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11281  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Shadow Hearts 3 unofficially confirmed for US release on: August 09, 2005, 07:06:26 PM
If this is a tease, I'm going to beat you.  slywink

I'm curious how much localization really costs.  It seems to me that since the bulk of the work on the game is already completed, localization wouldn't really cost that much (compared to the rest of the process).  I would think a game would have to sell an insanely low amount of copies for it to lose money on a US release.
11282  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / It's August: 2005 nearly 3/4 over: What's your GOTY? on: August 09, 2005, 07:02:07 PM
God of War with Meteos coming in a close second.
11283  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 09, 2005, 01:20:49 PM
Quote from: "Nick Bean"
For all the Microsoft haters I ask two questions:

1) How has it been watching Nintendo decline for the last ten years?

2) After all the promises of the PS2 launch, how can you ever believe anything Sony says?

Now a question for everyone that thinks Xbox 360 will be released on Nov 4th:

How could you believe a release date from Walmart when they never get games (or systems) on the first day they are released?

I think that Nov 9th, (aka Halo 2 day) will be it.  I don't have any inside information, just a hunch.


I think there's a big difference between "microsoft haters" and "not remotely interested in even a single X-Box 360 launch title".  Just like the PSP, I think the 360 has great potential, but until they release some games that I'm interested in, I could care less about it.
11284  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / New Bond Girl! on: August 09, 2005, 01:16:48 PM
Quote from: "ElijahPrice"

3.  Breasticles pass my expection


Expectation?  Inspection?  Excretion?  Ejac... never mind.  

slywink
11285  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What are your top 3 console games of ALL-TIME? on: August 09, 2005, 02:37:05 AM
Quote from: "Nick Bean"
3. Omikron: The Nomad Soul==> This DC game offered exploration and a world  on a epic scale. At the time I had never seen anything like it. It paved the way for open ended games with large worlds.


Wasn't that the game David Bowie did all the music for?  I remember picking it up for that fact alone, and not liking it much.  But maybe I'm thinking of a different game.
11286  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [DS] Thirteen upcoming games to watch... on: August 08, 2005, 07:12:45 PM
I have Final Fantasy Tactics Advance and Meteos.  I don't think I'll ever need to buy another game.  slywink

Seriously though, there are some exciting things on the horizon for the DS.  I'm sure I'll pick up FF3, Lunar, Advance Wars DS, Castlevania, and FF:  Crystal Chronicles, and we've also got Xenosaga and Baiten Kaitos games in the works as well.  Trauma Center looks quirky enough that it might be worth a shot.
11287  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / New Bond Girl! on: August 07, 2005, 12:40:07 AM
While I agree it seems a little cheap (OK, a lot cheap) on EA's part, I think she's smoking hot.









And the most important prerequisite for any Bond girl...

11288  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Makai Kingdom on: August 06, 2005, 02:19:00 PM
I'm really fighting the urge to pick this one up.  I loved Disgaea, but after spending close to 60 hours with it, La Pucelle and Phantom Brave just seemed like MOTS to me and I lost interest pretty quickly.  I'm a little nervous that the same thing would happen with MK.
11289  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Need an action rpg recommendation for Xbox on: August 06, 2005, 02:16:11 PM
Quote from: "Xmann"
Not sure what direction to go now.  Maybe i need to reconsider Dark Allaince or Xmen or Jade Empire.  Or just play my rpg's on pc.


If lack of story is a problem, then you definately don't want to play Dark Alliance.  DA's story makes Fable look epic.
11290  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What are your top 3 console games of ALL-TIME? on: August 05, 2005, 05:22:37 PM
1.   Final Fantasy VII - This was my first console RPG, and is honestly the only reason I ever got into gaming at all.  Prior to FFVII, I played a few sports and driving games, but nothing that I could have ever considered emotionally involving.  FFVII made me realize what a powerful storytelling medium video games can be, and sparked my interest in gaming in general.   Thanks to this game, I have purchased nearly every RPG released since 1998, as well as playing through some of the ‘classic’ games in the genre.  Sure, it has it’s flaws, but any game that makes me want to play through 40+ hours 3 times has to be at the top of the list.
2.   Shadow Hearts:  Covenant – For me, SH:  C is the perfect combination of story, graphics, gameplay, characters, exploration, battle system, music, cinematics…basically everything.   I picked up the first game in this series on a whim, and was completely floored by both games.  IMO, this is as close to perfect as an RPG can get.
3.   Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - This has to go on the list simply for the sheer amount of hours I put into it - over 90 – which is far more than any other game I’ve ever played.  The story was only so-so, but the strategic battles and character development kept me absolutely hooked for months.

Honestly, Star Wars:  KotOR and Beyond Good & Evil would probably be tied for #3 on this list, but since we can’t include games that were released on other platforms…
11291  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / New FF VII game? on: August 04, 2005, 06:53:12 PM
And FFVII:  Advent Children is coming to DVD/UMD and possibly a limited theatrical release.

Even to a rabid FFVII fanboy, this milking of the franchise is a bit much.
11292  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Grandia III out today (images heavy) on: August 04, 2005, 01:01:27 AM
Never played Grandia I, but I didn't care much for Grandia II.  It wasn't necessarily bad, it was just one of the most bland, cliched RPG's I've ever seen.  There was literally nothing unique about it at all.

Grandia III does look pretty intriguing (from what I've seen), and that Famitsu review makes me really hope it gets released here.
11293  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / DS wireless question on: August 03, 2005, 02:36:58 PM
Maybe the DS has a really good range and it was reaching from Utah to NJ.

And yes, I am stalking you.  slywink
11294  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / DS wireless question on: August 03, 2005, 01:28:02 AM
I'm sitting on my couch playing Meteos last night, and all of a sudden the top screen shows something like 'Player 2 connected'.  It stayed that way for about 30 seconds, then went back to normal.

My understanding is that the wireless connection for DS is pretty limited range-wise.  Is that correct?  If so, I'm a little freaked out because it means someone was standing in my yard with a DS at 11:30.  Seems a little...odd.
11295  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 02, 2005, 02:47:55 PM
Quote from: "angrycoder"
Am I the only fool that is looking forward more to the unreleased titles for this generation rather than the upcomming xbox360 et al?


Nope.  I've seen precious little from the next-gen systems that interests me at all.  We seriously need more good RPG's!
11296  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Kids. on: August 02, 2005, 02:23:25 AM
We're kicking around this dilemma right now.  The only way for us to have kids is either in vitro (around $14,000) or adoption (slightly less at 10 - 12k).  I wouldn't mind adopting, but Mrs. Gratch really wants to have kids of 'our own'.  I'd prefer the adoption route as I have a feeling her multiple health issues are going to make for a very tough pregnancy.

We'll see what happens, but since women usually get their way, we're probably going to try for our own first.
11297  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Xbox 360 to launch on November 4th at $299.99 per Wal-Mart on: August 02, 2005, 02:17:38 AM
Quote from: "AgtFox"
From what I've read.

Launch Titles:

Kameo
Perfect Dark Zero
Madden 06
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (GR3)
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
Test Drive Unlimited
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland
SSX 4 (simply because it will be out before the 360)

"Launch Window" Titles:

Oblivion
PGR3 (may not be a launch game)


Wow, you just saved me $300!  Not a single title there that I would consider a 'must have'.  Hell, there's only two (Oblivion and SSX4) that I would consider buying at all, and even those would require some incredible reviews.

After my PSP experience, I refuse to get suckered into purchasing day one, and have to sit on it for months (or years) until any good games come out.  Much rather wait until there is an established library, then pick up a bunch of stuff at once.
11298  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / 7 weeks without playing anything... *Updated* on: July 31, 2005, 05:18:33 AM
So am I the only one that thinks that - outside of a couple titles - General's list reads like a 'do not buy' list for the system.

Minority Report?  Night Caster?  Spawn Armageddon?  Batman Dark Tomorrow?  NFL Fever?  You couldn't pay me to play those games.
11299  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Shadow Hearts-From the New World (Limited Edition) Out Today on: July 29, 2005, 03:24:06 AM
Quote from: "Galadriels"
I got a creeping feeling that we won't a North American release of Shadow Hearts 3 any time soon, unless the game did surprisingly well in Japan.  However, the odds are heavily stacked against it.  Given that it will likely be overshadowed by the Square-Enix's 2005 Party this weekend, plus the release of GRANDIA III by Square-Enix next week.  

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/grandia3/

This is a pity as Shadow Hearts 3 just received a very high score by Famitsu, 35/40, and an equivalent of "Editor's Choice".  So this game is very high quality RPG.  

I guess a lot of people missed my question above about whether people in NA would want to play an RPG made in Japan about the States.  The top brass at Japanese publisher may conclude that the answer is no, given that a RPG made in the U.S. about Japan would likely receive little interest overthere as well.  When taking into account that Shadow Hearts 2 did only around 110~120k in NA, there is significant risk involved in bringing it over.


::plugs ears::

I'M NOT LISTENING.  NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA

Seriously though, given the sales of the first two games, I could understand if it never made it to this side of the pond.  It doesn't make me any less dissapointed about it, but I can understand the reasoning.
11300  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Shadow Hearts-From the New World (Limited Edition) Out Today on: July 28, 2005, 11:29:52 AM
drool

Too bad we'll never see anything like that in the States.  frown
11301  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / EA Trax on: July 27, 2005, 03:28:44 AM
While I agree that the bulk of the EA Trax are utter crap, they do throw some good ones in every once in a while.  NCAA 06 had Bad Religion, The Clash, and De La Soul, so it can't be all bad...right?
11302  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [DS] Is is just me, or... on: July 26, 2005, 06:52:07 PM
I should probably clarify.  I can count on one hand the number of times any of my 'portable' gaming systems have left the house.    99% of my gaming is done on the couch, so portable durability (i.e. getting dropped, bumped, etc.) is not a concern.  Maybe that's why the PSP felt so much more durable to me.

I think that maybe the hands thing isn't necessarily the size of one's hands, more that certain hand sizes have a hard time.  For example, with my particular hand size, the bottom corners seem to dig in to an area between thumb and forefinger and become very uncomfortable.
11303  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Riviera Impressions on: July 26, 2005, 11:52:14 AM
I'm about 2 hours in, and still trying to decide if I like it or not.  The art style and story are good enough, but the screen by screen movement system is certainly going to take some getting used to.  

Judgement pending...
11304  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [DS] Is is just me, or... on: July 26, 2005, 11:50:21 AM
1.  ...is the DS the most uncomfortable handheld in the world?  Maybe it's just my hand size, but after 10 minutes with the DS my hands start to cramp up something fierce.  I literally have to take a break every 30 minutes or so just to be able to keep playing.

2.  ...is the top screen on the DS (the GBA screen) smaller than the one on the GBA SP?  Maybe it's just that the unit itself is bigger, but it seems like the DS screen is so much smaller.

3.  ...does the DS feel like a cheaply made piece of junk?  It's functionally fine, but it just feels so cheap.  The PSP had a bit of weight to it, and everything on it just felt solid.  I feel like something is going to break on the DS every time I pick it up.

Don't get me wrong, I love the unit so far.  But some of these things kinda bug me.
11305  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What should I play next? on: July 25, 2005, 02:38:01 PM
The only one on that list I even remotely enjoyed is KotOR II (right up until the end), so I'll vote for that one.
11306  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Considering a DS. Any RPG's on the way? on: July 25, 2005, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: "Belgedin"
Just to get them all in one place:

Final Fantasy 3
Secret of Mana (not much known yet)
Baten Kaitos DS
Xenosaga DS
Mistwalker SRPG (title not yet know)

And you can bet there'll be a new Fire Emblem as well


Sweet.  That justifies the purchase right there!
11307  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Considering a DS. Any RPG's on the way? on: July 24, 2005, 08:01:12 PM
I picked one up with Mario 64 (came bundled), Bomberman DS, Final Fantasy I & II, and Reviera.  Should keep me busy for a while.

Funny how when the DS was released, I thought people would have to be insane to buy one with the PSP coming out.  Turns out, I sold my PSP due to lack of any good games, and will probalby be pretty happy with my DS.  I think think the DS feels cheap as hell, but mine won't really be a portable system (I'll really only play it at home), so I'm not too worried about it.

Let the old-school RPG goodness commence!  smile
11308  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Considering a DS. Any RPG's on the way? on: July 24, 2005, 04:51:40 PM
Against my better judgement, I'm seriously considering getting a DS system.  I've purhcased and sold 2 GBA's now as well as a PSP, but the DS is starting to intrigue me.  And for $150, it makes more sense to me that the overpriced PSP.  

At this point, I'm mainly picking it up to play the GBA RPG's I've missed out on like Final Fantasy:  Dawn of Souls, Rivera, Fire Emblem, and to replay one of my all time favorites:  FFTA.  I haven't followed the DS news much, so are there any RPG's on the horizon for the DS?
11309  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Fable vs Jade Empire vs other rpg's on: July 23, 2005, 06:03:01 PM
This thread is the first I've heard of Fable - The Lost Chapters.   I'm guessing it's basically an expansion pack, right?
11310  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Fable vs Jade Empire vs other rpg's on: July 23, 2005, 05:24:03 PM
RPG pickings on the XBox are painfully slim.  The only other RPG I really enjoyed was Sudeki, but I'm in the minority with that one.  It has a very similar combat style to Fable, so if you enjoy one, you'll probably like the other.  It can be picked up pretty cheap as well (sub-$20).

EDIT:  There's some good Sudeki discussion in this thread.
11311  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Fable vs Jade Empire vs other rpg's on: July 23, 2005, 02:14:29 PM
Quote from: "Purge"
I'd recommend Jade Empire for one reason... Fable - The lost Chapters is coming out for PC and Xbox.  Once that has been released you should be able to pick up the original Fable for a song and a dance.


I just picked up Fable for $12 used.  Doubt it will get much cheaper than that.
11312  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Fable vs Jade Empire vs other rpg's on: July 23, 2005, 01:10:54 AM
I thought Fable was an absolute blast (playing it through for the second time right now), but was bored to tears with Jade Empire.   A lot of people were bitterly dissapointed in Fable because of the ridiculous amount of hype it received, mainly from the developer himself.  People were so vocal about their dissapointment that after the game was released, Peter Moleneaux actually issued an apology to gamers for not including many of the features he promised would be in the game.   IMO, if you accept Fable for what it is (a hack n slash with a fun social system), it can be a truly fun experience.  If you go in expecting the end-all-be-all of console RPG's (which it seems most people were), you will be bitterly dissapointed.

Jade Empire is just one of those games that simply didn't 'click' wth me.  I think the main reason was that I had just finished playing Knights of the Old Republic 2 the week before, and was pretty tired of the style.  Jade Empire simply felt like a asian themed mod for KotOR, and there didn't seem to be much special about it.  I felt no connection to the story or characters, the combat seemed slow and dull, and the graphics and voice work were simply 'meh'.  I know a lot of people around here loved JE, but it really did nothing for me.

Long story short...Fable > Jade Empire (ymmv)
11313  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Need some console advice on: July 20, 2005, 10:16:22 PM
Quote from: "Xmann"
ok guys i think i'm sold on an Xbox but i had one more question.  I'm considering maybe a used system from EB.  Anyone know how reliable these are and do they offer any type of warranty on them?  
Also, hows the NCAA football game for Xbox?  I'm trying to nail down a couple games to start with and i was thinking a football, driving, and adventure/rpg.  For those categories, whats the best bet?


Check out this thread for impressions of NCAA 06.  Initial impressions were great, but sketchy AI is taking it's toll.  


Football:  I sill think the best football game is ESPN 2k5
Racing:  Realistic racing – Project Gotham 2.  Arcade Racing – Burnout 3 (probably my favorite racing game ever)
Action/RPG:  If nothing else, you have to play Beyond Good and Evil and Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic (if you didn’t play the PC versions).  I also really enjoyed Fable, Sudeki, and Baldur’s Gate 2 for good hack-n-slash action.  Demon Stone and the LotR games are fun as well, if short.  Thief 3 is a fantastic game, but the PC version is far superior.  Star Wars Republic Commando is a fun rental that can be beaten in about 8 hours.  Fun SW squad-baed shooter action.

I’m sure you’ll get recommendations for Ninja Gaiden, Halo 2, and Jade Empire as well.  I disliked all three, but they’re very highly rated.
11314  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Bought NCAA 06... Impressions on: July 20, 2005, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: "Captain Caveman"
Gratch, you should have just taken a knee.  :wink:


Tried, but couldn't find that option.
11315  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / RPGs, the next 5 months, and You on: July 20, 2005, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: "Galadriels"
As for Romancing Saga Minstrel Song, I would say that the game is definitely very "Hardcore".  Though I am not sure whether it's because it's a remake of 1992 title.  Things that are considered the norm 15 years ago for RPG may be totally unacceptable today.

For one thing, the combat is very difficult since random encounter difficulty scales up along with your character's ability and the number of battle you fought.  So just as in Wizardry 8, every encounter can be your last.  You will also find that chained/back-to-back battle are very common in this game, since monsters that are in close proximity will "link-up" to form consecutive battles.  

Furthermore, you can lose characters PERMANENTLY in this game.  There is something called LP (Life Point) for each character, and they can be as low as 3 LP for one character.   You can't raise LP at all, only restore them.  It boggles my mind to find out that in order to escape from battle, you would need to use up your LP!!

However, the fact that this game sold 450,000 unit in 2 months and is the only RPG in top 10 best-seller (2005) should tell you that there may be more than that meets the eyes.  Surely not all Japanese are masochist who enjoy pains and frustration?   :wink:

This game does have a huge and very open-ended gameworld.  In fact so opened-ended that you will likely be lost after the 1st few hours.  The game have 8 different charcters each with different stories, though their path may intersect during the game.  So it's one of those monstrous games that will take you hundreds of hours to experience most of its contents.  Furthermore the graphics is lush and top-notch.  You can see it for yourself in the following Trailer and 30 second Commercial.

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/games/ps2/romasaga/trailer/index.html


Well, that description just completely destroyed any interest I had in the game.  Thanks for saving me $50!  smile
11316  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Bought NCAA 06... Impressions on: July 20, 2005, 03:40:13 AM
Bleh.  I ran into some serious AI issues tonight.  Playing in the Liberty bowl as Utah (10-1, MWC Champs) vs. Memphis (9-3, C-USA champs).  I'm up 42-21 with 1:30 to go.  My running back has close to 250 yards and has been shredding the defense all game, so I'm on cruise control.  Run up the gut, cover the ball with both hands, repeat.  Suddenly he fumbles the ball on an ankle tackle and it's returned by a d-lineman who breaks 4 tackles on his way to the endzone.

42-28.

I recover the onside kick with about 1:10 remaining.  Memphis only has one time-out, so I figure I'll run the same thing.  First play from scrimmage, even though I'm covering the ball and simply diving ahead, he fumbles again.  Mephis scoops it up, and - you guessed it - returns it for a touchdown.

42-35.

I recover the onsides kick. There's still about 50 seconds remaining, so I need to run one play.  No way he'll fumble 3 in a row, right?

Wrong.

D-lineman broke up the handoff and caused a fumble.  Memphis has it on their own 40 with :40 seconds remaining and one time-out.  Time for a serious passing attack from their QB who has over 250 yards in the game, right?

Wrong.

Memphis proceeds to run 5 running plays in a row (at this point they have a total of 30 rushing yards in the game, mind you) from a no-huddle to run the clock out and lose by a touchdown.  Not a single pass attempt.

If they're going to program the AI to cheat and get back into the game, why on earth wouldn't they program it to at least play intelligently in a close game?  It really left me scratching my head.

The game is fun, but the more these AI issues raise their head, the less I enjoy it.  I'll probably play through another season, but I'm quickly losing my enthusiasm for NCAA '06.  frown
11317  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What descriptions can kill your interest in a game? on: July 19, 2005, 02:19:44 AM
I was skimming through the latest Game Informer, and I decided there are a few words that, when used in a pre/review, completely kill my interest in a game.

"Action RPG" - I mostly play RPG's, and they are by far my favorite genre of game.  But I can count on one hand the number of "action RPG's" that I've enjoyed.  If I'm going to play an RPG, I much prefer traditional turn based battle systems.  If I know a game is going to require good twitch reflexes, I'm out.

"Frantic Action" - See above.  I lost my ability to twitch-game about 10 years ago.  I'm just horrible at it now.

"Open ended" - Sometimes (rarely) this can be a good thing, but I despise games that don't give a clear indicator of what to do next.  There's nothing I hate more than wandering around a game world with no clue as to how to progress the story.

"On line" - I know it's becoming very uncommon, but I am a solitary gamer.  I don't enjoy playing either with or against other people.

"Futuristic shooter" or "military shooter" - I'm not big on shooters in general, but add 'futuristic' or 'military' and you've completely lost my interest.

If I see any of the above words and/or descriptions in a review, I usually know it's a game I won't much enjoy.  Curious as to what other people's are.
11318  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Bought NCAA 06... Impressions on: July 18, 2005, 03:05:09 PM
Quote from: "GatorFavre"
Just had a nasty run-in with some comeback AI.  Very frustrating to be up big and all the sudden I cant run or pass and my defense starts getting torched  :x  I hate that shit in EA games.  If I wanted to get screwed out of a win, I'd put in NFL Blitz.


I ran into this last night as well.  My running back that was averaging 160 a game suddenly couldn't break a tackle or find a hole, my O-line turned into a seive, my receivers dropped 8 passes in one half (3 in the end zone), I threw 3 interceptions that were batted around twice before the AI came up with the catch, and the AI suddenly started making superhuman plays (receptions when triple teamed, breaking out of 4-person tackles, etc.).  I usually don't do it, but I actually shut the game off before finishing it.  Dissapointing. frown
11319  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / RPGs, the next 5 months, and You on: July 18, 2005, 02:58:35 PM
Dragon Quest VIII - I'm tenatively excited about DQ8, but I'll wait on reviews.  I haven't liked any of the other DQ games, but this one looks like it has potential.

Radiata Stories - I have yet to even remotely enjoy a Tri-Ace game (yes, that includes Valkyrie Profile), so I'll most likely skip this one.

Makai Kingdom  - Don't know much about it.  Looks like I need to do some research today.

Kingdom Heart II - Are these still considered RPG's?  I despised everything about the first KH, so I'm sure I'll skip this one.

Digital Devil Saga II - I really want to give it a shot, but only if they fix the ridiculous encounter rate that killed the first game.  That game was so close to being one of my favorites.  From what I've heard, DDS II is more stor-oriented, which would be a very good thing.  The incredible story is the highlight of DDS.

Magna Carta: Tears of Blood - Definately interested for the SH similarities, if nothing else.  It certainly looks cool, and I'm sure I'll give it a shot.
11320  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga Impressions! (pg. 2) on: July 16, 2005, 05:36:48 PM
SoA = Skies of Arcadia?  Funny you should mention that.

When I returned it last night, the guy at Gamestop was bemoaning the fact that I didn't appreciate what a great game DDS was.  I told him I'm adding it to a rare list of mine:  Games that were almost perfect, but had one critical design flaw that ruined what could have been an amazing game.  Skies of Arcadia is the only other game on that list.  frown
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