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3841  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 Pre-Release Thread on: August 17, 2005, 03:44:21 PM
Pics of the packages:

The Big Bundle pack:



The "core" (crap) system:

3842  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 Pre-Release Thread on: August 17, 2005, 12:46:51 PM
It's official.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/642/642656p1.html

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The Xbox 360 core system -- priced at $299.99 in the United States, ?299.99 in Europe and £209.99 in the U.K. -- will come with the console, a wired controller, faceplate, standard audio-visual cable and an Xbox Live Silver membership. An Xbox Live Silver membership allows you to create a user id, download game content, access the Xbox 360 marketplace and gives Live users the ability to chat with friends. It does not, however, allow users to play games online. To do this, Silver members must upgrade to a Gold membership.

The Xbox 360 fully-loaded system -- priced at $399.99 in the United States, ?399.99 in Europe and £279.99 in the U.K. -- will come complete with the console, a wireless controller, a 20GB detachable hard drive, a faceplate, headset, component HD audio-visual cables, an Ethernet cable, Xbox Live Silver membership and, for a limited time, an Xbox 360 media remote.
3843  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 Pre-Release Thread on: August 17, 2005, 11:26:51 AM
Wow, if that is true, I am going to say a big WTF at Microsoft!

Wired controller and no hard drive @299??

That is horrible. Will Oblivion even work on an Xbox 360 with no hard drive? I doubt it. This doesn't sound right at all...

Well if it is true, it's the $399 version for me.
3844  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 Pre-Release Thread on: August 17, 2005, 02:30:28 AM
I am #2 at my Gamestop. I ordered the day after the Microsoft/MTV unveiling of the system.

I've got about $250 paid off already on the system from trading in old games. They give you 20% extra in trade-in value if you trade it for credit on an Xbox 360 preorder...or at least they did the last time I was in...
3845  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 Pre-Release Thread on: August 16, 2005, 11:56:42 PM
Quote from: "AgtFox"
The announcement tomorrow may not be happening since none of the big 3 Xbox people (Robbie Bach, J. Allard, Peter Moore) are in Germany.  News is here.  Also rumors of a PS2 price drop coming out of Germany.

WARNING: They are saying that the Xbox 360 will be coming out at a far higher price than the Wal-Mart rumor, so take it how you will.


Err...Xbox.com would beg to differ....   biggrin

Check out the main page!



 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
3846  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Zelda delayed :( on: August 16, 2005, 11:45:52 AM
Wow, that is a huge blow for the Gamecube this holiday season...and they really can't afford any more huge blows.

The new Zelda game looked pretty good, but if it is not out until Spring/Summer/Fall of next year, will anyone still care since the Xbox 360 and PS3 should both be out? Heck, even the Revolution could be out before this game gets released....or will it now be a Revolution game????
3847  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Vote for which type of Bioware game you want next! on: August 15, 2005, 07:06:20 PM
I want Baldurs Gate 3!
3848  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 Pre-Release Thread on: August 15, 2005, 12:11:34 PM
Here is an interesting post from the IGN forums:

Quote
I was in a long meeting with MS representatives 2 days ago and I asked alot of questions. I figured it would be of some interest to some of you, being that we have no information "officially" that is from MS...us meaning the end users here. I do have more info to post, juicy stuff but cannot for a while. With roughly 3 months or less to go before the release of the new system, Microsoft has and currently is in chaos!

The Retailers

For those that do not know, it takes alot to get footage and display area for any retailer. MS has been for the last 2-3 months been working with major retailers on Kiosks and display footage for the Xbox 360. One retailer in fact is dedicating a total of 16' of space for the Xbox alone. This would include a section for hardware, accessories and software.

MS has also been hard at work in completing signage that will be installed in major retailers to support the pre-launch efforts for the 360. Late September, early October are the target time frames for these instore displays to arrive at retailers. This does not include the Kiosk that will house an HDTV to display Xbox 360 games.

The Developers

If dealing with the thousands of retailers that support thousands of stores is not enough, there is the dealing of the developers which MS has been courting for a while to ensure that sufficient launch titles are available. MS has been for some time, been getting intel on every title almost on a weekly basis. This is needed to provide retailers up to date information on what will be available and when.

MS internal teams are on fire at the moment trying to get stuff nailed for the launch window. On top of individual developers within MS, there are the technology group that is at max overdrive trying to help developers on each project.

The Hardware

The Hardware is finalized, but fabrication and production is still not in motion fully as of yet. There are no further changes to the actual system, it is just a matter of getting it all together to make the system and begin mass production, which is planned for the end of the month. Again, in dealing with retailers MS needs to have some numbers available shortly. Other than the actual system, the various accessories which MS is producing the bulk of is in chaos as well.

Xbox Live 360
While our representitve had more information about other things, that did not stop me from asking about Xbox Live. MS is very aware that they will be the first company to have On-line play available on day one of the launch of the system. While the DC and Xbox came with the capabilities to do on-line, no titles were availble for roughly a year later. What does this mean? Well that all Xbox 360 games that have on-line play have been going through some serious testing and debugging for some time now. MS knows that on-line is the future as they stated when they released Xbox Live and they know they cannot have 3/4 of the games not work right on day one. Each developer is on stand-by alert for the first few weeks of release to jump on any issues and related on-line bugs/glitches. Our rep said it is a massive undertaking to have on-line on day one.

What does this mean???

It is actually, nothing negative. With the timeline MS has, the company or at least alot of the home entertainment divisions are in chaos, controlled chaos, but in chaos...but that is said in a good way. With so much going on and it all is centered around an early November release, you cannot imagine what it takes to get this thing off the ground. MS has been doing some serious homework with retailers (which I am one of them and why this is more or less more about retails and how it impacts retailers). MS has really struck some major deals for space at retailers and as mentioned above, one retailer will have a very large 16 display set up in Mid-Late September. Space for this area actually will be made in early September.

MS in general has really planned out the launch, unfortunately at this time they still have not been able to provide shipping numbers for hardware or accessories. Game titles for launch are yet to be confirmed due to most (ALL) developers are going to the wire to get them done in time. MS has also done some serious work on distribution methods due to the timing that they have. If a planned title for launch is off by one day, even now, it will not make it on time...simply because of certification, production and shipping. With Xbox Live 360 in the mix it adds another level of chaos to the top.

In my years of retail, I have never really seen a company this organized 3 months out, but if you take into account everything that has to happen for a launch of a new system from games, hardware, accessories and on-line, you cannot not be in chaos on your schedule. While we were informed that it is a frantic pace at MS HQ, they feel everything is going to happen and happen on-time.
3849  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 Pre-Release Thread on: August 12, 2005, 09:28:32 PM
Quote from: "olaf"
I would be shocked if the 360 version looks better, and runs better, than the PC version.  I guess we'll see.  I realize the comparison is not apples to apples, but that sure as hell didnt happen with Morrowind.

olaf


The XBox version was basicly an afterthought for Morrowind. It wasn't planned as an Xbox game, they just realised they could somewhat pull it off on the Xbox about mid-way through development, so they decided to go for it. The PC version of course was much, much better, both graphicaly and from a playability standpoint. Also, the Xbox was much less powerful than most PC's at the time.

Oblivion was designed from the start to be an Xbox 360 title. The Xbox 360 is more powerful than any PC out right now. It will look the same, or better than the best PC can do and the controls have been revamped and simplified to make it easier to use a joypad to play the game. Other than the mod situtation, which is still unclear, there is no real advantage this time to playing on the PC....except the mouse/keyboard preference.
3850  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 Pre-Release Thread on: August 12, 2005, 11:27:04 AM
Quote from: "olaf"
Only thing I see on the list that is a must have for me is Oblivion...and I would rather play that on the PC I think.

olaf


I thought so as well, until I read something a little while ago where the devs said the Xbox 360 version would look and play better than the PC version. They said even if you had the best computer you could by at the time it was released, it still wouldn't have as good a framerate as the Xbox 360 version.

Here is the quote:

Quote
Right at this moment I'm in Washington, having just seen The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion at Bethesda and I thought to be nice and share a few tidbits with you all. I am, of course, going to save the most informative for my article at GameReactor, but since it's in danish you won't be able to read it anyway.

Anyways, I dunno what to say, but just, DAMN!, it really does look incredible in almost every aspect, and for those wondering, the Xbox 360 version will look at least as good as the PC version and even better (since the frame output on the 360 is generally better). All the basic content is the same (texture resolutions etc.), but the 360 can actually render it better... and here we are comparing to THE best PC you can buy on Oblivion launch day...


and

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The PC version we saw was running on a SLI-system, very high end and all, but what they meant, of course, was that in the end, the XBox 360 version might actually look a little better. With the highest-end PC bought on Oblivion launch day with all the graphics options turned to their highest, Bethesda said it would look just as good as the 360 version, although 360s framerate output may make that version look a little bit better...


Now, I will probabily get the PC version as well for the mods...but damn!
3851  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Hold the Phones guys, Xbox 360 Hard Drive not included? on: August 11, 2005, 09:39:45 PM
From the new September Issue of GI:

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The Allard interview doesn't really say much that we hadn't known already. States that all launch 360's will come pre-packaged with a HDD, but they might release a HD-DVD/Blu-ray version or HDD-less version later, depending on how the format war goes. The whole interview is talking about hardware.
3852  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 Pre-Release Thread on: August 11, 2005, 08:22:54 PM
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3142741

Price and date to be revealed on 8/17 at 9:30AM EST!

Can't wait!!! I can finally know what day to ask off from work for! smile
3853  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 Pre-Release Thread on: August 11, 2005, 03:34:14 PM
This is an interesting article:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/641/641086p1.html

The launch lineup? It is according to EB...

# Amped 3 (2K Games)
# Call of Duty 2 (Activision)
# Condemned (Sega)
# Dead Or Alive 4 (Tecmo)
# Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Bethesda)
# Final Fantasy XI (Microsoft)
# Full Auto (Sega)
# Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
# Gun (Activision)
# Kameo: Elements of Power (Microsoft)
# Madden NFL 06 (EA)
# NBA 2K6 (2K Games)
# NHL 2K6 (2K Games)
# The Outfit (THQ)
# Perfect Dark LE (Microsoft)
# Project Gotham Racing 3 (Microsoft)
# Quake 4 (Activision)
# Ridge Racer 6 (Namco)
# Saints Row (THQ)
# Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (Activision)
# Top Spin 2 (2K Games)

Xbox 360 second wave launch titles, which EB has scheduled for November 16, include the majority of Electronic Arts' games:

* Burnout Revenge
* FIFA Soccer 06
* Peter Jackson's King Kong
* NBA Live 06
* Need For Speed Most Wanted
* Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06

Namco's Frame City Killer is listed as releasing November 19, 2005
3854  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 Pre-Release Thread on: August 11, 2005, 03:12:49 PM
Hope this one goes better...

Things we know so far:

1) Wal-Mart has stated that the 360 will be out on 11/4/05 for $299.99

2) Microsoft should make an official statement about the price and a date at the Games Convention held in Leipzig, Germany from August 17-21.

3) The launch lineup looks pretty good so far, with about 21 titles available on launch day.
3855  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 11, 2005, 01:42:10 AM
Quote from: "stiffler"
Quote from: "warning"
3) Everyone could have realized that on a forum site entitled ConsoleGold there will probably be strong opinions about consoles (go figure) and everyone could have agreed that mostly it's a matter of preference and opinion.  Inflammatory talk would have died down quickly and a thoughtful discussion would have ensued.


Let's just go with #3.  There's a boatload of derailment (hello, all the PS3 stuff), and not just in this thread.  TML was just making a joke and it got under somebody's skin.  He did mention the 360, as in he wasn't getting one.  He'd rather have a Revolution.  He didn't even say the 360 sucked, just that he wanted Smash Bros. Online...  What's the big deal?

Finally, this idea of thread ownership?  Good lord, when you hit "submit" it's in the wild.  It takes on a life of its own and nobody can control it.


*sigh*

Oh please, it wasn't a joke. It was a troll.

It would be a like me going into a Dungeon Siege 2 thread and saying "Guess what I am doing on release date? Plunking down $5 on Oblivion, suckers! VIVA LA ELDER SCROLLS AND OBLIVION!!!" Then acting shocked and offended when I am called a troll and they point out the fact that Oblivion sucks because of this, that or whatever.


 :roll:
3856  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 10, 2005, 08:52:51 PM
Quote from: "AgtFox"
I am going to guess the details will be forthcoming this month or next.  I can't believe they'd hold out until October 4th/5th during X05 to unveil the details given it would be about a month before release.


The current rumor going around is that they are going to be releasing official price/date info at the Games Convention held in Leipzig, Germany from August 17-21.
3857  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 10, 2005, 08:13:53 PM
Quote from: "pr0ner"
Do you realize they could have made those statements in jest, poking fun at your rabid XBOX 360 love/Nintendo hate?


Wow, you are full of excuses aren't you. Hell, maybe mine were made in jest as well, due to their rabid Nintendo love/Xbox 360 hate!

Anyway, the TML post was made BEFORE any mention of the Revolution was made in this thread. It was all discussion of the Xbox 360 launch...then he comes in with a troll and we all see how this thread ended up.

Try to explain that away now. I can't wait to hear what you come up with for that one!
3858  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 10, 2005, 07:47:08 PM
Quote
They are nothing without games. Besides, you don't see me on here spouting off "XBox exclusive games suck" like you have with Nintendo, do you?


No, you didn't proner...but others (trolls) in this thread did have similar statements of love about the Xbox 360

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I would rather use my money on a Revolution or PS3 and not on that garbage.


Quote
Xbox 360 = teh suck.


and the one that started it all, from your bud TML!

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I'm going to walk into my favorite gaming store on November 4th..............

and I'm going to plunk down 20 bucks for a Revolution or PS3 preorder. VIVA LA REVOLUTION! VIVA LA ONLINE SMASH BROS.!!
3859  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 10, 2005, 07:07:06 PM
Quote from: "pr0ner"
Quote from: "Hetz"
Quote from: "pr0ner"
Quote from: "warning"
Quote from: "Hetz"
Err....what?

Honestly, if it's about the games than Nintendo....nah nevermind. If you think the Gamecube has great games, well that's just peachy.

I've taken the troll bait way too many times in this thread.

People have different opinions on what is fun.  That is not okay with you?


I have to echo what you've said.  It seems as though it's not ok with Hetz to like Nintendo for their games.  Or to have an opinion different from his.  If you do, you're automatically a "fanboy".

Mike


 :roll:

Really, where did I say that?


I recall you calling Kevin Grey a fanboy in this very thread for liking Nintendo.

Quote from: "Hetz"
It's called an opinion. I have mine, you have yours.

Nintendo has really let me down with the Gamecube. Personally, I think that anyone that doesn't think that must be living with blinders on (ie. a fanboy).

I don't see why you are taking such offense to this anyway. People call me a rabid fanboy for Oblivion but I don't get all in a huff about it. I just smile and agree with them. It's ok to be a fanboy.


I don't think that EVERYONE that disagrees with me is a fanboy and I never said that. Kevin was acting like a fanboy, getting all bent out of shape about my opinion about Nintendo.

Anyway, life is too short for this crap. Buy a Revolution, I really don't care, just take it to another thread and don't just come here to troll and announce to everyone how crappy the 360 is and how you are going to put money on the PS3/Revolution on the day the 360 comes out.

The tone was set with that post and it went downhill from there. For my part, I am sorry. I didn't start it, (thank missinglink for that) but I should have kept my mouth shut and not continued it.
3860  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 10, 2005, 06:27:59 PM
Quote from: "pr0ner"
Quote from: "warning"
Quote from: "Hetz"
Err....what?

Honestly, if it's about the games than Nintendo....nah nevermind. If you think the Gamecube has great games, well that's just peachy.

I've taken the troll bait way too many times in this thread.

People have different opinions on what is fun.  That is not okay with you?


I have to echo what you've said.  It seems as though it's not ok with Hetz to like Nintendo for their games.  Or to have an opinion different from his.  If you do, you're automatically a "fanboy".

Mike


 :roll:

Really, where did I say that?
3861  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 10, 2005, 04:08:48 PM
Quote from: "pr0ner"
Hetz, you are TOTALLY missing the point.  To people like TML and depward, all the bells and whistles on the hardware mean NOTHING if there are no games on the system that they want to play.  The Revolution obviously has games they are interested in playing. XBOX 360 does not.  Therefore, what logical reason is there for them to want an XBOX 360?  

It's about the games, stupid!


Err....what?

Honestly, if it's about the games than Nintendo....nah nevermind. If you think the Gamecube has great games, well that's just peachy.

I've taken the troll bait way too many times in this thread.
3862  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 10, 2005, 11:31:07 AM
Quote
And your whining about Mario 128 and Super Smash Bros. sounds like you haven't even tried playing any of the newer Mario games or the Cube Smash Bros. because they're just too darn "kiddy" for you. And that's sad.


Wrong again.

I owned a Gamecube the day it came out. I purchased Mario Sunshine and Super Smash Brothers. I thought that Mario Sunshine was an absolute mess. I loved the old Super Mario games, but Mario Sunshine was just stupid.

As for Super Smash Brothers, well I did play it quite a few times with my (at the time) 12 year old sister-in-law. She seemed to like it quite a bit. I thought it was ok, but I have played probabily 50  better games for the PS2 or Xbox. I am hardly waiting with bated breath for the sequel that is playable online.

When the Gamecube came out, Nintendo made a lot of promices and grand statements, many of which Tebunker proclaimed at the time on GG, that showed that Nintendo had changed from the strategy of the N64 that landed them in 2nd place. Instead we got more of the same from Nintendo, heck if anything they were worse than they were on the N64 with 3rd party games and games that were targeted to children.

But hey, whatever floats your boat!
3863  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 10, 2005, 03:33:16 AM
Quote from: "depward"
Here's a post about the Xbox360 - I'm not going to get one.  I would rather use my money on a Revolution or PS3 and not on that garbage.  I've been let down with the Xbox on so many levels.  And I see no launch games that look even rentable.

Xbox 360 = teh suck.


Wow, I didn't see that coming...   :roll:

How anyone can consider a Revolution over the 360 is beyond me. No HDTV support, Nintendos famous lack of 3rd party support and the big launch titles...Mario 128 and Super Smash Bros Onine! OH SIGN ME UP! BE STILL MY BEATING HEART!!!!  :roll:

The PS3 should be great, but it won't be out until late next year....and it will cost quite a bit more than the 360.
3864  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 10, 2005, 02:46:56 AM
Quote from: "Kevin Grey"
Thank you, adamsappel.  Hetz, you may wear badge of Oblivion fanboy with pride but as far as I'm concerned being called a "fanboy" is as direct an insult as anything in the Code of Conduct.  

You have your opinion on Nintendo's games, hardware, and company policies and they all merit discussion.  That doesn't give you the right to insult those of us on this forum who might differ in these opinions as either kiddie or a "rabid Nintendo fanboy that refuses to let go of the past" (and if you don't think that phrase is insulting what the hell is wrong with you ?).

The reason I take issue with this is this kind of rhetoric is only going to get worse as we get closer to the launch of the next-gen systems.  I remember how heated things were in the fall of 2001 at Gone Gold before the Xbox and Cube launched and I don't really want to read that crap again.  If the mods are going to allow this kind of crap to go through then this will likely be a forum I won't want to frequent as much in the coming year.


Hey, I didn't start the Revolution talk, someone else (TheMissingLink)brought that into the discussion by saying he would be putting a deposit on the Revolution the day the Xbox 360 came out. Yes, I took the bait.

Take the Revolution crap to a REVOLUTION thread and you won't get pounced on. What the hell did you expect? This is a thread about the Xbox 360 and it's launch not "VIVA LA SMASH BROS!!>!>/...blah blah blah"
3865  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 09, 2005, 10:51:44 PM
Quote from: "Kevin Grey"
Quote from: "Hetz"


I don't see why you are taking such offense to this anyway. People call me a rabid fanboy for Oblivion but I don't get all in a huff about it. I just smile and agree with them. It's ok to be a fanboy.


How am I a fanboy again?  Please explain with more than "because you like the Gamecube."


Just how upset you are getting about people saying they are upset with how Nintendo has been rather dissapointing with the Gamecube.

Also, anyone that gets this upset with being called a fanboy, is usually a fanboy.

I think the main problem is Nintendo is stuck in the past, refusing to go forward on each system (ie. Carts vs CD's, mini-dvd's vs DVD, 480p vs 720p or 1080i). They have lost lots of third party support because of it. Yes, they have good to great first party stuff...but that can only take you so far....as they are finding out with the 3rd place finish of the Gamecube.
3866  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 09, 2005, 08:00:31 PM
Quote from: "Kevin Grey"
Quote from: "Hetz"
Nintendo has been a complete failure unless you are a gamer under 13 years of age, or a rabid Nintendo fanboy that refuses to let go of the past.


Do you actively try to be obnoxious or does it just come naturally?

Where do I fit?  I'm 30 years old and hardly a "rabid Nintendo fanboy that refuses to let go of the past" considering I have only owned a NES and  Gamecube during their lifetimes.  Yet I don't find the Gamecube a failure at all and have played and enjoyed more than enough games to have justified its purchase.


It's called an opinion. I have mine, you have yours.

Nintendo has really let me down with the Gamecube. Personally, I think that anyone that doesn't think that must be living with blinders on (ie. a fanboy).

I don't see why you are taking such offense to this anyway. People call me a rabid fanboy for Oblivion but I don't get all in a huff about it. I just smile and agree with them. It's ok to be a fanboy.
3867  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 09, 2005, 06:38:38 PM
Quote from: "TheMissingLink"
Quote from: "Hetz"
Quote from: "TheMissingLink"
I'm going to walk into my favorite gaming store on November 4th..............

and I'm going to plunk down 20 bucks for a Revolution or PS3 preorder.  VIVA LA REVOLUTION!  VIVA LA ONLINE SMASH BROS.!!


 :shock:

Well, all I can't say is....I'm sorry.


360 = meh.


Gamecube and Revolution = *snore*

Nintendo has been a complete failure unless you are a gamer under 13 years of age, or a rabid Nintendo fanboy that refuses to let go of the past.

I used to love Nintendo, but they have been falling way behind ever since the N64 and their stupid decision to use carts, instead of CD's. Now in the latest EGM they say that nobody will be playing the Revolution on an HDTV so they will only be supporting 480p.

 :shock:

What are they thinking? HDTV is the wave of the future and both the Xbox 360 and PS3 are going to be having it on all their games. Another great decision from the minds that brought you the stupid mini-dvd thing for the Gamecube.
3868  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / What's wrong with "banned" Crowley? on: August 04, 2005, 11:46:06 PM
I got hit with the disgusting PM's from Crowley as well.

He got me on the first time around, but I knew better than to open the latest one today.

I don't know what the hell is wrong with him, but he seems to have some serious psychological issues.
3869  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 04, 2005, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: "TheMissingLink"
I'm going to walk into my favorite gaming store on November 4th..............

and I'm going to plunk down 20 bucks for a Revolution or PS3 preorder.  VIVA LA REVOLUTION!  VIVA LA ONLINE SMASH BROS.!!


 :shock:

Well, all I can't say is....I'm sorry.
3870  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 04, 2005, 03:00:33 AM
The retail box!

It's getting closer...



I've already taken off work for November 3rd and 4th!   biggrin
3871  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 Info from PSM on: August 03, 2005, 03:34:32 PM
No PS3 until 2007?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/08/02/news_6129862.html?tag=lastword_all_headline

Sony would be nuts if they did that. Right now, the word ftom Sony is that the PS3 will launch in Japan before 3/31/06 and in North America late 2006...which I think is giving the 360 way too big a lead...but we will see.
3872  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 Info from PSM on: August 03, 2005, 03:01:28 AM
Quote from: "Kevin Grey"
But Hetz, everything I can find states that MS is also only mandating 720p as a minimum for 360 games.  Why aren't you railing against them too?


From XBOX.com:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox360/factsheet.htm

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All games supported at 16:9, 720p, and 1080i, anti-aliasing
3873  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 Info from PSM on: August 03, 2005, 01:33:46 AM
Quote from: "Kevin Grey"
Quote from: "Destructor"


Which means that we'll all be buying lots of Sony branded memory sticks (which generally are not cheap) to save our games on.
 


That much is incorrect.  Sony is supporting pretty much every type of portable storage media on the market.  Have a Compac Flash card laying around? You can probably use it to save your games.

No idea about the hard drive part.


The hard drive will not support saves, that is the word on the street. It will only support "media" and be optional, which means it will suffer the same fate as the PS2 hard drive.

It's just silly to not include a hard drive as a standard feature at this point. I am stick of memory cards/sticks/flash media...blah, blah, blah. Just another way to milk money out of people.
3874  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 Info from PSM on: August 03, 2005, 01:31:10 AM
There is a difference between native 720p and upscaled 720p. Many sets sold now do upscaled 720p, but very few (unless they are plasma) do native 720p.

Most all sets sold before a year or so ago don't do 720p at all, not even upscaled, meaning the sets themselves do not upscale, they would need to be scaled by the PS3 or 360 or whatever.

Upscaled 720p does not look as good as native 720p or native 1080i, which is why it is silly for Sony to not include 1080i as a standard resolution, if the PS3 is as powerful as they claim.
3875  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 Info from PSM on: August 02, 2005, 11:47:01 PM
Got this from OO, thanks baron/Rob:


http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/38046

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The latest issue of independent PlayStation 2/3 magazine PSM has quite a few details regarding the PS3, including some already-suspected information as well as a couple surprises. Details include:

* Exhaustive connectivity between PSP and PS3: PSP will interface with the PS3 through Bluetooth, serving as a remote and media manager for the console. PSP can also access PS3 over the internet, so the two can interface even when you're far away.
* No standard 1080i (or 1080p) support: Most games will apparently run at 720p; use of 1080i and 1080p is only at the developer's discretion. All games should have support for 480p and 480i for gamers without HDTVs.
* Wider storage medium support than expected: PS3 will support Memory Sticks, Compact Flash, SD cards, Blu-Ray (of course), and SACD. UMD support doesn't seem present, though.
* Software-only backwards compatibility: While PS3 will play PS1/PS2 games, it has no ports for peripherals for those systems, including their memory cards. All save data must be accessed through flash memory cards (that means no save data can be stored on the hard drive either, according to PSM). PSM speculates that Sony will release a USB multi-tap like device with legacy support for controllers and memory cards.
* Wireless access point: The PS3 will serve as a wireless access point (think they'll go out of their way to lock out access to Nintendo's DS online service?). The PSM article also mentions router functionality, though past reports have indicated that this will no longer be the case.
* Release date: Just a general "spring 2006". Some developers assume this applies to Japan, Europe, and North America.
* Wacky controller: Yeah, it's still a banana.

An excerpt of note, regarding the PS3 demos at E3:

None of the game footage was taken from software running on systems using the final PS3 graphics chip, the Reality Synthesizer (RSX). ... The most stunning demo, Killzone PS3, was from an actual game engine running on an alpha kit--at less than five frames per second. The footage was sped up to 60fps in post-production.


* No standard 1080i (or 1080p) support: Most games will apparently run at 720p; use of 1080i and 1080p is only at the developer's discretion. All games should have support for 480p and 480i for gamers without HDTVs.

 :shock:

Well, no PS3 for me then.

That is just insane, since 60-70% of HDTV's have no support for 720p and most that do have to upscale it to 1080i. There are not that many native 720p sets out there.

Is Sony TRYING to lose this war before it even starts?

- No 1080i Support
- No standard hard drive
- A god awful controller
- Could launch a year after the 360 in the states
- Could have a $500 price tag
3876  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 02, 2005, 06:28:42 PM
That looks pretty cool!
3877  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 02, 2005, 04:21:58 PM
Here is a more accurate launch list:

Launch Titles:

Perfect Dark Zero
Madden 2006
NBA 2K6
Full Auto
Ghost Recon 3
Tiger Woods 2006
NBA Live 2006
ESIV: Oblivion
Project Gotham Racing 3
Kameo
Dead or Alive 4
Tony Hawks American Wasteland
Saints Row
Final Fantasy XI
Call of Duty 2
SSX 4

I see several must buys for me in there:

Oblivion
DOA 4
PGR3
Madden 2006
Tiger Woods 2006
Ghost Recon 3


Maybes:

Kameo
Full Auto
Saints Row
NBA2k6 or NBA Live
Perfect Dark Zero
3878  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 02, 2005, 11:16:50 AM
Full Auto and Saints Row are also launch titles.

The launch title list that AgtFox made isn't very accurate, don't base your purchase of an Xbox 360 on it.
3879  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 02, 2005, 03:08:58 AM
Test Drive Unlimited has been delayed until Early 2006.

Call of Duty 2 is going to be a launch title. DOA4 and Tiger Woods 2006 are also supposed to be launch titles. As is Final Fantasy XI.

NBA 2K6 and NBA Live are going to launch with the system as well.
3880  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 01, 2005, 06:52:22 PM
Quote from: "AgtFox"
From what I've read.

Launch Titles:

Kameo
Perfect Dark Zero
Madden 06
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (GR3)
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
Test Drive Unlimited
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland
SSX 4 (simply because it will be out before the 360)

"Launch Window" Titles:

Oblivion
PGR3 (may not be a launch game)


OXM says that they have learned that Oblivion will be a day 1 launch title.
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