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8641  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 2 -bucket of kfc to go on: May 14, 2008, 11:02:25 PM

Quote from: Brendan on May 14, 2008, 09:18:49 PM

Quote from: Unagi on May 14, 2008, 08:29:50 PM

Quote from: Brendan on May 14, 2008, 03:58:26 PM

Alright, so it's actually fortunate that 12 was the first cylon killed, yes?
Actually, I'd say - No.  He exploded and there is a pretty good chance he took out Athena, if not - he took our numbers down.  We wanted to kill him last - or Helo-shoot him... Any other result is #12 doing what #12 was designed to do - and he wasn't designed for good.

Regardless of whether Harkonis was contacted on the first night by the other two cylons, he knew who they were.  Consequently, his posts could be illustrative, right?  My presumption is that, yes, cylons are willing to vote for cylons in order to establish their bona fides as humans, but Harkonis withdrew a vote on rickfc that would eventually have killed rick in short order.  My guess would be that he had, in fact, been in contact with the other two - and that they decided they'd just wait until the evening to get rick because they knew he was Starbuck and couldn't self-protect.  So, they dedicated themselves to either finding another patsy (perhaps pr0ner).  When it became clear that Harkonis was under suspicion, they just took the easy way out of sacrificing him to take out the presumed Athena.  I would also guess that at least one other cylon voted for Harkonis.

This is, I admit, somewhat of an intuitive leap.

Quote from: Unagi

Quote from: Brendan on May 14, 2008, 03:58:26 PM

Even though he took out pr0ner (who, as Austin suspects, was probably Athena), he's the only guy in the game who knew who all three bad guys were from the start.
I'm not seeing the value in eliminating the 1 bad guy that knew who all 3 were... but OK...

I just meant that we could attempt to infer who the other two were from Harkonis' posting history, whereas if we'd killed one of the "normal" cylons, we couldn't assume that they'd have known who #12 was.

Quote from: Unagi

Quote from: Brendan on May 14, 2008, 03:58:26 PM

He declared an interest in killing usulofdoom, attempted to implicate chaosraven, argued with Austin, and speculated that Helo should shoot Scoop.  I guess that reduces the suspicion level on at least a few of those guys.  I want to go through and see if there's anyone he didn't interact with at all.
No no no no..  The very last thing that does, is reduce the suspicion level on the people he wanted to kill.  Hello??

I guess that depends on how subtle you think Harkonis was.

 Bring your own!
8642  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 14, 2008, 10:16:03 PM
RP-PvP players, plan on meeting on Asgard for the server.

I'll have a forum setup at www.harkonis.com for us and we can get together to put the guild up.
8643  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 14, 2008, 07:16:31 PM

Quote from: Mikagami on May 14, 2008, 05:36:42 PM

Hey Hark, is your group of PvP server players the same or a part of the group that Crux mentioned in the Wanderers recruitment post?
If they are separate groups it might be worthwhile to connect with him on that so we can roll on the same server to increase the ranks.

Also, this might be a little early into it, but have people started picking classes yet?
Just want to get a feel for what direction the PvP folks will each go in so that I can play the "fill the gap" class.

Downloaded the early access yesterday and ran the install while I was away at work.
I must agree, that was some snazzy fast client download as somebody mentioned earlier.
Patched it up this morning and it looks like it's ready to go for Saturday.

It's a separate group right now, but I'm working on getting us together.  At the least on the same server and hopefully in the same guild.  That would give us around 20 people which is pretty close to the minimum for the guild town and activities.

Confirmed classes that I know of as mains are an assassin, guardian and demonologist.  Could use one of the healing classes and pretty much anything else will do.
8644  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: In only 3 years I have already become the stereotypical "bad husband"... on: May 13, 2008, 07:16:41 PM

Quote from: Gratch on May 13, 2008, 05:04:57 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on May 13, 2008, 04:58:35 PM

... friend's dog's birthday party on Sunday...

Seriously?

+1, I'd say anyone who can throw/hold/attend one of these has a lot of time on their hands slywink

That's ok though, they can make fun of me for gaming. 
8645  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: GTA IV Multiplayer on: May 13, 2008, 07:12:56 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 13, 2008, 04:44:22 PM

Quote from: USMC Kato on May 13, 2008, 04:41:25 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on May 13, 2008, 04:38:17 PM

I also liked Harkonis's comment of "when did pr0ner get good at this?"

Yeah, you were pretty much "Ice Man" last night, making little to no mistakes.  Good Times

and today he kills him in the BSG game... coincidence?

Maybe
8646  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 13, 2008, 02:36:40 PM

Quote from: Austin on May 13, 2008, 02:33:14 PM

For the record, the faux emo stuff only solidified my Hark vote.   nod

good, 'twas the point.   Bring your own!
8647  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 13, 2008, 02:24:35 PM

Quote from: stessier on May 30, 2008, 04:20:12 AM

eek

That was not the outcome I was expecting.
Bring your own!
8648  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 13, 2008, 02:09:05 PM
 Bring your own!
8649  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 13, 2008, 01:41:26 PM
Vote Harkonis
8650  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: LEEEEEEROY JENKINS on: May 13, 2008, 01:06:54 PM
It was fun playing at the WoW TCG Nationals and you'd hear it being yelled all day because one of the cards requires you to yell 'Leeeeeeroy Jenkins!' in order for the card's ability to work.

Made an otherwise fairly serious day pretty funny.
8651  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Vlad & Niko on Saturday Night Live on: May 13, 2008, 12:56:29 PM

Quote from: rrmorton on May 13, 2008, 02:58:38 AM

I got it, but thought it was incredibly not funny too. A real missed opportunity. The Daily Show reporting live from Liberty City was much better.

On the bright side, the "murder mystery at the 70s game show" sketch was uncommonly creative. And Leboeuf freakin NAILED Doug Henning. <twinklefingers/mouth the word "magic"> Hilarious.

I missed the show and can't find the Henning clip anywhere.  My google-fu fails me. frown

I remember being a fan of Doug Henning as a child even though I saw through a lot of the tricks.  We went to one of his shows when I was <5 and I called him on it and it was a bit embarassing overall smile  He pulled a coin from my ear and I said loudly that I saw it in his hand before.  oops!
8652  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Missing Account? on: May 13, 2008, 12:50:52 PM

Quote from: papasmurff on May 13, 2008, 12:49:57 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 13, 2008, 12:04:02 AM

don't worry folks, I'm still here!

Damn I thought that we had finally gotten rid of you!!

+1  guess I shouldn't be so optimistic next time.
8653  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 13, 2008, 12:40:09 PM

Quote from: Austin on May 13, 2008, 12:26:04 PM

Quote from: stessier on May 13, 2008, 09:48:15 AM

Quote from: Purge on May 13, 2008, 02:18:05 AM

I'm not convinced about hark. The summary does not show proof. It is a nice summary though. slywink


If you are waiting for incontrovertible proof on Day 1, you're never going to get to vote.

Not saying you should be convinced by what Unagi posted (personally, I think it shows absolutely nothing), but you may want to reconsider the standard by which you place your vote.

You didn't vote much the last time you were a wolf either, did you?

I also didn't find Unagi's write-up to provide anything incriminating fwiw.  He either missed what I thought were oddities or he didn't find them odd.  /shrug. 

That would be because what I posted had nothing to do with the game and I was just being social and you apparently think the way I'm social is an oddity. Tongue

Day one is boring, it was getting on my nerves so I was chatting. 
8654  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 13, 2008, 06:22:50 AM
I'm back on the pvp side of the fence now.

We've got about 5 people, possibly 6 right now.  If we can get a core group of around 10 we should be fine to start with until we hook up with more in-game.
8655  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 13, 2008, 01:01:50 AM

Quote from: stessier on May 12, 2008, 11:54:03 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on May 12, 2008, 11:23:50 PM

I think Hark is being railroaded

soulchilde

If this is true, why not vote for one of the bandwagoners?

seconded
8656  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 13, 2008, 12:32:51 AM

Quote from: drifter on May 13, 2008, 12:02:03 AM

Evenon standard servers there will be PvP.  There are only so many locations for the player cities and there is other forms of PvP like battlegrounds.

I don't want to have to level up to start doing pvp, and I don't want to have to stop levelling up (minigames) to get my pvp either. frown
8657  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 11:33:42 PM
I'm going to stick my claim until I carry this cross all the way out.  While I know it's better for a common citizen to get lynched than a special, the fact that I'm citizen and proner seems hell bent that I'm not is still pretty conspicious.

I guess this is what you get for trying to talk and be social in these types of games.  I notice the quiet ones have the least votes.
8658  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 11:28:18 PM
the second game 2 above should be game 3 btw, I'm just a bit ticked and not typing properly  retard
8659  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 11:26:20 PM
heh, guess I never learn.  Looks like my third game I'll be lynched just like my first game. 

game 1 - talked too much but didn't say anything in particular, got lynched - was wolf
game 2 - didn't talk very much at all, eaten first evening - was villager
game 2 - talked too much but didn't say anything in particular, got lynched - was villager

Now I just hope next game I can be a bad guy and test not talking and see if I still get gang banged on first day/night.  Then I can safely say these games aren't for me and play my xbox more.
8660  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 11:22:06 PM

Quote from: Austin on May 12, 2008, 08:31:10 PM

Harkonis

ok austin, we understand you vote me.  there's no reason to be a dick about it and keep voting again and again.  finger
8661  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 12, 2008, 11:07:58 PM
I'm slowly starting to consider playing on the standard server just to play with all my friends.

Hopefully we can get enough pvp'rs to make it worthwhile.

8662  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 12, 2008, 11:05:24 PM

Quote from: skystride on May 12, 2008, 08:24:16 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on May 12, 2008, 05:02:51 PM

other than where you spawn, what's really different about this and shadowbane?  both were ffa pvp.

A lot of things, they actually thought about PvP and consequences.  SB kept track of who killed you so you can get your revenge.  They actually put some thought into stealh, SB had classes that could hunt down stealthers.   There was a point to PK, i.e. you get loot.  Also outside of the city/mine fighting, there was also a point to fight for rune drops.  What are you fighting for in AoC?  PvP xp which currently has no effect.  Leveling up was super easy in SB so you couldn't really say that hardcore players have a huge advantage over you.  And with regards to that last point, I know you personally are pretty hardcore at these games and will likely shoot up to 80 very quickly on the FFA server (any vacation coming up? slywink).  For others who take a more casual approach, they are going to be left behind and have to deal with higher level pwning them as they try to catchup.  What you didn't experience in the FFA open beta event is level 80s coming in and pwning everyone at quest hubs.  Sure it might be fun to get revenge if you are of comparative level but that's only fun for those that have ground to 80.
 
Instance switching to hide from PKs seems like a bit of a hack.  In SB you had 360 degrees of movement but AoC is much more linear which means it's easy to control the entire zone by just watching some choke points.  This would be very hard to do in SB.  I suppose the ganker mentality people might actually consider these bottlenecks a good feature.

Anyway, I understand why you guys want to play in FFA, I'm just trying to explain why AoC implementation (or lack thereof) of FFA ruleset has no appeal to me personally.  The only positive aspect of FFA, i.e. the added element of danger in PvE is obviously not as important to me as it is to some of you guys.

I'll agree with a lot of these, but there are classes that can hunt down stealthers, just not with tracking.  Rangers get a flare that uncovers and ignites stealthers in an area.  Even without it, Kato was unstealthing people all day just by hearing their footsteps.  Instance switching is indeed pretty lame. 
8663  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Basketball MMO, in the same vein as Goal Line Blitz on: May 12, 2008, 11:02:58 PM
I'm in, need a team though.

If you already have one I'll join yours.
8664  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan - Euro guild on: May 12, 2008, 10:55:11 PM
sadly the EU client and the US client are not compatible and automatically hit their own servers.
8665  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Forum Performance? on: May 12, 2008, 10:52:53 PM
This was just too funny smile
8666  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 05:11:09 PM

Quote from: stessier on May 12, 2008, 05:06:44 PM

Brendan, why is your vote still on rickfc? 

rickfc, why is your vote still on ravenvii?

It doesn't look like anyone else is going to join me in my vote against Usul.  I still think there is something not right there and I think we are better off finding out about it today.  But I'm useless sitting out here in left field, so withdraw UsulofDoom.

vote Harkonis

After putting that vote count together, he is definitely not Athena (as he came out and said).  But I think a cylon may vote that way.  And if I turn out to be wrong, well pr0ner makes a good Day 2 test.



oh how the mighty have fallen. frown

I would vote usul with you.  I'm only voting hunches anyway, no proof yet.  I just think proner is up to something.
8667  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 05:07:21 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 12, 2008, 04:53:35 PM

Hark could have left his vote on rickFC; he would have had the kill.

That doesn't make him human, or correct. Just putting it out there. He may have wanted to be first off the boat so he's less likely to garner suspicion.

I really didn't want to be a part of killing starbuck and saving the cylons the work.  make them take him tonight, hope we get one today.  
8668  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 05:04:37 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 12, 2008, 04:46:43 PM

12 can seek out the other two at their whim, correct? so the 12 pairing with six/cavil are possible, but it's at 12's discretion (as I understand it).

As of right now I understand that balthar/six would not have paired cuz we'd have been notified, right? If that's the case then that leaves us with:

spec/spec

six/cavil
six/12
cavil/12

a cyclon who's got buy-in from a stupid person
or a cyclon who's latched onto a "decision maker" to let suspicion build on someone without outing themselves.

as I read it 12 can't talk to either of the other cylons until they try to kill him at night.  So the pairing would have to either assume they found 12 the first night instead of starbuck, or CR following remus' lead because CR (as 12) knows remus is a cylon even if remus doesn't know CR is.

8669  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 12, 2008, 05:02:51 PM

Quote from: skystride on May 12, 2008, 04:05:56 PM

I've been playing on the closed beta FFA server almost exclusively (almost level 30 now) but I just don't see the appeal.  Basically no thought is put into creating this mode, it's just a simple switch to turn PvP on in most areas.  If they design a game with FFA in mind then I am completely in favor of it (i.e. Shadowbane).  It's not the ganking that bothers me, I've had no problem dealing with it especially since stealth is the uber and I can even get away from level 80 characters.  Some say it adds to realism, is spawn camping that realistic?  I love PvP however so I'm hoping the standard server offers some good goal oriented PvP action.

other than where you spawn, what's really different about this and shadowbane?  both were ffa pvp.

spawn camping is a sad part of any ffa game and I wish they had some sort of timer of invuln.  They will probably add one eventually, but even as it is you can often stealth and get away.  All classes can stealth well enough to run away from a spawn.  you can also choose from multiple spawn points so you don't have to always spawn where it's camped.

Kato and I were never held back by spawn camping, never had a problem with doing a quest and had a great amount of extra fun watching over our shoulders while doing quests and while grinding.  Our time in the instance where nobody can sneak in and we didn't have to watch our backs (or couldn't sneak up on someone) was really boring, but good xp.

There is definitely the potential to be camped and ganked, and I would not recommend it for most people especially people who would have to solo.  (though I solo a lot, I'm a lot more masochistic than most slywink

I was just a bit surprised that people that loved SB didn't flock to it is all, the dynamics of xp'ing while keeping an eye out is very much the same and it's the first game in awhile that feels 'dangerous'.

I wish there was a stronger pvp death penalty though, as it is you lose nothing but time which means gankers don't risk much by trying.  Of course the other side of that coin means people that get ganked aren't really losing anything of value and when they die can just spawn somewhere else.

8670  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 04:43:05 PM
heh, looking at my own list

I wonder if we have

austin/proner  as six/baltar
remus/cr  as cavil/12

that would explain a hell of a lot to me.
8671  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 04:40:06 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 12, 2008, 04:32:22 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 12, 2008, 03:14:36 PM

Quote from: chaosraven on May 12, 2008, 01:40:18 PM

Purge

(Geez guys if you had been on the ball we could have lynched Remus while he was away for the weekend...)


Throwaway comment meant to distract. Why are you voting for me? Nice work.

He hasn't responded yet. I then follow up commenting on Austin's accusation of CR saying it's plausible.

I get two baseless votes, it seems like partners trying to get people to buy in. I'm more suspicious of CR since you've at least provided an explanation, even if it didn't tie into me directly.

I'm concerned with all the pairings here though. I doubt we're going to see those specials come forward (like ravenvii's apparent specialist partner). It's too early in the game yet and people are going to keep their cards close to their chest.

The pairings greatly confuse me.  There should only be a couple possible pairings.  six/cavil  six/baltar specialist/specialist  and that's it until 12 is exposed in which case you have the 12/cavil 12/six options

We have way more pairing going on than is possible by class roles, especially if raven is assumed to be a specialist.

remus/cr
austin/proner

those are the two most prominent pairings and the only 'Good' pairing would be ravenvii and someone else.

I deduct that one of these two sets of two is six/cavil

Since Athena would not be able to pair up with someone through pm, and austin and proner seem very much on the same page even with little public talk, I'd have to reassert that I think proner is faking athena and proner/austin is six/cavil
8672  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 04:27:44 PM
heh, Austin has voted for me 3 times.  Seems to put an awful lot of faith in proners words.  ninja
8673  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 04:24:50 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on May 12, 2008, 04:17:00 PM

Quote from: rickfc on May 12, 2008, 04:04:06 PM

I'm bored with this.  Will someone just let me know when you decide to shoot someone?

If you're bored, vote for Harkonis, and nab thyself a Cylon.

Here he goes once more with his 'I'm 100% sure' attitude.

Austin seems to back up proner everytime, but if proner was athena then they can't pm.

The only way I can see that proner can be so sure I'm what he wants gone AND austin can be sure is if they are the two cylons.

Remus, I do see what you're saying about raven now, and I agree that odds are high he's a specialist then. 

I'll come right out and say it though, I'm just a citizen.  I have no data one way or the other, but obviously proner does.
8674  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 04:07:13 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 12, 2008, 03:59:35 PM

Remus, why would you take Ravens word over mine? He was the one slipping into the voting with no reason, so you're basically defending that behaviour. Why does he have passive ability, because he sounded angry even though HIS schedule apparently conflicts with the game and WE need to hold him in higher regard for it?

Everything you said exonerates ravenvii; it in no way condemns me. Because I level an accusation at someone for odd behaviour makes me guilty of the accusation? It's like you're triggercutting by proxy.

Do you have pm conversations with Raven? is there something we're missing, Six?

I hate to agree that I don't know how to take Raven's absence.  It's a planned absence in a game that had people waiting on the sidelines.  Seems odd.  Not odd enough for him to be the first to be lynched, but odd enough that I'm keeping him on my short list. 

Of course, if I get a few more votes my list might be mighty short indeed.
8675  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 04:05:07 PM
Knowing that I'm not a cylon, and seeing just how adamant proner is that I am and how willing he is to play that card, I have to think he's faking Athena.

I'd say it appears that proner and austin are the two cylons and are in cohoots with each other.

Thanks for the defense Remus, though I'm not sure what you saw either.  The more this day drags on the more clues I seem to be missing and apparently I'm the one posting them.  retard

withdraw scoop
vote proner
8676  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 03:58:43 PM

Quote from: stessier on May 12, 2008, 03:08:13 PM

Quote from: Austin on May 12, 2008, 03:03:53 PM

The Purge vote just seems to be a nudge away from Hark, I dunno.  Almost like, they just want him to have one more night.

Hark - Six
Remus/CR - Cavil/12

Not sure by any stretch but it smells like Remus wants Hark alive for at least one more night and CR jumped to agreement so quickly.  Both with votes to distract from the Harkwagon without actually defending Hark.

Agreed, it is weird.  But Chaos is better than that.  Why would he be so obvious?  Not saying it is not how you described it.

And this happened once before: rickfc and Harkonis voting for ravenvii.  If rickfc really is Starbuck, why was he so trusting of Harkonis to switch so quickly?  And just how many sets of people do we have co-ordinating with each other???  Seems like we have too many people too trusting of others.



This is another good point, so far I've been accused of being teamed up with 4 different people.  Get your stories straight, Tongue
8677  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 03:54:13 PM

Quote from: Austin on May 12, 2008, 02:13:54 PM

Or did pr0ner make mine for me? 

You're both confusing me and obviously working together, and I never saw either of you make any point about me other than 'he's odd and posting oddities'.
8678  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: "W" on: May 12, 2008, 02:02:39 PM
I'm not a Bush supporter, but I think it's in poor taste to throw it to the theaters pre-election. 
8679  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 01:53:48 PM
I'll wait until Purge has 7 votes to switch to him, just to make Stes happy  ninja
8680  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: S.Darko? Say it ain't so on: May 12, 2008, 01:26:37 PM
Ceekay had mentioned this to me the other night and I was just baffled.  I loved the movie (hell, I bought a Frank the Bunny outfit) but man, where do they go for a sequal?

I'd understand if they made a movie about another case like his, that might be cool.  I loved the story of the soldier in the field killed by the arrow that went through a portal like the engine in DD.

But how do you make a good movie about the sister at this point?
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