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15561  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / R&P Decision on: October 13, 2004, 03:00:36 AM
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I'm posting to disagree with you. GG was a great gaming site (more on that later), but it was R&P/EBG that was the heart of GoneGold.
You and I are going to disagree highly on R&P being the heart of Gone Gold.  I'll accept EBG, but R&P wasn't initiated and/or signed off on by Rich, so we'll agree to disagree.

I didn't say it was ONLY about gaming...I know all about the community, I had a few grand in posts myself remember.  Now, I didn't need dating advice, my wife would have frowned on that, but I can think of many a situation where I asked for GG's help.  I don't suspect that'll be any different here...in time.
15562  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / [R] So the next debate is in Tempe Arizona on: October 13, 2004, 02:53:53 AM
"His teeth were made of wool."
15563  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / [R] So the next debate is in Tempe Arizona on: October 13, 2004, 02:51:27 AM
Yea, in the last 50.
15564  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / [R] So the next debate is in Tempe Arizona on: October 13, 2004, 02:44:26 AM
School me, has anyone other than a Dem or Rep ever pulled more than 5% of the vote?  Its never more than those two in the debates really...I just can't believe that these are my only two viable options. (and don't say Nader...the man doesn't use those new fangled PCs)
15565  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / R&P Decision on: October 13, 2004, 02:42:14 AM
Victoria...read my clarification, try things out and see how it fits.  We saw that the idea for the media forum didn't fit, so we chucked it.  We are trying this out...lets see what happens, k?
15566  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Romance of the Three Kingdoms on: October 13, 2004, 02:40:24 AM
Where is PJ when you need him?

Here are some of his reviews of the most recent ones:
http://www.consolegold.com/Reviews/review/79.html (looks like he forgot the number values! hahah)
http://www.consolegold.com/Reviews/review/128.html

They are definately a strategy gamers game though...no high-pace here.
15567  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / [R] So the next debate is in Tempe Arizona on: October 13, 2004, 02:37:43 AM
I can't even wrap my head around that much money.  Soft money?  Hard money?  Reform?  Which politician do I have to club like a baby seal to get to look at ticket-price reform?
15568  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / The Skinny on Rich (and Gonegold somewhat) SEE 1ST POST EDIT on: October 13, 2004, 02:36:18 AM
Psst.....read the clarification.
15569  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / [R] So the next debate is in Tempe Arizona on: October 13, 2004, 02:33:40 AM
...and I could barely get home through the freeway today.  Apparently they have closed half of the downtown area off in the direction that I have to head home.  :/  

I have serious concerns over one thing though..traffic aside...they are selling tickets for $100,000 for one ticket, $200,000 for two tickets, or $400,000 for the family 8 pack.  I think that regardless of which side you support you have to agree that this doesn't let the common man see their politicians...
15570  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / R&P Decision on: October 13, 2004, 02:30:32 AM
Lets see how this goes...
15571  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / R&P Decision on: October 13, 2004, 02:26:12 AM
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As far as I can gather, Knightshade is doing his best to please the most members (old and new) while sort of flying by the seat of his pants.
To quote the cookie lady with the face gribbits from the Matrix..."Bingo"
15572  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Desktop, what do you have (56k) on: October 13, 2004, 02:13:51 AM
Suggest something for me!  I don't want some damned ubermega desktop replacement as those have only destroyed my system over time.  Just get me a nice wallpaper....something that I can love and not be distracted by.
15573  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / R&P Decision on: October 13, 2004, 02:11:40 AM
I'm asking...do me a personal favor.  Let that thread go.
15574  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Will CG need more forum admins?215 members to 744 in 7 days! on: October 13, 2004, 02:10:44 AM
Is it me or is the Travelling Wilburies the nastiest looking band on the planet?
15575  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Desktop, what do you have (56k) on: October 13, 2004, 02:02:23 AM
(compressed for space...its really 1152x864)

This is really...really...pathetic.  frown

15576  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / R&P Decision on: October 13, 2004, 01:57:22 AM
Well...I have to admit, we are sailing into VERY uncharted water here.  Loren is dead on with my previous stance.  We locked and shot dead on sight any political threads of any sort.  That said, I recognize the needs to discuss current events and given the landscape those can turn political.  Give us some time on this...I wouldn't call it a change in policy as my decision hasn't changed (still no R&P forum, if you are looking for that, you are in the wrong forum) but I imagine we'll have a bit more tolerance than before...again, give us some time.
15577  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / R&P Decision on: October 13, 2004, 01:53:05 AM
Zerth...please don't just repeat your post...please READ the clarification THEN post.  

BTW, I remember you. smile  (and I get the reference fellow RPG'er)
15578  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Any GG forum regulars that have not yet been spotted here? on: October 13, 2004, 01:50:03 AM
Zerth...go read again.
15579  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Good forum title! on: October 13, 2004, 01:48:33 AM
No problem.  Gedd's idea really, so credit to him.
15580  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / R&P Decision on: October 13, 2004, 01:43:26 AM
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But his post was a seriously unwarranted cheap shot. I tried to be PC yesterday in describing why this community isn't for me. The people gravitating here are largely (but certainly not solely) the group that acting like complete ******** when the R&P forum split on GG. That's not any community that I want to be a part of anymore.


Want to hear the most hilarious part?  I have no idea what you are talking about.  I didn't know that there was a big rift until long after it had happened.  All this mass gravitation towards here is largely imagined...

Its not that I'm out of touch, its just that our growth numbers don't show some sort of spike like you describe.
15581  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Just a thought - Revisit the R&P decision thread on: October 13, 2004, 01:17:08 AM
That is all...apparently I shouldn't write on my lunch break as I gave the wrong impression and my all-day meetings (ugh, meetings to PLAN meetings) didn't help as I couldn't clarify until now.
15582  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Will CG need more forum admins?215 members to 744 in 7 days! on: October 13, 2004, 01:15:19 AM
Yes, we will.  I've gotten a ton of names in the last few days and I fully intend to call on a few after the dust settles a bit. smile
15583  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / R&P Decision on: October 13, 2004, 01:12:10 AM
Ok here's the situation. I want to re-clarify our stance. Nobody is censoring anyone here.  A question like "Hey did you vote today?" is fine.  Something like "Did you see that piece on global warming?" is fine.  Something like "Hey, I think Kerry is a baby killing psycho, and only a cock-swilling psycho would vote for him!" is not fine.  Each thread will be evaluated on an individual basis but we are not going to be dedicating a forum to it.  We are not going to be encouraging political discussion here because, as I've explained before, it doesn't fit what we do here.  We are a gaming site.  GONE GOLD was a gaming site.   You wanna talk about the latest debate?  Do so with a bit of caution in the off topic forum and label it CLEARLY with [P] Debate in Tempe.  The second I think we have gotten into some assinine immature non-productive bullshitery I'll lock the thread.
15584  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / R&P Decision on: October 13, 2004, 12:48:13 AM
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It has to do with the fact that CG staff is now insulting the GG mods, which is totally classless.
Ok stop.  Just stop right there.  Mitch made a comment and prefaced it that this was his own commentary.  While I recognize that he is staff, he did make this clear that he he didn't represent the staff in this.  Don't throw that blanket on all of us.
15585  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / R&P Decision on: October 12, 2004, 07:32:39 PM
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Obviously, to you, this is irrelevant, but to people like me, and many others, its a bit of a slap in the face, because I dont think our wishes were REALLY considered, nor do I believe that in the long run, we were really given a chance here.
Obviously you haven't paid too much attention to the many things that we have done to this site to make it better for all invovled.  I care deeply for the community, and I won't have you or anyone else slander that jblank.  The whole reason why I waited this long was to weigh the tons of email and private messages I received.  I looked at the angles and I looked at the costs and benifits.  Don't say that I don't care...I haven't slept more than a few hours in days because I've dedicated it all to this site and the recent transitions.
15586  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / EVERYONE READ PLEASE on: October 12, 2004, 07:16:38 PM
Topics like "Did you vote today" will be fine.  Inflammatory political posts will be evaluated on a post by post basis.  Please see the announcement in Off Topic.
15587  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / R&P Decision on: October 12, 2004, 07:15:02 PM
All,

We promised that we'd have a final decision on the fate of a R&P forum here at ConsoleGold today, and here is our decision for better or worse.

When we first launched our own forums, we had decided against launching our own R&P forum for many reasons (not the least of which was the fact that Gone Gold already had their own forum dedicated for that purpose). With the unfortunate loss of Gone Gold, we wanted to do what we could to help out the community. Fortunately for us, most of the things that we've needed to do to support the GG refugees were already in our long range plans. So most of the things that we've done over the last few days has really just been speeding up our timelines rather than causing us to change our vision.

With that being said, we did listen to all of the requests for an R&P forum here at CG and wanted to give it a lot of careful consideration.

Quite simply, we just don't see it fitting into our long range plans of building a great place for gamers on the web.

This was a very hard decision to make, and I know it will be dissapointing to some of you and for that I apologize. We understand that some of you may leave because of this decision (just as some have said they will stay because of it), but we needed to remain true to our vision. Gone Gold was truly something special - the likes of which would be impossible to ever re-create. Rich was the heart of Gone Gold, and it was his vision and love for the community that really built Gone Gold into the place it was.

Being children of that vision, we obviously loved everything that Rich had done with Gone Gold, and have strived to allow that same heart and his influence affect everything that we do here as well, but we're not Rich and we recognize that there are just some things that could never work here because of that.  

Comments in here please.

*edit*  It's not nice to say comments in here and then make it an announcement where people can't comment. slywink  Sorry.


** Edit ** Apparently I was unclear.  Here is a paste in from later in the conversation -
Ok here's the situation. I want to re-clarify our stance. Nobody is censoring anyone here.  A question like "Hey did you vote today?" is fine.  Something like "Did you see that piece on global warming?" is fine.  Something like "Hey, I think Kerry is a baby killing psycho, and only a cock-swilling psycho would vote for him!" is not fine.  Each thread will be evaluated on an individual basis but we are not going to be dedicating a forum to it.  We are not going to be encouraging political discussion here because, as I've explained before, it doesn't fit what we do here.  We are a gaming site.  GONE GOLD was a gaming site.   You wanna talk about the latest debate?  Do so with a bit of caution in the off topic forum and label it CLEARLY with [P] Debate in Tempe.  The second I think we have gotten into some assinine immature non-productive bullshitery I'll lock the thread.
15588  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / EVERYONE READ PLEASE on: October 12, 2004, 05:15:51 PM
Keep it cool until I get two seconds to make an announcement ok?
15589  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / EVERYONE READ PLEASE on: October 12, 2004, 03:52:14 PM
Expect a post on the R&P decision by COB today.
15590  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / The Skinny on Rich (and Gonegold somewhat) SEE 1ST POST EDIT on: October 12, 2004, 03:40:38 PM
You can bet that when Rich's health permits he will always have a spot for a roll call, release dates, whatever.  I'll see to that.
15591  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Warhammer Online Online again on: October 12, 2004, 03:07:14 PM
According to PC Gamer Warhammer Online seems to be back in development. The game was cannned this June, but is supposedly back on track for a release about 18-20 months from now.  A lot can happen in 18-20 months, so lets not all hold our breath at once....
15592  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Good forum title! on: October 12, 2004, 01:39:12 PM
For anyone who has had their system fail, spent hours in the case, then cut their hand to add insult to injury...this forum title makes a whole lotta sense.
15593  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Most effective PC cooling solution... on: October 12, 2004, 05:05:57 AM
Greetings Mr. Guest.  Sorry bout the mixup, please register to post in the future.  All makey fixey, no more unreg posting. smile
15594  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / The Skinny on Rich (and Gonegold somewhat) SEE 1ST POST EDIT on: October 12, 2004, 04:52:21 AM
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Does this mean I have to get a console now?
Nope! smile
15595  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / EVERYONE READ PLEASE on: October 12, 2004, 04:40:31 AM
19 more posts and you will. smile
15596  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / I'm a fool. And a sucker. on: October 12, 2004, 04:39:35 AM
Stop it....STOP IT!!  Auugh.....with HL2, Halo2, Vampire Bloodlines, and more on the horizon I don't need this early...
15597  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / EVERYONE READ PLEASE on: October 12, 2004, 04:12:45 AM
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I would like a hardware section, and a PC games section
You have both already. smile
15598  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / EVERYONE READ PLEASE on: October 12, 2004, 03:31:26 AM
Ok.  The media forum flooded my box.  I have banished it.  Apparently I was the only one who liked the lime green bowling shirt.
15599  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Poll: EQ2 or WOW on: October 12, 2004, 03:25:01 AM
WoW, all the way.
15600  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / EVERYONE READ PLEASE on: October 12, 2004, 03:23:50 AM
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What about a wiki for that?


Our tools are so far beyond Wiki...man, Eldon does fantastic work.
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