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10601  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Persona 3 Thread of Yumyum Deliciousness (& impressions when they come...) on: July 20, 2007, 06:30:16 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on July 20, 2007, 05:40:56 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on July 20, 2007, 05:32:33 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on July 20, 2007, 05:24:04 PM

Persona 3???

I've never even heard of Persona 1 or 2.

They were on Playstation 1.  Person 2, in particular, was a very rare (and sought after), expensive game until it received a limited re-release a few years ago. 

Thanks for the info. 


Something tells me it might not be your cup o' tea denoginizer.  smile

I'm interested, but have had a really hard time getting into any of the Shin Megami Tensai games.  I always enjoy the artwork, style, and story, but for some reason the battle systems have really rubbed me the wrong way.  Doesn't look like this one is much different, so I'll regrettably be giving it a pass.  Besides, I've got my fair share of quirk with Odin Sphere arriving this week.
10602  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Playlist 20/Jul/07 on: July 20, 2007, 12:57:37 PM
With any luck, UPS will deliver Odin Sphere today and I can get started on that.  Otherwise, I'll be spending a ton of time with Baldur's Gate II on PC (I'm about halfway through Chapter 5).
10603  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Michael Vick Indicted on: July 18, 2007, 07:03:38 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on July 18, 2007, 06:28:26 PM

I am one of the very few people I know that likes Vic.  I always have.  And I am a huge proponent of innocent until...

Just not well enough to add the K on the end of his name?  slywink

My opinion on Vick has always been that he is an amazing athlete, a mediocre QB, and a complete waste as a human being.
10604  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Infinity Engine Marathon on: July 18, 2007, 05:35:32 PM
I started BG2 a couple weeks back, and am up to Chapter 5.  I'm a bit stuck, so I'm hoping I can find the solution and not just give up like I did on my previous 3 tries.
10605  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Michael Vick Indicted on: July 18, 2007, 01:42:40 PM
According to Len Pasquerelli's article, Fed's have a 95% conviction rate when they bring an indictment.  Not looking good for Vick.

If it is proven that he was involved, I hope he goes away for a long time.
10606  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: ASH - an RPG for the DS on: July 18, 2007, 01:28:48 AM
Cripes EddieA, how many times are you going to get me interested in an RPG I've never heard of before!  slywink

Looks very, very cool.  Definately going to be keeping an eye out for this one. 

10607  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] I IZ A N0UB. WAT TO GET WIT IT? on: July 17, 2007, 11:54:25 PM
For the love of Bob, make absolutely, positively, 100% sure you have some sort of warranty protection.  No matter how well you treat it, chances are it's going to crap out on you.
10608  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Disgaea 3 announced for PS3 on: July 17, 2007, 08:58:53 PM

Quote from: KePoW on July 17, 2007, 08:56:38 PM

wow, that looks awful

I'm all for old-school graphics charm (which the original Disgaea had in spades), but I'd tend agree with KePoW.    You'd think they would make at least a token effort to use some next-gen processing power, instead of simply churning out the same old early-gen PS2 graphics yet again.
10609  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Disgaea 3 announced for PS3 on: July 17, 2007, 08:29:44 PM
Why the Pink Power Ranger?
10610  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: My yogurt just gave me the money shot on: July 17, 2007, 06:30:47 PM
At least it bought you lunch.
10611  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Assasin's Creed..E3 Trailer... on: July 17, 2007, 02:53:48 PM

Quote from: Canuck on July 13, 2007, 01:35:45 AM

Cool looking game.  But did he really just do a swan dive from a hundred feet up into cart of straw???

I thought that was pretty silly as well.  Other than that, it looks very cool.
10612  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: XBox 360 warranty questions (and "support" gripes) on: July 17, 2007, 02:24:59 PM

Quote from: Jarrodhk on July 17, 2007, 01:57:29 PM

Sounds similar to the way my last two died.  Would just freeze after a few minutes.  It would have some visual artifacts when it froze.  I figure that the graphics card was overheating.

That was my thought as well.  If that's the case, it speaks volumes as to how poorly they're designed.  This system is sitting right next to an A/C vent and is completely out in the open.  There shouldn't be any heat issues with it at all.
10613  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Ok, on the count of three: on: July 17, 2007, 01:31:16 PM
"Three, sir."
10614  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: XBox 360 warranty questions (and "support" gripes) on: July 17, 2007, 01:24:15 PM
Well, so much for playing any GHII for the next month.  My system officially died last night.  No matter what I did with it (dashboard, games, DVD's, Live Arcade, etc.), the system would simply freeze up after 10-15 minutes.   After 90 minutes on the phone last night (60 minutes on hold, another 30 minutes answering questions), they agreed to send me a coffin and my system will be on it's way.  Here's how the conversation went:

MS Rep:  So what is the problem.
Me:  My 360 freezes up within 10-15 minutes, no matter what I'm doing.  No errors or red lights, all I can do is reboot.
MS Rep:  Could you tell me more about the freezing.
Me:  It completely locks up.  I can't do anything but reboot.
MS Rep:  Are you getting any error messages?
Me:  No, it simply locks.
MS Rep:  Are you getting any red lights?
Me:  No
MS Rep:  Describe the freezing.
Me: freezes up.  Nothing works.  I have to reboot.
MS Rep:  Can you describe the screen when it freezes?
Me:  It locks.  It stops.  It freezes.
MS Rep:  Do you see anything strange on the screen.
Me:  No.  It just stops.
MS Rep:  So you're saying it freezes, correct?
Me:  Yes.
MS Rep:  Is it doing anything else?
Me: Nope.  Just locking up.
MS Rep:  Could you describe how it looks when it locks up...

This same series of questions must have repeated itself at least 3 times during the conversation.  I was about ready to tear my hair out by the time she finally said "Sounds like a hardware error (no shit!).  We'll need to replace your unit".

I figured I'd be safe, as my unit is in a very well-ventilated area (sitting on top on a TV stand with nothing around it), the power brick is isolated by itself, and it really gets very light use (a couple hours of GHII a week).  Apparently these things go into the shitter even if situations are optimal.  I was told it would be 4-6 weeks before I got anything back, so I'm hoping it's repaired by the time Blue Dragon hits.   frown
10615  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: July 17, 2007, 12:00:32 PM

Quote from: javahead on July 17, 2007, 02:10:04 AM

It would be considered interference and the pitch would not count and the runners cannot advance. Besides, it was spring training. As for the ASPCA, that was David Winfield because it was an intentional throw at the bird. I don't listen to Rome often, but I am in Arizona and don't recall that Randy was ever in any trouble. He was rather upset about it.

On Aug. 4, 1983, Yankees outfielder Dave Winfield killed a seagull in Toronto with a warmup throw. The Ontario police charged him with animal cruelty, although the charge was later dropped.

That's the one I was thinking of.  Thanks Java.
10616  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: July 17, 2007, 12:06:22 AM

Quote from: GuidoTKP on July 16, 2007, 08:17:54 PM

Quote from: ROTC1983 on July 16, 2007, 07:42:18 PM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on July 16, 2007, 07:06:15 PM

That is nuts...


Did the pitch count?  I.e., was it treated as a ball?

I also remember Jim Rome making fun of the animal rights group that talked about legal action against Johnson for killing the bird.
10617  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: XBox 360 "support" on: July 16, 2007, 11:59:53 PM
Well they finally picked up, and now I'm more confused than I was when I started.  During the course of our conversation, I was told all of the following:

1.  The extended warranty extends 2 years from the end of the manufacturer's warranty.
1a.  The extended warranty extends only from the date it is purchased.

2.  The extended warranty will cover any repairs, no matter how many times you have to send the system in.
2a.  I will need to buy a new warranty policy if (when) I have to send in my system for service.

3.  I cannot purchase the extended warranty until 90 days prior to the end of the original warranty (which is April 14, 2008)
3a.  I can purchase the extended warranty today.

The guy contradicted himself at least 5 different times during the conversation.  I was so frustrated by the end that I just gave up and figured I'd call back tomorrow and hope for someone else.

Can any of you guys that have had warranty issues help a brother out?
10618  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / XBox 360 warranty questions (and "support" gripes) on: July 16, 2007, 11:31:14 PM
I want to extend the warranty on my most-likely-soon-to-be-dead 360, and also to turn off the auto-renewal for my Live subscription.  I called their 800 # and asked for the billing department.  I figured since they're the ones that take my money, they'd be the ones to answer my warranty questions.  A nice rep picked up within 2 minutes and turned off the auto-renew within a couple minutes.  However, he said I would need to talk to someone in their technical department in order to answer any warranty questions.  He would transfer me.

That was at 4:55 MST.

It's now 5:30 MST, and I'm still on hold.  At this point, I've just put the phone on speaker and figured I'll leave it until someone answers.  The sad thing is, after they answer my two simple questions (1.  Does the extended warranty start from the purchase date or the date the manufacturer warranty expires?  2.  If/When my current system dies and they send a replacement, does the warranty period extend on this replacement unit for the full 2 years?), they'll probably have to transfer me back to the billing dept to take my money.   it'll be interesting to see how long I have to stay on hold...
10619  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I finally got Big Bad Broadband - now what? on: July 16, 2007, 05:56:43 PM
pr0n  Errr...ummm...yeah, just pr0n
10620  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (7/16) on: July 16, 2007, 01:57:27 PM
Possibly Hot Shots Tennis.  I loved Hot Shots Golf, so that one might be worth a look.
10621  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Who's more excited about Guitar Hero 3 than Rock Band? (why?) on: July 16, 2007, 01:02:22 PM
Both Rock Band and GH3 will be day one purchases, but I'm far, far, far more excited for Rock Band.  Everything I hear and see about Rock Band makes it look better and better (weekly downloads, full albums, the drumset, etc.), while everything about GH3 is the exact opposite (ridiculous boss battles, incredibly stupid random "powerups", questionable DLC, etc.).  Rock Band seems to be doing it right in that they're simply making it all about the music.  No gimmicks, nothing silly, just a game that actually makes you feel like you're playing an instrument in a band.  GH3 seems to be trying to hammer home the point that you are, in fact, just playing a video game on a silly plastic guitar.  It's a subtle difference in principle, but a huge one in execution.  Those Harmonix guys certainly know what they're doing.  smile

It's been an interesting shift, as I was originally far more psyched for GH3 and thought Rock Band was just silly.  Funny how things can change.
10622  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: FS: Overlord (360) - Price dropped on: July 14, 2007, 06:06:16 PM
One last bump before E-Bay.
10623  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution on: July 14, 2007, 12:43:14 PM

Quote from: Lee on July 14, 2007, 06:09:50 AM

Quote from: EddieA on July 14, 2007, 05:55:32 AM

Gamespot has some new info and screenshots here.

Wow, looks horrible.

I actually think the character models and backgrounds looked really good.   It's too zoomed in, but I would assume you could back out for a larger world view.

I'm disappointed there's no DS shots, though, as that's the version I'm most interested in.
10624  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So, What are your most anticipated games for the rest of 2007? on: July 13, 2007, 01:00:48 PM
-  Rock Band
-  Blue Dragon
-  Mass Effect
-  Guitar Hero 3
-  Assassin's Creed
10625  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Blue Dragon demo up! on: July 12, 2007, 10:58:00 PM

Quote from: GatorFavre on July 12, 2007, 10:13:52 PM

All I said was I didnt feel like having to learn how to play the game just to play the game. 

This quote brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department.  slywink
10626  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band - now with more awesomeness on: July 12, 2007, 05:02:57 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on July 12, 2007, 04:10:45 PM

Quote from: Gratch on July 12, 2007, 04:08:34 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on July 12, 2007, 04:03:34 PM

Wow... I'm so sick of hearing "Tom Sawyer".  And "Spirit of Radio".  There are more than two Rush songs, people!!!

[edit]  Hmm... the entire track list looks like it was pulled from listening to an hour of a typical "playlist classic rock" station.

When you find a classic rock station that plays Nirvana, Weezer, The Ramones, Stone Temple Pilots, and Queens of the Stone Age, please be sure to let me know.  slywink

Aside from Queens of the Stone Age... just search the dial.  They all do.

The most disappointing time in your life is when songs released while you were in high school start getting played on classic rock stations.

They apparently have a different definition of "classic rock station" where you live.  They don't play anything recorded past 1980 on the ones around here.
10627  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band - now with more awesomeness on: July 12, 2007, 04:08:34 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on July 12, 2007, 04:03:34 PM

Wow... I'm so sick of hearing "Tom Sawyer".  And "Spirit of Radio".  There are more than two Rush songs, people!!!

[edit]  Hmm... the entire track list looks like it was pulled from listening to an hour of a typical "playlist classic rock" station.

When you find a classic rock station that plays Nirvana, Weezer, The Ramones, Stone Temple Pilots, and Queens of the Stone Age, please be sure to let me know.  slywink
10628  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Guitar Hero Track Pack 4 on: July 12, 2007, 03:16:05 PM

Quote from: Captain Caveman on July 12, 2007, 02:51:06 PM

Fuck them.

What he said.

What a complete joke (and a wasted opportunity) the DLC has become.  Between the complete robbery they're charging for DLC and my 360 crapping out, it makes me wish I had kept my PS2 version.  frown
10629  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Win a Copy of Jade Empire SE for PC on: July 12, 2007, 02:17:32 PM
10630  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fable 2 preview on: July 12, 2007, 01:45:17 PM

Quote from: Destructor on July 12, 2007, 04:26:23 AM

The original was a good game (good, not great) IF you didn't fall into the uber-mega-hyper-insane hype that the game generated before launch.

Yep. nod

I really enjoyed Fable for what it was (a fun hack-n-slash game with a social mechanic that was somewhat interesting, if a bit shallow) rather than be disappointed by what it wasn't (the end-all-be-all of RPG's that Moleneaux promised).  I tend to ignore everything he says prior to the game's release, then just judge it on it's own merits.
10631  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: And so my 360 comes to an end... on: July 12, 2007, 01:40:25 PM
Mine is actually still under the 1 year warranty, so thankfully I'll be fine without having to fake a 3 RROD error.
10632  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Have you had XBox 360 problems? on: July 12, 2007, 01:10:09 AM
Figured I'd resurrect this, since my 360 has now died.  The failure rate on these systems still just astounds me.  My system has had very minimal, very gentle use, and has still managed to crap out.   
10633  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Warranty questions, since my 360 seems to be dying on: July 12, 2007, 01:07:18 AM
OK, one more question.  Can you purchase the extended warranty after the original unit has been sent in for service?  I won't have the money for a couple weeks, but my 360 is now locking even when I just try to play a DVD, so it's fairly useless. 
10634  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Warranty questions, since my 360 seems to be dying on: July 12, 2007, 12:01:32 AM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on July 11, 2007, 11:59:10 PM

I thought Microsoft's new 3-year warranty policy meant that you didn't need to purchase anything additional to have this work covered for free...?

-Autistic Angel

Only on those systems that die with 3 RROD, which mine isn't.  It randomly freezes up, but there's no RROD error when I reset it.

One other question:  The only thing on the hard drive I care about is my Guitar Hero II save file.  Can that be transferred to a standard USB memory stick, or do you have to get a specific 360 memory card?
10635  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band - now with more awesomeness on: July 11, 2007, 11:53:42 PM
Dayum.   That's just... dude  dudeicon_eek

I remember hearing something about a Guitar Hero 3 game, but it's been drowned out by the sheer potential awesomeness of Rock Band.
10636  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / And so my 360 comes to an end... on: July 11, 2007, 11:50:44 PM
My 360 started acting funny last week, and my guess is that it's going to crap out in the near future.  I got the 1 RROD last week error (solved by a reboot), and last night it simply froze up twice in the middle of games (once in GHII and once in NCAA 08.  Again, both solved by a reboot).  No RROD, the system just completely locked after about 20 minutes of play.  I set the Blue Dragon demo to start this afternoon, and it hard locked once during the dl process.  My gut feeling is that it will be giving up the ghost pretty soon.

A couple questions, since I can't get through to X-Box this afternoon (was on hold for 45 minutes before giving up):

1.  The original warranty is 1 year from date of purchase (Feb 07 for this unit).  If I splurge for the extended 2-year warranty, is it 2 years from the date I purchase the warranty, or 2 years from the date the original warranty expires?

2.  If I have to send the system in and get a new refurb unit, does the warranty period start over for the new unit?  (unlikely, but figured I'd ask).  Sub-question:  Is there any good way to avoid the dreaded refurb loop, or are you pretty much just screwed once you send your system in?

3.  Is the 2-year plan a flat fee, or do they prorate it based on how much time you have left on your original warranty?

I was hoping I'd be one of the lucky 50% without problems, but it's looking more and more like that's not going to happen.  Sad thing is, the system is as ventilated as it can possibly be (sitting on the top of a TV stand with nothing over or around it, power brick isolated by itself about 3 feet away) and has been very gently used.  Hopefully if I get it in now, I can get it back by the time Blue Dragon comes out.  frown
10637  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Blue Dragon demo up! on: July 11, 2007, 11:31:07 PM

Quote from: rrmorton on July 11, 2007, 10:45:52 PM

I'm with Gratch. I'm looking forward to getting this game, but I have absolutely no interest in playing an hour (give or take) in the middle of the story.

Which is fortunate, since my 360 just died last night. biggrin

If it's any consolation, mine seems to be dying tonight.  frown
10638  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Blue Dragon demo up! on: July 11, 2007, 08:17:13 PM
Outside of basic game mechanics, it's really tough to get a feeling for a 40+ hour game from a 30 minute demo.  I find that RPG demos are rarely representative of the final product, and (usually) actively dislike them, no matter how good the final game turns out to be.  Case in point:  I hated every single thing about the FF XII demo, but ended up spending 75+ hours with the final game.

The JRPG "back-to-basics" premise of BD is one of the major selling points for me.  Truth be told, BD is the main reason I got a 360 at all, so this demo won't really change my mind one way or the other.
10639  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: FLASHING RED RINGS! (But good timing, huh?) on: July 11, 2007, 02:39:28 PM
Mine did a random freeze twice last night.  Once during GH II and once during the NCAA 08 demo.  There's a small beep, then the entire system completely locks.  I booted it back up without a problem (no RROD), but it kept doing it.

This, combined with the single RROD I got last week, is starting to make me really nervous.  frown
10640  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLA] Golden Axe and Sonic The Hedgehog on: July 11, 2007, 12:57:32 PM
Meh.  I'll play them on Gametap instead.
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