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8401  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Return to Everquest 2 on: June 18, 2008, 05:20:52 AM
Those of you playing on Venekor (the RP-PVP server) hit me up on one of my toons and we can get together.  I'll mentor down if need be.

Harkonis - 35 - assassin
Sinokrax - 13 - furry...er, fury
Ravina - 5 - - coercer
8402  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Spore Creature Creator to be released on June 17th (PICS!) on: June 17, 2008, 08:35:59 PM
When I start up the creature creator and try to load the ones I made already, it shows that I have 5 creatures in the left tab, but there aren't any displayed.  It seems everytime I shut down and restart the program it loses my creatures but remembers how many more I made. frown

I also don't seem to be able to add the png's to the game by dragging and dropping as shown.
8403  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (PVP related) on: June 17, 2008, 08:32:02 PM

Quote from: StriderGG on June 17, 2008, 06:54:50 PM

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I can't speak for anyone but myself - but my personal desire was just a system to make PvP meaningful. Nothing fancy, but instead pretty much what they advertised and which was partially enabled in beta. The system they've announced for end of june - which is the same system with the fugitive thing on top of it, is more than enough and I'm happy with that.

I see this term - "meaningful (or meaningless) PvP" - thrown around a lot, but I really don't understand it. What kind of a meaning people expect from PvP?

Is it about the 20 PvP levels? But then it becomes just a meaningless PvP grind. There was a PvP grind in WoW and people still said the PvP was meaningless there. And does PvP lose its meaning once you are lvl 20 in PvP?

Is it elimination of "unfair" ganking? Hordes of PvP players both in WoW and in AoC loudly complain against these kinds of systems, stating that the whole point of FFA PvP is the "FFA" part.

I see a meaning in Siege PvP or RvR PvP, but you don't have to play on FFA PvP to have this.

So that's a "meaningful PvP?"

For me in order for pvp to be meaningful you need both a goal to fight for (which WAR should have with the realm war aspect and the way the keeps and control of zones works) and you have to have accountability.  In AoC there is absolutely zero accountability in pvp.  If you die, you lose nothing.  If I get jumped by someone and have an 'amazing' battle and barely win against insurmountable odds, so what, they'll be back in about 20-30 seconds (or the first guy I killed will be back and start fighting me again while I fight the second and third).  Then if they kill me, so what, I'll be back in 30 seconds or so and I'll start fighting again.  Fights in AoC can literally go on forever because there is nothing you're losing.  There's no incentive to fight, but there's also no incentive to not fight.  There's no reason to be cautious and this is leading to some people just standing there if you are fighting them, they don't fight back because you aren't costing them anything.  It also leads to people that just continually harass knowing they will lose but they are costing you time in dealing with them instead of what you were trying to do.  It's really the worst of allt he systems. 

AoC WAS touted as having good endgame siege pvp and it's right there on the box.  IT simply doesn't exist in the game.  In addition to all the other complaints, apparently once you get a battlekeep up and running, you can't attack another battlekeep.  You can only attack a battlekeep if you have the ability to have a battlekeep but don't have one.  This means that eventually all the big guilds will have battlekeeps and won't be able to fight each other.  Pretty retarded.  Once you build a keep you can only do defenses and only against lesser guilds that don't have keeps already. 

It's really just a shame, not only are things not near a retail state regarding the programming and patching, but they aren't even at a retail state in the design process and still don't even know how they want things to be.  They haven't thought the game out to the end yet.

Another misc bug that I thought was amusing in how bad it was:  Some guy rolled a 0 on a Need roll, the item was given to a guy in the group who rolled Greed and when a GM was contacted he said that's how it works because the Greed guy rolled higher. O_o
8404  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan (PVP related) on: June 17, 2008, 11:16:13 AM

Quote from: Arclight on June 17, 2008, 11:07:26 AM

Ok I took a break from AoC a week or so ago. Don't gasp but I've never rolled up a character on a PvP server in any MMO.
But its time I tried it I think.

My main reason for not being interested before was how annoying it sounded. Trying to do quests getting killed by someone who is levels higher than you...that just didn't sound like fun.

But...I'm willing to see if Aoc is worth the effort in PvP.

Help me transition to this game style.

Is there a class in this game that seems best suited for PvP play and also questing and leveling?

I've played to the early 30's three classes......Guardian, Assassin, and Barbarian.

Any suggestions as to what class I should start on a PvP server?

At this stage, pvp in AoC is pretty irritating to me, but I'm an assassin slywink

Ranged abilities will help you greatly.

Keep in mind that until they change some things, there's no point to pvp on any of the servers though.
8405  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Spore Creature Creator to be released on June 17th (PICS!) on: June 17, 2008, 08:30:17 AM
Found it, but it doesn't look like it saved my three creations frown

I have a couple pics though.





and some animated





Weird how they flash, not sure what's wrong with that.

Anyway, the blue one is my 'anatomically correct' one, though it has parts of both genders.  I was feeling bored so I went ahead and did the juvenile thing I'm sure millions will do on release.  His breasts and penis are actually spitter and when you use the spit attack he shoots from all three.  It's amazing at 4am how funny that is to watch slywink

Looking forward to having all the parts available, I really like the Hyder though, wish I didn't have to redo it when the game comes out.
8406  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: See you all in 6-7 months!!! on: June 17, 2008, 04:37:53 AM

Quote from: morlac on June 17, 2008, 04:14:03 AM

We look forward to hearing from you, be safe!

My uncle said to tell you Semper Fi!

Apparently us Civvies aren't allowed to slywink

That's because it drains your IQ everytime you say it slywink

yeah, I went there.

Good luck Kato
8407  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC Patch notes 16th of June (Stats working!) on: June 16, 2008, 11:00:05 PM

Quote from: StriderGG on June 16, 2008, 08:42:21 PM

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What it comes down to is the faster the combo activates, that's the one to use because the mob will die when it goes off.  All the cool effects are completely wasted and it's a shame.

That's right, some stuff is for solo, some for grouping, some maybe for raids, some for PvP.

Besides, you can start your combo on one mob and, if the mob dies in the middle, finish it on another (when you are fighting more than 1 mob at a time, which is most of the time). IIRC dealing with multiple mobs was one of the complaints assassins used to have.

These assassins complain about everything - first they complained about being underpowered, now - about being overpowered, what's next? smile

I have to stealth to be able to really take them down well, and I still have to heal between battles.  I can't chain them together.  I suppose this means I'm still underpowered in the eyes of you two. Tongue

At least I do good damage now.

I swear, sometimes it feels like the two of you are receiving checks from Funcom, God knows they have the money to throw around.
8408  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC Patch notes 16th of June (Stats working!) on: June 16, 2008, 10:58:26 PM

Quote from: rittchard on June 16, 2008, 06:21:16 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on June 16, 2008, 05:28:14 PM

Still frustrates me in a way though, I have all of these awesome combos with great effects when they go off, but most mobs that I'm fighting don't live through the first 3 moves of the 4 move combos.

Go fight something harder, you big baby!!!!  I'm pretty sure Epic/Elite mobs won't die in 3 moves. crybaby crybaby crybaby icon_lol icon_lol icon_lol

They don't die in 3 moves, but I do when I fight them. Tongue  PoM has no room to talk slywink
8409  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC Patch notes 16th of June (Stats working!) on: June 16, 2008, 05:28:14 PM
well between my abilities properly stacking and what I'm guessing is the bonus to offhand attack chance from dex combined with the ability to use kidney strikes every battle (no cooldown now) and it stacking properly also I'm pretty overpowered in PvE for the first time.

Had a lockup right when an even level boss jumped me and he had me down to about 25% hp and I managed to kill him when the lockup stopped.

Still frustrates me in a way though, I have all of these awesome combos with great effects when they go off, but most mobs that I'm fighting don't live through the first 3 moves of the 4 move combos.

I have an ability to lower enemy damage, one to raise my damage on them, one to make them not heal as fast, plenty of ones with dots and some straight dps abilities.  What it comes down to is the faster the combo activates, that's the one to use because the mob will die when it goes off.  All the cool effects are completely wasted and it's a shame.


edit for CK:  MY assassin got some love just because I happen to have Kidney strikes and they took what was a 1 minute cooldown and it's zero now.  It basically doubles my damage every battle now.

I did notice however that I can no longer trigger ANY instant abilities during a combo.  I'm sure this was done to patch the 'exploit' that people were using where they were starting a combo and when one hit from finishing it they would use a charge ability.  This would allow them to rush up to someone, stun them and immediately pop all the damage of a combo finisher on the target.  Now if you choose an ability while doing a combo, it stops the combo and does the ability.
8410  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Return to Everquest 2 on: June 15, 2008, 08:30:38 PM
Venekor server, evil side
8411  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Impressions] Grid on: June 15, 2008, 08:55:01 AM
Once they patch out the stuttering I'm up for some games.  right now it stutters so badly I can't really play.
8412  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Return to the original Everquest - 3 Years Later (56K Warning) on: June 15, 2008, 12:32:28 AM
I'm now back on Venekor evil side for any of you that play the pvp side.
8413  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Dead Rising] Capcom has crappy QA on: June 14, 2008, 08:22:08 AM
One thing to understand about this game is that it's meant to be played through multiple times from the beginning.
8414  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saints Row 2 starting a war with GTA 4? on: June 13, 2008, 10:17:20 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 13, 2008, 12:31:26 AM

I'd better be able to recreate my overweigh, underwear clad green afro'd avatar in this one.   Afte that commercial I'm definitely in.  360 version of course.

I look forward to teaming up and pimp slapping ho's with your green fro slywink

I think the commercial is awesome and just displays what GTA could have been if they hadn't missed the mark and squandered away their own ideas.
8415  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC Patch notes 12th of june on: June 12, 2008, 12:01:09 PM
First time I've seen assassins in patch notes, too bad it's not something I thought was a problem.  Hopefully if they ever fix stats working my ~300 dex will mean something. (of course by then other people's strength will be working so I'll be dead quicker slywink )
8416  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Goal Line Blitz on: June 12, 2008, 04:03:19 AM
Sometimes stickign with friends can be rough slywink

Two of my players got offers to start for a pro league team that just won their league. Had to say no.  ninja
8417  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: DEMO IS UP: Battlfield: Bad Company Friday Night on: June 12, 2008, 12:52:56 AM

Quote from: Mikagami on June 11, 2008, 07:37:41 PM

Quote from: ATB on June 11, 2008, 02:05:16 AM

Tonight was fun. Some great last stands. Some great assaults.

Some great crayzay candians: Mikagami thinking that his points from the demo transfer over to real game was the highlight of the night though smile.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe they will.
The website seems to be tracking my demo stats just fine.



there is a reason there is a section called 'demo stats' and a whole bunch of sections labeled 'full game stats' slywink 

silly american hats slywink
8418  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Impressions] Grid on: June 11, 2008, 05:05:35 PM
got it free due to some trade ins yesterday.  Taking some getting used to with the wheel.  Might have to leave a few assists on for now which I'm not used to.

Overall very fun, love the helm cam.  Wish everyone had to use it all the time slywink
8419  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC update 9th of june (updated with mount info+stealth patch notes) on: June 11, 2008, 12:45:57 AM

Quote from: godhugh on June 10, 2008, 11:38:05 PM

Quote from: Arkon on June 10, 2008, 10:34:20 PM

This is why being a casula gamer in an MMO is great.  I have yet to really see any of the issues people are whining and bitching about.  I don't do PvP which also eliminates alot of the complaints.  I have a low end system, and have yet to experience more than 3 or 4 total crashes, for the most part the game is rock solid. Performance wise I had many more issues with the launches of EQ2, WoW, and Vanguard.

Agreed. I don't know if I'm necessarily a casual player (I have one char, a 42 barb, after 1 1/2 weeks) and while I've seen a few bugs and had some crashes (only in Old Tarantia though) I've probably had more fun with this game then any other MMO, with the exception of City of Heroes. I'm not focused on PvP right now so that probably helps, as well.

I think a large amount of my complaints are pvp related as well.  For a game that touted how revolutionary their pvp combat would be they didn't really put much thought into the pvp aspect.  I could probably ignore the bugs and shortcomings in pve better because when a mob beats you down in pve it doesn't talk shit slywink
8420  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC update 9th of june (updated with mount info+stealth patch notes) on: June 10, 2008, 10:19:41 PM

Quote from: Crux on June 10, 2008, 10:05:54 PM

Playing it. Loving it. Can't be bothered reading all the bitching about it smile

or logging into GLB slywink

I cancelled today.  too many bugs, game crashes on me every time I zone with the latest patch when it was fine before.  My class is ineffective against any non-cloth wearer that isn't more than 6 levels lower.  ( got frustrated and jumped a 40 barbarian with my 58 assassin and he got away pfft!)

I see great potential, and I did have fun for the first 40 levels or so, but the sheer quantity of problems finally bogged me down.  With another year the game could be pretty stellar as long as they add a harsher pvp death penalty
8421  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC update 9th of june (updated with mount info+stealth patch notes) on: June 10, 2008, 05:28:05 PM
This is the third patch in a row that broke some important things while fixing others and changing still others without documenting them.

If I start my game I get two errors in the log that I have an invalid patcher key and one other error, and the memory leak is much much worse.  I'm still not convinced they test these patches before rolling them out or that they are testing them on systems running the same revisions as the live servers.  Take a gander through the tech support thread after this last patch and you'll see that it's not like a 'bad' patch on other mmorpg where most of the people complaining share a common vid card or cpu config that slipped through testing.  These are problems that slipped through and are affecting vast numbers of configurations.  It seems like they test it on one internal setup and then decide it's good to go if it loads ok.  That buff bug last patch was an example of something that could NOT have slipped by testing unless there was no testing to speak of.

For me it's not just the horrible communication, but it's also the way they are portraying themselves as inept programmers and tester who probably should not be working on a major release.  I couldn't do a better job (before someone tells me to slywink ) but the difference is that I realize this and am not working on a major release because of it.

Watching the game evolve from beta to now it's really just two steps forward and three back for me.

The game has great promise, great ideas, worst execution I've ever seen.  Thankfully I missed the AO launch.
8422  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC update 9th of june (updated with mount info) on: June 09, 2008, 04:21:52 PM

Quote from: skystride on June 09, 2008, 04:02:34 PM

I'd like to see them balance the elite dungeons a bit.  It seems to me that the content is always too hard or too easy with very little in between the extremes.  For example the tombs in FoD, the advice I've heard is wait until you are level 60 when all the mobs in there are green/grey.  Are we meant to raid these dungeons because it just seems impossible with an even con group?

Even solo, there is some really strange scaling going on.  Mobs 4 level higher than me are trivial but as soon as they are 5 levels higher they become impossible.  Similarly mobs 4 levels lower can't hit me at all.  They need to gradually scale difficulty instead of setting these apparently hardcoded limits.

this echoes some of my complaints as well.  Things go from too easy to impossible pretty quickly especially in a group.  If I try to hit something +5 I do 5-10 damage per hit, if I hit something my level it's 150 per hit, something -5 it's 500+ per hit.  That's a bit crazy and reminds me of DAOC before they fixed the purple issue.

I still see no reason at all to ever go into an epic dungeon. frown  They are too difficult (or too easy and just take too long) to be worth the time for the reward.  fighting the grey elites can take an eternity but the whole time they can't even outdamage my regen and I'm wearing cloth.
8423  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 09, 2008, 02:35:13 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on June 09, 2008, 02:18:38 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on June 09, 2008, 02:11:13 PM

The mortar attack is mostly for clearing buildings/trees along with concentrations of enemies.  It's pretty useful overall imo.

I guess I'll give it more time.  I thought I had a perfect opportunity with it when an enemy squad was clumped together for a defuse attempt, but it didn't seem to penetrate the ceiling and I didn't get a kill.

I'll play around with it some more tonight.  I think most of my time is going to be split between demo and support, with a little recon tossed in for fun.

Nothing penetrates ceilings, they did that on purpose.  What the mortar will do is take all the walls down allowing you to kill them with your gun.  You can also use it on the few crates that are in the open for decent damage.  It works from the side if you have already removed walls and place it off center.  It's basically the same as the big arty except for damage capacity and aiming.  The big arty can't shoot through ceilings either.
8424  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC update 9th of june (updated with mount info) on: June 09, 2008, 02:20:14 PM
To bo honest I've always felt like I do decent damage when a target isn't running from me.  My only problems are that a barbarian, ranger and guardian can do more in a single shot/combo than I can with my most powerful ability combined with the inability to catch anyone who turns and runs.  Right now the only people that don't turn and run are barbarians, rangers and guardians, go figure slywink
8425  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 09, 2008, 02:11:13 PM
The mortar attack is mostly for clearing buildings/trees along with concentrations of enemies.  It's pretty useful overall imo.

My god the 'other' heli is just wicked.  I just played a round and went 26-0 in that beast.  With the other chopper, I can fly it more stable but can't kill without a gunner.  This one was just sick. 
8426  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC update 9th of june on: June 09, 2008, 01:36:32 PM
Not only did they not buff or fix any of the broken assassin stuff, but they now made it so you can evade an attack from behind which means we no longer get to backstab with impunity on a stationary target slywink
8427  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC update 9th of june on: June 09, 2008, 01:24:29 PM

Quote from: Thry on June 09, 2008, 11:51:45 AM

The ironic thing is Demo's own Necro's 1 on 1 and they got buffed first.

Overreach still needs to be nerfed hard.

Hopefully Necro's are included in Thursday's...

+1 to everything Thry said.  I got smacked for a ton by overreach. 

Thry can probably guess what my biggest complaint about the patch is though slywink

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Not a single damn mention of the assassin frown
8428  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 09, 2008, 12:33:11 PM
I love the way the US heli handles, but man those rockets suck.  I can do ok damage and distraction without a gunner but once I get a gunner we can turn the tide of the whole battle.  I just had a round with 24 minutes of flight time and we marched all the way to the final 2 crates before I lost a chopper.  was such a rush.
8429  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 09, 2008, 11:20:40 AM
I've seen good results with one 4 man squad coordinating on a team of 'tards slywink

You can make a good push with 2 in the chopper and 2 on ground

On defense you can kick ass with 2 covering one crate and 2 either on the other crate or sweeping towards the enemy spawn.

Eventually the people who don't work well as a team will no longer be playing and the whole dynamic of the game will change.
8430  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Recharging health - Yay or Nay? on: June 09, 2008, 11:18:42 AM
I'm not opposed to having a 'non-realistic' way of healing, but I'd prefer it not be auto-regenning or pre-placed medkits throughout a level.

I like how it in Battlefield: Bad Company where the assault class can have an auto-injector that heals a bit and the support class can heal others by providing medkits.  It's incentive to work as a team and in that aspect the healing works.  Solo games I wish were just designed so that you didn't get hurt as often.  It's always a turn off for me playing a game where I can get shot by 100's of bullets and shrug it off whether by ducking behind a wall for 30 seconds or picking up the magical med pack across the hall.
8431  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC Character Art, etc on: June 09, 2008, 11:15:34 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 09, 2008, 07:23:34 AM

Quote from: Blackjack on June 09, 2008, 04:55:02 AM

And I forgot I read this in previews, but now I know at 40, is when the "full combat" system comes into place with the Q and E key, lower attacks. Surely my fingers will get even more confused now.  icon_razz

oh yeah.. I've spent the last few levels staring quizzically at the screen anytime one of those came up for a combo.  what's even worse is I had been using the 2,3,4 keys for the attacks, and now it's all being thrown off by being forced to use 1,2,3.

oh, and I have to say the Mammoth is really, freaking... S.......


L..........


O.....................................................................................




W.

I use ~1234 for the five attacks.  since I was used to using 123 for the middle and didn't want to relearn it.  You can reprogram yours to however you want it on the key bindings menu.
8432  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC - Wanderers Updates (DERKETO Server) on: June 09, 2008, 01:12:42 AM

Quote from: jersoc on June 08, 2008, 06:06:39 PM

I think a lot of those skills are broken personally. I swear mana attractor or whatever is not working. It seems like renew mana has some crazy low formula as well. The only thing that appears to work is casting concentration and you don't need to put anymore than 100 into that. Of course I could be wrong because I have no idea HOW the are suppose to work, just what they are suppose to DO. and it appears they don't do anything.

Most of the skills work, they just have crap descriptions.

Run Speed is very useful even at 1% per 100 points imo.  Hang out with people who have it maxed and you'll notice a difference.

Recovery, fast recovery, bandaging, mana attracter and regen mana are all skills that only affect your regen rate while resting.  If you take all the points out of them and rest then put the points into them and rest you'll see the difference immediately.
8433  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 08, 2008, 06:14:50 AM

Quote from: Eduardo X on June 08, 2008, 05:39:51 AM

I skipped CoD4 after the beta due to the lack of a cover system. I am not opposed to trying it again, but that really turned me off.

COD4 was very fast paced and fast paced games don't really have a need for cover systems.  What a cover system does is slow down the pace and turn the game into more of a stop, think and shoot.  COD4 was so fast that there was no time for more cover than you could already get by crouching and moving slowly.

BF:BC is also fast paced AND has destructable terrain.  In both of these games there's not much a cover system would even add other than more buttons to manage.

R6 had a good cover system and it works well, but R6 is also a slower paced game with an emphasis on taking your time and getting into position without exposing yourself.  In Cod4 you should be sprinting if you are ever out in the open and behind something otherwise.  You can take cover without a cover system slywink
8434  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 08, 2008, 06:11:51 AM

Quote from: ATB on June 07, 2008, 11:01:31 PM

I think I finally got the controls for the helicopter down.  Couldn't hit anything with the rockets though...got maybe 3 kills.  Was able to succesfully bail out and get right on the crate though.

My most recent match was a 455 pt slaughter with me scoring 21pts per minute.  Went 28/16.

Have I mentioned I love this game ?   crybaby

the rockets are a bitch.  Basically when I fly the chopper with the rockets my gunner gets 15-20 kills and I just fly.  When I fly the chopper with the minigum I get 15-20 kills and my gunner gets about 5. slywink 

With a good gunner (Jarrod is A #1 when it comes to this btw) I have been able to completely clean house and we've gone from the first base (as attackers) to the end with the heli accounting for about 50% of crate destruction and 100% of mayhem slywink
8435  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 07, 2008, 09:04:04 PM

Quote from: Eduardo X on June 07, 2008, 08:55:18 PM

I hate to keep saying it, but the lack of a cover mechanism in FPS games makes games without them obsolete.

I disagree strongly.  COD4 obsolete?  Not sure how you can say that after playing it.  A well done cover system can add greatly to a game, but a poorly done one can kill a game.  I'd rather have a game without on than a game with a poorly implemented one anyday and I don't think we've hit the point yet where a cover system is a done deal.

What good would a cover system do in BF:BC anyway?  You take cover behind something and it'd be gone in about .5 seconds.
8436  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Steaks on: June 07, 2008, 05:47:59 AM
yet another frightening instance of me agreeing with ATB.  I used to always get medium well and now flipped to the medium rare
8437  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 07, 2008, 05:37:39 AM

Quote from: ATB on June 07, 2008, 03:13:29 AM

PS. This is my GOTY already. Just based on the demo. Yes. It's that good.

What would be nice though is if we could fill a room with squads. Appears you can only invite people for a squad of 4.  Any others either go into a different squad or get zorked over the other team.

PS. GOTY!

My biggest problem with the game right now is that it seems like it will be impossible to coordinate more than 4 people in a game.  If we could figure out a way to get 2 squads in games together on the same team we could just use a vent server for communications.
8438  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 06, 2008, 11:00:55 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on June 06, 2008, 01:53:45 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on May 30, 2008, 03:49:07 PM

I also have a complaint about the sniper rifles.  The default sniper rifle doesn't quite kill in one shot unless you head shot.  This would be fine if it didn't take 2-3 full seconds to chamber a second round.  Then I spent an unlock token on the higher damage sniper rifle.  While it did in fact do more damage, it still takes 2 shots and it loads even slower.  Not a whole lot of point to that upgrade imo.  I should have gone the other route and grabbed the faster shooting silenced one.

Was it the M95 you unlocked and didn't like?

Yes, not enough of an upgrade to warrant an unlock token imo.
8439  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 05, 2008, 09:40:15 PM
Game played great with the limited access preorders

Now that there is no limit on how many people can play I think EA's servers are fubar.  Same thing that happened with Burnout Paradise on release of both the demo and full game.  Hopefully they don't repeat and make us wait a week or two for stable gaming.
8440  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC Demo? on: June 04, 2008, 01:55:54 PM
At least this time you have to land the heli to repair it slywink

Had a 23 kill 14 minute streak in the heli with Jarrod last night, was very fun.  If the other team hasn't figured out how easy it is to shoot me down, it's a bit of a slaughter.

Now I just wish I could reset my unlocks since I screwed them up.  I have to wait until the release to use the guns I wanted.
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