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81  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What skills will be obsolete in 50 years? on: March 23, 2015, 10:33:34 PM

Quote from: stessier on March 18, 2015, 01:40:52 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on February 24, 2015, 11:32:44 PM

Working a necessity for survival. Wage slavery will no longer be tenable when robots are doing virtually all manual labor and AIs can do much of what we consider skilled labor. I don't know what will replace it, but the way economies are organized will have to change radically as workforce participation keeps dropping in fits and starts. People will work at creative endeavors if they choose to, for self-fulfillment and to enrich themselves beyond a basic income.

That is not happening in 50 years.  Automating jobs is expensive and difficult and labor is quite cheap in many areas of the world.

This fellow disagrees with you:

University of Oxford Associate Professor in machine learning Michael Osborne has examined the characteristics of 702 occupations in the US, predicting 47 per cent will be overtaken by computers in the next decade or two.

Those most at-risk jobs are in accommodation and food services (87 per cent of workers at high risk of being replaced), transportation and warehousing (75 per cent) and real estate (67 per cent).

...yes we may see new forms of work generated but it's not  clear that the kind of people who are put out of work, which I said ought to be those at the low-skilled end of the spectrum, are necessarily going to be those that move into those new forms of work."

Note that his predicted timeframe is 20 years, not 50.
82  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Doctor Who: the original series on: March 21, 2015, 02:45:57 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 20, 2015, 04:19:34 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on March 20, 2015, 03:56:46 PM

I used to watch the old Dr Who with my dad all the time as a kid, and of course Tom Baker was the favorite of both of us.

I tried to watch one of the new Who's a few years ago and just really couldn't take it.  It has the problem of being a modern low budget sci fi show, which just makes everything look like terrible digital effects.  People say it has the same feel, but to me it was totally different and the worse for it.

When did you see it?  Their budget has increased pretty significantly as the show has become more and more popular.  I haven't heard anyone make that complaint before, actually.

The episode with the fat blob critters was a low point, even if they were deliberately cheesy. Sometimes Dr Who reminds you that it's a family show at heart.
83  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This is my thread on: March 20, 2015, 11:06:02 PM

Quote from: hepcat on March 20, 2015, 03:44:24 PM

heh. How had I never heard that before?
84  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This is my thread on: March 19, 2015, 05:31:25 PM
85  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / This is my thread on: March 19, 2015, 05:29:23 AM
There are others that tried to be like this and failed. Fortunately for all of us that's finally over. This is the Real McCoy.
86  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Doctor Who: the original series on: March 19, 2015, 05:23:25 AM
The original series episodes are slow going because they were aired in 1/2-hour bursts. What we'd consider an "episode" typically ran for 2.5 hours and nearly half of that time recaps the previous segments and sets up for the next. When you string them together story progress is really slow. Binge-watching wasn't a thing then, and it shows.

I slogged through the seasons leading up to Tom Baker. That's when it really grabbed me, and he's the Doctor by whom all others are measured.  
87  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: March 19, 2015, 01:35:35 AM
Nobody thinks that Michone's katana is going to stay on that wall for long.  icon_lol
88  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Grills? What say you GT? on: March 19, 2015, 01:31:52 AM
I'm too lazy to track it down, but a few years ago when I was looking into covers for my Weber I found a lively discussion about whether they are beneficial or harmful. Beneficial = duh; harmful = they promote rust by turning evaporation into condensation. Ultimately I decided that keeping bird shit and tree sap away was more important than worrying about the water cycle.
89  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: March 19, 2015, 01:26:30 AM
I don't know from rules...I just want the beatings to stop.

It looks like we're in for another long OOutage, though, so maybe we had better take over. Beatings be damned. (Can I say "damned" on the internet?)
90  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: March 18, 2015, 07:49:24 PM
When the priest walked on stage I said "Good lord, is that guy still alive? If the writers need to kill another black dude..." And then Noah. Life just ain't fair.
91  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: March 18, 2015, 02:23:22 AM
Hope ol' Fishy's vacation isn't too long.

Did anybody try turning if off and back on again? Where's that Rip Ripperstein fellow? He knows how to do that.
92  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Grills? What say you GT? on: March 18, 2015, 12:38:22 AM
My Weber Genesis is way over your price limit but worth the price. Still going strong after nearly 10 years. I replaced one of the flavorizer bars last year, otherwise no maintenance beyond an annual cleaning.
93  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Who is your cell provider? on: March 18, 2015, 12:35:51 AM
Verizon, because they convinced my wife years ago that they have the best coverage and because inertia.

$40 per device + $30 for 2 GB data, or $40 for 3 GB, etc. Unlimited minutes and texts. The data prices just went down by $10 last month. Existing customers have to "choose a new plan" to get the lower rates. She also gets a small discount through her employer, so our final bill is $104 per month. I suppose I'm content with it, having nothing to compare it to.
94  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Apple] It's about time... on: March 14, 2015, 03:05:33 AM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 13, 2015, 06:28:29 PM

I'm just a pseudo Apple fanboy, I don't drool over every Apple announcement and upgrade everything yearly, but I am fairly well equipped with a suite of iStuff.

I could see myself eventually being interested in a smart watch of some sort, but this first gen Apple one is too expensive and too ugly for me.  Someone poke me when they have a cheaper, thinner one with a circular face and better features and battery life.

I had (have) an iPod Touch that I won in a raffle. Liked it well enough except for iTunes. That's the extent of my experience with Apple -- good hardware, shitty software.

Oh wait: I was in charge of the conversion of Caesar II for the iMac back in the late '90s. I had to learn Apple's OS for that. Hated the missing floppy drive and the one-button mouse (how the hell do you port a PC game with no right clicking?), but Apple's refusal to use virtual memory was the worst. That experience poisoned my opinion of Apple forever more. Plus my sister-in-law's a huge Apple fan and I don't like her.
I already have a watch.

Yeah, not the demographic here.  icon_lol
95  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Con Man - Alan Tudyk and Nathan Filiion on: March 14, 2015, 02:49:11 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 13, 2015, 10:12:22 PM

Um, we're also forgetting a key ingredient.  Whedon has been pretty busy himself, what with Much Ado About Nothing and other films.

I do like how Whedon keeps tapping the same stable of actors, some of whom are going to be involved in this project. Riki "Garfunkle" Lindhome, Alexis Denisof, Amy Acker, Tom Lenk, and Nathan Fillion were all in Much Ado, and all of them are Buffy alumni. Felicia Day had some walk-on parts in Buffy. There are other links and crossovers too numerous to mention. I'll be surprised if we don't see some cameos in this series.
96  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Old member, coming back after almost 4 years of absence =) on: March 03, 2015, 01:14:55 PM
I think I'm just going to be offended now and get it out of the way.
97  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What the Hell Color is This Dress? on: February 28, 2015, 04:00:33 AM
Looks like I'm the only "Other" vote. I see light blue and gold. I can be persuaded that the light blue is white in shadow, though, so if I have to pick a category that puts me in the white/gold camp.

I can't see how that yellow-brown color can look black to anyone in any light.
98  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Retail cashier preference: robot or buddy? on: February 28, 2015, 01:12:52 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on February 27, 2015, 04:46:36 PM

Quote from: raydude on February 27, 2015, 01:08:30 PM

I've found that it's frequently not the cashier who holds up the line, it's the customer. Particularly if they're paying with cash or a check. It's like, they know they're going to pay with a check so can't they just open the checkbook while waiting and fill out the stuff they know in advance? Like the date and the store's name? Or, if they know they'll be paying with cash they can at least estimate to to the nearest twenty and get that money ready?

Yeah, this definitely happens as well.  It is probably ageist of me to say it, but it usually seems to be older people that this applies to.  They seem to be the most likely to still use checks and least likely to be aware of their impact on other people. 

We're not in any hurry. We have all day and nothing else to do.
99  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What skills will be obsolete in 50 years? on: February 27, 2015, 04:16:42 AM

Quote from: YellowKing on February 27, 2015, 01:32:11 AM

I think people are only afraid of self-driving cars because we've always been in control and can't imagine a state where we are not. People were also terrified of elevators when they were first invented (for many of the same reasons), and yet now we go up and down them every day at heights that would kill us instantly if they failed.

I worked in a building that still employed elevator operators in the 1990s.
100  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What skills will be obsolete in 50 years? on: February 27, 2015, 04:14:08 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on February 26, 2015, 04:51:02 AM

When they take the gloves off of the Turing test that they hold every year, I'll be worried. I might not be able to beat Watson at Jeopardy, but I'm pretty sure I'm a better dinner companion at least 60% of the time.

Neuromorphic chips came as news to me.

101  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What skills will be obsolete in 50 years? on: February 26, 2015, 02:46:40 AM
A smaller industry of humans will still find work in high-level (OS-type) programming. It's easy to foresee learning AIs writing their own code for routine applications, similar to the way our brains program themselves by forming memories and associations. This will be evident in the next 5-10 years, never mind 50 years. By then we will be watched over by machines of loving grace. Or Skynet. Pretty sure it will be one or the other.
102  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What skills will be obsolete in 50 years? on: February 25, 2015, 11:48:15 PM
Humans will still have value for creative skills and imagination. I don't foresee AI developing those anytime soon. They will displace us at analytical and logical thinking.
103  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Retail cashier preference: robot or buddy? on: February 25, 2015, 11:43:18 PM
Depends on how cute and female she is.
104  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Agency in your Dreams? on: February 25, 2015, 02:55:46 AM
I have particular recurring dreams/nightmares. Sometimes I'll realize "ok, this is the tornado dream (or the runaway car dream, or the flying dream, or...), got it" and then I can take some control over its direction or at least enjoy it as entertainment. Other times my subconscious fights back and convinces me that "no, you're not dreaming -- it's real this time," whereupon it becomes even scarier than usual. It's like my subconscious resents my consciousness horning in on its territory. I wonder if that means that dreams can't accomplish whatever mental mojo they do if the conscious mind gets involved. Or maybe I'm just schizophrenic.
105  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What skills will be obsolete in 50 years? on: February 24, 2015, 11:32:44 PM
Working a necessity for survival. Wage slavery will no longer be tenable when robots are doing virtually all manual labor and AIs can do much of what we consider skilled labor. I don't know what will replace it, but the way economies are organized will have to change radically as workforce participation keeps dropping in fits and starts. People will work at creative endeavors if they choose to, for self-fulfillment and to enrich themselves beyond a basic income.

I doubt that nation-states will be the dominant political entities. They'll still exist as convenient geographical designations, and they'll continue to be the source of military power, but culture will be increasingly global and nations will be subordinate to transnational corporations and political entities -- not a centralized "world government" though.

Both of these shifts are already under way and I only see them intensifying over the next 50 years.

106  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: It's been a while -- (Re)Introducing the Gaming Trend Team! on: February 21, 2015, 12:15:12 AM
I'm Ken. I come here to complain.
107  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] The Walking Dead Season 5 on: February 18, 2015, 04:02:59 AM
I'll go along with that. Creepy clean-cut guy is obviously going to be a problem. Clean-cut guys always are. I hope he doesn't derail the journey-to-DC arc because I like TWD best when they're on the road.
108  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Man From UNCLE from Guy Ritchie on: February 12, 2015, 06:54:12 AM
I was a little too young to care about the original series and I'm bored by spycraft and fisticuffs and car chases and explosions and all of that silliness. Cold War nostalgia might merit a new look, though. I miss the USSR.
109  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] Jupiter Ascending on: February 10, 2015, 12:41:04 AM
I doubt that this one will even make my netflix queue. What I've read about it sounds dreadful.
110  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: TurboTax or an Accountant? on: February 05, 2015, 02:37:06 AM
Pretty much the same story as dfs. If you have a lot of 1099 income you need to know which deductions can preferentially whittle that away and reduce your self-employment tax. The home office rules alone are tricky and getting that wrong is an audit flag. Our finished return runs 30-40 pages with all the schedules and worksheets. I need a CPA to do my business returns anyway, so we hire the same guy to do our personal returns.

If you only have w-2 income you probably don't need an accountant.

Last year my wife only had two 1099s so there's not a lot of self-employment income to write down. If the same is true this year I'm going to go back to doing it myself. We're nearing the point where the standard deduction is almost the same as itemizing.
111  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin's Back on: January 25, 2015, 02:42:20 AM
I dunno, she imparts gravitas to even their third-string wannabes by lowering the baseline.
112  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 12 Monkeys remake for TV on: January 18, 2015, 05:36:54 AM
I decided not to record it after reading a withering review. I liked the movie...let's just leave it at that.
113  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Relationship Help on: January 11, 2015, 07:50:50 PM
In light of all that new information I'm inclined to agree with you. Short of deprogramming there isn't ever going to be a connection between you again...the barriers are firm and institutionalized. I don't think involuntary deprogramming is a thing for adults, or that it would work out well if it were.

I wonder if the courts consider JW to be a cult. If so that's a big thing in your favor when it comes to custody. 
114  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: "Best" of CES 2015 on: January 09, 2015, 03:18:40 AM

Quote from: YellowKing on January 08, 2015, 04:52:01 PM

I believe this is one of the rare instances in which the technology needs to be forced on consumers.

So if I'm forced to adopt the solution, the problem will follow? Got it.

As soon as the things get the internet they'll want social networks. Where do I invest in Thingbook?
115  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: "Best" of CES 2015 on: January 08, 2015, 03:00:16 AM
Maybe the "Internet of Things" really is the Next Big Thing, but it strikes me as a solution in search of a problem. I'd worry about my toaster and my refrigerator conspiring against me. Maybe I'd let my guard down if they went back to calling it the "smart house."
116  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: So I quit my job to play music... on: January 07, 2015, 06:47:09 AM
I like their/your sound a lot. I hate music players without volume controls a lot, too.
117  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Downton Abbey on: January 06, 2015, 02:11:39 AM
I loved the first season, tolerated the second, and dropped out after the third. My wife's still heavily into it though. From her synopsis it sounds like the 5th season has degenerated into self-parody.
118  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: My favorite cat in the world is dead on: January 01, 2015, 11:57:33 PM

Quote from: Drazzil on January 01, 2015, 08:36:08 AM

Still have four, but none could compare to Princess.

Edit for: Go to the shelter and adopt an older cat.

Cats, like cars seem to depreciate quite quickly once they are no longer brand new, you would be doing an adult cat a favor, or you could see if you could make provisions for the cat if something should happen to you guys.

That option has been floated. We're both reluctant to miss out on the fun of kittenhood and the early bonding, but making a shorter commitment has some advantages.
119  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Relationship Help on: January 01, 2015, 11:53:59 PM
Geez, man, that's a hard question. In the 35 years I've been with my wife, I've fallen out of and back into love a couple of times. 31 years ago I got up in front of all of my friends and family and solemnly vowed to stick with her for life, no matter what. I still take that seriously so I have a high threshold for divorce -- basically, "I changed my mind" doesn't cut it. Absent abuse or infidelity we are yoked for life. In my experience, if you wait out the bad times, better times eventually return. But she and I have always been friends and still are.

You say that you never loved your wife to begin with, so that's a different situation. And we never had children, so that's another different situation. I don't know what advice to give you except that staying together for the sake of the children usually doesn't make anybody happy. Shared custody seems to work out pretty well for most people...but I don't have any personal experience with that.

Do you like your wife at all? Might you be able to love her with some effort? Does she like/love you? "Get counseling" is an obvious answer if the underlying emotional connection is there.
120  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: My favorite cat in the world is dead on: January 01, 2015, 03:14:11 AM

Quote from: Blackjack on December 31, 2014, 03:41:17 PM

Every pet owner's different though. Some friends who lost a pet were so devastated, they just didn't want to own one again. Others wanted to run out and adopt another pet the next week.

My wife and I are already grappling with this. Our cat's still in good health but he's 16.5 years old, so we're steeling ourselves.

I just do the math. If Iggy dies tomorrow and we get another cat the next day, we will be 74 years old if it also lives 16 years. If he lives a little longer and we wait the usual mourning period, we might be dealing with another elderly cat when we're 76 or older. I don't think I want that burden if I'm so unfortunate as to live that long, and I don't want the restrictions on our tentative retirement plans in the interim. Basically, I feel like 58 is too old to commit to another cat.

My wife, OTOH, doesn't like the thought of potentially living another 20 years without a cat.

We are sympathetic to each other's viewpoints and I won't know how this turns out until after Iggy dies. I suspect that either a cat will choose us, or one won't. Or maybe we'll just get a fucking gerbil.  icon_biggrin
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