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81  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbone LAUNCH DAY!!!! Which system are you getting? on: November 22, 2013, 10:37:20 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 22, 2013, 10:33:03 PM



I think I've figured out that when you install a game, it factors into the % left to install any patches that are needed for it.   So you see 1%, but what you are really not seeing is the patch download that is taking place.   

Does that make sense?   Dead Rising stayed at 1% for a while, but then once it got past 5% it not only said it could start playing but also it sped up big time.

Yeah, I get what you are saying and that is probably correct. It kind of goes back to what I was saying though about the UI being rather confusing. If there is any big knock on it, it's that nothing is really explained all that well and there is no way to really see what is going on "behind the scenes", like you could on the 360. I think this will be corrected in time, but right now its kind of annoying me.
82  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbone LAUNCH DAY!!!! Which system are you getting? on: November 22, 2013, 10:25:10 PM

Quote from: TiLT on November 22, 2013, 09:53:42 PM

How are install times on the Xbox One? There's been some debate over this at NeoGAF today, with some people claiming install times for Ryse well over an hour (seemingly partly because of mandatory software updates that are downloaded before the installation begins) before they were even allowed to start the game, while others claim much shorter install times. I was expecting it to work similarly to the PS4, which I've heard is very fast at least. Hetz, msduncan, you've tried both systems, right?

I just put in Ryse and there is a 1158mb patch that needs to be downloaded for it. I don't know if it downloads that first or installs the game first, I'm honestly not sure how to tell....all I know is that it is installing now. It's at 1% after about 3 minutes.....

It did take quite awhile for Dead Rising 3 to install, but I didn't time it. If I had to guess, I believe it took around 20 minutes. The PS4 seems much faster in this area.

*edit* There was a patch for Dead Rising 3 as well, I believe it was around 500MB.

*edit 2* The Xbox just popped up while I was watching TV with a notification that Ryse was "Ready To Start". It's not done installing....but I can start it after about 10 minutes or so.
83  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbone LAUNCH DAY!!!! Which system are you getting? on: November 22, 2013, 06:35:30 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 22, 2013, 06:31:30 PM



Mine just arrived, has been unboxed, and is now patching.

Fit and finish:

1.  The Day One boxing was great.   black, sexy, with a lot of girth
2.  The console itself is smaller than I had built it up to be in my mind.   I love the modern, simple, elegant looks.   
3.  I love love love the controller.   It is the old familiar and mostly perfect 360 style controller.    No surprises.
4.  It's patching fast.   In the time it took me to type this, the update went from 0 to 20%

Yeah, I was expecting a meltdown of the servers. This is one big thing that MS did right over Sony. It was a flawless install and Live works. None of the PSN problems that Sony had.

Kudos to Microsoft!  thumbsup
84  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbone LAUNCH DAY!!!! Which system are you getting? on: November 22, 2013, 06:32:43 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on November 22, 2013, 05:24:44 PM

I already got s Hetz impression

Yep, you did. smile
85  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbone LAUNCH DAY!!!! Which system are you getting? on: November 22, 2013, 06:27:29 PM

Quote from: Teggy on November 22, 2013, 06:07:25 PM

I've got a Hetz impression:

Sony! Sony! Sony! Awesome! Sony!

Thank you, I'll be here all week.

 icon_lol

Seriously though, I've been holding off on my impressions...since I have yet to play a game on it. I will do that later this afternoon.

I can however give my impressions of the interface/UI. It is both awesome and confusing at the same time. The potential is there, no question about it. The concept is incredible and it mostly works. As I expected, Kinect is not flawless or even a massive improvement this time around. I'd call it more Kinect 1.5, rather than Kinect 2.0. Does it work better than the original, yes....most of the time. It is able to ID me much better than the old Kinect. The old Kinect used to think I was merged with a chair or part of someone else that was playing much of the time. No such problems this time. It can track me fairly well and not get confused when others are in the room. The voice control however, is hit and miss. Even when talking slow and when nobody else is talking. It works most of the time....but when it fails, it does so epically. It will open the wrong app or snap something to the side when I never even mentioned anything about snap.

My main issue with the UI is this....it is confusing as hell. There is so much going on that you really have to dig to find what it is you are looking for sometimes. I am sure I will get better at it, but as of right now....I like the PS4 UI better. Sure, it is not as complex or maybe even complete as the UI on the XB1, but I know right where everything is and can access it right away. It took me about 5 minutes to figure out everything on it. I am still figuring out stuff on the XB1, which can be good as there is a LOT of stuff in it....but also bad cause it's still quite daunting. I like to think I am pretty seasoned in electronics/computing etc...I shudder to think what some parent that purchased this for their children for Christmas will think. Hopefully they can make things a little more clear as the UI progresses.

I do like the "Challenges" thing. They are basically 0pt achievements that can be earned for pretty much all the apps and games. You can win Avatar items or in game items by completing these timed challenges....like killing 5,000 zombies in Dead Rising 3 in the next 6 days. Pretty awesome.

Anyway, those are my first quick thoughts on it....all in all....I like it. It's new and different. I am looking forward to seeing what the games are like later today.
86  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Xbone LAUNCH DAY!!!! Which system are you getting? on: November 22, 2013, 07:27:19 AM

Quote from: Canuck on November 22, 2013, 06:58:45 AM

Who would have thought that of all people, Hetz would be the first one to have the xbone up and running!?

Certainly not me....  smile

Anyway, I am hitting the hay now. Will be back in the morning with my thoughts.
87  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbone LAUNCH DAY!!!! Which system are you getting? on: November 22, 2013, 06:48:14 AM
Updating now.....going pretty fast smile

44% done

Oh and they had 4 Day One consoles available cause of canceled preorders....and I got the last one!  Woo!

Also got a green Xbox One winter hat, a dead rising 3 id badge thing to hang around my neck, a couple pins and a Xbox one knapsack. All free! Kudos to Best Buy, they know how to treat people right....

And it's all done downloading the update. Took about 5 minutes. It was 500MB or so.
88  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbone LAUNCH DAY!!!! Which system are you getting? on: November 22, 2013, 04:46:31 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 22, 2013, 04:32:05 AM


Ok... hitting the sack.   Changed the thread title a few minutes early.   LAUNCH DAY!!!!!

Night! I've got about an hour and 15 minutes left until I get my XB1....all in all....pretty fun waiting with fellow gamers for the midnight launch. smile
89  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 22, 2013, 04:13:53 AM
Pretty good supply of consoles at the Best Buy I am at. There were about 25 people in line as of now that don't have preorders and everyone is getting a console.
90  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 22, 2013, 02:13:32 AM

Quote from: PR_GMR on November 22, 2013, 02:08:45 AM

Quote from: Scraper on November 22, 2013, 12:36:17 AM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on November 22, 2013, 12:31:24 AM

Quote from: naednek on November 22, 2013, 12:18:53 AM

Or do this when you get your Xbox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1ZdrNOaOWE


"Dear Diary,

Today I gave a multinational corporation $400 so that I could take their product out the box and smash it to pieces in front of people who were unaffected and treated my antics with unimpressed mockery.

When Shelly watches this YouTube video, she'll finally see I've got what it takes to be an internet star!  Then we'll see who dumps who!  Bitch had her chance!

-Megatronic6969"

Yeah that video does nothing more than reinforce my belief that people should have to pass an IQ test prior to procreating. Within 60 years trailer parks and Jerry Springer would be a thing of the past.


He bought it and smashed it to make some sort of statement. Performance art? Anti-consumerist? Who knows. It seems like a stupid way to make a statement.

Yeah, it's a stupid stunt. They do that with each big electronics launch. Lame.

Anyway....just scored a cool Xbox One winter hat for free! Good deal, cause it's cold out here in WI tonight! Best Buy comes through with the swag....

91  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 22, 2013, 02:02:35 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on November 21, 2013, 10:38:42 PM

Quote from: TiLT on November 21, 2013, 09:42:44 PM

Quote from: Ridah on November 21, 2013, 08:21:58 PM

I look forward to seeing how Sony handles pre-orders of digital games. You know, pre-loading and all that.

They've been doing preloading for a while. In fact, I currently have Tearaway preloaded on my Vita. If I try to start it, it tells me that it's not the right date yet (it's released tomorrow).

Whoa really?  I didn't know you could preload. 

They have been doing it for awhile in Europe. They have only done it once in the USA...Call of Duty: Ghosts.
92  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 22, 2013, 01:35:18 AM

Quote from: Soulchilde on November 22, 2013, 01:07:09 AM

Just brought Killer Instinct and Xbox Fitness since they are free.  Should be ready to download to my XB1 tomorrow

 thumbsup

I supposedly am getting Killer Instinct with all the characters unlocked for free from MS.
93  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XB1] Ryse on: November 22, 2013, 12:58:55 AM
I am sooooo tempted to pick this up tonight. It LOOKS incredible. I would love to play it just for the sheer spectacle of it.

Ugh....I love the setting and I love the graphics. I know when I see it there I will cave....
94  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 22, 2013, 12:30:52 AM

Quote from: Soulchilde on November 22, 2013, 12:29:06 AM

Xbox Live experiencing sporadic interruption.  Some are speculation that it's affecting all of MS Xbox sites .. DNS errors and such and it might be a DDoS attack




Yeah, I read that as well. Hope things get sorted out by Midnight!
95  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 11:09:13 PM
Just told some older ladies that were wondering what we were doing, that I was camping out already for Black Friday.   icon_cool
96  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 14 hours until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 10:41:30 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on November 21, 2013, 04:46:57 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on November 21, 2013, 04:38:26 PM

If you guys don't think MS is worried about RRoD v.2 then you can see this article about what's inside the XB1

Btw, looks like you can change the drive, but you'll be voiding your warranty if you do



yeah, that looks like it would be fairly simple.  of course, getting the OSs and not getting banned from XBL would be two concerns.

Yeah, that would be a major concern for me. I wouldn't want to chance that.
97  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 10:31:57 PM
I'm #4 in line at Best Buy!   icon_biggrin

Just talked to the manager and he said that I get one! smile
98  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 06:40:09 PM
What the hell....I'm in. Everything in my head is telling me no way....but......

I'll be picking one up tonight at Best Buy along with Dead Rising 3. I'm a sucker for console launches. I'm so ashamed.... icon_confused
99  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 01:16:10 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on November 21, 2013, 12:41:27 PM

Also let's not confuse DLC with boosts, payed bypasses, and pay gates.  Horse armor was silly but also wasn't any of those things.  It does sound like some of these titles feature these F2P style micro transactions,  EA started doing this late last gen too.

Yeah, in Ryse you can pay gold (which you can buy with real money) to fully upgrade your character. It's not the same as horse armor or DLC. It's just like EA does with their "time saver" stuff.
100  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 21, 2013, 12:30:09 PM

Quote from: Teggy on November 21, 2013, 05:50:07 AM

It asked me during setup. 

Same here.
101  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XB1] Ryse on: November 21, 2013, 11:44:28 AM


Damnit! I wanted this to be good....   crybaby
102  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 05:03:38 AM

Quote from: pr0ner on November 21, 2013, 04:51:05 AM

Quote from: Hetz on November 21, 2013, 04:21:58 AM

Quote from: Lee on November 21, 2013, 02:35:31 AM

Ars Technica Xbox One review.

Bottom line: "Buy it if there are exclusives that appeal to you, not for the bells and whistles. Otherwise, save $100 and get a PS4."


/Thread

smile

That is basically what it boils down to. If you are in love with MS exclusives, then you should by all means get an Xbox.

If not, save yourself $100 and get the system that plays all of the other games better, the PS4.

Yep.  You're back to this:



When all else fails, attack the messenger....not the message. If you just want to throw around silly pics and names, then by all means have at it. Care to refute the review? The PS4 is $100 cheaper and plays the multiplatform games better. The XB1 has exclusives though and if you like them, then you should get the XB1. What is wrong in that statement?

103  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 04:29:10 AM

Quote from: Purge on November 21, 2013, 04:21:24 AM

Quote from: Hetz on November 21, 2013, 01:52:27 AM

Yeah, there are some people here that are VERY defensive over the XB1. I don't blame them, I'd be defensive as well and was when the shoe was on the other foot when they were kicking the PS3 all around this forum. It's kind of amusing seeing the Xbox crowd on the defensive after all the aggressive trash talking last generation. What goes around, comes around.

It's all good though. I may even get an XB1 tomorrow night. LOL....it's mine if I want it. I still don't know. It depends on Ryse reviews.

I don't understand this - you deliberately admit to trolling, baiting, etc, but it's all good because you want "the xbox crowd" (read some GT forum members) to be defensive? But it's all good now that you're doing the kicking? For every person you pigeonhole into being "of that crowd" who speaks up, there are others who don't speak up.

I've got more important things to do in my life than to satisfy duderandomguyoninternet who's already been banned once for this kind of behavior, and if you want to trash a product, open up a thread about it -this one here? It's about discussing it - but you've already pointed out that you have no interest in anything other than delivering some vengeful agenda.

Kick away.

Truthiness!

Where did I admit to trolling, baiting? I never said I wanted anyone to be defensive, I just found it funny that the people being so defensive now, were the ones that were attacking the PS3 so vehemently, last gen. Ironic is all.

I said "it's all good" as in "I don't care" about what peoples opinions are about the Xbox 1 or PS4. I don't let it get to me. I went down that road, the one that you appear to be going down, and it did not end well. Everything is not the attack you think it is. The Xbox 1 will be fine. Just breathe and let the chips fall where they may. The Xbox 1 is in for a rough go, it seems, but that doesn't mean that you just bought a $500 paperweight. I am sure that Dead Rising will be fun. I am hopeful that Ryse will be as well. If it gets good reviews tomorrow, I will probably get an Xbox One.
104  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 04:21:58 AM

Quote from: Lee on November 21, 2013, 02:35:31 AM

Ars Technica Xbox One review.

Bottom line: "Buy it if there are exclusives that appeal to you, not for the bells and whistles. Otherwise, save $100 and get a PS4."


/Thread

smile

That is basically what it boils down to. If you are in love with MS exclusives, then you should by all means get an Xbox.

If not, save yourself $100 and get the system that plays all of the other games better, the PS4.
105  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 01:52:27 AM

Quote from: Canuck on November 21, 2013, 01:42:44 AM

Yes I don't understand why you're being defensive either. I don't think anyone has spared Sony. Tons of people said that they wouldn't get the PS4 if it didn't have local streaming which as an extremely valid point.
Also, why are you expecting congratulations for good reviews? Did you make the game?

Yeah, there are some people here that are VERY defensive over the XB1. I don't blame them, I'd be defensive as well and was when the shoe was on the other foot when they were kicking the PS3 all around this forum. It's kind of amusing seeing the Xbox crowd on the defensive after all the aggressive trash talking last generation. What goes around, comes around.

It's all good though. I may even get an XB1 tomorrow night. LOL....it's mine if I want it. I still don't know. It depends on Ryse reviews.
106  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 20, 2013, 04:41:51 PM
No storage management on the XB1:

http://www.neowin.net/news/xbox-one-lacks-proper-storage-management-microsoft-says-it-is-automatic

You can't upgrade the storage and you have no way of telling how much space you have left.  thumbsdown
107  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 04:34:05 PM
Xbone lacks proper storage management....you cant even tell how much space you have left on the internal hard drive.

http://www.neowin.net/news/xbox-one-lacks-proper-storage-management-microsoft-says-it-is-automatic

It's automatic!   icon_lol

Oh and remember, there is currently no way to upgrade the hard drive at all. USB drives are not supported yet. So, there is no way to tell how much space you have left on the drive....and you can't upgrade the drive at all. Seems fair.   Roll Eyes
108  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 04:30:49 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 20, 2013, 04:23:51 PM

Quote from: Hetz
Why MS insists on shoving the thing down everyone's throat, I don't know. It doesn't work.

If you don't want to use voice recognition, use the controller. They're not forcing anything.


Have you seen trying to upload a video of your gameplay without using the Kinect?? Sure, you can do it...but it is complex and requires multiple steps to do. The UI and basic System Functionality have been all designed around the Kinect.
109  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 04:28:25 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 20, 2013, 04:22:35 PM

Quote from: Hetz on November 20, 2013, 04:20:00 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 20, 2013, 04:08:23 PM

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seeing the ign raw video makes me a bit bummed.  the voice commands don't appear to work any better than they did in Kinect 1.0.  in fact, it felt pretty much exactly what I remember with Kinect 1.0.  it seems like half of the time, the commands need to be repeated.  

From what I'm reading, there's a learning curve in figuring out how the Kinect wants to hear commands. If you just say "XboxForzaMotorsport5" it's not going to work and you're going to think it's non-responsive. You have to do a short pause after the Xbox to notify the unit you're about to issue the command. The IGN guy was running his words together quite often when it didn't respond. (Though I was surprised that even when he was running his words together it was still able to understand him quite often).

If you watch the video there were several times where the dude just wasn't using the right command. (For instance, saying "Xbox what's on MTV" before doing a Select).

Now I don't believe for a second that voice recognition is 100% perfect on the thing, but it is a machine and you can't blame it for not interpreting your intentions.

See, but this was the problem with the Kinect 1 and why the Kinect 2 seems to be no better. This is the real world, not a controlled environment where everyone knows exactly what to say and how to say it. In theory, the Kinect is awesome. In the real world...it sucks. Why MS insists on shoving the thing down everyone's throat, I don't know. It doesn't work.

Give me an Xbox One, without Kinect, for $399. That is what they should have done from the start.



No they shouldn't have.   The ps camera will be a failure for this very reason.

The Kinect will have solid support for the next 8 years.

So what if the PS Camera is a failure....it won't take the system down with it. It's optional and I have the choice to add it or not.

The Kinect on the other hand...that is basically required. To do simple things without it, like upload a video, requires a multitude of steps on the controller....you basically need a flow chart. With the Kinect, you just say 'Xbox Record That". Of course, the Xbox has to understand what you are saying...but the point is, the system was designed around the Kinect. Without it, it is a confusing mess.

If the Kinect fails, the Xbox One fails. It's as simple as that. They bet the farm on it.
110  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 04:20:00 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 20, 2013, 04:08:23 PM

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seeing the ign raw video makes me a bit bummed.  the voice commands don't appear to work any better than they did in Kinect 1.0.  in fact, it felt pretty much exactly what I remember with Kinect 1.0.  it seems like half of the time, the commands need to be repeated.  

From what I'm reading, there's a learning curve in figuring out how the Kinect wants to hear commands. If you just say "XboxForzaMotorsport5" it's not going to work and you're going to think it's non-responsive. You have to do a short pause after the Xbox to notify the unit you're about to issue the command. The IGN guy was running his words together quite often when it didn't respond. (Though I was surprised that even when he was running his words together it was still able to understand him quite often).

If you watch the video there were several times where the dude just wasn't using the right command. (For instance, saying "Xbox what's on MTV" before doing a Select).

Now I don't believe for a second that voice recognition is 100% perfect on the thing, but it is a machine and you can't blame it for not interpreting your intentions.

See, but this was the problem with the Kinect 1 and why the Kinect 2 seems to be no better. This is the real world, not a controlled environment where everyone knows exactly what to say and how to say it. In theory, the Kinect is awesome. In the real world...it sucks. Why MS insists on shoving the thing down everyone's throat, I don't know. It doesn't work.

Give me an Xbox One, without Kinect, for $399. That is what they should have done from the start.

111  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 04:10:06 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 20, 2013, 03:53:19 PM

I'm assuming the ign video had the day one patch.....

Considering you can do absolutely nothing on the console without it, I'd say yes.
112  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 04:07:50 PM
Good overview of the Xbox One hardware and comparing it to the PS4 and 360.

http://anandtech.com/show/7528/the-xbox-one-mini-review-hardware-analysis

113  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 01:49:24 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on November 20, 2013, 01:44:26 PM

Wait is the XB1 really only doing stereo for hdmi pass through?

It does? Oh wow...that kills that feature right there for me.
114  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 01:08:58 PM

Quote from: TiLT on November 20, 2013, 01:05:55 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on November 20, 2013, 01:02:54 PM

I think you do care if MS stumbles.  You've shown that you have a preference for Sony and PS4 and that's fine, but if you think Sony's launch hasn't stumbled with system failures and PSN issues then you are just being blind

The PS4 has indeed had disappointing PSN performance in the first few days from what I've been reading (remember, I don't have any of these new consoles yet). I'm not ignoring it, it's just not a flaw in the PS4 itself, unlike the things I mentioned above. The system failures are, at least according to Sony, present in less than 1% of the sold systems and well within expected parameters, so those I am indeed ignoring, just as I will ignore reports of system failures for the Xbox One within those same parameters.

PSN performance has been bad, though not multiplayer or store performance....just some of the dynamic menu things, like the "What's New" thing and the dynamic Menus for the games. Other than the very first day, I have not had any problems downloading items from the store or playing multiplayer games. Works perfectly.
115  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 01:04:04 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 20, 2013, 01:01:26 PM

Quote from: Hetz on November 20, 2013, 12:56:40 PM

Quote from: Canuck on November 20, 2013, 12:45:22 PM

Quote from: Hetz on November 20, 2013, 12:21:37 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on November 20, 2013, 10:36:01 AM

IGN doesn't have a score up but what they do have is 23 minutes of unedited video of one of the producers using the xbox.  

I'm excited for Friday, but I can see where some frustration will crop up using the voice features

Wow, that was not a flattering video at all.

Also, it takes 1 minute and 8 seconds to boot the machine?!?!? Ugh....glad I'm waiting. Hopefully they iron this stuff out, soon.
I thought it took 22 seconds? Obviously, both consoles are unfinished-that's what's so great about the whole thing. Look at the PS3 at the beginning of the generation and at the end. If Sony does the same with the PS4 then it will be the greatest console off all time by the end of this new gen.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-one-hardware-test

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an Xbox One cold boot takes a remarkable one minute, eight seconds to complete



So what?  My PS4 cold boot (not from standby) takes a remarkable 40 seconds to boot.   I seldom have the thing completely shut down.

You do realize that is 28 seconds less than the Xbone, right?
116  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 01:03:05 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 20, 2013, 12:55:38 PM



I have to chuckle.    The PS4 launched less than a week ago to reviews that, based on about an hour of comparing late last night, were either equal or a notch below those of the Xbone.   Somehow that translates to some of you as the PS4 being the OMGZ GREATAST EVAR TROUNCE XBONEZZZZZZZZZzzzz #spittlethroughretainer.

I've read review after review of the Bone last night and they range from equal to a notch better than the PS4.  

You have to remember that the Xbone is $100 more expensive. It seems that the $100 you are spending for a "premium" experience is wasted right now...since lots of the stuff is broken. I mean, did you see the IGN uncut demo video. That was pretty painful to watch. To say that voice recognition is broken, is an understatement. How in the world are you supposed to "snap" things (the thing that makes it worth $100 more than the PS4, according to some), when the Xbox can't figure out what you are saying?
117  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 12:56:40 PM

Quote from: Canuck on November 20, 2013, 12:45:22 PM

Quote from: Hetz on November 20, 2013, 12:21:37 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on November 20, 2013, 10:36:01 AM

IGN doesn't have a score up but what they do have is 23 minutes of unedited video of one of the producers using the xbox.   

I'm excited for Friday, but I can see where some frustration will crop up using the voice features

Wow, that was not a flattering video at all.

Also, it takes 1 minute and 8 seconds to boot the machine?!?!? Ugh....glad I'm waiting. Hopefully they iron this stuff out, soon.
I thought it took 22 seconds? Obviously, both consoles are unfinished-that's what's so great about the whole thing. Look at the PS3 at the beginning of the generation and at the end. If Sony does the same with the PS4 then it will be the greatest console off all time by the end of this new gen.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-one-hardware-test

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an Xbox One cold boot takes a remarkable one minute, eight seconds to complete

118  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 20, 2013, 12:29:17 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on November 20, 2013, 02:22:54 AM

I remember Sony saying you could play the game after only a fraction downloaded and it would download the rest.  Is that something that needed to be implemented for games and doesn't just work?

When I downloaded Call of Duty, it gave me the option to download the Single Player or Multiplayer first.
119  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 12:21:37 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on November 20, 2013, 10:36:01 AM

IGN doesn't have a score up but what they do have is 23 minutes of unedited video of one of the producers using the xbox.   

I'm excited for Friday, but I can see where some frustration will crop up using the voice features

Wow, that was not a flattering video at all.

Also, it takes 1 minute and 8 seconds to boot the machine?!?!? Ugh....glad I'm waiting. Hopefully they iron this stuff out, soon.
120  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: $80 best buy gift card and a ps4. on: November 19, 2013, 09:21:16 PM
Yeah, the patch today makes it 1080p and adds some more AA. Looks incredible!
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