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10761  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Overlord coming to Gametap on 8-9-2007!!! on: July 28, 2007, 05:57:03 PM

Quote from: Mattc0m on July 28, 2007, 05:01:39 PM

Uh, I saw them on GameTap. I'm not sure how the system works, but I saw both of them.

Guess it's not part of the deal, though. My bad!

Interesting.  I didn't know Gametap is getting into the business of selling games as well.
10762  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Bonds is 2 away! on: July 28, 2007, 01:16:04 PM

Quote from: naednek on July 28, 2007, 06:04:55 AM


Certainly not the word I would use.

I too wish he would hurry up and get it done.  It's inevitable that it will happen at this point, so we may as well just be done with whole ridiculous spectacle.
10763  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Using the Orange Fret- Seriously. I need help on: July 28, 2007, 01:11:44 PM
The raised notch on the yellow fret is your best friend.  I typically move my hand up or down, but make sure I've got one finger planted on the notch so I know where I'm at.

As cliche as it is, the only way you'll get used to or comfortable with it is lots of practice.
10764  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The $2700 dollar Christmas? on: July 27, 2007, 06:56:09 PM

Quote from: Andrew Mallon on July 27, 2007, 05:41:51 PM

Quote from: Gratch on July 27, 2007, 05:31:06 PM

Quote from: Andrew Mallon on July 27, 2007, 04:23:57 PM

...Front Mission 1st, ...FFXII: Revenant Wings

Forgot about those two. 

What Growlanser game is coming out in August?

Growlanser V. Atlus is putting it out themselves. It's supposed to be a self-contained story, not related to any of the previous games, so the fact that IV never made it to the US shouldn't hurt the experience.

Hmmm, might have to give that one a look.  While not the greatest RPG's, I stlil quite enjoyed the pack they put out a couple years back (Generations?  It had 2 & 3.).  Thanks for the heads-up.
10765  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The $2700 dollar Christmas? on: July 27, 2007, 05:31:06 PM

Quote from: Andrew Mallon on July 27, 2007, 04:23:57 PM

...Front Mission 1st, ...FFXII: Revenant Wings

Forgot about those two. 

What Growlanser game is coming out in August?
10766  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Indy 4 Just Hooked Me on: July 27, 2007, 02:16:46 PM
I was in day one regardless, but this is certainly cool news.
10767  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The $2700 dollar Christmas? on: July 27, 2007, 02:13:59 PM

Quote from: Arclight on July 27, 2007, 07:47:23 AM

I'm such a light-weight compared to you guys......... eek

Me too.  I can narrow that entire list down to:

Aug: Blue Dragon

Sept: Nothing

Oct: Guitar Hero III

Nov: Rock Band, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect

November will hurt, but that's about it.
10768  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Overlord coming to Gametap on 8-9-2007!!! on: July 26, 2007, 11:37:30 PM

Quote from: Mattc0m on July 26, 2007, 11:08:06 PM

...Sid Meier's Pirates...Jade Empire,

Wait, when did these happen?  icon_confused
10769  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Advertising Slogan Generator on: July 26, 2007, 09:40:54 PM
"Ring Around the Gratch Gets Your Whole Wash Clean."

Sounds dirty.
10770  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How hot does it get where you are? on: July 26, 2007, 06:18:10 PM
Salt Lake is usually 95-105 F in the summer and 20-40 F in the winter.  Both spring and fall are 60-70's.  I hate the summer (I generally despise hot weather in general), but the rest of the year is really quite nice.  Very low humidity as well, which helps. says it's 85 today, but after spending the morning outside, I can guarantee it's hotter than that.
10771  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Overlord coming to Gametap on 8-9-2007!!! on: July 26, 2007, 03:50:04 PM
WTF??   Had I known this, I wouldn't have dropped the $60 for the 360 version.   icon_evil 

Good for Gametap, though.
10772  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [All] Guitar Hero 3 Confirmed and Announced on: July 26, 2007, 03:19:03 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on July 26, 2007, 02:33:55 PM

I'll say it now.

Through the Fire and Flames = hardest Guitar Hero song, EVER.

This is someone's homebrew version for GH2, but it gives you an idea of what the song might look like.

Through the Fire & Flames

Around the 5 minute mark is complete insanity.   icon_eek
10773  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Apparently a time-bomb comes standard with every 360. on: July 26, 2007, 03:07:39 AM

Quote from: Interloper on July 26, 2007, 02:46:27 AM

Mine also gave up the ghost suddenly.  Worked fine up until the day it died, and it died 100% that day.

Sheesh.  That's, what, half a dozen from GT'ers in the last 2 weeks alone?
10774  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I finally finished Baldur's Gate II on: July 26, 2007, 12:39:45 AM

Quote from: disarm on July 26, 2007, 12:00:10 AM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on July 25, 2007, 11:28:20 PM

I'd recommend starting Throne of Bhaal sooner rather than later.  It's quite hard and I had a difficult time playing it after my knowledge and skills about BG2 atrophied between releases. 

that's a very good point.  you'll probably have a much easier time if you play ToB while you're still familiar with your party and the game mechanics as a whole.  some of the battles in ToB are very challenging and will push your party strategy to its limits.  going into action like that once you're forgotten the abilities of your party members can be a little tricky.

I thought about that, but I'm pretty Baldur's Gate-ed out right now.  As great as the game is, I feel like I just went 10 rounds with the champ to wrap it up.  I'm sure the Infinity Engine mood will strike again soon (it always does), and I'll try and get back into it.
10775  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Rock Band Bundle $200.00 shipped at Amazon on: July 25, 2007, 11:25:54 PM
The main reason I'm excited for Rock Band is the drums.  Of course, actually playing the drums makes me a bit biased.  smile

Price be damned, I'll have the full package on day one.
10776  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / I finally finished Baldur's Gate II on: July 25, 2007, 11:01:05 PM
BGII is one of those games that I've started again and again, gotten through the first few chapters, and ultimately either lost interest or moved onto something else.  Every year or so I would look at it on the shelf and think, "Y'know, I really should play that all the way through".  Well, I've spent the past month or so working on it, and finally finished it up this afternoon. 

While the ending is a bit anti-climatic, BG II is truly a masterpiece of the RPG genre.  The story, the artwork, the NPC's, the battles, everything just comes together seamlessly to create a truly epic experience.  Even though the Infinity Engine is showing it's age, the attention to detail and artwork in BG II are truly amazing.  The amount of depth they put into the story is simply incredible, and I even skipped a lot of the side quests (quest overload was one of the main reasons I never finished it on previous tries).  Since RPG's have moved to a much more cinematic feel, I doubt we'll ever see anything like BG II again.  This is one notch I'm glad to finally get on my gamer's belt.  I don't think I'll be starting the expansion right away, but will hopefully get through that one someday as well.
10777  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Sam & Max Season 2! on: July 25, 2007, 10:53:35 PM
Sweet!  Reminds me that I still need to finish Episode VI.
10778  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: got a PS3 impressions on: July 25, 2007, 06:14:03 PM

Quote from: jblank on July 25, 2007, 04:35:43 PM

I'm not trying to be a salesman or anything, I am neutral and love both my 360 and PS3, but I gotta tell ya Gratch, for what I paid for it ($600), the PS3 has been worth every penny for me. I have played more F1 Championship and MLB: THE SHOW than any other game, on either of my consoles. Add to it that I now have arguably the best upconverting DVD player now (the PS3) a top notch Blu-Ray player for my 30+ Blu-Ray movies, and a kick ass music player, it has been worth the initial expense. I only have 2 more 360 games than PS3 games now and for the rest of '07, it might be 50/50 with all the solid PS3 titles coming out.

Right now, it all comes down to games.  I can count the number of current or upcoming PS3 exclusives that interest me on 2 fingers:  Final Fantasy XIII and White Knight (?  Not even sure that's the right name).  I have an older rear-projection TV that still works fine for 1080i stuff, but I'm afraid most of the hi-def capabilities wouldn't really be used, since there's no way I could spring for a new TV anytime soon.  Conversely, there's a ton of games coming out for the 360 that I want.  A few of them are cross-platform,  but the main ones I'm interested in are not.

I'm sure I'll have a PS3 somewhere down the line.  I figure that by the time the PS3 price drops into a range that I can actually afford (at least sub-$400), there will be a larger library of games that I will enjoy.  Currently, however, it would be a $600 paperweight. 
10779  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: got a PS3 impressions on: July 25, 2007, 03:58:47 PM

Quote from: Misguided on July 25, 2007, 03:20:24 PM

I honestly think the PS3 is a sleeping giant slowly beginning to awaken.
There's some really good exclusive stuff on the horizon: Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Eye of Judgment, Lair, Heavenly Sword, MGS IV, FF XIII, etc.

One of the main reasons I'm holding off on a PS3 purchase (other than the ridiculous price) is to see how many of these titles stay exclusive.  If the system keeps selling so abysmally, game makers are going to be very hard-pressed to continue to give exclusives to the PS3.
10780  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Hold a tick...GH: Rocks the 80s Warning on: July 25, 2007, 01:31:29 PM
Boy, I sure am glad I sold my PS2 Guitar Hero so I could get the 360 version.  I love getting these new 80's tracks, as well as having access to all that awesome, reasonably priced DLC content!

Oh, wait...   icon_evil
10781  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Apparently a time-bomb comes standard with every 360. on: July 25, 2007, 03:02:25 AM
I feel your pain, mine just got shipped back last week. 
10782  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Princess Bride...then & now on: July 24, 2007, 09:08:05 PM

Quote from: depward on July 24, 2007, 06:40:52 PM

I just watched The Princess Bride for the first time about a month ago.  I thought it was really lame.  I think I laughed maybe once?

Unpossible.  This finally proves my sneaking suspicion that Dep is actually a robot.
10783  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: FT: Overlord on: July 24, 2007, 04:36:00 PM
Might want to specify 360 or PC.
10784  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Tales of Innocence (DS) trailer on: July 24, 2007, 03:23:05 AM
Looks pretty impressive (those overworld map scenes looked like they were right out of FF VII), but the whole fast-paced, real-time combat system doesn't interest me in the slightest.  That was also the most annoying voice acting I've heard in a long time.  I couldn't even get through the 3:00 trailer without hitting mute.
10785  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: June NPD Numbers (US) on: July 24, 2007, 12:03:12 AM
The only amazing thing on this list is how can there possibly be nearly 400,000 people who had not yet purchased Guitar Hero?   slywink

Just out of curiosity, do replacement 360's count in the NPD totals?  (sorry if this has been addressed before)
10786  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Toaster Woes on: July 23, 2007, 05:54:13 PM
We've got the same toaster we got as a wedding gift nearly 10 years ago, and it works great.  What on earth are you doing to your poor toasters?
10787  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (7/23) on: July 23, 2007, 05:51:54 PM

Quote from: Calvin on July 23, 2007, 05:07:18 PM

Quote from: Gratch on July 23, 2007, 04:57:14 PM

Debating whether I want to re-buy Civ IV for the third time in order to play BtS.  You'd think that one of these times I'd just hold onto it.

How cheap can CIV4 be had? When I heard about a brand new Space scenario I was all like "omfg Hi 2 U!!"

You can get Civ IV + Beyond the Stars for $50 on Steam.  They also have a pack for $75 that includes the core game and both expansions.
10788  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: A wee bit of consideration, folks, please? on: July 23, 2007, 04:59:54 PM
Another +1 from me.  It's really the only gripe I have about our fantastic trading community.
10789  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (7/23) on: July 23, 2007, 04:57:14 PM
Debating whether I want to re-buy Civ IV for the third time in order to play BtS.  You'd think that one of these times I'd just hold onto it.
10790  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: This just in: 360 is losing money... on: July 23, 2007, 02:17:45 PM

Quote from: warning on July 23, 2007, 01:58:25 PM

Microsoft's growing troubles with the Xbox 360 video game console appear to be catching up to the company. Sales of the gaming machine plunged 60% in the fiscal fourth quarter, Microsoft disclosed Thursday.

In its earnings statement for the quarter, Microsoft said it shipped 700,000 Xbox 360 units during the period, compared to 1.8 million in the fiscal fourth quarter of 2006 -- a fall off of 61%.

Microsoft's Xbox operations are housed within the company's Entertainment and Devices Division. The group saw fourth quarter revenue drop 10% year-over-year to $1.16 billion on an operating loss of $1.20 billion. The group lost $423 million the previous year.


It'd be interesting to see what the sales drop-off is attributed to.  Lack of AAA titles?  Dependability issues? 
10791  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jade Empire contest? on: July 23, 2007, 12:06:36 AM

I'm waiting!!  slywink
10792  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Good PS2 games on: July 22, 2007, 08:47:19 PM
Not knowing what you may or may not have already played, here's a couple more suggestions:

Shadow Hearts & Shadow Hearts:  Covenant
Final Fantasy X
Dragon Quest VIII
Tenchu (the first PS2 one, the others sucked)
Katamari Damacy
Any of the Shin Megami Tensai games (not my favorites per se, but certainly worth a look if you're an RPG fan)
10793  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: July 21, 2007, 09:30:02 PM

10794  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Finished Okami? on: July 21, 2007, 02:26:57 PM
::raises hand::

I really think that if Okami had been 20 hours, it would be one of the greatest games I have ever played on any system.  Unfortunately, they felt the need to drag it out into the 40+ hour range.  Everything after about 25 hours just felt like padding to me, and I pretty quickly lost interest.   The story became rather dull, the puzzles were uninspired, and the "wow" factor of the graphics started to wear off when they recycled artwork for different areas.

I think that it was still a solid A game, but the length keeps it from being the all-time classic that it could have been.

EDIT:  It's still the only game I've ever made a post like this about.  smile
10795  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Odin Sphere on: July 21, 2007, 03:33:07 AM
Finally got around to starting this tonight.  I'm completely floored by the artwork, and this ranks right up with Okami on the amazing visuals scale.  Just got past the first big dragon boss (man, that guy was tough!), and am liking it so far.  I completely suck at it, mind you, but it's pretty fun. 

A couple questions:

1.  It says I have 68 gold in my pouch, but the store vendors won't let me buy anything.  My gold total always shows up as a big red zero in the shopping screen, but a 68 in the inventory.    I'm confused.

2.  Do you have to be standing on top of a plant for it to grow?  I've planted seeds at the beginning of a couple levels, but they only seem to grow when I collect while standing right on top of it.  Since you need to move around a lot in order to fight, that makes things a bit tough.

10796  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: Some oldie but fairly goodie PC games FREE. Just pay shipping. on: July 20, 2007, 09:49:38 PM
Crap, I missed Painkiller.

Very cool of you Mikeg!    thumbsup
10797  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Persona 3 Thread of Yumyum Deliciousness (& impressions when they come...) on: July 20, 2007, 06:30:16 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on July 20, 2007, 05:40:56 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on July 20, 2007, 05:32:33 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on July 20, 2007, 05:24:04 PM

Persona 3???

I've never even heard of Persona 1 or 2.

They were on Playstation 1.  Person 2, in particular, was a very rare (and sought after), expensive game until it received a limited re-release a few years ago. 

Thanks for the info. 


Something tells me it might not be your cup o' tea denoginizer.  smile

I'm interested, but have had a really hard time getting into any of the Shin Megami Tensai games.  I always enjoy the artwork, style, and story, but for some reason the battle systems have really rubbed me the wrong way.  Doesn't look like this one is much different, so I'll regrettably be giving it a pass.  Besides, I've got my fair share of quirk with Odin Sphere arriving this week.
10798  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Playlist 20/Jul/07 on: July 20, 2007, 12:57:37 PM
With any luck, UPS will deliver Odin Sphere today and I can get started on that.  Otherwise, I'll be spending a ton of time with Baldur's Gate II on PC (I'm about halfway through Chapter 5).
10799  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Michael Vick Indicted on: July 18, 2007, 07:03:38 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on July 18, 2007, 06:28:26 PM

I am one of the very few people I know that likes Vic.  I always have.  And I am a huge proponent of innocent until...

Just not well enough to add the K on the end of his name?  slywink

My opinion on Vick has always been that he is an amazing athlete, a mediocre QB, and a complete waste as a human being.
10800  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Infinity Engine Marathon on: July 18, 2007, 05:35:32 PM
I started BG2 a couple weeks back, and am up to Chapter 5.  I'm a bit stuck, so I'm hoping I can find the solution and not just give up like I did on my previous 3 tries.
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