262  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / WOW Buzz. on: November 23, 2004, 08:19:09 PM
I headed to the mall during lunch (and now I remember why I hate malls), checked EB Games and Gamestop and neither had it yet, so I headed over to Best Buy as a last resort and they had a big ol' display case practically untouched, so I snagged one and was on my way relatively painlessly.
1263  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Summary of WoW Guild Info? on: November 23, 2004, 06:32:47 PM
The "Unofficial" Console Gold guild, Almost Heroes, is also playing. I call it unofficial because it's not sanctioned by the CG staff, we just used the boards as a way to organize it. So far I think we've got 15-20 members mostly from the CG and OO boards. ZenGamer is just Rage's site that's hosting our forum at the moment, it's not a separate guild or anything.

You can check out the boards here:

We're aiming to be a casual, fun guild with mature gamers. A lot of us will be playing it quite a bit, but I don't think we're aiming to be a "hardcore" guild or anything like that. Rage can say more if we wants.

We will also be playing Whisperwind, but as Alliance.
1264  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / WoW: The Installation Dance on: November 23, 2004, 06:27:52 PM
I have to admit I noticed that fine feminine figure as well. The whole boobs/waist ratio is a little out of whack though.
1265  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Pirates IGN Review on: November 20, 2004, 05:17:48 AM
Damn you Sid Meier!!! I cannot afford more digital crack!
1266  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Final Pre-Launch WoW Guild Roll Call on: November 19, 2004, 03:24:34 PM
Char: Snubnose, Gnome Mage
Tradeskill: either Mining/Engineering or Enchanting/Tailoring
Talent: either Arcane/Fire or Arcane/Frost ... haven't decided yet, but I'm leaning towards fire
1267  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / CG WoW Guild Roll Call on: November 18, 2004, 08:48:08 PM
Looks like it'll be a gnome and dwarf hunter lovefest. At least we can all start in the same area   :wink:

I'm gonna hold off for a few days though, as to avoid the ridiculous rush in the first day or two.
1268  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / When will WoW's open beta end? on: November 18, 2004, 05:05:20 AM
waaaaaaaarrior waaaaaaaaaarrior

if you do go mage, we should organize so we don't have overlapping professions and talents.
1269  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Does WoW have combat lock like EQ II? on: November 18, 2004, 01:38:57 AM
Yep, it has it. If you start the fight, you get the exp and items no matter who ends up actually killing it.
1270  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / When will WoW's open beta end? on: November 16, 2004, 04:39:31 PM
Yeah, most people seem to think the 18th (Thursday).
1271  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Regarding WoW lag: A ray of hope on: November 16, 2004, 03:01:11 PM
Yeah, besides occasional server downtimes, I've had few issues with lag since Saturday. I did get booted a couple times yesterday which messed up a quest, but otherwise things were very smooth.
1272  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / [NFL] Bills looked good last night! on: November 15, 2004, 09:12:38 PM
I don't think RM9 hangs around on this forum too much.
1273  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / CG WoW Update-and FINAL POLL on: November 14, 2004, 10:31:57 PM
Quote from: "Rage"
Man, I just can't pick a class!!! Argh. I wish I had a better idea of what the guild needed...

I have a high level mage, a mid level warrior, and some teens-rogue, hunter, pally, warlock, etc.

Right now I*want* to play mage the most, but I am disgusted with the recent changes, and for a primarily PvE player (thats me!), the class can be tremendously, mind numblingly boring (fireballx2 or 3, fireblast, nova, repeat).

Following closesly behind the mage is the warrior. My gnome warrior is so much fun to play both from a RP standpoint and just well, because he is a gnome with a big sword!!

Third is probably a paladin-I really like the mix of spells and stuf, but the melee is just not as fun as the warrior.


I'm almost definitely going to be a gnome mage if that helps your decision any. Not saying having two is a bad thing, but don't feel obligated to be a mage.
1274  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / CG WoW Update-and FINAL POLL on: November 14, 2004, 06:59:24 AM
I think it's what you said. There are no coded differences between the two (like there is between PvP and Normal), but it's supposed to be for those who want to RP. Like no pointless banter on general chat and such. The real main question is how tough they're going to enforce it.

I don't really care unless the RP servers are somehow hindered by RP restrictions, and then I'd rather play on Normal.
1275  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / CG WoW Guild Roll Call on: November 14, 2004, 05:45:50 AM
Alright, I've 99% sure I'm going to be a gnome mage at this point. I tried most of the classes out, but I liked that one best. If I had to be something else, I'll go for priest.

Not sure that I'm going to really play until a week or more after release, since I don't want to contend with the incredible lag that may result (especially over Thanksgiving break, hoo boy).
1276  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Regarding WoW lag: A ray of hope on: November 14, 2004, 05:43:36 AM
I got some time in on one of the servers, so I'm happy. Unfortunately the server I have my main char on (Test 11) always seems to be down.
1277  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Regarding WoW lag: A ray of hope on: November 14, 2004, 03:08:59 AM
Woohoo, I can actually log in! Now I can't access a single realm, sweet! There aren't even any eastern or central servers for me.
1278  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Regarding WoW lag: A ray of hope on: November 13, 2004, 10:55:13 PM
Yeah, I haven't been able to connect to anything all day.
1279  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / I'd like a WoW beta key if anyone has one to spare on: November 13, 2004, 06:47:11 PM
Yeah, some of the servers are down (as you notice when it can't pull up any characters), including the one I play on. Bah.
1280  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / The new beta testers' WoW impressions thread! on: November 11, 2004, 04:13:41 PM
Yeah, I figured out the right click method after trying to frantically leave the group when everyone else had.

I'm not surprised there's a slash command for it, but I didn't want to be running around saying random things trying to figure out the command for it.

But thanks for the info, I'm better informed now.
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