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1961  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: your 2008 sleepers on: November 27, 2008, 05:45:01 PM
Fallout 3 for me. I never played the PC versions and I must have been living under a rock since I didn't know it was coming out in 2008 until about September. I then dismissed it since I was interested in too many other games coming out at the same time. Only after I noticed there were 10+ page threads on three separate gaming forums about this game and that the comments were overwhelmingly positive, did I go out and buy a copy.
1962  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Prison Break - Fall 2008's Best Unwatched show? on: November 25, 2008, 02:18:59 PM
Lame ending last night. They could have easily ended the series with this episode but chose not to. If I didn't know that the show was on a its last legs and there were only a few episodes left I would likely stop watching. But I've come this far, what's another few hours?
1963  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Prison Break - Fall 2008's Best Unwatched show? on: November 20, 2008, 03:02:57 PM

Quote from: rittchard on November 19, 2008, 10:14:34 PM

Quote from: JayDee on November 18, 2008, 05:52:36 PM

How dumb was it to have Michael cut the hole in the glass when he is *this* close to collapsing from an aneuryism (sp?)? Other than that I found the rest of the episode to be quite entertaining. I like caper/heist movies so this was a lower budget TV version.

Yeah I love that he had to do all the "final" work even though he was originally not supposed to even be there.  Not to mention the actor himself has gotten a bit chunky of late, so really they should have had the cop guy (forgot his name) do that last part.  And then after all that he just puts his grimy paws on the unit to set the alarm off, what's up with that?  I guess they are playing it as they wanted to bring the 6th key to them, but still, if they were going that route, why waste time gingerly going through all the other walls?  Blast it all down, set the alarm off, and set the trap!

I have been noticing that he's gained some weight and I was wondering if he was just getting lazy or getting ready for another role.
1964  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: It's October 2008: What's your GOTY so far? on: November 18, 2008, 09:43:23 PM
REVISED:

Fallout 3.
1965  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Prison Break - Fall 2008's Best Unwatched show? on: November 18, 2008, 05:52:36 PM
How dumb was it to have Michael cut the hole in the glass when he is *this* close to collapsing from an aneuryism (sp?)? Other than that I found the rest of the episode to be quite entertaining. I like caper/heist movies so this was a lower budget TV version.
1966  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 18, 2008, 02:14:12 PM
I'm about 15 hours into the game and haven't even touched the main quest, although I'll probably do a bit of it tonight. I'm still only level 5 as I have been out exploring the majority of the time. I completed the Arefu line of quests last night, and then spent over an hour decorating my home with all the cool stuff I found in my travels. My shelf proudly displays a gnome, teddy bear, Nuka Cola truck, and a lunch box. The rest of the shelves are stocked full of plates, glasses and boxes of food. Beer is in the fridge.

Also, I decided that I will not be using the fast travel option at any point in this game. I'm completely roleplaying as if I was actually in the wasteland, which means if a location is on the other side of the map I will only go there when I have other business to attend to that makes me go out that way. I find it's more immersive and makes for more interesting choices when I have to travel everywhere by foot. Is there enough daylight left in the day at 3pm to walk from Megaton to Arefu? When night falls I find the closest shelter and rest up for the night. Even heroic adventurers need their rest!
1967  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Blu-Ray Player Recommendations on: November 17, 2008, 03:33:27 PM
It makes me wonder why widescreen TVs were made 16:9 when most movies don't use this aspect ratio (either 1.85:1 or 2.35:1).
1968  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: GAH! My feet hurt! on: November 17, 2008, 03:24:37 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on November 17, 2008, 03:14:26 PM

just master levitation and float everywhere.


You're a lifesaver. My feet thank you.
1969  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Blu-Ray Player Recommendations on: November 17, 2008, 03:01:04 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on November 17, 2008, 02:48:07 PM

Quote from: JayDee on November 17, 2008, 02:20:10 PM

Wow, I had no idea it was possible to turn a 16:9 movie into full-screen without ruining the aspect ratio and making the picture look "stretched".

A 16:9 movie will fill the screen of an HDTV by default since HDTVs have an aspect ratio of 16:9, or 1.78:1.  Many movies are 2.35:1 (Lord of the Rings, Quantum of Solace) and they will have black bars on an HDTV unless you're fine with ruining the movie by stretching or zooming the picture (don't do this).  Many other movies are 1.85:1 and will have black bars smaller than the 2.35:1 movies.

You're right. I had it backwards. The TV is 16:9 and movies are 2.35:1. Although I don't think I get black bars on my TV for 1.85:1 movies. I'll have to double-check.
1970  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / GAH! My feet hurt! on: November 17, 2008, 02:24:17 PM
This is why I hate buying new dress shoes for work. Takes forever for the leather to break in and crease properly so it doesn't feel like I'm walking in cement. So what if my old shoes leaked water and looked 80 years old. They were comfortable dammit!
1971  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Blu-Ray Player Recommendations on: November 17, 2008, 02:20:10 PM

Quote from: Razgon on November 17, 2008, 02:09:44 PM

Quote from: JayDee on November 17, 2008, 02:06:16 PM

Quote from: Razgon on November 17, 2008, 07:19:08 AM

Can it upscale your DVD's? If you have a HD tv, will it make the movie fill up the entire tv screen, or just 2/3's as so many other players?

those are key selling points for me on my PS3 regarding movies...

bear in mind though, that it DOES make noise (see? not entirely fanboi here ;-) )

Yes, it upscales, but I don't know what you mean by 2/3's of the screen. Do you mean the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen that appear when watching 16:9 movies on DVD?

indeed, my old dvd players makes me crazy with this, but PS3 makes the movies fullscreen through magic, it seems...

Wow, I had no idea it was possible to turn a 16:9 movie into full-screen without ruining the aspect ratio and making the picture look "stretched". I looked into it further and I can't find anything to indicate that this player does this, but the following review (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2326273,00.asp) is comforting. It's third behind the PS3 in terms of benchmarking, but I can live with that to save $150.

"All Blu-ray players are also upconverting DVD players, but the upconverted picture quality depends on the prowess of the video-processing hardware. The S350 offers one of the best upconverted 1080p DVD viewing experiences I've seen; a significant improvement over the S300. The player rendered my selection of classic DVD movies in excellent detail without distracting artifacts such as jagged edges or line flicker. The addition of user-adjustable picture controls, including detailed video noise reduction (NR) settings, helped enhance the player's HQV Benchmark test score. It placed third, behind only the LG BH200 Super Blu and Sony's own PlayStation 3."
1972  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Blu-Ray Player Recommendations on: November 17, 2008, 02:06:16 PM

Quote from: Razgon on November 17, 2008, 07:19:08 AM

Can it upscale your DVD's? If you have a HD tv, will it make the movie fill up the entire tv screen, or just 2/3's as so many other players?

those are key selling points for me on my PS3 regarding movies...

bear in mind though, that it DOES make noise (see? not entirely fanboi here ;-) )

Yes, it upscales, but I don't know what you mean by 2/3's of the screen. Do you mean the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen that appear when watching 16:9 movies on DVD?
1973  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Blu-Ray Player Recommendations on: November 17, 2008, 02:29:53 AM

Quote from: JSL on November 17, 2008, 02:20:36 AM

Quote from: JayDee on November 16, 2008, 09:19:55 PM

My parents wanted to get me a Blu-Ray player for Christmas, so I went to the store to pick one out today. I didn't consider the PS3 because they are much more expensive and I have no interest in playing games on it (I already have a 360). I did want to stick with Sony though since they did invent the tech. I settled on this one, but for $30 less (and that's in CDN $):  http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10109229&catid=25323&logon=&langid=EN

I can hook an ethernet cable up to it so I'm assuming that I would be able to get any firmware updates. Even if not, I don't care, because I just want it to play movies. I don't watch special features.

That is one I have been considering. It seems decent enough as well and I'm not really interested in BD Live so not having it hooked up to the Internet would be fine with me.

I've been reading more about it and you can update the firmware through the ethernet port, which means I can't find a single reason why I would need to get a PS3, other than that it plays games. But paying $150 more ($399 instead of $250) for the option to play games when I already have a console doesn't make much sense to me. I'm happy with my decision.
1974  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Blu-Ray Player Recommendations on: November 16, 2008, 09:19:55 PM
My parents wanted to get me a Blu-Ray player for Christmas, so I went to the store to pick one out today. I didn't consider the PS3 because they are much more expensive and I have no interest in playing games on it (I already have a 360). I did want to stick with Sony though since they did invent the tech. I settled on this one, but for $30 less (and that's in CDN $):  http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10109229&catid=25323&logon=&langid=EN

I can hook an ethernet cable up to it so I'm assuming that I would be able to get any firmware updates. Even if not, I don't care, because I just want it to play movies. I don't watch special features.
1975  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Star Soccer 4 ... on: November 15, 2008, 05:04:17 AM
Wow, that AAR was two years ago. I remember reading that like it was yesterday. Time flies....
1976  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Prison Break - Fall 2008's Best Unwatched show? on: November 13, 2008, 11:57:48 PM
I'm fine with ending the show. I just want a resolution and Fox better air those final episodes!  finger
1977  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 12, 2008, 07:51:39 PM
Great news. Thanks!
1978  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 12, 2008, 05:37:18 PM

Quote from: Destructor on November 12, 2008, 05:32:27 PM

Quote from: JayDee on November 12, 2008, 05:27:51 PM

Feature I wish was included: Ability to put stuff from my inventory onto the tables and shelves in my house, rather than locking them up in the locker. I want to display my gnome proudly!

 saywhat

You can. At least on the PC version. Just right click the item to drop it, and use the Z button to move it around. Exactly how Oblivion worked.

Hopefully the 360 version has this feature as well. I haven't discovered it and I don't see anything in the manual.
1979  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 12, 2008, 05:27:51 PM
Feature I wish was included: Ability to put stuff from my inventory onto the tables and shelves in my house, rather than locking them up in the locker. I want to display my gnome proudly!
1980  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NHL '09 Talk on: November 12, 2008, 02:15:18 PM
This is great news. I'm going to have to jump back into the game now. Actually, as I'm only 40 games into my BAP career, I might just download the new rosters and start fresh with the new patch since I think my stats are gimped due to my teammates inability to score pre-patch (I'm a playmaker and rely on assists).

Of course, I need to find time to play this and Fallout 3 now!  eek
1981  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: November 11, 2008, 06:49:22 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 11, 2008, 06:34:56 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on November 11, 2008, 04:02:33 PM

I've stopped worrying about it.  Lately when I try to go over there I just don't feel the same connection I used to have.  GamingTrend feels more like "home", and while I may read a thread or two over at OO, I feel like I "know" more people here and fit into the community better.  OO just doesn't feel as familiar anymore.  Although I will head over to keep tabs on Zaxxon's football pool and to communicate with Dogstar about fantasy football, but other than that GamingTrend has pretty much become my primary forum.  And that has nothing to do with Knightshade's wife's fondue.   ninja

I think he was looking for a yes or no, Pedro.

Pedro Rock?  Fabulous
1982  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 11, 2008, 05:00:22 PM
The game finally "clicked" with me last night and now I'm totally in love with it. I cleared out the Super Duper Mart which was a great moment in my gaming career. I thought I had the whole thing cleared out but the minute I went into the pharmacy and the Raider used the intercom, it was definitely a creepy moment. Also, sneaking along in complete silence, only to inadvertantly bump into a shopping cart made me jump a bunch of times. Those things are so loud!

I'm already planning to explore the area around the super duper mart tonight. There seems to be a lot of buildings to explore there.
1983  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 11, 2008, 03:11:37 PM
Is there any use for pre-war money other than trading it in for caps? I have a lot of it just sitting around and I don't want to sell it if I can actually use it somewhere. However, I can really use the caps.
1984  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (11/10) on: November 10, 2008, 05:33:04 PM
Why do publishers release all of their best games at the end of the year with everything else? Surely this has a negative effect on sales? I would love to buy Fable II, GoW 2, Farcry 2, and CoD 5, but after buying Fallout 3, RB 2, and NHL 09, I'm tapped out until Christmas. I can't be the only one in this situation.
1985  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 10, 2008, 05:24:23 PM
Is there a way to tell how addicted I am to certain drugs? I was so nervous in Springdale Elementary that I shot up with Jet to get another round of AP for VATS. I got so used to it that when it wore off I shot up again. I ended up using the drug three times in a row while clearing out the school and now I fear I'm addicted but I can't find any information in my Pip-Boy telling me so.
1986  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NHL '09 Talk on: November 10, 2008, 05:17:10 PM

Quote from: kronovan on November 10, 2008, 04:50:12 PM

Quote from: JayDee on November 10, 2008, 04:19:48 PM

But I'm finding BAP mode to be more and more "broken" the more I play it in terms of difficulty, that I find myself less motivated to play a game.

Most of the shortcomings in BAP will be addressed by the patch which is rumored to be out this week.

I will certainly be trying out the game post-patch and if it improves the difficulty inbalance I'll definitely be playing more often.
1987  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NHL '09 Talk on: November 10, 2008, 04:19:48 PM
It's still the best game of hockey out there, but I'm playing it less at this point in the year than I played NHL 08 last year. The main reason is that after playing BAP I have little interest in playing a "regular" game of hockey. BAP is so much more fun. But I'm finding BAP mode to be more and more "broken" the more I play it in terms of difficulty, that I find myself less motivated to play a game.
1988  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NHL '09 Talk on: November 10, 2008, 03:27:11 PM

Quote from: kronovan on November 10, 2008, 12:30:56 AM

I'm playing All Star with default settings. The 1 exception is that I've moved the penalty slider down a notch or 2 for the start of my 2nd season due to an unfair distribution of penalties to me during the playoffs. What I've found in All Star is that if the opponent Goalie and defense have a rating of hot and your offense is rated normal or cold, you're in for 1 frustrating time to score a single goal. If you can manage to score a few amazing or garbage goals early in the game, it often breaks the opponents defensive momentum.

On the opposite end of things, if the opponents offense is rated hot and your goalie is normal or cold while your defence is normal or cold, you can expect at least 2 or more cheap 1-timers from the opponent; usually from the sides of the net. As well, if a hot offense is allowed to cycle the puck for more than 10 seconds without you forcing a turnover, the chance of a cheap 1-timer increases significantly. I've found it possible to win most game regardless, but it's rare that I'm not outshot by at least 5 - 10 goals in a game with an even amount or no penalties. That sort of ratio will sometimes occurs even when my defense is rated hot. I'm just glad I have Luongo in goal as he finishes most games with a save percentile in the mid -to- high 90's and rarely dips below a normal rating.

This is one of the reasons my play-time with this game has been steadily declining. I either destroy the computer on Pro, or get shutout on All-Star. The game is so much fun, but losing 3-0, 4-1, 2-0, 2-0 in four straight games isn't.
1989  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 10, 2008, 03:08:38 PM
Due to the forum-effect here I impulse-bought Fallout 3 this weekend. I never played Fallout 1 or Fallout 2, nor had I ever played Morrowind/Oblivion/etc. So I was going in as a total n00b, not having any clue what to expect.

I'm four hours in and I really like it. My reaction hasn't been as positive as others on this board, but it's probably due to the fact that I've barely scratched the surface in the game.

The opening "tutorial" was very well done, and helped me learn a lot about how the gameplay works. I was actually hoping it would be longer. I was dissapointed by how many doors and objects were locked with a skill level way above me, but I'm willing to guess that I'll be back in Vault 101 before the end of the game. That's the only reason why I can think of soom doors being "Inaccessable" and some doors requiring a lockpick skill of 100.

Once I was outside I was immediately overwhelmed. Where do I go? What do I do? I poked around Springdale for a bit and met the "special services" lady hiding out in the house. Managed to talk her out of a few caps in exchange for me keeping quiet about her location. I haven't checked yet if I can go against my word and squeal on her, but that would be neat if they built that in the game. I would probably save that option for the next playthrough. In this game I'm trying to play as if it were actually me in that situation. Stay out of trouble, help as many people as possible, etc.

There are a few things that bothered me in my first few hours.
- NPC characters are boring. They basically just stand there with no expression on their face spouting off their pre-scripted lines. Nothing reminds me that I'm playing a video game more than clicking through 6 or 7 dialogue tree options so I can trigger the necessary lines of information. There are a couple of interesting characters in Megaton, but for the most part they all blend together.
- Lack of feedback in the outside world. Yes, the world is open-ended, which is great, but I have yet to feel any satisfaction for discovering a location. For example, I cleared out Springdale school...and received nothing interesting for doing so. Sure, it was interesting to find out what the raiders were up to, and sneaking into the tunnels below was creepy, but when I got to the end there was some spiders, and that's it. Basically I spent almost an hour clearing a building and my only reward was some EXP and some ammo. A storyline about someone who went in there and never returned would have made things more interesting, given me a purpose to search every room in great detail. But I guess I haven't fully grasped the aspect of an "open-world" game yet.

But so far I'm really enjoying myself and I can see myself getting more involved as I get more comfortable with the system and the type of game it is. VATS is awesome, easily the best part about the game for me. I sometimes dread combat in RPG's (Baldur's Gate I'm looking at you), but in Fallout 3 I welcome it.

I do have a question about one of the quests in Megaton.
Spoiler for Hiden:
I need an Explosives skill of 25 to interact with the bomb at the centre of town. My current skill is around 18. I have no interest in bumping up my explosives skill as I'm trying to play a gunslinger who uses nothing but pistols and rifles. Is the game forcing me to put skill points in something I would never otherwise use?
1990  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (11/10) on: November 10, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
After impulse-buying Fallout 3 last week, I'm tapping out. My wallet can only take so much punishment.
1991  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: November 08, 2008, 11:27:09 PM
I have a question. My apologies if this is really stupid, but I RTFM and most of this thread and don't see anything that points me in the right direction.

I have never played a Fallout game before and only picked it up because of the overwhelming buzz on this forum. So far I'm loving it, but I'm confused at how combat is supposed to work. For example, I was fighting two guards in the vault. I went into VATS and put a few bullets into one of them. When I ran out of AP I found myself running like a little girl away from them, waiting for my AP to regenerate. Is this the proper way to make use of the VATS system? Launch an offensive and then run away with your tail between your legs until you have more AP to fight back? Or am I doing it wrong?
1992  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official Rock Band DLC News, Impressions, and Comments Thread on: November 07, 2008, 02:45:47 PM
Next week is my most anticipated DLC week since RB was released. Foo Fighters FTW!!!
1993  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Prison Break - Fall 2008's Best Unwatched show? on: November 04, 2008, 02:07:26 PM
ttyl Bellick.

 icon_cry
1994  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New DVD/BD releases 11/4: The 2008 Presidential Election Edition on: November 03, 2008, 08:01:56 PM
Spin City!!! Finally!!!

 drool drool drool
1995  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 24 Season 7 Trailer: "You Will Stay Dead This Time!" on: October 31, 2008, 01:37:19 PM
I have never been so IN for any television show ever!
1996  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Beatles? on: October 31, 2008, 01:23:37 PM
I can't find a link online, but the Toronto Star reported that there will be a Keyboard peripheral available when the game launches in time for Holiday '09.
1997  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official Rock Band DLC News, Impressions, and Comments Thread on: October 22, 2008, 06:49:34 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on October 22, 2008, 06:46:36 PM

Quote from: Destructor on October 22, 2008, 06:33:03 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on October 22, 2008, 06:16:06 PM

I would not surprise me if they are still making money on these songs.  It seems to me that many of these bands would be willing to pay money to EA just to be included in this pack for the exposure.  Just as they pay radio stations for air time.

And maybe they'll actually turn out to be good. I mean, who here had heard of Dragonforce, or even had listened to their music before it showed up as the hardest (optional) song on GH3?

Who said Dragonforce was good?   icon_biggrin

The point is I don't play these games to be marketed too.  I don't want to discover new music in Rock Band.  I want to play with friends and play songs we already know.  These 20 songs do nothing for me.

+1

I may play them once, pass them on guitar and drums, and then they'll sit there on my song list (and on my HD, taking up space) being ignored when my friends come over to play.
1998  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official Rock Band DLC News, Impressions, and Comments Thread on: October 22, 2008, 06:47:06 PM

Quote from: raydude on October 22, 2008, 05:00:59 PM

Quote from: JayDee on October 22, 2008, 02:32:48 PM

Quote from: The Grue on October 22, 2008, 02:15:39 PM

Quote from: raydude on October 22, 2008, 02:09:45 PM

Quote from: JayDee on October 22, 2008, 02:04:16 PM

But to say that RB2 will have over 100 songs, make a huge deal about the 20 free songs (ie: include it on the game box as a "feature"), say initially that they are the songs that couldn't be finished in time for the disc's release

But the 20 songs ARE free. And they weren't in the game in time for release. What part of the advertising isn't true?


Exactly.  Anyone's perception that these would be super quality songs was false.  Harmonix delivered what they said they would.....20 free songs.  Again, I don't know how you read something that says 20 free songs and then go, "OMG!!!  We're getting Led Zeppelin and The Beatles."  (Please note, I know you didn't think these specifically, but I am illustrating how I can make the same illogical leap.)

I understand what you're saying completely, but I think you're misunderstanding the other side of it. Technically these songs aren't "free". If we are to believe HMX, they were supposed to be in the game but weren't finished in time for release. So when I dropped $60 for this game I was, in a way, paying for all 102 songs. So for them to release unkown (I haven't heard them so I can't comment on their quality) is misleading, and disappointing. I essentially payed for 80% of the full setlist and the other 20% has very little interest to me. Was I expecting the Beatles and Led Zeppelin? No, of course not. Was I expecting to recognize at least a handful of those songs. Absolutely.

Ahhh, so if they released the names of the 20 songs and said "You're getting these later" then everything would have been all right?

Sort of. Don't get me wrong, I would have bought the game anyways. It's just that people would have understood right away what they meant by "RB2 WILL HAVE OVER 100 SONGS BY THE FALL!!!!" and there would be no outrage or dissapointment from the fans.  Should we have expected top tier songs? Realistically, based on HMX's track record of shying away from 'big hits' (see: Nirvana pack), probably not. Is it understandable that the community thought they were getting a few recognizable songs out of the 20 given that these were songs that were supposed to be released but were pulled back due to time? I think so.
1999  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official Rock Band DLC News, Impressions, and Comments Thread on: October 22, 2008, 06:42:38 PM

Quote from: The Grue on October 22, 2008, 06:02:37 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 22, 2008, 05:16:04 PM

From the Cons in my review of Rock Band 2:

Quote
Promise of 20 DLC tracks, but no idea when or what why not let us choose?

This makes no sense.  I know it makes sense from a consumer standpoint, but from a business one, it doesn't.  We all know how greedy the RIAA is.  Much easier to get 20 indie tracks and give them for free than to get 20 major label acts and do the same.  It's great in theory to want this, but there was no way in hell it was going to happen.  It's wishful thinking on your parts.

As long as one side considers them free "bonus" tracks and others consider them as part of the package they paid money for, no one is going to agree.
2000  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official Rock Band DLC News, Impressions, and Comments Thread on: October 22, 2008, 02:32:48 PM

Quote from: The Grue on October 22, 2008, 02:15:39 PM

Quote from: raydude on October 22, 2008, 02:09:45 PM

Quote from: JayDee on October 22, 2008, 02:04:16 PM

But to say that RB2 will have over 100 songs, make a huge deal about the 20 free songs (ie: include it on the game box as a "feature"), say initially that they are the songs that couldn't be finished in time for the disc's release

But the 20 songs ARE free. And they weren't in the game in time for release. What part of the advertising isn't true?


Exactly.  Anyone's perception that these would be super quality songs was false.  Harmonix delivered what they said they would.....20 free songs.  Again, I don't know how you read something that says 20 free songs and then go, "OMG!!!  We're getting Led Zeppelin and The Beatles."  (Please note, I know you didn't think these specifically, but I am illustrating how I can make the same illogical leap.)

I understand what you're saying completely, but I think you're misunderstanding the other side of it. Technically these songs aren't "free". If we are to believe HMX, they were supposed to be in the game but weren't finished in time for release. So when I dropped $60 for this game I was, in a way, paying for all 102 songs. So for them to release unkown (I haven't heard them so I can't comment on their quality) is misleading, and disappointing. I essentially payed for 80% of the full setlist and the other 20% has very little interest to me. Was I expecting the Beatles and Led Zeppelin? No, of course not. Was I expecting to recognize at least a handful of those songs. Absolutely.
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