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10601  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 03, 2006, 02:30:54 PM
I really disagree with much of the Game Trailer review.  For me, this story is one of the best I've seen in a long time, and the characters and world are extremely well-developed.   It sounded to me like the story just didn't click with that particular reviewer.  It is certainly a departure from the standard "angsty teen saves the world" theme of the last few FF games, but that's a very good thing imho.  It truly does feel like you're in the middle of an epic story and it does a great job at drawing you into the world.  The graphics are the best we've seen out of the PS2 and are extremely well done. 

It also sounds from that review like they really didn't like the combat system.  While I can certainly understand that (different strokes and all), I think it's one of the best RPG combat systems I've ever played.  I was initially very apprehensive about the Gambit system, as it looked like the game would essentially be playing itself.  In practice, however, it is an extremely deep and flexible system that is a lot of fun to play.  It takes some getting used to (especially those of us used to FF's standard turn-based system), but I'm enjoying it more and more as I go and as the Gambits start to open up.  I'm still not entirely sold on the license system, but that's just personal preference.  I'm trying to specialize the characters as much as possible, but I'm a bit concerned I'm going to end up with a group of underpowered folks at the end.  Time will tell, I suppose.

Bottom line is this:  I'm 13 hours in, and would strongly recommend FFXII, even to those who have never played a FF game before.  FWIW, that review is very much in the minority, with most other reviews rating the story & combat as definate positives.
10602  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I just added Esq. to my name! on: November 03, 2006, 02:23:01 AM
With great Esq. comes great responsibility.  Choose wisely.

Congrats!
10603  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I caught one of my local Gamestops in a lie on: November 02, 2006, 11:27:04 PM

Quote from: Misguided on November 02, 2006, 11:18:59 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on November 02, 2006, 10:38:56 PM

Quote from: Gratch on November 02, 2006, 09:35:47 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on November 02, 2006, 09:28:26 PM

To which I say, "Fourteen days on pre-owned stuff."

When did this happen?  It's always been 7 days on used games, iirc.
From the back of the receipt:

"Returns & exchanges of new and pre-owned mechandise will be accepted within 14 days of purchase."

Then they are using old receipt paper, because the stuff we use has no writing on the back except GS and EB logos.

Mine too.  No writing on the back and it says 7 days on the front.
10604  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I caught one of my local Gamestops in a lie on: November 02, 2006, 09:35:47 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on November 02, 2006, 09:28:26 PM

To which I say, "Fourteen days on pre-owned stuff."

When did this happen?  It's always been 7 days on used games, iirc.
10605  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I caught one of my local Gamestops in a lie on: November 02, 2006, 08:41:23 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on November 02, 2006, 06:48:23 PM

Quote from: Gratch on November 02, 2006, 06:38:54 PM

This is a big problem at my store.  They are horribly understaffed, and even the slightest problem with a transaction leads to very long wait times.  The old manager told me they receive the same amount of schedulable hours as the stores that do 1/3 the amount of business. 

The time it takes waiting on trade-ins kills me.  Feels like every time I'm trying to be quick because I've got my wife and daughter in the car I end up behind some guy trading in 40 bargain bin quality titles and his entire DVD collection only to find out that he's only going to get $24.92 in credit and then he has to take 15 minutes to decide whether he wants to do the deal or not. 

What kills me is when people trade in systems.  No matter how many people are in line, the one employee behind the counter has to hook up the system, boot it up, and play it for a couple minutes before accepting it.

I got stuck behind one of these when I bought Okami.  I had the game pre-ordered and completely paid for, all I needed to do was pick it up.   The guy in front of me brought in a PS2, an X-Box, and a huge stack of games.   Of course, the idiot cashier couldn't be bothered to hurry his "testing" process, and was having a great time BS'ing with the customer while he messed around with the used systems.  He then used the credit to buy a 360, so of course they had to run the pre-order, warranty, & add-on gauntlet.  All told, it took close to 20 minutes before his purchase was complete, and there were probably 12 very pissed-off people in line by the time they were done.  When I got up to the counter, my transaction took a grand total of 30 seconds.  Needless to say, I was absolutely livid by the time I left the store.

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And normally once you've become a 'regular' customer, the bullshit from the employees (like the original poster had) stops. The crew there sorta jokingly asks me if I want to preorder anything else for example whenever I make a transaction. They're required to do it, but they know that odds are I won't be doing so.

Unfortunately, my "regular" status at this store dissapeared when the last manager left.   Basically the entire staff was replaced except for one guy.  He still recognizes me and is a pretty cool cat (yesterday he told one of the other cashiers to quit bugging me about pre-orders), but I usually have to deal with what has their new crop of pushy, annoying, salesman.
10606  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 02, 2006, 07:17:20 PM
The license discussion brings up an interesting question.  How are you guys developing your characters?  9 hours in, and I'm going with:

Vaan:  Melee Fighter (swords) with a few white mage abilities.  Not really sure which direction I want to take him yet.
Fran:  White & Green mage & bow specialist
Balthier:  Black mage and gun specialist.  He seems to be a bit low on MP, but maybe I can bump that up through licenses
Captain Basch:  Seems like a straight up fighter type.  Currently focusing on swords, shields, & armor.

Debating if I should have someone work with staves, or leave that for additonal PC's.  Hmmm...
10607  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: F.U.R. - Final Fantasy XII [PS2] on: November 02, 2006, 06:51:14 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on November 02, 2006, 06:49:38 PM

Quote from: Gratch on November 02, 2006, 06:44:36 PM

-  Not crazy about the fact you can't see what unlocked on the license board do.  You can usually guess, but surprises might cause some issues with character progression.


I think Gamefaqs has a map of the license board if you want to plan ahead. 

I've actually got the guide, so I can tell where everything is.  I'd just prefer to be able to see them on the board instead of having to open up the giant poster every time I want to upgrade something.
10608  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: F.U.R. - Final Fantasy XII [PS2] on: November 02, 2006, 06:44:36 PM
I gave it a 9.

+  Amazing graphics, both in-game and in-cutscene
+  Great characters
+  Extremely detailed and compelling story.  Makes you feel like you're in the middle of a huge conflict.
+  Revamped combat system is great, once you get the hang of it
+  Sweeping musical story that adds an 'epic' feel
+  Auto-map is awesome

-  Some of the VO work is spotty.  Bangaa's are very hard for me to understand, as is anyone wearing a helmet.
-  Not crazy about the fact you can't see what unlocked on the license board do.  You can usually guess, but surprises might cause some issues with character progression.
10609  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I caught one of my local Gamestops in a lie on: November 02, 2006, 06:38:54 PM
I really used to like my GS, but they've really started going downhill since the manager left a month back.  They've gotten way more pushy about pre-orders and 'upgrades' (i.e. regular edition to CE).  I usually pre-order games that I know I'll want or games that are niche titles, but I don't want to have some schlub pushing me on pre-orders I don't want.  The counter monkey asked me 4 seperate times if I wanted to pre-order Halo 3, even after I told him I have no interest in the Halo games.  

I got to the store right when they opened to pick up FF XII on Tuesday.  I had pre-ordered, but there were two other guys there who hadn't.  The new manager told them they were lucky they showed up right at opening because they only had a couple non-reserve copies available, and that they better be sure to pre-order next time.  About 5 minutes later, I overheard him tell the other employee that the entire top shelf (must have been about 50 copies) were the non-pre-orders.  Nice.

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However, I am starting to realize that I think it actually takes more time for me to get a game in a Gamestop because there are only 2 people in there tops and if people have trade-ins, which they usually do, it backs things up.  

This is a big problem at my store.  They are horribly understaffed, and even the slightest problem with a transaction leads to very long wait times.  The old manager told me they receive the same amount of schedulable hours as the stores that do 1/3 the amount of business.  
10610  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Chicken soup? I've got a cold. on: November 02, 2006, 03:41:41 PM
Jack Daniels.  I hear it works wonders...
10611  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I want to play through all the major PSX RPG's on: November 02, 2006, 03:29:48 PM
I never could get into Grandia, so spending 40+ hours with it is rather impressive.

Good luck on the rest of the games!
10612  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Neverwinter Nights 2 Impressions on: November 02, 2006, 03:28:24 PM
Picked it up last night (against my better judgement, as I don't think it will get much playtime) and played for about an hour. It felt a lot like NWN1 to me, which is a good thing. The graphics are certainly underwhelming, but it runs just fine on my system (XP 3400+, GF 7600GT, 1 GB RAM). at 1024 X 768. I wasn't terribly impressed with the voice acting, and the story seems like RPG 101, but I'm sure both will improve as I go. Used one of the pre-made fighter characters, but I think I'm going to start over with my own build tonight.

One quick question. In the first area (the town fair thing), I am supposed to pick-pocket a guy with the kid thief, but I can't figure out how to do it. The tutorial says to right click on the guy and use the 'Sleight of Hand' feat. I've tried this multiple times, but right clicking on him does nothing (yes, I have the thief selected). Am I missing something?
10613  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Howdy! on: November 01, 2006, 05:52:20 PM
Oh shit, he found us.  Everybody RUN!!!

 icon_wink
10614  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 01, 2006, 05:49:12 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on November 01, 2006, 04:51:13 PM

Hmm, well I'm about two hours in and I haven't seen the event in question.  Really hoping that it's as minor of a spoiler as mentioned above. 

I'm 9 hours in and I don't recall that event.  I'm a bit confused as to what he's referring to.   :icon_confused:
10615  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Neverwinter Nights 2 Impressions on: November 01, 2006, 01:01:11 PM
I'm back on the fence with this one.  I do really want to play it, but I'm afraid I won't put any time into it after picking up FF XII.  I have it paid for at Gamestop, but I think I'm going to transfer that $$ towards Guitar Hero II then pick up NWN2 after I finish a couple other games.  No sense paying $50 to have a dust collector on my shelf for a month.
10616  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: November 01, 2006, 04:02:09 AM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on November 01, 2006, 03:49:25 AM

Yeah, the X-Axis stuff screwed me up too.  Took me about an hour to get used to it.  Very aggrivating.

WOW at the music in the game though, especially the stuff in the intro video and opening cutscene.  Had a very John Williams flavor to it and felt very unlike normal FF music. 

FWIW, they used a new composer this time around.  Uematsu had done all the previous FF games, and they brought in Sakimoto (?) this time.  He had previously worked on music for the FF Tactics & Vagrant Story games.

Just put in about 9 hours and my brain is shot.  I'll put up some detailed impressions tomorrow, but if I were to sum it up in a few words, they would be:

This game is absolutely fantastic and deserves every bit of the glowing reviews it's receiving.   icon_biggrin

More to come tomorrow...
10617  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: October 31, 2006, 03:47:46 PM
Leaving to pick up my copy now.  Will have impressions sometime this afternoon, if I can drag myself away.   icon_smile
10618  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII reviews on: October 31, 2006, 04:47:22 AM

Quote from: StitchJones on October 31, 2006, 04:25:15 AM

The most negative review I have seen yet eek  Thet really didn't like the game.  It sounds like they gave it an 8.0 just because it's Final Fantasy.  it seems you will either hate or love this game.  I hope I love it.

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=1684


Interesting review.  It's the first one I've seen that says a lot negative about the story.   While I'm concerned that I won't care for the battle system (the demo did nothing for me), the story and characters are not much of a concern.  We shall see.
10619  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII reviews on: October 31, 2006, 04:37:16 AM

Quote from: Nth Power on October 31, 2006, 03:16:46 AM

Are all EB/Gamestops having a midnight sale?  I get off work around that time and there's a couple in the general vicinity.

Mine is, although I'm not sure I'll stay awake long enough to get there.  Plus I don't really want to deal with the costume contest and other nonsense they're doing.  Will probably just pick it up when they open tomorrow.
10620  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: October 31, 2006, 02:58:22 AM




10621  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Guitar Hero II preview on: October 30, 2006, 03:17:28 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 30, 2006, 03:07:39 PM

Quote from: Gratch on October 30, 2006, 02:57:04 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 30, 2006, 02:50:14 PM

First, you should check this out -
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6910345125183117552

Trogdor from Homestar Runner on Expert.  Oh yes...that is very far beyond my skill level. smile


Oh, and on the front page we have a quick Guitar Hero II preview.  Enjoy!

Um, that wasn't Trogdor.  Very nice preview, though!

Yea it it, it just says the wrong band name.  Turn it up and you'll see....

I stand corrected.  My bad.
10622  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Guitar Hero II preview on: October 30, 2006, 02:57:04 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 30, 2006, 02:50:14 PM

First, you should check this out -
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6910345125183117552

Trogdor from Homestar Runner on Expert.  Oh yes...that is very far beyond my skill level. smile


Oh, and on the front page we have a quick Guitar Hero II preview.  Enjoy!

Um, that wasn't Trogdor.  Very nice preview, though!
10623  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Recap 30/Oct/06 on: October 30, 2006, 02:24:09 PM

Quote from: The Grue on October 30, 2006, 01:19:58 PM

I feel the ending is getting near for Okami, which is good, not because I don't love it to death, but because I really need to get it finished for FFXII. 

As much as I love Okami, it really bogged down for me about 25 hours in.  If they had made it 20-25 hours, it would be one of my favorite games of all time, but it's really too long imo.  As it stands, I haven't quite been able to push through to the end yet, and with FFXII & NWN2 coming out this week, it's going to be a long time until it gets played again.   :icon_sad:
10624  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (10/30) on: October 30, 2006, 02:20:04 PM
FFXII & NWN2. 

I'm actually braving a midnight sale to pick up FFXII tonight, and took tomorrow off so I can play all day.  It's been a damn long time since I've done that.

Just noticed this one:  Lawnmower Racing Mania 2007.  What the...?
10625  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Recap 30/Oct/06 on: October 30, 2006, 12:48:48 PM
Nice goin' ATB!!   icon_biggrin

Nothing really for me.  Some old-school arcade stuff on Gametap, but that's about it.  Haven't wanted to dig into anything new with FFXII & NWN2 coming out this week. 
10626  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How do you POSSIBLY do it !!! on: October 30, 2006, 12:52:02 AM
Woo hoo!  Go Raiders!

Yeah they're horrible, but they're still my team so I gotta cheer on the rare occasion they actually get a win. 
10627  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII reviews on: October 30, 2006, 12:38:13 AM

Quote from: Ridah on October 29, 2006, 11:35:19 PM

I don't really look at review scores, I go off what I read in the review. This is an excerpt from the GI review that made me skeptical:

"These nagging doubts are distracting enough to keep Final Fantasy XII from ascending to the same heights as some of the previous entries..."

You would have to read the entire review to know what his doubts refer too, bit it is disheartening nonetheless.

I tend to take GI's reviews with a massive grain of salt as well, so that's understandable.  As Tebunker said, the reviews elsewhere have been overwhelmingly positive, so I'm awfully excited for it.

On a side note, I picked up the guide this afternoon and it weighs in a over 350 pages.  This thing is freaking huge!
10628  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: October 29, 2006, 09:39:49 PM
10629  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII reviews on: October 29, 2006, 07:14:20 PM

Quote from: Ridah on October 29, 2006, 05:34:55 PM

I read the Game Informer review and it didn't seem very promising, I'm worried this one may be all flash no substance.

saywhat

A few excerpts from their review:

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The cast of characters is easily my favorite ensemble to date, replete with histories, conflicts, and secret motivations that will leave you in awe.

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Led by a politically charged story that instantly seizes your imagination with riveting events and an extraordinary cast of characters...

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The result is fast, efficient combat that is packed with strategy and dependent on characters' roles within in the team

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Graphics:  One of the most breathtaking games on the PS2

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While familiar enough to earn its place in this hallowed franchise, FF XII is an innovative and artful game unlike any I've ever played.

Sounds about as balanced (i.e. great combat, graphics, & story) and positive as a review could get.  Are you sure you read the right review?   icon_wink

10630  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Sunday Skin 10/29/06 on: October 29, 2006, 02:45:46 PM
Well done KD, as always.
10631  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII reviews on: October 29, 2006, 02:43:39 PM

Quote from: EddieA on October 28, 2006, 07:24:43 PM

"Wait, is it Monday midnight or Tuesday midnight it's being released?  I'm so confused."
It would be Monday midnight, but only some Gamestops/EBs are doing the midnight release.  The game has already been shipped to stores, so unless they're really slow in getting new releases, most stores should have it available Tuesday morning.

Thanks Eddie.  I'm going over to pick up the guide this afternoon, so I'll confirm it then.

Damn that looks good Fellow.  And yes, we all hate you a little bit.   icon_wink
10632  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Is it worth getting a PS2 now? on: October 28, 2006, 05:23:28 PM

Quote from: StitchJones on October 28, 2006, 05:11:18 PM

I had a roomate who had a PS2 so I just used his for playing games, but now I have my own place and Final Fantasy XII comes out in a few days.  I'm wondering if it's really worth it to pay $100-$130 for a PS2 now.  Are there still more good games coming down the pipeline?  I already have a 360 and I'll get a PS3 sometime next year when more are available and more good games hit the U.S.  The only other really good PS2 game I can think of coming out is God of War2.

Now is a better time than ever to own a PS2.  The price is low, the last couple months have given/will give us some incredible games (Okami, FFXII, Guitar Hero 2, God of War 2, Disgaea 2, etc.), and you've got an entire back catalog of fantastic games to play (I'm assuming you haven't owned one before).   
10633  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII reviews on: October 28, 2006, 02:17:21 PM

Quote from: Destructor on October 28, 2006, 01:33:38 PM

Quote from: Gratch on October 28, 2006, 01:15:01 PM

I think this may the first and only time I ever go to a midnight release.  Since I'm taking Wednesday off, I may as well get started as early as I can.

I'm highly debating on getting it Monday at midnight (as I have Tuesday off). It would give me more time to play, and I could chat with all the true Final Fantasy geeks while I wait.  icon_biggrin

Wait, is it Monday midnight or Tuesday midnight it's being released?  I'm so confused.   :icon_confused:

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How many people her think the collector's edition is worth the price of entry, considering that it is $20 more expensive than the Circuit City standard version? I'm going back and forth on this one.

The CE contains:

-A VERY beautiful steel tin
-History of Final Fantasy featurette
-Art gallery
-US and Japanese trailers

I don't see anything there worth an extra $20.  I will be buying the guide though (hopefully this afternoon), as I do for all FF games.
10634  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII reviews on: October 28, 2006, 01:15:01 PM
I think this may the first and only time I ever go to a midnight release.  Since I'm taking Wednesday off, I may as well get started as early as I can.
10635  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: October 27, 2006, 11:44:57 PM


10636  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy sales chart comparison on: October 27, 2006, 08:50:57 PM

Quote from: Calvin on October 27, 2006, 08:22:05 PM

And FFVII remains the most grossly overrated RPG of this generation...

Says you.  I think it's one of the best, if not the best.
10637  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: My issues with... on: October 27, 2006, 06:22:50 PM

Quote from: naednek on October 27, 2006, 06:08:56 PM

Quote from: Gratch on October 27, 2006, 05:37:38 PM

There are different levels of addiction, though.  In the example you cited, I think anyone would agree that your BIL has a serious problem.    If he refuses to see it as a problem, then he does deserve some measure of contempt.  However, I think it would be more contempt for his stubborness/willfull ignorance of his family's well-being rather than contempt simply because he's addicted.  One doesn't always come with the other.

In my case, I was/am addicted to chewing tobacco.   I haven't hurt anyone else with my addiction.  I haven't yet had any health problems due to my addiction.  It was actually a very relaxing habit that I quite enjoyed.  However, I'm quitting simply because I wanted to save a few $$ each month and I knew that it eventually may lead to some health issues.  What about that sort addiction would deserve to be "looked down on"?

Not trying to troll here, I'm honestly just curious as to the reasoning.

Gratch,

I'm glad you decided to stop chewing tobacco even if it's just because of money.  But one thing that bugs me is this statement  "I haven't hurt anyone else with my addiction"   Now , I don't personally, so I have to ask, are you married?  If you are, you are hurting someone, you're hurting your family.  Maybe not now, but possible down the road.  They are the ones who will have to take care of you because of the addiction.  Even if you're not married, you hurting the average joe, because we are spending millions in taxes to healthcare (hospitals, EMS, county services) because of people's addictions.

You make a good point, and I agree that there is possiblity of harm to my family in the future.  I've hopefully nipped it in the bud so it won't happen, but we'll see.

I was really just trying to provide a less extreme scenario than what Kobra described.   I was curious to see if the reaction towards addiction is the same regardless of the circumstances.
10638  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gametap Revisited on: October 27, 2006, 05:48:43 PM

Quote from: Crawley on October 27, 2006, 05:24:41 PM

I watched the Gary Gygax mini-documentary while Castlevania was downloading and actually sat through the whole thing. They do a pretty good job with the production values of their videos.

LOL, I did the exact same thing last night.
10639  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: My issues with... on: October 27, 2006, 05:37:38 PM
There are different levels of addiction, though.  In the example you cited, I think anyone would agree that your BIL has a serious problem.    If he refuses to see it as a problem, then he does deserve some measure of contempt.  However, I think it would be more contempt for his stubborness/willfull ignorance of his family's well-being rather than contempt simply because he's addicted.  One doesn't always come with the other.

In my case, I was/am addicted to chewing tobacco.   I haven't hurt anyone else with my addiction.  I haven't yet had any health problems due to my addiction.  It was actually a very relaxing habit that I quite enjoyed.  However, I'm quitting simply because I wanted to save a few $$ each month and I knew that it eventually may lead to some health issues.  What about that sort addiction would deserve to be "looked down on"?

Not trying to troll here, I'm honestly just curious as to the reasoning.
10640  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Playlist 27/Oct/06 on: October 27, 2006, 04:50:04 PM

Quote from: whiteboyskim on October 27, 2006, 04:32:23 PM

Going downstairs now to pound out another member...

Dude, there are a few things we just don't need to know about you.   icon_wink
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