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10441  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: December 15, 2006, 03:21:07 PM

Quote from: EddieA on December 15, 2006, 06:11:00 AM

Check the FAQ from Shotgunnova at GameFAQs.  There's a list near the end that gives the locations of the shops at which these can be bought.

That's what I needed.  Thanks Eddie!
10442  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: December 15, 2006, 05:24:28 AM
Anyone know where the hell to find the top level spells?  I've got licenses for Scathe, Hasteaga, and Renew, but can't find them for sale from a single merchant in the game.  Storywise, I'm at the "point of no return" (the final battle area is opened up, and there's no turning back once I go), and I would think they'd be available by now.
10443  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: At Last: Recognition for a Job Well Done! on: December 14, 2006, 03:58:59 PM
At least you didn't get enrolled in the "Jelly of the Month" club.   Although it is the gift that keeps on giving the whole year...
10444  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: December 13, 2006, 10:46:58 PM

Quote from: semiconscious on December 13, 2006, 10:35:46 PM

Quote from: farley2k on December 13, 2006, 08:09:56 PM

I played a bit last night...I am around 30 hours...I am losing the fire a bit.   I spent most of my time being annoyed last night at the gambit system.  It is a great leap forward but it has a ton of room for improvement.  Last night I had Vaan set to steal from enemy at 100%...and of course I got mobbed so I had to manually keep forcing him to focus on a single enemy until dead.  Finally I just had to shut off that gambit altogether.  I haven't found a good steal gambit and it is annoying because money is so hard to come by. 


that's pretty much the gambit i used the whole game - i'd have a light armor support-type fighter (controlled character) do the stealing while my tank would close in. if i hit a rough area, i'd switch it off / manually attack, or, later in the game, have 'lure' (arguably the best spell in the game) permanently cast on the tank. it wasn't perfect, but it worked for me pretty well...

Stealing was driving me nuts as well, until I set it up on a support character instead of my main.   I usually play the tank, so this allowed me to take out enemies while my support guys picked their pockets.  It's not a perfect, but it worked better than keeping it assigned to my main character.  Also, it doesn't work as well in the late game since you need all the firepower you can get to take out the higher level mobs. 

I agree that the Decoy (or Lure) spell is awesome.  Using it as crowd control is the only way I've been able to get past some of the tougher bosses.  One small gripe is that you don't get a lot of the most useful Gambits until late in the game.  I think it would have been a lot easier if they just opened them all up from the start.
10445  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: December 13, 2006, 07:47:36 PM

Quote from: Farscry on December 13, 2006, 06:21:07 PM

The whole group is now 36 after a bit of mark hunting last night. I think the enemies I'm running into in the newest area I've been to are in the mid thirties, a few above and below 35.

I just sincerely hope I'm not overlevelled. At least the mark fights have stayed challenging (I'm refusing to use Quickenings except as desperation moves, as I want to have the challenge of trying to get through the fights without them icon_smile), and when I hit new areas the enemies aren't simple pushovers. I also ran into an esper fight in the Zertinian Caverns that totally stomped me (I won't explain why; it was a nice surprise) so I retreated for now. I looked it up afterward out of curiosity, and it's listed as the first optional esper I should try to acquire, so that made me happy that they look to be a fair challenge to get through. icon_biggrin

Sounds like your levels are just about right, actually.  That Esper you found is around 43-45 level, iirc.  He was a tough fight, even with all my characters in the mid-40's.
10446  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [DS and PSP] More Final Fantasy Tactics Goodness! on: December 13, 2006, 06:05:27 PM

Quote from: Misguided on December 13, 2006, 05:48:28 PM

So Square has FIVE RPGs announced for DS (Front Mission 1st, FFXII Revenant Wings, FFCC: RIng of Fates, DQIX, Heroes of Mana) and possibly a FFTA sequel as well?

Wow.

Damn, that officially kicks ass.  I was thinking about ditching my DS a couple months back, but now it's definitely a keeper.

There's also a Xenosaga DS game, a Baten Kaitos spin-off, Disciples II, and it's even been rumored that a Heroes of Might & Magic game might make an appearance!  Good time to own a DS.   icon_smile
10447  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: December 13, 2006, 05:13:35 PM

Quote from: Farscry on December 13, 2006, 04:56:41 PM

I also take time reading everything and talking to everyone, which adds time too. As well as traveling, checking some areas a few times to try to get better treasure, and that sort of thing. I was afraid I was getting overlevelled, but keeping my whole crew levelling together paid off since I'm generally either at or just a bit above the level of stuff when I go to new areas.

Just out of sheer curiosity, what level are your characters?  I've been keeping my levels together as well, and I think that has added a pretty significant amount of play time to the game.  Not that that's a bad thing, mind you..
10448  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [DS and PSP] More Final Fantasy Tactics Goodness! on: December 13, 2006, 05:11:40 PM

Quote from: warning on December 13, 2006, 04:39:04 PM

Back on topic I bought the original Final Fantasy Tactics twice and the GBA version twice also.  Traded both away.  I think what spoiled me was playing Fire Emblem then trying to play FFT.  I just got spoiled by Fire Emblem's tension and not having to fart around in the menus for 1/4 of the game.

Third time's a charm right?

Heh, I was exactly the opposite.  After playing FFT & FFTA, I found that FE's puzzle-oriented maps drove me absolutely nuts.  Seemed like if you didn't move your characters in the exact way the devs intended, that you didn't stand a chance of winning.  Ended up selling both FE games with less than 10 hours play time.

FWIW, it took me 3 tries to get into FFT.  Bought it when it was originally released (soon after I finished FFVII), and was expecting the same type of RPG.  You can probably imagine my reaction with those sort of exepctations.  Tried about a year later and got frustrated with the learning curve.  Finally tried it for a third time when it went Greatest Hits, and it just "clicked" with me.

I loved FFTA right from the get-go, but I can certainly see how it would put people off.  The Laws could make things very restricting, the characters were kids, and the skills-tied-to-items concept certainly took some getting used to. 
10449  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: December 13, 2006, 04:29:35 PM

Quote from: Farscry on December 13, 2006, 04:16:43 PM

This is so awesome. I'm 62.5 hours in, and having a complete blast. This and Dragon Quest 8 both exceeded my hopes in every respect for how good I was hoping the games would be. icon_biggrin

If you're curious how far I am:

Spoiler for Hiden:
I'm working on hunting marks and sidequests for now; storywise, I'm just past the point where Judge Borgan (I think?) killed the Gran Kiltias and I fought him at Mt. Burmisace. Now we're supposed to be heading to Archadia to get to the Draklor Laboratory. I'm having a blast exploring and sidequesting now that several new areas are accessible, then I'll start progressing in the story again. icon_smile

Wow, you must be doing a ton of hunts and side-quest stuff.  I hit that story point around 45 hours, and that was with what I thought to be a pretty significant amount of leveling and hunts.
10450  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [DS and PSP] More Final Fantasy Tactics Goodness! on: December 13, 2006, 04:27:21 PM

Quote from: Farscry on December 13, 2006, 04:06:40 PM

Quote from: Gratch on December 13, 2006, 03:55:14 PM

FFT has possibly the greatest story ever told in gaming form

You haven't played through the original Tactics Ogre, have you? icon_wink The story easily rivals the original FFT's. And even better, it actually has a few branching paths that make a fairly significant difference.

The actual combat scenarios in TO were awesome, but the training system... ye gods, the training system was AWFUL. I far preferred going through encounters in FFT to work up my team rather than the training system in TO.

I've always wanted to try TO, but never lucked into finding a copy.  And there's no way I'm paying $100+ for a game I've never played before.  I did play the one released on GBA, but wasn't all that impressed with it. 
10451  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [DS and PSP] More Final Fantasy Tactics Goodness! on: December 13, 2006, 03:55:14 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on December 13, 2006, 03:49:30 PM

Hmmm.... Is this the next genre I need to discover? 

Some research may be in order.  First off, finding out what FFTA stands for.   :slywink:

There were a couple different Final Fantasy Tactics games released:

-  FFT = Final Fantasy Tactics.  Released on the PS1 between FFVII & FFVIII (1998'ish, IIRC)
-  FFTA = Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.   Released for the Game Boy Advance

I highly recommend checking them out if you haven't already.  Gameplay style is different from FFXII (the Tactics games are turn based strategy.  Think Advance Wars or Fire Emblem for reference.), but the world is the same.  They all take place in Ivalice, which is one of my personal favorite game settings.  FFT has possibly the greatest story ever told in gaming form, but has a very steep learning curve.  FFTA was lighter on the story (the story was very "kiddie", especially for the first few hours.  This turned a lot of people off.), but it was a much easier game to pick up and play.  Ultimately, I enjoyed FFTA more, but they're both superb games.

I would highly, highly recommend giving both of them a shot.

10452  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [DS and PSP] More Final Fantasy Tactics Goodness! on: December 13, 2006, 03:43:37 PM
May I be the first to say...

WOO HOO!!!!

FFTA is still the game I've put the most hours into (100+), and the prospect of a sequel just makes me all kinds of giddy.   icon_biggrin icon_biggrin icon_biggrin
10453  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Left Behind: Eternal Forces - huh? what? on: December 13, 2006, 02:08:07 PM
From the article:

Quote
Left Behind is a real-time strategy and adventure game. Players don't role-play like in Grand Theft Auto -- it's more like the board game Risk than Clue.

Since when did GTA become an RPG?
10454  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: December 13, 2006, 01:01:17 PM


10455  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: December 12, 2006, 10:29:10 PM

Quote from: Luke on December 12, 2006, 10:05:26 PM

I need a slight hint.  Please don't spoil it for me, just give me a nudge in the right direction.  40 hours played. 

Spoiler for Hiden:
I'm at the temple that comes after meeting with the Gran Kiltias at Mt. Bur Omisace.  I'm supposed to be retrieving a King Raithwall sword that is able to destroy nethicite.  I'm in the initial chamber of the temple.  There are two locked doors at the bottom of two stairwells at the sides of the chamber.  There's a deactivated teleporter at the far end of the room.  There's a pedestal near the entrance to the room.  Whenever I activate this pedestal, 3 zombies appear and attack.  I've tried activating the pedestal with Ashe because it says something about a relic or somesuch that seemed like a reference to the Dawn Shard.  No luck.  I'm a bit stuck here.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Equip someone with the Dawn Shard (it's a equippable accessory that gives a big bump to MP resistance, but sets MP to 0), then touch the pedestal.  I don't think it has to be Ashe, but that's who I used.
10456  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dragon Quest IX on the DS?(confirmed) on: December 12, 2006, 07:17:44 PM

Quote from: Tebunker on December 12, 2006, 05:31:31 PM


Not sure what to think of that.  It looks more like DQIX:  Baldur's Gate than anything else.  Not saying hack n' slash is bad per se, but it's certainly not what I'd expect from a DQ title.
10457  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Puzzle Quest for DS/PSP on: December 12, 2006, 02:48:33 PM
Huh, I'm intrigued.  I burned out on Meteos, so I need a new puzzler.  Although I might have to break down and pick up the Disney Meteos when it's released.
10458  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dragon Quest IX on the DS?(confirmed) on: December 12, 2006, 02:43:47 PM

Quote from: Hetz on December 12, 2006, 02:33:42 PM




LOL   icon_lol

This is actually good news for me, as I don't plan on picking up a Wii or PS3 anytime soon.  Besides, my DS has been gathering dust for a while and need a good RPG jumpstart to get it going again.
10459  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: December 12, 2006, 01:11:29 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on December 12, 2006, 12:46:03 PM

Question:   Looking ahead, how do I know what level I should be at certain parts of the story?  I enjoy the combat, but I don't go looking to fight things (at least so far).  I think Vaan and Penelo (so cute!) are around level 4 or 5 at the moment.  Do I get experience for completing missions, or is it just from killing things?

FFXII is one of the most well-balanced games I've ever played, and it's pretty good about letting you know what level you should be at.  Basically, if you get to the next area for the story and everything is kicking your ass, you might want to spend a bit of time levelling up before proceeding (see the next point).  The guide will also show you the level of the enemies in each area, which you can use as a reference point.  Your characters should really be within a couple levels of all the enemies you're fighting.

I really only found a couple of spots that I needed to level grind before proceeding, and even then it was only 30-45 minutes max.

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Do I need to be killing things just to kill them every so often? 

You should always be killing things just to kill them.    icon_wink  Remember that your characters gain both XP (to advance levels) and LP (to purchase licenses) every time you kill an enemy.  Keep in mind, however, that while all party members get LP for kills, only the active members get the XP.  When you have a larger party, it's a good idea to swap characters in and out so you don't level one group too far out in front of the others.

Quote
Do I get experience for completing missions, or is it just from killing things?

You only get XP from killing monsters.  There's no XP awarded for quests.  Also, it's good to note that the bosses give LP only.  This is one of my very minor gripes about the game, but it's not really that big of a deal.
10460  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Have you had XBox 360 problems? on: December 12, 2006, 12:52:39 AM
Huh, the poll is dead even at 22.  While I realize that you can't glean too much from so small a sample size, I know that most people here are serious gamers and tend to take better care of their equipment than most.  I put a bit more stock into the opinions around here than those of some anonymous internet survey claiming X% failure.

That being said, a 50% failure rate among our crowd is astounding and does raise some serious red flags.   Since there's nothing I'm really dying to play for the 360 right now, I think that I'll wait at least until the summer before looking at one again.  Thanks for all the input!   icon_smile
10461  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Does'nt feel like Christmas on: December 11, 2006, 10:17:43 PM
I'm feeling the same way.  The combination of unseasonably warm weather, lack of snow, no time (or desire) to put up Christmas decorations, a ridiculously busy work schedule for both of us, and knowing that we're only doing one small present each has sucked most of the fun out of what is normally my favorite time of year.

Sucks.   :icon_sad:
10462  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: December 11, 2006, 10:14:32 PM

Quote from: semiconscious on December 11, 2006, 10:08:34 PM

Quote from: Nth Power on December 11, 2006, 09:02:20 PM

I ended up "wasting" some LPs on unnecessary licenses just to get my characters their second and third quickenings.  I had originally planned to get them as I needed them, but I really needed the additional MPs.   I did have a plan in mind before I did this though, so all three of one characters quickenings were in one section of the board.

did the same, eventually (once i had the lp to spare), & kinda looked at it more as an 'investment' than a waste (especially when a character's heading in that direction, anyway)...

Me too.  Once you have the LP to do it, making a bee-line for the Quickenings is a no brainer.

Unless you're an idiot like me and don't realize Quickenings gave you more mana points (this was over 40 hours in, btw).  And I wondered why I was struggling in boss battles!   icon_redface
10463  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (12/11) on: December 11, 2006, 10:06:49 PM

Quote from: rrmorton on December 11, 2006, 09:40:34 PM

I watched the gameplay videos for Elebits recently and despite the game's quirky charm, it doesn't look too promising.

What have we heard about Super Swing Golf for the Wii? I love Wii Sports golf (even though it's a stripped-down experience) so I'm eagerly awaiting a great Wii golf game. Could it be here already?

EDIT: I found one good review posted so far. Gamebrink gave it a 91. Looks like Final Hot Shots Fantasy Golf. I prefer realistic golf sims but I'll take anything I can get that's golf related on the Wii.



That looks just like Albatross 18.  The PC version was a fantastically fun (and free) golf MMO.  There were a bunch of people playing it over on OO for a while.  Not sure if anyone still plays, but it certainly was a blast. 
10464  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: December 11, 2006, 08:11:58 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on December 11, 2006, 07:51:04 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on December 11, 2006, 07:39:14 PM

Thank you Gratch.  #1, 3, 4 sound great, and I will keep those things in mind.  However, I have no clue what augment means.  Is that like adding a a chip to my head to make me see in the dark or something, like in Deus Ex?  (sorry, I really don't understand, I'm not being funny here.)

Also, let's say I get like 10 hours in and decide I like it enough to try to finish the game.  Do I invest in the guide?  I've seen it in the stores, and it is like an encyclopedia.  What exactly is in there!?!  If you were a brand new person to the series and the game, would you get it?



Augments are a section of the license board- they are in the lower left hand portion of the upper board.  They give you stat boosts and the like.  Very, very important for an effective character.

And, yes, get the guide.  It's a great guide to begin with and will probably save you a lot of headaches layer, especially since you seem to be new to the genre. 

+1 to what Kevin said.  You'll see the augments as you work further into the license board.  They will be things like +100 HP, Increase Magik Power, Increase Speed 10%,  Improve physical damage, etc.  They're essential to building good characters.

I'd recommend getting the guide.  It really is fantastic and can be a huge help.
10465  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Have you had XBox 360 problems? on: December 11, 2006, 05:39:31 PM

Quote from: jblank on December 11, 2006, 05:19:17 PM

You realize that by starting this thread, all of us that answer "no" are now doomed to have the red lights of death today.

Heh, sorry about that.   icon_wink

So far, this is making me lean towards waiting.  It looks like there's a ridiculous amount of failure with these units, and I just really don't want to worry about that.  I think I'll probably wait until a few more of the RPG's hit.
10466  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: December 11, 2006, 05:37:11 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on December 11, 2006, 05:01:41 PM

Well, a friend of mine let me borrow this finally.

I really like it so far.  I just started and haven't read past page two of this thread.

I like the way it feels like I'm playing a story, or a movie, or something.  This whole type of game is SO new for me - I don't have any clue whatsoever what to expect... that's probably part of the fun.

Wheeee!!!!!

If I may, a couple tips that might help you avoid some of the early game mistakes I made:

1.   Do not spend license points on any weapon/item/accessory/magic that isnt available through the shops yet. Remember, youll need to both buy weapon/magic/etc and unlock the license before you can use it.
2.   Augment, augment, augment.  Work on getting as many augments as possible for your characters.  Licenses that add HP, Speed, Magic, Melee damage, etc are all a huge help in battles.
3.   Have a concept in mind as you develop your characters.  This is maybe just a personal preference, but I found that having an idea of what I wanted each character to be helped a great deal in deciding what licenses and upgrades to take.  I.E.  Penelo and Fran are my ranged weapon healers, so I never bothered spending LP on heavy armor or melee weapons for them. 
4.   Remember that even low level enemies still give LP to the entire party.  If youre looking to specifically grind out a few license points, you can just as easily get them against low level enemies as high level

I have to admit, Im a bit jealous of your position.  Having played so many FF games (and JRPGs in general), one tends to get pretty jaded.  Thankfully, FFXII is one of those rare games that has an incredible addicting magic to it.  Have fun!
10467  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (12/11) on: December 11, 2006, 04:50:15 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on December 11, 2006, 04:40:00 PM

Quote from: Gratch on December 11, 2006, 03:26:30 PM

Might pick up FFIII (DS) if I actually finish up FFXII this week.

Please ignore my constant minor derails of this thread  (I know I do it every week too, sorry).

But

How many hours have you logged into this game so far Gratch?  Do you think you're very close to finishing?  Does it give you a little gauge to know how close you are, or is it more of a story thing that tells you that you're almost done?  Thanks.


I'm just over 70 hours right now.  My guess is that it will take another 12-15 hours to finish everything I want to.  I've got the guide, so I'm basing my estimates on that.  All 6 party members are between levels 51-49, I've finished a little over half the hunts (I'm not going to bother with all of them), done a few of the side quests, and am generally pretty happy about how it's progressed.

Going to try and put an update in the FFXII impressions thread later today with a few more thoughts.  FWIW, even at 70 hours (which is the by far the most time I've put into an RPG since FFVII), it's not slowing down or dragging at all.  Once I got over the small hump at around 50 hours, I can easily say that FFXII is one of the best games I've played since...well...ever.
10468  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Have you had XBox 360 problems? on: December 11, 2006, 03:41:33 PM

Quote from: IkeVandergraaf on December 11, 2006, 03:34:31 PM

I should add, however, that aside from the reliability issues, the 360 is a damn fine console, and is really beginning to hit its stride gamewise.  All things considered, I do recommend getting one.

To be honest, there's not really a lot of games that interest me yet.  However, the list of announced RPG's is making my trigger finger a bit itchy.  I just get nervous dropping the $$ on something if there's a ridiculously high probability of it crapping out.

So, part of me says "Buy Now" and part of me says "Wait for the must-have games and (hopefully) a more stable system".  So torn...
10469  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (12/11) on: December 11, 2006, 03:26:30 PM
Might pick up FFIII (DS) if I actually finish up FFXII this week.
10470  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Have you had XBox 360 problems? on: December 11, 2006, 03:20:40 PM
One of my main reservations with picking up a 360 is that it sounds like they have a ridiculously high failure rate.  Seems like every day someone here is posting something about the "red rings of death" or other problems, and getting the thing fixed is apparently a complete pain in the ass. 

However, as with any consumer item, those with problems tend to be the most vocal while you never hear a peep from those whose systems work fine.  So, to help me make my decision, here's a quick spot poll to determine what the "have problems:don't have problems" ratio is.
10471  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: FF12 :revanant wings DS trailer on: December 11, 2006, 04:32:15 AM

Quote from: metallicorphan on December 11, 2006, 02:17:51 AM

here is a trailer for the DS game final fantasy 12 revanant wings...looks good,but doesnt have gameplay footage

i still have 2 months to wait until final fantasy 12 is released for the ps2 crybaby


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr7CA0ud8jA

sorry if this has already been posted,i may of missed it...as i tried to stay away from all final fantasy 12 threads,LOL..and at the time kingdom hearts 2 threads as well

Wait....wha...?  I didn't even know about this game.  That just made my night! 
10472  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / What does that make us Sir? Big Damn Heroes. on: December 09, 2006, 06:43:42 PM
Ain't we just.

Saw this over on OO.  Firefly con gets cancelled at the last minute, but the actors show up anyways and throw an impromptu fan event.  Damn, that's cool.
10473  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Firefly Returns! on: December 09, 2006, 01:27:19 AM
Just for kicks, I give you:

Hand puppet Serenity

Major spoilers if you haven't seen the movie, but damn funny.
10474  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 300 Trailer - HOLY CRAP!!! EDIT: NEW TRAILER OUT!!! on: December 08, 2006, 09:18:58 PM

Quote from: whiteboyskim on December 08, 2006, 02:50:34 AM

If nothing else it'll look amazing much like Sin City. That movie sucked royal ass but I have high hopes 300 does not. We'll see come March.

I'm with ya on Sin City, but 300 looks pretty kick ass.
10475  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: They Might Be Giants on: December 08, 2006, 07:49:56 PM
Love TMBG, and was actually listening to their first album on the drive home last night.  "Chess Piece Face" is possibly the most bizzare song ever written.
10476  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Firefly Returns! on: December 08, 2006, 05:15:28 PM
That sucks.  I would love nothing more than to see Firefly continue in some form, but have zero interest in an MMORPG.
10477  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Line for BD in Japan...world ending soon on: December 08, 2006, 03:44:28 PM

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on December 08, 2006, 02:55:49 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on December 07, 2006, 08:38:57 PM

I just have never seen people line up for a game before.  A console yes.  But a game?



If you think that's a line you should check out what happens in Japan when a Dragon Quest game is released. I don't know if it's an urban legend or not, but I've heard that there is a law that requires any new Dragon Quest game to be released on the weekend; otherwise, too many people skip work and school to get the game.  eek

Yep, it's true.  From this link:

Dragon Quest III did more than just hook Japan on it though. Dragon Quest in Japan is more of a cultural phenomenon than pretty much any game in the US, with the possible exception of Mario Brothers. Dragon Quest III made one critical mistake that changed the fabric of game history forever in Japan though: It was released on a weekday. This lead to anarchy for a day as millions called in sick, waiting in line just to get the game. Japan's legislatures were not slow to act, enforcing a now historic law that bans Dragon Quest from ever being released in Japan on a weekday. This law is still in effect today, as each Dragon Quest entry is met with millions still copping out of a day of work.
10478  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official Sales Numbers for November on: December 08, 2006, 02:46:53 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on December 08, 2006, 01:48:50 AM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on December 08, 2006, 01:33:51 AM

Quote from: Canuck on December 08, 2006, 01:12:51 AM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on December 08, 2006, 12:21:15 AM


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PS2 664K
REPLACEMENT UNITS for dead PS2s.  Well, that and Kobra buying his.


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360 511.3K
I suspect that we'll see this number rise before the end of the year.  Last second "OMG, I can't find a PS3 or Wii!" purchases.

Hello Xbox bias anyone?  The PS2 is still oustandingly successful and that is simply chalked up to 'replacement for dead PS2's' ?  Judging by most of the complaints on these forums lately I'd have to say that it's the Xbox 360 that has inflated statistics due to breakdowns!  Perhaps it says a lot that people would rather replace their PS2 than buy an Xbox.

As for the PSP, I dunno it's doin ok.  Obviously Nintendo is kicking it's ass but it's not too far behind the PS2 and Xbox 360 in sales.

I've gone through 9 PS2s in the lifecycle of the system.  How is that for 'replacement PS2s'?  I don't have a bias any particular direction - I just like games.  I own all platforms.

I have to agree there.  Personally I have purchased 3 PS2 over the console's lifespan.  And I wouldn't consider myself a big PS2 gamer.  I just feel like I have to have one in the house, but they keep dieing on me.  retard

Christ, what are you people doing to your PS2's?  Maybe we're just lucky, but both my brother and I have launch PS2's with thousands of hours of use, and neither of us have ever had a single problem.  You do realize you're not supposed to use the system as a punching bag, right?   icon_wink

IMO, the PS2's strong sales are a combination of a)  people can't get a PS3, b)  it's cheap, and c) there have been some ridiculously good games released for it over the last few months.  The one that shocks me is GBA sales.  With the DS out there, I can't think of a reason why anyone would want a GBA.
10479  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS2: Rogue Galaxy on: December 08, 2006, 02:36:28 PM
I've been a little leery about Rogue Galaxy because I burned out big time on both DC2 & DQVIII.  Not because they were bad games, but because they were just so damn huge I felt like I was never getting anywhere.  However, I've been getting more and more interested the more I read, and I'm really leaning towards picking up RG.

FWIW, my copy of GI arrived yesterday and they gave it a 9. 
10480  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Playlist 8/Dec/06 on: December 08, 2006, 02:33:06 PM
I have had absolutely zero gaming time this week, so I'm hoping to be able to put in a marathon FFXII session over the weekend.  I think I'm nearing the homestretch at 55+ hours, and I really want to push through and finish.
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