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10601  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Launch Thread on: November 09, 2006, 10:12:43 PM

Quote from: Ridah on November 09, 2006, 09:31:03 PM

FF and MGS can eat my ass, other games do what they do better time and time again.

Someone obviously hasn't played FF XII.    icon_wink
10602  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Guitar Hero II - Your Top 5 & Bottom 5 songs on: November 09, 2006, 10:08:19 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on November 09, 2006, 09:17:20 PM

Quote from: TC Weidner on November 09, 2006, 08:22:14 PM

My favorite songs are old school,  Kansas, Rush, Heart, Almond Bros, etc, 

My least favorite are sword, iggypop, that rap craptastic one, etc

I REALLY REALLY hope that now since they have the coding down to an art that the can just start pumping out GENRE versions.  How about 20 classic songs from such groups as YES, U2, Def Leopard, Pink Floyd, The Who, Genesis,etc..  Just give us a classic 70s and 80s venue to play them on and sell it for 20 bucks or so.

Do the same for other genres, have a heavy over the top version with Gwar, Iron Maiden, etc

I think you're more likely to find these themed packs on Xbox Live than in any stores.  And it will be really really hard to resist them.

I sure hope not.  I have zero interest in a 360, nor the funds to buy one anytime soon.

I remember reading an interview with Red Octane a while back that said they were looking at doing these type of expansions.   IIRC, they specifically mentioned a metal pack, a classic rock pack, and an 80's pack.  Not sure if those are still in the works or not.

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My favorite songs are old school,  Kansas, Rush, Heart, Almond Bros, etc,

Almond Bros.   icon_lol
10603  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 08, 2006, 08:22:03 PM

Quote from: Xmann on November 08, 2006, 08:17:30 PM

Since i haven't gotten there yet, which chest do we NOT open and where at in the game is it?  I'm still in the sewers after escaping the palace.

I can check the guide when I get home, but I'm pretty sure you've already passed them.  A couple of them were in Lowtown and Rabanastre iirc, so you've probably already opened them. 
10604  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 08, 2006, 07:37:19 PM

Quote from: depward on November 08, 2006, 07:28:44 PM

I'm in love with the game - so good, SOOOO GOOOOOOOOD

Amen, brother.  All the minor niggles aside, this is one of the best games I've played in a long, long time.
10605  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 08, 2006, 06:24:35 PM
Great impressions Pharaoh, thanks!  I'm glad to hear the storyline stays strong.  A good battle system can only keep me interested for so long, but I'll always play through a good story.

Quote from: Pharaoh on November 08, 2006, 05:56:30 PM

K) The Zodiac Spear, the weapon you get in the Necrohaul Nabudis for not opening 4 specific chests in the first half of the game is overpowered. If you do get it, prepare to be able to Melee the rest of the game. Yes, you can just use auto-attack for even the last boss because of how hard the thing hits. Up to your preference.

As an aside, I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate it when games do this.  I'm trying to play through as guide-free as possible to stay away from spoilers.  There is no mention anywhere in the game that opening specific chests 5, 10, 12, & 17 out of the 2,000 chests in the game during the first 2 hours will cause me to miss out on the uber-weapon 40 hours later.  Shit like that annoys me to no end.

10606  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Genji [PS3] Review-Hi2u Bad Launch Titles on: November 08, 2006, 03:31:16 PM
Bad launch titles?  I'm shocked.  Shocked I tell you!!   icon_wink
10607  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The f-word on: November 08, 2006, 03:22:31 PM
I've made a conscious effort lately to curb my swearing.  I let an f-bomb slip at work the other day and got lectured about it (big no-no around here), so I've got to make sure I keep it clean.  
10608  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Guitar Hero II - Your Top 5 & Bottom 5 songs on: November 08, 2006, 03:16:27 PM
Thought it would be interesting to see people’s Top 5 and Bottom 5 in GH II.  I played through Hard last night, so here’s my initial impressions.  Some of these may change, depending on how insane the Expert difficulty level gets.

Top 5 (in no particular order)
1.  Message in a Bottle – I actually despise this song, so I was surprised at how fun it was to play.
2.  Monkey Wrench – Again, not a fan of the original, but this one’s a blast.
3.  Sweet Child O’ Mine – This was a surprisingly well done cover.  Besides, who honestly can say they don’t like this song at least a little bit?   icon_wink
4.  John the Fisherman – Having the original tracks is a huge plus on this one
5.  Laid to Rest – Again, very surprised because I am not a Lamb of God fan at all

Honorable mention:  Jessica, Rock This Town (will be better once I can nail the strumming pattern), Crazy on You

Bottom 5 (again, not in order)
1.  Strutter - Boooooooooring
2.  Mother – I love this song, but this cover isn’t very good.  The singer is bad, and the whole thing is just wussified.
3.  Tatooed Love Boys – If I never have to hear this song again, I’m perfectly OK with that.
4.  Freya
5.  Bad Reputation – This one is probably my least favorite.  Just a bad, bad song.

Dishonorable mention:  Madhouse, Heart Shaped Box (mainly because it's a bad cover)
10609  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Guitar Hero II Impressions - (spoiler: it kicks ass) on: November 08, 2006, 03:02:09 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on November 08, 2006, 02:34:41 PM

Cover Quality - I think it may be because these are songs I know much better than in GH1, but the voices are WAY off on a lot of songs this time around, not something I really noticed in GH1.

I agree.  The ones that are off seem much more glaring this time around.  "Mother", "Heart Shaped Box", and "Killing in the Name Of" are probably the worst.

On the flip side, there are a few that I never thought they'd be able to pull off that sound really good.  "Message in a Bottle", "Them Bones", and "Sweet Child O Mine" come to mind.
10610  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: November 08, 2006, 02:37:13 AM




10611  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Sigh. I lost another pet today... on: November 07, 2006, 12:35:25 AM
That's tough man.  My condolences.   :icon_sad:
10612  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 06, 2006, 08:27:51 PM

Quote from: EddieA on November 06, 2006, 08:19:20 PM

It looks like it's selling well  icon_biggrin

Wow.  1.5 million in the US and 2.4 million in Japan.  Assuming $50 a game, that's $195 million so far (and it's only been out a week in the US).   eek
10613  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Launch Thread on: November 06, 2006, 07:55:39 PM

Quote from: Jarrodhk on November 06, 2006, 06:16:14 PM

The PS3 really doesn't interest me for the next 6 months to a year.  I haven't heard of anything exclusive that I have to have before then.

Now come the first price drop..... I'll 80% likely buy one.  I had 0 intention of buying an xbox originally.  When they dropped to 200 I walked out the store with one the next day.

+1. 

Then again, I'm not really the typical gamer.  The lack of any sort of RPG on either the 360* or PS3 means I can easily wait for a while.

*yes, I know about Enchanted Arms but it's not exactly a system seller for me.
10614  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Recap: Knightshade is a Psycho Edition on: November 06, 2006, 07:50:11 PM
Mostly FFXII, with a little bit of NWN2.  I quickly realized there's no way I'll be able to play both of those at the same time, so I'm shelving NWN2 for now.
10615  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So, when's the next gaming drought? on: November 06, 2006, 07:46:32 PM
For me, the only games I'm really looking forward to are Guitar Hero 2 and FF III (DS).  Since I don't plan on going next gen for a long time, I'm not to concerned about most of the upcoming releases.  Maybe it'll actually give me time to finish the dozen or so games I have started right now.
10616  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's get ourselves on the map! on: November 06, 2006, 05:20:55 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 04, 2005, 10:21:33 AM


"Sorry, Gamintrend not found"

Alright, who broke the intarweb?
10617  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 06, 2006, 03:10:06 PM
FWIW, I'm pretty sure guests don't get XP.  Vossler joined at level 17 when everyone else was at 12-13.  He's stayed at that same level and everyone else has caught up to him.
10618  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 06, 2006, 02:54:25 PM
Hmmm, looks like I need to go hit a couple marks while I've still got Vossler in the party.  I've only done the first four, so maybe it's time for a little hunting action.  I think there's a teleport stone in this area, so that might be worth a shot.  It's strange though, as I've done almost the exact same thing and I'm still quite a ways behind.   icon_frown  Just out of curiosity, where did you do your grinding for that much XP?  The best I could find was on the desert platforms (where I got my 127 chain), and those guys only gave 80-90 xp. 

It does make me wonder, however, which method is best for this game:  Leveling 3 uber-characters, or keeping the entire party balanced.  I remember the end of FFVII, where the game required you to grind your lesser used characters to even have a chance, and I wonder if this one will do the same.
10619  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 06, 2006, 02:39:02 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on November 06, 2006, 02:30:10 PM

Of coruse hours-wise I'm in about the same place as you (at the time of your posting). Story-wise, I wish there were chapter numbers or something so I could say where without spoiling it. slywink

Wait, your characters are 27th level 20 hours in?    How the hell did you do that?  :icon_eek:   I just got to the
Spoiler for Hiden:
Tomb of Raithwall, through all the desert platforms
and am gearing up to fight the boss there.  I've spent a couple of hours grinding on the most powerful enemies I can handle, so I'm trying to figure out how you could be that far ahead.  The only thing I can think of is that I've been trying to keep my party pretty balanced, so I've got everyone around level 17-18.

Wonder what I'm doing wrong?

EDIT: 
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My main 3 are levle 27, the other 3 are 12-13... doh.

Oops, missed that part the first time.  That explains a little bit of the level difference, but even with 3 characters at 27 and 3 at 12, you're still a good 15 levels above me. Wondering how you did that.
10620  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (11/06) on: November 06, 2006, 02:00:26 PM
-  Guitar Hero II
-  Possibly Elite Beat Agents.  Haven't decided if the supposedly excellent gameplay will be worth sitting through the absolutely horrid music selection.

Will get FFV eventually, but I've too many other RPG's to play right now.
10621  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 06, 2006, 01:01:04 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on November 06, 2006, 05:51:26 AM

-I vastly prefer FF10's Grid to 12's Licence Board.  Defined roles with the chance to customize/branch later = awesome.  Hodgepodge of skills + combat that encourages all your characters to be jack-of-all-trades and discourages specialization = lame.

While it's not really affecting my enjoyment of the game, I completely agree with this.   I liked the idea of defining the character (i.e. healer, caster, melee, etc.), but having the ability to expand that role if you to invest the time & effort.  I'm always worried when I make choices on the license board that I'm relegating myself to hours of grinding because I made the wrong choice for that character.  More specifically defined roles for the characters would have been nice.
10622  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 06, 2006, 05:15:09 AM
I finally figured out the one small thing that's been bothering me about the combat system.   After nearly 20 hours, I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to use an elemental attack.  I was going to set up Balthier as my black mage, but I haven't had occasion to use any black magic spells yet.  In fact, I haven't even seen the level 2 spells for sale anywhere!  I also have not had to use any of the white or green magic spells other than Cure yet.  Fran & Penelo know them all, but I have yet to use them.

Does this change as you get further in?
10623  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 06, 2006, 02:34:47 AM
Got my biggest chain so far tonight.  Ran through the desert platforms and racked up a chain of 127 before another enemy snuck in to break it.  The drops start to get pretty sweet after 100.   icon_biggrin
10624  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Guitar Hero II Impressions - (spoiler: it kicks ass) on: November 06, 2006, 12:46:08 AM

Quote from: Dafones on November 05, 2006, 06:54:23 PM

We were pretty impressed with our selves when we broke 100,000, though I'm sure you all just kill the game by now.

Ah, I remember those days so long ago...  slywink

Glad you're enjoying it.   In terms of just sheer fun factor, GH is be one of - if not the single best - game I've ever played.  Can't wait for this Wednesday!
10625  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 06, 2006, 12:43:08 AM

Quote from: EddieA on November 06, 2006, 12:32:39 AM

"By selling items to the merchants it opens up more and more items from the bazaar."
Is the bazaar global or separate for each store?  For instance, if you sell enough to one store to unlock its bazaar, does that open up the bazaar option for all stores or just that one?

I'm pretty sure the bazaar is global.  I've got a couple bazaar items that I unlocked in Rabanastre that are available at any vendor in the world.
10626  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 05, 2006, 08:40:45 PM

Quote from: Destructor on November 05, 2006, 08:27:32 PM

Quote from: semiconscious on November 05, 2006, 07:29:56 PM

going back there shortly, now that i've gotten some quickenings (re: which, is anyone actually taking the time to push specific buttons, or just basically mashing all of'm, as i am?)...

I know I'm doing something wrong with the Quickenings, as I don't have the slightest idea how the hell to actually pull one off.

On the other hand, I have my first Summon, and wow...what a power increase I suddenly have.

I also agree that the 'steal just to keep up with the joneses' aspect of the game is starting to get very tiring. The problem is that I need the money. You just don't get enough money/item drops (unless you run wild with the Chain system) without doing it. And I'm at the 22 hour point now.

Two questions:

1.  How/where do you pick up Summons?  Are they unlocked on the license board?
2.  Is there some trick to the Quickenings?   I have no idea what I'm atually supposed to be doing either.
10627  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 05, 2006, 07:40:25 PM

Quote from: Nth Power on November 04, 2006, 04:07:24 AM

Anyone know if there's a way to set up gambits so the character does an action only once? 
For example, I want Vaan to steal once as his first action then attack the rest of the time.  The problem is he keeps stealing consecutively and I want him to stay concentrated on the leader's target.

16 hours in, and I have yet to find a Steal gambit that works well.  I tried the Foe HP=100%-->Steal, but that only works if you're fighting one enemy.  If you're fighting multiple foes, the person with that gambit will run around trying to steal from all of them until they've all been hit.

Mabye there's a Gambit later on that limits it to one action (i.e. Steal Once)?
10628  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 05, 2006, 05:16:28 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on November 05, 2006, 04:22:36 PM

Quote from: Jarrodhk on November 04, 2006, 12:59:05 AM

60 chain?  Sheesh, I've gotten to 18 as the highest for myself.

I just got up to 100 just to see what the drops turned into...  I'm pretty well stocked up on phoenix down. slywink

About the hunts, is it just me or are they ridiculously hard after the first four? I've tried a number of them and I'm not even coming close to defeating these guys. I thought the hunts would be an amusing diversion form the storyline stuff, but they've become a pain and I'm skipping them for now.

I've gotten my ass handed to me as well.  I'm guessing I just need to be higher level to take them on.
10629  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: November 05, 2006, 03:55:47 PM




10630  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 05, 2006, 03:49:17 PM

Quote from: Xmann on November 05, 2006, 03:36:24 PM

ok, i'm about sold on picking this up........however.........can this be played on a widescreen monitor?  will it scale?

Scales to either 4:3 or 16:9.  FWIW, the 16:9 looks great on my widescreen.
10631  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I loves the cats! on: November 04, 2006, 02:36:40 PM

Quote from: warning on November 04, 2006, 12:01:26 PM



That one just kills me.
10632  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Neverwinter Nights 2 Impressions on: November 03, 2006, 03:48:57 PM

Quote from: Kobra on November 03, 2006, 03:09:40 PM

Quote from: Daehawk on November 03, 2006, 02:39:40 PM

CGW's Matt Peckham only gives NWN2 5 out of 10 stars in the Jan issue. Is his review pretty un standard for NWN2?

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3154870

Damn, this definately has me reconsidering. I didn't like the first NWN personally, so I am leary already about this one.  I'll wait for a couple of price drops, it seems a bit pricey at $50 in most locations.. I'll re-investigate it around the $30 pricepoint.

Don't base your opinion solely on this review.  It's utter shite.  That being said, I can't imagine that someone with an active dislike of the original NWN would enjoy NWN2 very much.

What was it that you didn't like about the original?  If it was the campaign storyline, that is supposedly much improved this time around.  If it was the actual gameplay, I'd probably steer clear until a price drop, as it's really pretty similar.
10633  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 03, 2006, 03:44:07 PM

Quote from: jonsauce on November 03, 2006, 03:27:21 PM

I've nver played a Final Fantasy game before and I don't regret picking this one up.  I'm having a blast with it.  It makes me wish I hadn't missed out on the previous 11.  I might go back and play a few of them when I'm finished with this.

Correction.  It's 10, plus that online...thing.   icon_wink
10634  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Playlist 3/Nov/06 on: November 03, 2006, 03:25:05 PM

Quote from: whiteboyskim on November 03, 2006, 03:11:15 PM

Not entirely sure yet but among the contenders is a title I received yesterday for review that I'm not overtly looking forward to.

Now I'm intrigued...

This weekend's all about FFXII with maybe a little bit of NWN2.
10635  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Neverwinter Nights 2 Impressions on: November 03, 2006, 02:59:53 PM

Quote from: Daehawk on November 03, 2006, 02:39:40 PM

CGW's Matt Peckham only gives NWN2 5 out of 10 stars in the Jan issue. Is his review pretty un standard for NWN2?

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3154870

That was a painful read.  I could barely get through his first muddled paragraph:

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As everything-the-original-did -- and more -- follow-ups go, Neverwinter Nights 2 deserves a banner & something like "mission accomplished." Think the sequel to Jurassic Park, where Spielberg's all "You want more dinosaurs? I'll show you more dinosaurs." As a contemporary CRPG, on the other hand, NWN2 leaves a lot to be desired, and that's too bad, because these are the guys who brought us Planescape: Torment and Icewind Dale 2 and therefore they are the guys I'm least inclined to take issue with.

I have issues aplenty with his review (why would you have someone with such an obvious negative bias toward the D&D system review a D&D based game?), and it's even harder to take him seriously when he writes at the third grade level.  It's hard to believe someone actually gets paid to write like that.
10636  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 03, 2006, 02:30:54 PM
I really disagree with much of the Game Trailer review.  For me, this story is one of the best I've seen in a long time, and the characters and world are extremely well-developed.   It sounded to me like the story just didn't click with that particular reviewer.  It is certainly a departure from the standard "angsty teen saves the world" theme of the last few FF games, but that's a very good thing imho.  It truly does feel like you're in the middle of an epic story and it does a great job at drawing you into the world.  The graphics are the best we've seen out of the PS2 and are extremely well done. 

It also sounds from that review like they really didn't like the combat system.  While I can certainly understand that (different strokes and all), I think it's one of the best RPG combat systems I've ever played.  I was initially very apprehensive about the Gambit system, as it looked like the game would essentially be playing itself.  In practice, however, it is an extremely deep and flexible system that is a lot of fun to play.  It takes some getting used to (especially those of us used to FF's standard turn-based system), but I'm enjoying it more and more as I go and as the Gambits start to open up.  I'm still not entirely sold on the license system, but that's just personal preference.  I'm trying to specialize the characters as much as possible, but I'm a bit concerned I'm going to end up with a group of underpowered folks at the end.  Time will tell, I suppose.

Bottom line is this:  I'm 13 hours in, and would strongly recommend FFXII, even to those who have never played a FF game before.  FWIW, that review is very much in the minority, with most other reviews rating the story & combat as definate positives.
10637  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I just added Esq. to my name! on: November 03, 2006, 02:23:01 AM
With great Esq. comes great responsibility.  Choose wisely.

Congrats!
10638  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I caught one of my local Gamestops in a lie on: November 02, 2006, 11:27:04 PM

Quote from: Misguided on November 02, 2006, 11:18:59 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on November 02, 2006, 10:38:56 PM

Quote from: Gratch on November 02, 2006, 09:35:47 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on November 02, 2006, 09:28:26 PM

To which I say, "Fourteen days on pre-owned stuff."

When did this happen?  It's always been 7 days on used games, iirc.
From the back of the receipt:

"Returns & exchanges of new and pre-owned mechandise will be accepted within 14 days of purchase."

Then they are using old receipt paper, because the stuff we use has no writing on the back except GS and EB logos.

Mine too.  No writing on the back and it says 7 days on the front.
10639  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I caught one of my local Gamestops in a lie on: November 02, 2006, 09:35:47 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on November 02, 2006, 09:28:26 PM

To which I say, "Fourteen days on pre-owned stuff."

When did this happen?  It's always been 7 days on used games, iirc.
10640  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I caught one of my local Gamestops in a lie on: November 02, 2006, 08:41:23 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on November 02, 2006, 06:48:23 PM

Quote from: Gratch on November 02, 2006, 06:38:54 PM

This is a big problem at my store.  They are horribly understaffed, and even the slightest problem with a transaction leads to very long wait times.  The old manager told me they receive the same amount of schedulable hours as the stores that do 1/3 the amount of business. 

The time it takes waiting on trade-ins kills me.  Feels like every time I'm trying to be quick because I've got my wife and daughter in the car I end up behind some guy trading in 40 bargain bin quality titles and his entire DVD collection only to find out that he's only going to get $24.92 in credit and then he has to take 15 minutes to decide whether he wants to do the deal or not. 

What kills me is when people trade in systems.  No matter how many people are in line, the one employee behind the counter has to hook up the system, boot it up, and play it for a couple minutes before accepting it.

I got stuck behind one of these when I bought Okami.  I had the game pre-ordered and completely paid for, all I needed to do was pick it up.   The guy in front of me brought in a PS2, an X-Box, and a huge stack of games.   Of course, the idiot cashier couldn't be bothered to hurry his "testing" process, and was having a great time BS'ing with the customer while he messed around with the used systems.  He then used the credit to buy a 360, so of course they had to run the pre-order, warranty, & add-on gauntlet.  All told, it took close to 20 minutes before his purchase was complete, and there were probably 12 very pissed-off people in line by the time they were done.  When I got up to the counter, my transaction took a grand total of 30 seconds.  Needless to say, I was absolutely livid by the time I left the store.

Quote
And normally once you've become a 'regular' customer, the bullshit from the employees (like the original poster had) stops. The crew there sorta jokingly asks me if I want to preorder anything else for example whenever I make a transaction. They're required to do it, but they know that odds are I won't be doing so.

Unfortunately, my "regular" status at this store dissapeared when the last manager left.   Basically the entire staff was replaced except for one guy.  He still recognizes me and is a pretty cool cat (yesterday he told one of the other cashiers to quit bugging me about pre-orders), but I usually have to deal with what has their new crop of pushy, annoying, salesman.
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