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8601  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 04:43:05 PM
heh, looking at my own list

I wonder if we have

austin/proner  as six/baltar
remus/cr  as cavil/12

that would explain a hell of a lot to me.
8602  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 04:40:06 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 12, 2008, 04:32:22 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 12, 2008, 03:14:36 PM

Quote from: chaosraven on May 12, 2008, 01:40:18 PM

Purge

(Geez guys if you had been on the ball we could have lynched Remus while he was away for the weekend...)


Throwaway comment meant to distract. Why are you voting for me? Nice work.

He hasn't responded yet. I then follow up commenting on Austin's accusation of CR saying it's plausible.

I get two baseless votes, it seems like partners trying to get people to buy in. I'm more suspicious of CR since you've at least provided an explanation, even if it didn't tie into me directly.

I'm concerned with all the pairings here though. I doubt we're going to see those specials come forward (like ravenvii's apparent specialist partner). It's too early in the game yet and people are going to keep their cards close to their chest.

The pairings greatly confuse me.  There should only be a couple possible pairings.  six/cavil  six/baltar specialist/specialist  and that's it until 12 is exposed in which case you have the 12/cavil 12/six options

We have way more pairing going on than is possible by class roles, especially if raven is assumed to be a specialist.

remus/cr
austin/proner

those are the two most prominent pairings and the only 'Good' pairing would be ravenvii and someone else.

I deduct that one of these two sets of two is six/cavil

Since Athena would not be able to pair up with someone through pm, and austin and proner seem very much on the same page even with little public talk, I'd have to reassert that I think proner is faking athena and proner/austin is six/cavil
8603  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 04:27:44 PM
heh, Austin has voted for me 3 times.  Seems to put an awful lot of faith in proners words.  ninja
8604  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 04:24:50 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on May 12, 2008, 04:17:00 PM

Quote from: rickfc on May 12, 2008, 04:04:06 PM

I'm bored with this.  Will someone just let me know when you decide to shoot someone?

If you're bored, vote for Harkonis, and nab thyself a Cylon.

Here he goes once more with his 'I'm 100% sure' attitude.

Austin seems to back up proner everytime, but if proner was athena then they can't pm.

The only way I can see that proner can be so sure I'm what he wants gone AND austin can be sure is if they are the two cylons.

Remus, I do see what you're saying about raven now, and I agree that odds are high he's a specialist then. 

I'll come right out and say it though, I'm just a citizen.  I have no data one way or the other, but obviously proner does.
8605  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 04:07:13 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 12, 2008, 03:59:35 PM

Remus, why would you take Ravens word over mine? He was the one slipping into the voting with no reason, so you're basically defending that behaviour. Why does he have passive ability, because he sounded angry even though HIS schedule apparently conflicts with the game and WE need to hold him in higher regard for it?

Everything you said exonerates ravenvii; it in no way condemns me. Because I level an accusation at someone for odd behaviour makes me guilty of the accusation? It's like you're triggercutting by proxy.

Do you have pm conversations with Raven? is there something we're missing, Six?

I hate to agree that I don't know how to take Raven's absence.  It's a planned absence in a game that had people waiting on the sidelines.  Seems odd.  Not odd enough for him to be the first to be lynched, but odd enough that I'm keeping him on my short list. 

Of course, if I get a few more votes my list might be mighty short indeed.
8606  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 04:05:07 PM
Knowing that I'm not a cylon, and seeing just how adamant proner is that I am and how willing he is to play that card, I have to think he's faking Athena.

I'd say it appears that proner and austin are the two cylons and are in cohoots with each other.

Thanks for the defense Remus, though I'm not sure what you saw either.  The more this day drags on the more clues I seem to be missing and apparently I'm the one posting them.  retard

withdraw scoop
vote proner
8607  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 03:58:43 PM

Quote from: stessier on May 12, 2008, 03:08:13 PM

Quote from: Austin on May 12, 2008, 03:03:53 PM

The Purge vote just seems to be a nudge away from Hark, I dunno.  Almost like, they just want him to have one more night.

Hark - Six
Remus/CR - Cavil/12

Not sure by any stretch but it smells like Remus wants Hark alive for at least one more night and CR jumped to agreement so quickly.  Both with votes to distract from the Harkwagon without actually defending Hark.

Agreed, it is weird.  But Chaos is better than that.  Why would he be so obvious?  Not saying it is not how you described it.

And this happened once before: rickfc and Harkonis voting for ravenvii.  If rickfc really is Starbuck, why was he so trusting of Harkonis to switch so quickly?  And just how many sets of people do we have co-ordinating with each other???  Seems like we have too many people too trusting of others.



This is another good point, so far I've been accused of being teamed up with 4 different people.  Get your stories straight, Tongue
8608  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 03:54:13 PM

Quote from: Austin on May 12, 2008, 02:13:54 PM

Or did pr0ner make mine for me? 

You're both confusing me and obviously working together, and I never saw either of you make any point about me other than 'he's odd and posting oddities'.
8609  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: "W" on: May 12, 2008, 02:02:39 PM
I'm not a Bush supporter, but I think it's in poor taste to throw it to the theaters pre-election. 
8610  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 01:53:48 PM
I'll wait until Purge has 7 votes to switch to him, just to make Stes happy  ninja
8611  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: S.Darko? Say it ain't so on: May 12, 2008, 01:26:37 PM
Ceekay had mentioned this to me the other night and I was just baffled.  I loved the movie (hell, I bought a Frank the Bunny outfit) but man, where do they go for a sequal?

I'd understand if they made a movie about another case like his, that might be cool.  I loved the story of the soldier in the field killed by the arrow that went through a portal like the engine in DD.

But how do you make a good movie about the sister at this point?
8612  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: CONGRATULATIONS ROCKSTAR!!!! GTA:IV 500MLN. on: May 12, 2008, 12:39:25 PM

Quote from: Misguided on May 12, 2008, 12:21:25 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 10, 2008, 09:01:06 PM

Pete, believe it or not, I'm not talking about you.

I think you've transposed the alcohol comment on yourself

Well, you were directly quoting a post of his that mentioned drinking.

Generally speaking with regard to the thread (not directed at Purge),
just because one individual hasn't experienced a phenomenon described
by another poster, doesn't mean it isn't real and important for them.
The tone of some of the posts is rather dismissive.

It's an interesting discussion, though, and makes me wonder:
Why haven't we seen a GTA feature film? I think having more movies that are based
on game properties could go a long way toward creating more "legitimacy" in the minds
of many people.

Because Uwe Boll's track record scared away most of the decent directors from game movies.
8613  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 12, 2008, 11:49:14 AM
http://feats.goonheim.com

There's a feat calculator to help you plan characters and waste time at work slywink
8614  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: No one talking about the new Gears of War 2 footage? on: May 12, 2008, 11:44:56 AM
I think chainsaw battles should be based on Gods of War type minigame sequences and whoever gets the random sequence done faster wins.  Still frantic, still speed, but takes a bit more skill and thought than one button repeated.
8615  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: GTA IV Multiplayer on: May 12, 2008, 11:41:05 AM
We decided to hurry up and get all the MP out of our systems before you decided to join us since you were on the PS3.  Looks like it worked too!  ninja

I could spend all night doing random races with 2-16 people in this game, and until Conan comes out this weekend, that's probably what I'll be doing slywink
8616  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 12, 2008, 11:18:47 AM

Quote from: Gryndyl on May 12, 2008, 11:03:02 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on May 12, 2008, 09:01:46 AM

I'd like to add that anyone not planning on playing on an open PVP server should check out the Wanderers.  Great group of guys to play with and they should have good numbers for the end game sieges.  ( just try not to get bored doing quests slywink )

link?

either one thread above this, or one thread below this ;P
8617  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC - Wanderers now Recruiting!! (Standard Server) on: May 12, 2008, 11:18:17 AM
There seemed to be plenty of instances if you wanted to hide and grind, and if you love to explore, just choose a stealth class or bring lots of stamina potions and you should be fine.
8618  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 10:37:42 AM
heh, my complaint about you misreading may have been due to me misreading yours slywink

Anyway, I took my vote off rick when it came to light that he might be/probably is starbuck.  You somehow have a problem with me withdrawing a vote to lynch a probable starbuck?  Now THAT's an oddity.
8619  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 12, 2008, 10:35:54 AM
Stes, now you've made me even more suspicious.  If you look I voted for rick much earlier and I WITHDREW my vote as soon as I saw how close he was to getting lynched since I was no longer sure if it was a good choice.

You read them out of order, or read them in order and posted them out of order to make me look bad.

This is the type of thing I was talking about is being controlling.  It's not just pointing out facts, it's pointing out facts and twisting them to get your point.

I've withdrawn votes on two different people as they got near 8 once there was doubt as to their guilt.  I haven't jumped on to try to get anyone lynched but I will once we have some decent info.
8620  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: CONGRATULATIONS ROCKSTAR!!!! GTA:IV 500MLN. on: May 12, 2008, 10:29:39 AM
I'd also like to add that I work at a place where exactly zero of my 50+ co-workers are gamers, but I was perfectly fine with taking a week off to play WoW TCG at the pro level and tell them what I was doing and I'm taking time off when Warhammer comes out and they know that as well.

I don't run around yelling 'games are great, if you don't like them you're not!' but I'm not going to hide what I do in my spare time, or lie to my employers.  If I got passed over for a promotion I obviously should have, I shouldn't be working there and would look elsewhere.  I wouldn't dwell on whether they hate my gaming or not.

I'm not a conformist though and I'm pretty jaded about professional environments anyway since they are mostly about posturing and pointing fingers while covering your ass instead of actually communicating, dividing up work and getting shit down efficiently.
8621  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: CONGRATULATIONS ROCKSTAR!!!! GTA:IV 500MLN. on: May 12, 2008, 10:22:44 AM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on May 09, 2008, 07:34:49 PM

Quote from: Ridah on May 09, 2008, 07:24:20 PM

Sorry man but that's just a fancy way of saying you are insecure. If the situation were that you would actually be fired or demoted due to the fact that your boss or co-workers know you play video games then I fully understand. But if you're afraid of what they'll think of you on a personal level for playing video games then you are insecure about it. I think that, if anything, GTA4 will go a long way to show that video games aren't all about skinny men who look like women and wield huge swords or a fat plummers who saves princesses.

I think you'll find that what people think of you on a personal level has a very real effect on your job evaluation.  That may not be how it should be, but that's certainly how it is in a lot of industries. 

I value my own self image enough that I'd rather make less and be myself than put up a front to make more.  If you can't be yourself at your workplace and have to hide one of your primary hobbies, that's pretty hard for me to grasp.  Personally that would drive me crazy.
8622  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 12, 2008, 09:01:46 AM
I'd like to add that anyone not planning on playing on an open PVP server should check out the Wanderers.  Great group of guys to play with and they should have good numbers for the end game sieges.  ( just try not to get bored doing quests slywink )
8623  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 12, 2008, 09:00:29 AM

Quote from: USMC Kato on May 11, 2008, 10:38:31 PM

Quote from: Arclight on May 11, 2008, 09:49:47 PM

link was put up on the IGN boards..for early access...http://funcom.cachefly.net/AoC-US-EarlyAccess.exe

Right on Arclight! Downloading the whole client now and it should be done in about 6 hours (13.7 gig download)

 Had a blast playing with Harkonis during the FFA PVP Beta Ending Event.  It was just the two of us, but we pretty much destroyed anyone we came across  icon_twisted icon_twisted 

Was awesome fun, I definitely have to say that after playing the FFA portion of beta, I'd be downright bored without the open world pvp.  It was great fun with Kato and I watching each other's backs while questing and xp'ing.  Added a great deal of excitement to the game.  Very few frustrating 'gank' moments and usually it was just in the starter towns where the average joe figures he could/would/should attack anything that moves.

Would love to have more people for the pvp experience on the PVP-RP server come launch.  Let Kato or myself know and we'll get you in the guild slywink  All classes welcome and as long as we play together any class is viable.  

If you will be playing solo often I'd suggest avoiding Necromancers since they seem to be pretty hard to keep alive solo in the pvp environment at lower levels.

9hrs left on my download.  I hope to see many of you on Sat.

Kato, did you decide on a main character for release?
8624  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC - Wanderers now Recruiting!! (Standard Server) on: May 12, 2008, 08:54:46 AM
I'd like to offer the PVP alternative as well. 

I'd really like to play with you guys and miss playing with all of you, but after playing the OB in both pve and pvp modes, the pve was quite boring to me.

We've got a group of 3 so far for PVP-RP, please let me know if anyone is interested in either pvp server with an alt, or would rather do pvp than pve. 

I'm surprised after the excitement that was the Wanderers in Shadowbane that more people didn't want to do the pvp thing.  When OB turned to FFA PvP the game played just like it.

I'll probably have an alt on the pve server just to see you guys, but my time will mostly be on the PvP-RP server.
8625  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Creationists visit the natural history museum on: May 12, 2008, 01:06:35 AM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on May 08, 2008, 02:38:39 AM

Stop making fun of Christianity, let's talk about Scientology instead.slywink


nah, scientology is too much like a science fiction movie, not nearly absurd enough.  Christianity on the other hand, is closer to a horror movie and much more juicy.  ninja
8626  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: May 12, 2008, 12:50:47 AM

Quote from: The Meal on May 07, 2008, 08:39:34 PM

Quote from: Octavious230 on May 07, 2008, 08:19:36 PM

Only thing from OO that I would be really sad to lose is my thread about when my daughter was born. It's pretty cool to read back and see what I was doing at the time.
Yeah, I'd love to do that with GG and getting married.

I'd love to get married slywink
8627  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: May 12, 2008, 12:49:52 AM

Quote from: Remus West on May 07, 2008, 07:25:29 PM

Quote from: SpaceLord on May 07, 2008, 07:19:13 PM

Quote from: Huw the Poo on May 07, 2008, 06:41:35 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 07, 2008, 06:17:41 PM

well poo the huw  icon_twisted

Heh.  You wouldn't miss me anyway, since I never participated in the off-topic areas.  Hell, I had well over 1,000 posts but I bet nobody even knew who I was. smile

I knew the Poo.
I did too but I am not sure why as I rarely exited the EBG or FGF.

BTW, am I the only one who thinks "mother mother" everytime they read Spacelord's name?

You definitely are not the only one.
8628  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 11, 2008, 09:53:45 PM
Withdraw Austin
Vote for Scoop

Lightning hit my house this morning, so I am without internet for the foreseeable future.  Posting from a friend's house right now.

Hope to have a new DSL modem ASAP
8629  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 10, 2008, 07:44:55 PM
btw, the NDA only covers 13-20 story content.  Not post 20 content now that it's in Open Beta

There is no longer a level cap in OB
8630  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (It's Golden!) on: May 10, 2008, 04:44:37 PM
The crash when opening the options menu is a known bug and the workaround is posted in the patch notes.
8631  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 09, 2008, 09:56:33 PM
We can always lynch raven the very next day after we learn of the treachery, I don't see that we lose anything by waiting.
8632  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 09, 2008, 09:43:50 PM

Quote from: chaosraven on May 09, 2008, 09:39:50 PM

Are we voting for ravenvii on the assumption that he is Baltar?



Is there a suspicion that he is?  Is this based on the 'am I evil or good' comment?

If the consensus is that there is a real possibility that he is Baltar, I'm not sure it's in our best interest to take him out this early since he's still on our side.

I'll withdraw  ravenvii and vote for Austin since he's now voted for me twice and hasn't given a reason either time.  This would be the trig theory again I guess slywink
8633  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 09, 2008, 09:40:32 PM

Quote from: newcastle on May 09, 2008, 09:37:55 PM

Quote from: Unagi on May 09, 2008, 09:13:31 PM

Quote from: chaosraven on May 09, 2008, 08:41:53 PM

I want this discussion from the ones who *weren't* voting for him because there really only should have been 2 reasons to NOT vote for him.
(1) Athena had checked him and received Human as result
(2) He is a Cylon and the others didn't want to finish him off. The hesitation should tell us something.
(3) His cries of "putting on make-up" and forecasting a "bitch-fight" if anyone else made a claim to Starbuck actually made some people (can I get a witness?) think: "My Gods, is he dropping hints at being Starbuck or Athena here??  Yeesh!"    I would like you to tell me why you didn't consider that at all...   I'l also point out that you seem to be fishing for Athena just there in your lists of the Only 2 Reasons why people wouldn't vote for Rickfc.

If he hadn't posted this:
Quote
Let's say for a moment that I'm a good guy special.  Why in blazes would I announce that when facing the possibility of death when in previous conversations, others who had voted for me weren't sure and were already on the verge of withdrawing their vote?  Don't you think that'd be a bad play on my part as a special?
I would have simply put him over with a vote... 

My hesitation was that it didn't seem like Rickfc appreciated the ramifications of dieing as a special without at least declaring it (being believed or not).
I dare say, I was totally correct - so frak off.   icon_wink

Unagi on point 3 - I saw that and made a mental note to myself...in essence thinking..."he wouldn't be that obvious would he?"

CR- i find the way you are leading this discussion to be odd. It seems as if you are painting the whole discussion as if he COULD BE EVIL - not the opposite...where HE COULD BE GOOD

I also find it odd that instead of giving him a bit of skeptical reason, and plowing into the people who did vote for him; you are dancing around the whole is he starbuck scenario....if he is starbuck....and i think he is.....why arent we looking at the folks who did vote for him?

Lets take that a step further...say that the cylons did attack Rickfc last night....wouldn't today be a GREAT day to try to vote him off, wouldn't we be doing their work? They know would know who he is...if that is the case....then you know that they would try to get him lynched today.

It really seems to me right now CR that you are fishing for something....and we are all looking for information, but I am uneasy where you are leading hte discussion here.

And again - i dont like the fact that you are discounting the skeptical category in your analysis of who DIDN"T vote for him and are trying to pigeon hole the folks who didn't vote for him.

This brings me back to my earlier post regarding the people who seem bent on suggesting which way we take things and who we lynch.  Granted some of them might just be naturally controlling.
8634  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 09, 2008, 09:21:38 PM
I find it mildy irritating that the people voting for me haven't said anything regarding their reasons.
8635  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 09, 2008, 09:18:26 PM

Quote from: Unagi on May 09, 2008, 08:44:51 PM

(1) Does a Starbuck counterclaim?
Actually, this is a really good and hard question.  I'm not sure there really is a right answer to this.
There are obvious reasons not to counter-claim (because a "real Starbuck" knows they would have made this play for that very reason - to out him, and knows that this "fake Starbuck" will eventually be called out on it... and there is not much danger to letting that happen... keeps you private...)
There are some good reasons to counter-claim (To get us a cylon, or perhaps to prevent a weird No-Kill confusion later, etc).
I am honestly not sure.  I am not Starbuck, but if I were - I really would be torn on this one.

(2) Is rickfc in danger of being killed tonight?
Not sure what the point of this question is.
Yes, if he's not a cylon, he's in grave danger tonight.
No, if he's a cylon - he won't be killed.

(3) What are our plans in the event he were to live til tomorrow?
(I presume this question is taken with the assumption of no counter-claim)
(Also, the answer to this grows in complexity if there is No Kill again tonight, right?)
I think perhaps we don't lynch him until he lives 2 nights?
If he lives tonight - it could mean that they actually did find #12 last night and they fear he can protect himself tonight.
If he lives tonight (and no one dies) - it could mean he was able to self-protect.
If he lives tonight (and no one dies) - it could mean that he just successfully forced the cylons to kill/discover him as Cylon#12, but hmmm - that would maybe be a thought.  I'd need to think about that scenarios some more.... That would mean that our first night's NoKill was not finding Cylone#12, but also not stumbling on Starbuck.  I'm sure I will be told later the odds of this are almost Nil.
I will be surprised if he lives though, so I'll think more about all of that if it happens.


(4) Should he act as Polish Minesweeper?
I will answer with the presumption that Rickfc is Starbuck and self-protected...
No - I already said this in reply to Harkonis, there is no way to tell if he uncovered a mine or if the mine came and hit him over the head with a brick.





I can't read the blue highlights at all on the dark background
8636  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 09, 2008, 08:36:13 PM

Quote from: chaosraven on May 09, 2008, 08:03:15 PM

Ok first - Harkonis - stop it, yer creepin' me out.

Let's reason thru the scenarios.

(1) Does a Starbuck counterclaim? Why or why not and under what circumstances?
(2) Is rickfc in danger of being killed tonight? If contested? If uncontested?
(3) What are our plans in the event he were to live til tomorrow?
(4) Should he act as Polish Minesweeper? Could we trust the results?



wth creeped you out?
8637  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 09, 2008, 07:59:46 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 09, 2008, 07:57:06 PM

Quote from: newcastle on May 09, 2008, 06:51:01 PM

The bandwagon on Rickfc

 - 1 Remus West ,
      2-  Austin- ,
         3-  Harkonis- ,
            4- Chaosraven- ,
               5- raven 7- ,
                 6- brendan- ,
                    7 - soulchilde-
                     

- harkonis then removes bringing KFC to 6

RICKFC now stands at 6

Two of those people(at least) are cyclons. The last may not have wanted the suspicion of pulling the trigger. The debate has gone on long enough that it wouldn't have been out of place for rickFC become the first victim.

Oh, and the likelyhood of rickfc being starbuck is about the same as him being 12 (1 in 12 for both). On top of that, he could have been protected due to his comment but that hinges on someone interpreting him calling for help and then choosing to trust his comment (1 in 12 based on a % less than 50). It is also just as likely that rickfc was not the target, and that someone else defended themselves or was discovered to be 12.

I'm not against taking rickfc out, but there's gotta be more to this than his flamboyant nature.

Oh, and bigger letters does not the truth make. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

Prove it Rick, shoot Raven 7. Tongue

starbuck can't shoot anyone Purge Tongue
8638  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 09, 2008, 07:56:47 PM
So would it be best for rickfc to name who he will protect tonight so that if he dies we have an idea who it may have been?
8639  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 09, 2008, 07:45:08 PM

Quote from: Remus West on May 09, 2008, 07:13:11 PM

Quote from: newcastle on May 09, 2008, 06:39:31 PM

It seems like the GT thing to do is to say you are X role here, even when you aren't. I think the lynch wagon is taking that bit out of proportion. If he was just kidding....then your argument falls flat out. I know we dont have a lot to go on, but he has reached 7 now, so I bet at least one person there is a wolf.
No it doesn't.  My thoughts are not based upon the idea of his being truthfull about being Helo (heck, I assume at this point he was lying or else he would have pulled his gun and backed us all off while we await his shot).  My thoughts are this....you are the Cylons looking to get rid of specials.  One, who has made the play before and been telling the truth, claims a role openly.  Do you pass on that chance?  I think not.  So he was either targeted IMO or Cylon.  What better target would there be for them on a blank first choice?

If whoever is Starbuck took rickfc at his word that he was Helo, isn't it possible that he was defended on the first night?
8640  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica Game- Day 1 -Everyone alive! on: May 09, 2008, 06:38:05 PM
Reasons are based on Remus' post.  If we have good odds that rickfc is either 12 or starbuck, I don't really want to lynch either.  lynch starbuck and we do their job for them since they would obviously take him out tonight if we don't.  Lynch 12 and he's gonna blow.  If rickfc lives tonight then remus was either completely wrong or rickfc IS 12 and we should shoot him with helo imo.

I just don't want to be on the band wagon that takes out starbuck and it does seem like we're heading that way.  
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