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8481  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Area51 and other government lies on: December 04, 2008, 10:27:11 PM
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When a cleared individual leaves the job or employer for which they were granted access to classified information, they are formally "debriefed" from the program. Debriefing is an administrative process that accomplishes two main goals: it creates a formal record that the individual no longer has access to the classified information for that program; and it reminds the individual of their "lifetime commitment" to protect that information. Typically the individual is asked to sign another non-disclosure agreement (NDA), similar to that which they signed when initially briefed, and this document serves as the formal record. Note that the debriefed individual does not lose their security clearance; they have only surrendered the "need to know" for information related to that particular job.
8482  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Area51 and other government lies on: December 04, 2008, 10:17:32 PM
To get a Top Secret clearance, the government turns your life inside out.

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Minimum investigative scope

Past ten (10) years or to age 18, whichever is less.

Employment

Direct verification through records of all periods of employment within scope but in any event the most recent two (2) years. Personal interviews of two sources (supervisor/coworkers) for each employment of six months or more shall be attempted. In the event that no employment exceeds six months, interviews of supervisor/coworkers shall be attempted. All periods of unemployment in excess of sixty (60) days shall be verified through records and/or sources. All prior federal/military service and type of discharges shall be verified.

References

Four required (at least two of which are developed). To the extent practical, all should have social knowledge of subject and collectively span the entire scope of the investigation.

As appropriate, additional interviews may include cohabitant(s), ex-spouses, and relative(s). Interviews with psychological/medical personnel are to be accomplished as required to resolve issues.

Neighborhood

Interviews with neighbors for last three years if residence exceeds six months. Confirmation of current residence shall be accomplished regardless of length, including review of rental records if necessary. In the event no residence exceeds six months, interview of neighbors should be undertaken.

Credit

Verification of the subject's financial status and credit habits of all locations where subject has resided, been employed, or attended school for six months or more for the last seven (7) years.
...
The investigation may include a NACLC on the candidate’s spouse or cohabitant and any immediate family members who are U.S. citizens other than by birth or who are not U.S. citizens.

It's taken you years to work your way up to qualify for consideration for this clearance.  It has taken years for the investigation to be conducted.  This clearance is tied to every dime you make and probably every dime you will ever make from here on out.  And even with TS clearance, if there were evidence of alien life/craft, you still wouldn't be cleared for it. 

You think someone who's a glory hound and wants to crack this story open and looking for a book deal is going to get through all this?
8483  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Area51 and other government lies on: December 04, 2008, 09:20:57 PM
My father was tied to a project out of Nellis AFB in the 80's.  The first we knew of it was when they declassified its existence of the result and read off his unit's designation on the nightly news.  I know more about that project from the History Channel than he has ever told me.

I know plenty of military personnel from various services and timeframes.  I listen to the stories they tell and respect them enough not to ask questions about things they obviously can not discuss. 
8484  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Area51 and other government lies on: December 04, 2008, 09:06:01 PM
They don't give security clearances to people who are likely to break them.  Even were you so inclined, the threat of imprisonment is very real and the government is more than willing to request, and then demand that whoever had the information passed to them be gagged or face imprisonment as well.  Not to mention being discredited.
8485  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How fast can you type? on: December 04, 2008, 08:18:02 PM
1 mistake
75.64 wpm 

2 mistakes
79.04 wpm

8486  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / December Dallas-area lunch (Cross Posted) on: December 04, 2008, 06:47:58 PM
It's December, which means it's time for me to put together a Dallas-area lunch GTG.  I have organized one for the past two months at OO and been remiss in not including the GT brethren. 

Initial thoughts are Monday, 12/15.  11:30 - 1:30 has been the standard up to this point.  Our last turnout was seven forum members

Urban Spoon has suggested to me that we do Bone Daddy's to change it up from our run of Mexican food.

All details are up for debate here and the other place.
8487  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty: Modern Combat 2 confirmed! on: December 04, 2008, 06:27:26 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on December 04, 2008, 06:18:15 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on December 04, 2008, 05:54:54 PM

I brought up Viet Nam in conversation not 15 minutes ago. 
yeah sorry,i took about 30 minutes to write that...either i am a slow poster or half way through typing it,i got a telephone call and had to go out ...you choose,LOL

Conversation, meaning someone in the next cube here at work.  I hadn't brought it up here when you did.  Actually, I my post was in regard to seeing you had already btought it up when I came in here to do what you already had. 
8488  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty: Modern Combat 2 confirmed! on: December 04, 2008, 05:54:54 PM
I brought up Viet Nam in conversation not 15 minutes ago. 

Let's see one in Korea!  Initial invasion, Pusan perimeter, landing at Inchon, Saber vs. Mig-15, the possibilities have not been explored enough.
8489  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How fast can you type? on: December 04, 2008, 05:47:17 PM
2nd attempt:

2 mistakes
75.02 wpm
8490  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How fast can you type? on: December 04, 2008, 04:53:55 PM
5 mistakes
63.24 wpm

First attempt cold.  I will be revisiting this later...  You people make me feel slow... 
8491  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Help me find a hairstyle (and a stylist) on: December 04, 2008, 04:51:20 PM
I did.  She asked me what I normally had done.  I usually had a #2 on the sides and back, which she stayed with.  I went to the place in the OP.  $19 for the cut which comes with a hot lather neck shave and a shoulder massage with one of those hand massagers.  She got a $5 tip. 
8492  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Help My Cat Sanctuary Win $100K -- (Cross posted at OO) on: December 04, 2008, 03:52:20 PM
Kermit
8493  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty: Modern Combat 2 confirmed! on: December 04, 2008, 03:40:08 AM
I want the game advertised in the url.

guitar-hero-5-new-tony-hawk-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2
8494  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Anyone have a kindle, or can figure out if I can buy kindle books as gifts? on: December 04, 2008, 03:10:42 AM
It uses Sprint's data network.  It has "Basic Web" browsing capabilities.
8495  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Escapist: Zero Punctuation on: December 04, 2008, 03:04:42 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on December 04, 2008, 02:21:31 AM

I followed Happy Dog's link with no problems.
8496  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Help me find a hairstyle (and a stylist) on: December 04, 2008, 03:03:24 AM
It was accidental.  Please don't shun me!   crybaby
8497  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Help me find a hairstyle (and a stylist) on: December 04, 2008, 01:05:18 AM
The results..
8498  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / What is the cost of parenthood? on: December 03, 2008, 10:56:20 PM
With all these threads about spawning children, what are the costs associated with being a parent?  From this article, it appears that the formula option alone could (should) run ~$250 a month. 

So to all of you parents, run the numbers for me, if you would, and how much does your bundle of joy suck out of your accounts every month for necessities.  Keep the Weeboks and Baby Gap out of the equation. slywink
8499  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Help me find a hairstyle (and a stylist) on: December 03, 2008, 10:33:41 PM
Yeah but it's more entertaining this way than a PM "Pete, I need advice"....  biggrin
8500  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Escapist: Zero Punctuation on: December 03, 2008, 10:31:28 PM
Stifling giggles at work...
8501  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Did your kids breastfeed? on: December 03, 2008, 09:59:10 PM
On a related note to kid 3, Shinjin, I had tongue extension issues as a kid.  This led to a speech impediment with the 's' sound coming out of the sides of my mouth.  This took years of speech therapy to correct even after the surgery to clip back my frenulum under my tongue (don't search for this at work, as males have multiple...).
8502  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Help me find a hairstyle (and a stylist) on: December 03, 2008, 09:36:57 PM
Unfortunately, I'm way too lazy emotionally to back up the emo hair.  Angst takes effort.
8503  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Help me find a hairstyle (and a stylist) on: December 03, 2008, 09:15:01 PM
I'm going to try and fake confidence and put myself into the meat market that is the Dallas dating scene.  I need a new hairstyle to go with it.  And I need to convince myself that the Pro-Cuts version isn't going to work. 

My initial idea is to go here.  I need some input from some of the more experienced forum members as to the lay of the land, if I need to keep looking, and what type of style my tree-trunk-like hair would be best.  Too short in the back results in it sticking straight up.  Think fuzzy Alfalfa.

Below is the most recent picture I've got. 
8504  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New Bond movie trailer rules on: December 03, 2008, 09:04:19 PM
Transformers is unwatchable between shaky cam and poor character design. 

*BOOM* Yea...boo...wait, who just blew up?
8505  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Don't want to be too premature but... on: December 03, 2008, 07:51:38 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on December 03, 2008, 07:44:00 PM

Arkon's head may explode but probably not for the intended reason. There is a median age with an even number of kids, it's the mean of the age of the middle two kids. I'm having a bit of a hard time wrapping my head around repeating fraction, I think you mean repeating decimal.  icon_twisted

*Captain Literal wanders off to find other nits to pick*

<----- Pwned...
8506  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: At What Point is it Stealing? on: December 03, 2008, 07:44:12 PM
If you're going to go with milk, at least go with milk worth of The Fabulous One.   Fabulous

Tuscan Whole Milk, 1 Gallon

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Chateau du Lait Blanc, watch out!

One should not be intimidated by Tuscan Whole Milk. Nor should one prejudge, despite the fact that Tuscan is non-vintage and comes in such large containers. Do not be fooled: this is not a jug milk. I always find it important to taste milk using high-quality stemware -- this is milk deserving of something better than a Flintstones plastic tumbler. One should pour just a small dollop and swirl it in the glass -- note the coating and look for clots or discoloration. And the color -- it should be opaque, and very, very white. Now, immerse your nose in the glass and take a whiff. Tuscan transports you instantly to scenic hill towns in central Italy (is that Montepulciano I detect?) --- there is the loamy clay, the green grass of summer days, the towering cypress. And those gentle hints of Italian flowers -- wild orchids, sunflowers, poppies. Then, one takes in the thick liquid and lets it roll across and under the tongue -- what is that? perhaps a hint of a nutty Edam cheese? With Tuscan, you feel the love of every dairyperson involved -- from the somewhat sad and deranged farmhand shovelling steaming cowpies to the bored union milk maiden dreaming of leaving this soul crushing life behind for a job waiting tables for obnoxious American tourists in Siena. But not too fast -- sip gently, slowly, or one is in danger of not only missing the subtleties of the milk's texture and its terroir, but -- if chilled too long -- also of giving oneself a blinding ice cream headache. Nay, savor the goodness that only dairymen and dairywomen working at the apex of their craft can deliver. Tuscan is best drunk young -- no, no, don't cellar this gem -- I guarantee you'll be sorry if you do. I recommend pairing with freshly baked macadamia nut scones. Milk Expectorator gives this one a 92.
8507  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Anyone have a kindle, or can figure out if I can buy kindle books as gifts? on: December 03, 2008, 07:38:56 PM
You nailed it.
8508  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: At What Point is it Stealing? on: December 03, 2008, 07:20:57 PM

Quote from: hepcat on December 03, 2008, 06:19:06 PM

P.S.  When did milk replace the gold standard around here?

Would you prefer fresh whole rabbit? Or maybe Uranium ore?
8509  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: CoD:WaW on: December 03, 2008, 07:15:17 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on December 03, 2008, 04:11:58 PM

Hardon Smasher

ninja
8510  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: At What Point is it Stealing? on: December 03, 2008, 06:58:19 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on December 03, 2008, 05:49:38 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on December 03, 2008, 05:44:18 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on December 03, 2008, 05:34:34 PM

Quote from: Daehawk on December 03, 2008, 05:28:45 PM

I would keep it and say nothing. Going back and telling them about it could get the clerk fired.
Going back to the store might also land you in the middle of a gang war. What if's are irrelevant.
'What if's are not irrelevant.  It's called Proximate cause or foreseeability.

Well then, why not say "If I return the game, maybe they'll give me a reward and I'll be a hero for the community and possibly get an endorsement deal' to justify going rather than finding an excuse not to return?

When I start a softball team, you get to play left field.  You already live out there.

There's nothing in your statement that remotely ties into (reasonable) foreseeability.  Tie that in with the eggshell skull rule, and returning the game could result in your being legally responsible for the agent getting fired, even if they were on a final warning for something else.  

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The case of Smith v. Leach Brain & Co., [1962] 2 QB 405, illustrated this rule. An employee in a factory was splashed with molten metal. The metal burned him on his lip, which happened to be premalignant tissue. He developed cancer and died. The defence argued that while the burn was foreseeable, the cancer was not. However, the judges dismissed this, holding that as long as the initial injury was foreseeable, the defendant was liable for all the harm.
8511  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Don't want to be too premature but... on: December 03, 2008, 06:51:14 PM
But with an even number of kids, there is no median age.  With an odd number, there can sometimes be a repeating fraction for the mean age.

*sits back to watch Arkon's head a-splode.*
8512  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: CoD:WaW on: December 03, 2008, 05:53:31 PM
Which led to the miner getting 4 kills immediately after you took that betty out for him.  Truly a legendary moment.
8513  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Don't want to be too premature but... on: December 03, 2008, 05:48:21 PM
Well thank goodness two people dropped out of my RoboRally game.  I shudder to think what would have happened if 7 people were forced to play it... Roll Eyes
8514  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: At What Point is it Stealing? on: December 03, 2008, 05:44:18 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on December 03, 2008, 05:34:34 PM

Quote from: Daehawk on December 03, 2008, 05:28:45 PM

I would keep it and say nothing. Going back and telling them about it could get the clerk fired.
Going back to the store might also land you in the middle of a gang war. What if's are irrelevant.
'What if's are not irrelevant.  It's called Proximate cause or foreseeability.
8515  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Don't want to be too premature but... on: December 03, 2008, 05:35:03 PM
What's with the odd number concept?  I am not familiar with this one. 
8516  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Left 4 Dead Impressions on: December 03, 2008, 04:31:50 PM
You hockey fans need to get cracking.  You let FIFA make the top 10.  I'm very disappointed. 

8517  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Don't want to be too premature but... on: December 03, 2008, 04:29:25 PM
Congratulations!

My ex had her two (before me, thank goodness) 50 weeks apart.  They are the same age for two weeks every February.  Drives the older one nuts.
8518  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty World at War (360) impressions on: December 03, 2008, 05:08:01 AM
I was able to drop tanks with a sticky and one satchel to the back of the tank tonight on two separate occasions in Hardcore with Fireworks.
8519  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 119,943 Miles Flown in 2008 - A retrospective on: December 03, 2008, 05:05:25 AM

Quote from: Dreamshadow on December 03, 2008, 12:26:51 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on December 02, 2008, 04:52:37 PM

If you have time in Dallas, there's more than a few of us around. 

Agreed.  I may live in Ft. Worth, but I'd love to meet some of you all!

What's your availability to do lunches in North Dallas during the work week?
8520  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL Week 14 on: December 03, 2008, 05:04:04 AM

Quote from: Moliere on December 03, 2008, 03:57:27 AM

Good news! The Cowboys are giving Pacman Jones another chance, because you know, he deserves it. This time he promises to behave.   icon_wink
I look forward to him and Tank Johnson welcoming Michael Vick and Plaxico Burress to the Jerry Jones' Cowboys Home for Wayward Football Players.
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