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10001  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So I'm getting a 360... on: March 27, 2007, 02:11:20 PM

Quote from: Calvin on March 27, 2007, 02:01:19 PM

Quote from: Purge on March 27, 2007, 01:11:49 PM

I wouldn't worry to much about it being down; it's a rare occurance. I think maybe 3 times in the past year and a half. (IIRC).

As to arcade racers, I'd say burnout is the best they have right now. I hear good things about NFS:MW ... never played Carbon. You could also pick yourself up some platinum titles on the cheap.

Arcade racers rank like this:
Burnout Revenge
NFS:MW
NFS:Carbon

everything else way below. Those three games are superb.

Maybe I'll give Carbon a shot.  I've already played Burnout & NFS:  MW to death on my XBox.
10002  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So I'm getting a 360... on: March 27, 2007, 12:24:20 PM

Quote from: Louis Cypher on March 27, 2007, 01:06:25 AM

Quote from: Gratch on March 27, 2007, 12:55:04 AM

Found a way to run the network cable, so I should be good to go when the system arrives tomorrow.  I'm getting GoW, Tony Hawk 8, & GRAW, and am trying to decide what else to pick up.  Is there a good arcade racer other than Burnout (played that on my XBox 1)?  Or maybe I'll go the Madden route.  Then again, Viva Pinata looks interesting.  So many choices...  smile

Having never played online before, I've got one question about XBox Live.  It's a monthly subscription service, right? I think this system comes with a trial month, so I'll give that a shot.  Just wondering how much to expect after that if I decide to actually play online.
Once you try XBL for a month, you'll want to get a subscription  icon_biggrin

We'll see.  I've never been a big multi-player gamer, so I'm not sure how much appeal it will have to me.  I'd at least like to give it a shot with the OO crowd though.

On a related note, didn't I see somewhere that XBox Live is down today (3/27)?  If the on-line service is down the day the console arrives, then maybe that's an omen that I really don't need to play online.  slywink
10003  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So I'm getting a 360... on: March 27, 2007, 12:55:04 AM
Found a way to run the network cable, so I should be good to go when the system arrives tomorrow.  I'm getting GoW, Tony Hawk 8, & GRAW, and am trying to decide what else to pick up.  Is there a good arcade racer other than Burnout (played that on my XBox 1)?  Or maybe I'll go the Madden route.  Then again, Viva Pinata looks interesting.  So many choices...  smile

Having never played online before, I've got one question about XBox Live.  It's a monthly subscription service, right? I think this system comes with a trial month, so I'll give that a shot.  Just wondering how much to expect after that if I decide to actually play online.
10004  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Puzzle Quest for DS/PSP on: March 26, 2007, 10:21:41 PM
My strategy is matching 3 jewels.  4, if I get the chance.

I suppose that's why I'm not doing as well as Tilt. 
10005  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So..help me pick out some PS2 games on: March 26, 2007, 10:19:15 PM
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Oooh yeah-Devil Summoner-thats the one I was curious about-any good?

Great game, incredible art direction, cool story…all ruined by a completely ridiculous encounter rate.  As much as I wanted to like it, I just couldn’t get past having to fight every 3 steps and shelved it.

I’m not big on the action-RPG games, and about the only one I can really say I enjoyed was Dark Cloud 2.  I much prefer the turn based stuff, so let us know if you need any suggestions on those.  smile
10006  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Guitar Hero II on: March 26, 2007, 07:26:18 PM
Having both GH & GH2 on PS2, I'm going to wait on the 360 version until I see what kind of add-ons and downloadable stuff they come out with.  The extra 10'ish songs do nothing for me, so there's no sense buying it again at this point.  If they start doing regular downloadable songs, I'm sure I'll pick it up.
10007  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Recap 3-26-07 on: March 26, 2007, 04:01:18 PM
19 levels of Puzzle Quest, and that's it.
10008  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Overlords on: March 26, 2007, 03:36:57 PM

Quote from: corruptrelic on March 26, 2007, 02:59:04 PM

Definitely looking forward to it after I saw a preview in Game Informer (or some magazine anyway) a while back.
I was under the impression that you controlled an actual character in the game - while the minions were AI controlled (but you could tell them what to do as you were their 'overlord') Now I'm not so sure anymore.

Interesting.  Sounds like a combination of Majesty & Dungeon Keeper.   drool
10009  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My 2 hour XBOX 360 Ownership... I need reassurance on: March 26, 2007, 02:07:16 PM

Quote from: Jag on March 26, 2007, 01:58:29 PM

Quote from: Arclight on March 25, 2007, 08:56:08 AM

Bought one two weeks ago made in Nov 06. Not a problem what so ever. But it is a tough call with the supposedly new and improved ones coming out this spring.

I also need to add that this is my first console. Although I've had no technical problems with the "box" I am having another dilemma. I don't find myself drawn to use it as much as I thought or hoped I would. I have Ghost Recon, Gears of War, Call of Duty 3, and rented NFS: Carbon, Tiger Wood 07. Other than the initial wow factor from the graphics of a couple of these titles they just aren't grabbing me.

I love gaming, and when I have time to game but find myself banging around on the PC still instead of enjoying my very expensive new toy, I have to wonder why.

I have the box set up in my bedroom on a dedicated 27 inch HDTV...I'm comfortable and secluded to enjoy the box, but I'm just not enthralled with it.

I think part of the problem is the games I have for it. I'm a MMORPG\RPG lover...Also flight simming is deep in my gaming roots.
From what I can tell shooters seem to be the majority of what most people like about the box.

I hope that eventually I find some titles now or soon to be released that make the purchase of this system\TV\peripherals worth the money. 
YMMV>.

Interesting. This is actually the thing that has always prevented me from taking the plunge. I always go back to the more immersive RPG type games. I'm going to get one of the new Xboxs, but mainly to start playing sports games with my son. I don't think i'll ever be able to give up the PC.

The lack of RPG's was my main hold-up with the 360 as well.  However, there are a few coming for the system that look pretty interesting.    Most of them are western-style as opposed to JRPG's (with Blue Dragon being the major exception), but I think there may be enough to tide me over until I can afford a PS2 for my JRPG fix.
10010  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (3/26) on: March 26, 2007, 01:35:05 PM
Possibly Settlers on DS, but most likely nothing new.  I'm getting my 360 later this week, so I might pick up a few that I've been itching to try (namely Dead Rising & Table Tennis).
10011  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Strategy Questions (and Impressions) on: March 26, 2007, 01:33:26 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on March 25, 2007, 08:28:04 PM

and also that rabbit in the jungles was a pain,running around everywhere...

I hated that hunt!  Took me about 10 tries before I figured out to cast Berzerk on him so he'd keep attacking.

Great impressions Hrothgar, and I agree on all your points.  smile
10012  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Puzzle Quest for DS/PSP on: March 26, 2007, 01:21:20 PM

Quote from: TiLT on March 26, 2007, 12:18:12 PM

If you pay close attention to the hints the AI gives you during your own turns, you'll see that it sometimes recommend picking mana over damage as well. This happens when certain colors of mana becomes a rare commodity, or when it's vitally important that your opponent doesn't get any more mana of that color. Sometimes this stuff is far more important than a few points of extra damage, especially if your Battle is low.


Thanks Tilt.  Since I'm playing as a Knight and my Battle skill is pretty high (20, iirc plus a couple item bonuses), it's almost always better to take the damage.  I've found that trying to prevent the opponent from gaining a certain type of mana is damn near impossible (they're almost always going to get it on combos from the top anyways), so I go for damage 99% of the time.   Although I'm sure that playing a more magic focused character might change that play style a bit.

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2: I've had no problems with the captures I've made so far. Then again, I'm pretty decent at puzzles like these in the first place. Perhaps there is something wrong in the approach you choose to take with these puzzles? In any case, I don't get the impression that capturing enemies is vitally important. So far I don't even use any of the spells I've been able to research from captured enemies; My own spells are simply better.

Yeah, I generally suck at those type of puzzles anyways, so I'm glad they're not really a "required" part of the game.  They're more frustration for me than anything.  Although I would like a cooler mount than a Giant Rat...  slywink



10013  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Overlords on: March 26, 2007, 01:10:35 PM
Never heard of it either, but it's certainly on the radar now.  Loved the Dungeon Keeper series, and this looks pretty similar.
10014  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Puzzle Quest for DS/PSP on: March 26, 2007, 12:04:58 PM
I'm now at Level 19, and have been having a really good time with it.  Switching to Easy mode seems to alleviate much of the "cheating" feeling, although the AI can be pretty suspect (i.e. sometimes passing up obvious major damage combos for lesser mana).  In general though,  switching levels has made the game playable for me, where it was simply an exercise in frustration before.  I actually won my first city siege last night, which I though was pretty impressive since the city started out with 100 more HP than me!  With my upgraded towers and keep, that'll be a nice gold-producing addition.  smile

A couple questions:

1.  Is there an advantage to upgrading your mount?  I've upgraded my Giant Rat to level 8, and I don't see any noticeable difference.
2.  Is it just me, or is the "capture" mechanic endlessly frustrating?  I've pretty much given up on trying to capture enemies, since I can never figure out their stupid puzzles. 

Overall, I'm enjoying it much more that I expected I would.  I thought after the frustrating first few hours that I would be giving up on it quickly, but it's certainly got me hooked.
10015  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Playlist 23/Mar/06 on: March 25, 2007, 05:03:36 AM
I was weak and picked up Puzzle Quest for DS.  I think I may regret it, however, as the game seems to suffer from Culdcept syndrome:  great game ruined by cheating AI.  Reserving judgement for a few more hours, but initial (3 hour) results are not promising.
10016  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: No wife tonight-my movie pick. Rented Serenity. on: March 25, 2007, 04:56:08 AM

Quote from: Ragnarok on March 25, 2007, 02:56:35 AM

That said,  would the TV series be worth a buy?

FWIW, the movie actually makes a hell of a lot more sense (and has a lot more emotional impact) if you've seen the show.  That being said, Serenity stands up fine on it's own.  I saw the movie first, then went back and watched the show.  Then did it again, then a few more times after that, and a couple more times for good measure...  slywink
10017  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My 2 hour XBOX 360 Ownership... I need reassurance on: March 25, 2007, 02:34:32 AM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on March 25, 2007, 02:26:36 AM

Quote from: Gratch on March 25, 2007, 02:17:49 AM

Quote from: Clay on March 25, 2007, 02:03:34 AM

So, what's the word?  Should I just hold tight until the revisions come and ask for a refund tomorrow?  Or should I get a new system?  The whole thing makes me pretty damn nervous.  What's with the missing headset??  Did EBGames sell me a used machine? 

They'll probably exchange it for you no problem, but you'll have to raise holy hell to get a refund. 

On hardware?  Pretty much everybody will let you return hardware no questions asked for 30 days.  Software is where it's a bitch to get a refund. 

Maybe they've changed their stance then.  I have tried to return hardware to them twice, and had to raise a massive stink both times in order to get a refund.

First time was on an unopened X-Box with a purchase receipt from the day before.  I was told they had problems with "people stealing systems then counterfeiting receipts" so they weren't accepting hardware for returns, only exchanges.  Second one was on a GBA SP that I had for a week, then decided to return and wait for the DS release.  Had to battle it out with a manager on both occasions (the X-Box one turned rather unpleasant), but they finally gave me the money back.
10018  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My 2 hour XBOX 360 Ownership... I need reassurance on: March 25, 2007, 02:17:49 AM

Quote from: Clay on March 25, 2007, 02:03:34 AM

So, what's the word?  Should I just hold tight until the revisions come and ask for a refund tomorrow?  Or should I get a new system?  The whole thing makes me pretty damn nervous.  What's with the missing headset??  Did EBGames sell me a used machine? 

They'll probably exchange it for you no problem, but you'll have to raise holy hell to get a refund. 
10019  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Puzzle Quest for DS/PSP on: March 25, 2007, 01:16:23 AM

Quote from: Pharaoh on March 25, 2007, 01:03:20 AM

As much as I love the game, like Unbreakable says, it cheats far too much.

I know Bejeweled is at its core a luck game, but the computer cheats. It has to. I am a lvl 19 Warrior, and fights now are trivial stupidity.

At this point, the mobs I fight usually get the first turn, and will almost always proceed to get 3 and 4 combo skull hits, which end up in giant chains of 4's, giving them tons of mana and knocking me for like 20+ before I even get to move. At this point, even if I try to build up mana, the computer will usually start to move pieces at the bottom, and somehow magically whatever falls from the top is EXACTLY what it needs for giant chains and tons of mana/skull spam. It knows exactly what to move to get different tiers to fall exactly into 4 and 5 chains, and even starts to anticipate the moves. I knew the game was a cheating son of a bitch when I watched it avoid a 4 skull chain, move a yellow for a 3 the opposite direction for no seeming reason, only to see what dropped new from the top of the screen was more skulls, which then auto proc'ed and kicked my ass.

The fact no matter what mob I fight can get full mana in each category by turn 14 pretty regularly...well, I give up.

Its fun when you start out, but then it becomes a clusterfuck of so many abilities and items, that the computer is just too good and has a clairvoiant anticipation of the board. Thats not fun.

I haven't played quite as much, but I'm starting to agree here.  My level 7 characters just got taken from 56 hit points to 3 in the space of 2 opponent moves.  Suppose it wouldn't be as frustrating if I saw something even close happen for me instead of just against me.  It's not a game-wrecker yet, but I can see how this could become a problem pretty quickly.
10020  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: *Warning* Positive PS3 Article Inside - Enter At Your Own Risk on: March 23, 2007, 08:54:10 PM

Quote from: StitchJones on March 23, 2007, 08:08:20 PM

Why must we do this?  Why must we really care.  It's all personal.  If you like one system over the other, then fine.  I myself want them both to do very well, as i am a gamer and could care less about what company makes the games as long as they are great.  I only own a 360 right now, but I KNOW I will be purchasing a PS3 down the road, there is no if's and's or but's about it.  Can't we agree that both are pretty good next gen systems with potential to deliver us some great games and move on.  Let's just talk about the games man...  You'd think people were arguing over their penis sizes as much as people argue over 360 vs. PS3.  And this is nothing directly toward you Hetz, I'd just love to see more direct game talk on this board overall.  I love the impressions and personal game screen shots people give of games.  It's why I visit this forum.

Dude, just stop.  We'll have none of that rational thought 'round these parts.
10021  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Playlist 23/Mar/06 on: March 23, 2007, 04:00:05 PM
This weekend will mainly be spent trying to figure out how the hell I'm going to get online access for my 360 that should be arriving next week.  I don't really want to start anything new with a new system on the way.  With any luck, I'll be able to join some GoW multiplayer games soon.  smile

Might play some Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, but that's about it.
10022  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: The Official GT Trader Feedback List (updated 3/07) on: March 23, 2007, 01:28:34 PM
Another +1 to Hrothgar for freebies
10023  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Wii is a big hit with the "under 1" crowd on: March 23, 2007, 12:05:43 PM
Baby watching Wii Golf
10024  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: could ps3 lose its exclusive FF13??? on: March 22, 2007, 07:24:20 PM
I think that's a double-dog-dare, isn't it?
10025  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: could ps3 lose its exclusive FF13??? on: March 22, 2007, 06:16:04 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on March 22, 2007, 06:13:50 PM

The problem with the PC port of FF7 is that they didn't re-render the backgrounds for higher resolution.  So 320x240 backgrounds that looked fine on a TV thanks to the native blurring effect were pixelly messes on a monitor at just 640x480.  That was offset a little bit by the nice (for the time) 3D accelerated battle sequences. 

That was the problem I remember as well.  I also recall that the music was screwy as well (different MIDI systems between PC & PS1), and never really sounded right.

Something tells me we wouldn't run into those types of problems with the current gen. smile
10026  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: could ps3 lose its exclusive FF13??? on: March 22, 2007, 05:37:23 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on March 22, 2007, 05:31:55 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if FF13 at least makes it to the PC.  And if you are going to do that, it's probably far easier to throw a 360 version out there as well.  IMO, the only thing which will limit them is how many potential sales they believe that platform can sell.

A PC port would surprise me a bit.  The only non-MMO ones they've done are VII & VIII, and neither of those turned out very well (or sold very well, from what I understand).  FFXI is still going gangbusters, but I think they'd be a more than a little gunshy about a PC port of a single player RPG.

As someone that is PS3-less for the forseeable future, that isn't to say I wouldn't want a port, but I just doubt we'll see it.
10027  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What the heck is Nintendo thinking? A cook-off Wii game! on: March 22, 2007, 04:22:50 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 22, 2007, 03:43:23 PM

I wonder how much bigger this title would've been if they had found a good way to give it an Iron Chef tie-in.  With a little bit more depth from the competition, it might've been been a good little hit with that branding.

If they ended up with both an Iron Chef and a Bob Ross game, there's no way I could resist getting a Wii.
10028  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Rumor]XBOX 360 Price Drop, Core Canceled, HDMI in May on: March 22, 2007, 02:16:26 PM

Quote from: Leona-Windrider on March 22, 2007, 02:34:53 AM

An interesting fun fact: our Microsoft rep completely denies the existence of the black 360.  Either he's not in the loop or was being coy slywink

FWIW, my sis-in-law is an "X-Box rep" for Microsoft (she's the one that services the store demo units, hands out all the nifty promo material, etc.).  According to her, they are usually the last people that are actually told anything of substance, and most of the info their reps get come from the same internet sources we read.

Funny side note:  She has absolutely zero interest in games or gaming and the only time she has ever even touched an X-box is on her service calls.  Yet, she's always considered the 'hawt gamer chick' whenever she does into the GS/EB locations.   icon_lol
10029  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Puzzle Quest for DS/PSP on: March 21, 2007, 02:33:17 PM
This is the only thing from the review that concerns me:

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On the DS, the problems with the presentation are much more severe and end up impacting the gameplay. The graphics aren't as crisp and clear as they are on the PSP, and there are barely any flashy special effects. Most significantly, the puzzle playfield appears cramped on the lower screen of the DS, and it's difficult to discern certain pieces. Because of the size of the pieces, it's also easier to make mistakes with the game's mandatory stylus controls. The content is still good, but these problems make the DS version harder to recommend.

Maybe I'll just wait for the full PC version instead.
10030  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: March 20, 2007, 11:48:32 PM




10031  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: God of War 2 Impressions on: March 20, 2007, 04:01:24 PM

Quote from: rrmorton on March 20, 2007, 05:34:22 AM

I'm growing concerned about this ramp.  icon_eek

I'm usually no good at action games, so I played on Easy.  Even at wussy level, that ramp was still an absolute bitch.
10032  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What the heck is Nintendo thinking? A cook-off Wii game! on: March 20, 2007, 01:32:11 PM

Quote from: mytocles on March 20, 2007, 12:21:12 PM

"real time cooking effects" - wtf would that be - your Wii starts to steam and smoke? stirthepot

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


They're saving that feature for the 360 version.  slywink
10033  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 3 Trailer on: March 20, 2007, 01:25:00 PM
Please tell me I didn't just see a pirate ship sailing over a sand dune.

Other than that one shot, it looked pretty cool.
10034  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What the heck is Nintendo thinking? A cook-off Wii game! on: March 20, 2007, 01:19:08 PM
They really should find a way to attach the Iron Chef name.

Allez Cuisine!
10035  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: March 19, 2007, 11:13:21 PM






10036  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Kingdom Hearts? on: March 19, 2007, 09:32:33 PM
I purchased Kingdom Hearts three times hoping it would finally 'click' with me.  I love Disney and I love Final Fantasy, but KH did absolutely nothing for me.  Part of the problem was the wonky camera, part of it was the super-cutsey feel of the whole thing, but something about the game just put me off.  I got up to the Tarzan world once, but that was as far as I could stomach.

It's just another one of those "everyone loves but me" games, I suppose.
10037  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: God of War 2 Impressions on: March 19, 2007, 07:14:22 PM

Quote from: Calvin on March 19, 2007, 01:06:20 PM

So I gave it a little more time Saturday and Sunday (in all honesty, about an hour more). I know I haven't played it enough to really fully give it a full evaluation, but it just isn't for me. I hate making these realizations about games that I want to like, but sometimes you have to just be honest and realize that this type of game isn't for you. I had to come to that understanding with Devil May Cry 3 (in fact, the only one I still like is Devil May Cry 1-the best in the series), Ninja Gaiden, Okami, and others. God of War 2 is the most recent. 3 hours isn't necessarily enough of a test, but there is no sense playing something I don't really enjoy.

I am happy you guys are getting so much pleasure out of this one, and I salute the job they did making this game look the way it does on the PS2!

Don't feel bad, I'm the same way with most of the big name franchises everyone else raves about.  I hate the GTA games with a passion, didn't care for Halo, am 'meh' on Metal Gear, don't care for most platformers (i.e.  Ratchet & Clank, Jax & Daxter, etc.), and so on.

Different strokes, and all that...
10038  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So I'm getting a 360... on: March 19, 2007, 06:38:03 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on March 19, 2007, 06:30:01 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on March 19, 2007, 05:58:49 PM

It's the same cable, at least on my system it is. What I'm not sure about is the ability to have 2 cable modems.

Most cable companies (including the one I work for) would have you open a second account, get a second bill, and essentially pay for two modems at full price.  You would not be able to bond your connection to double the speed either. 

Ugh, no way.

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In short, buy into some WiFi love.  You can get a router and card for less than 60 if you shop smart.  Shop S Mart.

But I'd sill have to buy the $100 wireless adapter for the 360 right?  Or are there 3rd party alternatives to that adapter?
10039  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So I'm getting a 360... on: March 19, 2007, 05:57:24 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on March 19, 2007, 05:43:24 PM

Quote from: Gratch on March 19, 2007, 01:15:25 PM

the only other option is figuring out a way to run a 100 foot cable through the rafters to the family room.  Given the unique layout of our house, I'm not even entirely sure that's possible.

I guarantee it is possible, you just need to try harder. if you have a cable outlet near your router and a cable outlet by the 360 then the cable company managed to do it, so can you! smile Of course if you go outside and see a black cable coming out one window, thrown over the roof and going into an attic window you may not want to task the cable guys to run any more wiring at your house.

Well, the house already had a cable TV jack when we moved in.  It's right by the TV where the 360 is going to be.  When we signed up for Comcast, they ran a new cable internet jack directly through outside wall to the office.   So the question is, can they create an additional internet jack somewhere there is already a TV jack?

I'm an idiot about this stuff (obviously) and didn't know if the cable TV and cable internet cables all come in the same way.
10040  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So I'm getting a 360... on: March 19, 2007, 05:35:51 PM
Warning, you rule man.   icon_lol

Maybe I should put a Jobu doll next to it and sacrifice a live chicken every time I turn it on...
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