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1  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Arizona passes controversial anti-gay bill on: February 26, 2014, 03:47:49 PM

Quote from: Rip on February 25, 2014, 02:52:23 PM

Quote from: Fireball on February 25, 2014, 02:34:12 PM

Quote from: Rip on February 25, 2014, 02:24:39 PM

Quote from: Fireball on February 24, 2014, 03:40:53 PM

Nowhere near every conservative wants this evil bill to become law, but nearly everyone who wants this evil bill to become law is a conservative.

That may be the case but I am quite sure there a number of minority southern baptists among other that are pretty anti-homosexual.

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything -- the Southern Baptist religious denomination is an extremely conservative organization.

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That being said I disagree with the characterization that all the Demorat voters are friends of homosexual equal rights, in fact I know that isn't even close to the truth.

I didn't say anything about party. However, the vast majority of Democrats support gay marriage in recent polls, as opposed to the vast majority of Republicans, who oppose.

I am seeing about 2/3rds split on each side. Substantial but vast? Perhaps we just have a different definition of vast. In the end that mean of people who don't support gay marriage one third of them are Democrat, which IMHO draws you statement
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Nowhere near every conservative wants this evil bill to become law, but nearly everyone who wants this evil bill to become law is a conservative.
(which is what you actually said) into question. I can swallow that you thing two-thirds is vast although I disagree, but "nearly everyone" is a clear misuse of the phrase.

Those Democrats who oppose marriage equality are social conservatives.
2  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Arizona passes controversial anti-gay bill on: February 25, 2014, 02:34:12 PM

Quote from: Rip on February 25, 2014, 02:24:39 PM

Quote from: Fireball on February 24, 2014, 03:40:53 PM

Nowhere near every conservative wants this evil bill to become law, but nearly everyone who wants this evil bill to become law is a conservative.

That may be the case but I am quite sure there a number of minority southern baptists among other that are pretty anti-homosexual.

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything -- the Southern Baptist religious denomination is an extremely conservative organization.

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That being said I disagree with the characterization that all the Demorat voters are friends of homosexual equal rights, in fact I know that isn't even close to the truth.

I didn't say anything about party. However, the vast majority of Democrats support gay marriage in recent polls, as opposed to the vast majority of Republicans, who oppose.
3  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Arizona passes controversial anti-gay bill on: February 24, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
Thanks for lumping me in there when just five posts before I said exactly the opposite of what you accuse me of saying.
4  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Arizona passes controversial anti-gay bill on: February 24, 2014, 03:40:53 PM
Nowhere near every conservative wants this evil bill to become law, but nearly everyone who wants this evil bill to become law is a conservative.
5  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Signing up for Obamacare on: November 19, 2013, 02:49:02 PM
So I decided on my plan over the weekend, and signed onto the DC Health Link today, pulled up my application, selected my plan, and went through the final confirmations. Altogether, today's bit took about 5 minutes. Having purchased health insurance, both as an individual, and as a manager setting up a group plan for my employees last year, this was the most painless health insurance purchasing experience I've encountered. And I'll be saving about $30 a month in premiums.
6  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: the McRib is back! on: November 15, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
I can't find it anywhere in the DC/NOVA area. Could this be a regional release?
7  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Signing up for Obamacare on: November 14, 2013, 01:08:49 PM
Well, that sounds like a pretty good argument for the much-simpler Kaiser HMO. It's kinda funny, I see the differences between PPOs and HMOs being similar to the structural differences between Democratic and Republican campaigns.
8  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Signing up for Obamacare on: November 14, 2013, 12:39:39 AM
So I, and everyone else who works in my office, move off of my employer's health insurance plan to a plan purchased from the District of Columbia Small Business Exchange effective January 1. My employer will continue to provide premium support just as they did before, which is a feature of the Small Business Exchanges.

So I'm going to get to deal with an "Obamacare" website first hand.

Creating my account, filling out my application and confirming that I worked for my employer, and thus may access to their prescreened plans and receive the premium support, all went off without a hitch. Because of certain rules related to my employer's exchange program, we can only choose from Gold-level plans. There are 114 of them to pick from. They're not an exact match for the plans we had before -- most of our previous plans had no deductibles, while almost all of these have deductibles between $500 and $2,000; on the flip side, the out-of-pocket maximum and co-pays are almost uniformly lower on the new plans than on the old ones. The premiums are all lower for me. That's in part because of age banding -- whereas before a 30 year old and a 60 year old would pay the same premiums for the same plan, now  there is a significant increase in premiums for older participants on most plans.

I've always had Blue Cross Blue Shield insurance, even when I was buying (shitty) HSA insurance as an individual on the market that didn't cover half of what the new plan will cover (but cost about as much). However, everyone in my office is buying Kaiser Permanente plans, which is making me rethink my strategy. There are way too many plans to choose from, in some ways. I know enough to stay away from HSA plans. I don't know what "POS" plans are, so I'm dodging those, too. I'm focused on a $0 deductible HMO plan from Kaiser and two $1,000 deductible PPO plans from BCBS at the moment.

I'm not going to sign up tonight, though I will do so in the next few days to a week. So far, the process has been very smooth for me. The numbers we're seeing internally regarding exchange sign ups paint a very clear picture that the states (and DC) that built their own sites are doing much, much better in terms of sign ups when compared to those that did not.

Once I've picked a plan, I'll finish the process, and update folks on how it goes.
9  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 22, 2013, 04:10:29 AM
Brett, I'm curious: what state do you live in?
10  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 21, 2013, 05:23:36 PM

Quote from: Gratch on October 21, 2013, 04:11:10 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 21, 2013, 03:46:16 PM

You are dreaming if you think employers who drop health coverage are going to give all the money they paid for insurance back to the employees to do the exact same job they were doing before.   It just isn't going to happen.    

As much as it pains me to agree with brett, I think he's right on this one.

In a perfect world, if a company drops their insurance and sends everyone to the exchanges, they would provide an raise equivalent to what they were previously paying.  In reality, however, I seriously doubt that's going to happen.  My guess is that lots of companies will simply drop employee's insurance with NO raise and either a) hope that their employees don't look elsewhere or b) use it as an opportunity to bring in cheaper labor.

That's been one of my biggest concerns about ACA from the get-go.  Companies are going to use this as a cost-cutting measure because there are lots of people out there looking for jobs.  They might lose some talent, but when people are strapped for cash or enjoy what they do, they're going to be reluctant to look elsewhere.

Increasingly, the jobs that provide decent health benefits are jobs filled by workers with a college education. The current unemployment rate for people with college degrees is under 4%. It is not entirely an employers' market when it comes to the jobs scene. The present level of unemployment is highly dependent on your education status.

Employers with more than 49 employees will get fined if they drop insurance.

And, of course, businesses seeking employees will be at a competitive disadvantage if they do not offer health insurance. In the long run, that's going to weigh on the future prospects of businesses that go that route.

If you think your employer might drop employee health insurance coverage, that also sounds like a decent reason to look into forming a union.
11  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 21, 2013, 12:30:33 AM
But why would the employees put up with that?

My employer just flirted with no longer providing insurance premium support for staff, and it was clear the result would have been a mass exodus of older and more experienced employees.
12  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 20, 2013, 05:28:34 PM
So far, every friend I've had in the real world who's complained about increased prices under Obamacare has actually been comparing the portion of their health insurance premiums they pay, when the employer pays most of it, to the full prices of the insurance premiums listed on the Obamacare website. Only one of them was willing to check his pay stub, and compare the actual cost of his health insurance to the ACA health insurance. The ACA health insurance was, of course, actually cheaper.

I'm on the economic opportunity commission for my city, and we met with one of the navigators last Wednesday. What's really sad, is that 60% of the people she spoken to Don't even make 100% of the federal poverty level income for their family size. In a state that is fully implementing Obamacare, these families would be eligible for full Medicaid coverage. But because Virginia has not fully implemented Obamacare these people are neither eligible for expanded Medicaid, nor are they eligible for a subsidy to purchase health insurance on the exchanges. I consider this to be criminal on the part of the Virginia government.

Hopefully, if the Democrat wins the governor's race next month, he'll be able to get Virginia on the expanded Medicaid program.

There are a lot of misconceptions out there regarding Obamacare. A lot of people, especially those who are opposed to it, think that everyone is going to be required to leave their current health insurance and purchased policies on the exchange. Others don't realize that the health insurance they have will get better under Obamacare, as lifetime and annual caps are phased out. Of course, Republican politicians have encouraged these, and other, misconceptions.

In fact, the basic elements of Obamacare are incredibly popular amongst the population. Obviously, with the exception of the individual mandate.

I think in previous threads I've mentioned my friend Matt, who had cancer as a child. Because the kind of cancer he had, in his adult life he has never been able to afford health insurance. Even when we both worked for the state of Texas, he couldn't afford the premiums he would've been charged under the state's group plan. Under Obamacare, he is able to purchase health insurance with good benefits and a reasonable premium. He's able to take proactive responsibility for his own health. He's going to live longer, and be healthier, and be more productive. That's not just a net gain from Matt, that's a net gain for his entire community, and all of us.

When Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and other Republicans say they want to repeal Obamacare, what they're really saying is they want to take people like Matt, and throw them out of the healthcare system. Perhaps it's because I just left church this morning, but I find that a particularly un-Christian attitude to take.
13  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 18, 2013, 02:29:47 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 18, 2013, 02:23:27 PM

Quote from: Lee on October 18, 2013, 03:10:41 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 18, 2013, 12:45:57 AM

Well in our system of government they HAVE won enough elections to control part of government.

So that means it is no longer majority rules? I understand what you are saying, but winning the House doesn't mean they can just do as they wish. Anyway, the House seemed to be frozen by inaction after a few members that the majority did not support  went nuts because they didn't want to go against their own party. In the end the House decided not to vote because the vote wouldn't go the way of the vocal few.

No it means if Obama wants his policies to be passed with no questioning and no opposition his side needs to win more elections.   Until that happens he can't just get whatever he wants 100% of the time.

And he didn't, in this case. He effectively got the compromise he and the Democratic Senate offered three weeks ago.
14  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 11, 2013, 03:53:09 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 11, 2013, 02:16:01 AM

Well at least we now know what you think of every single republican.   Actually we knew that before, this just reinforces it.

Okay, if we're going to play that game, I should've also pointed out that the representation of what I was saying about Republicans was wrong. However, I didn't really feel the need to do that as most of this conversation has been about Democrats and democratic motivations.

There are quite a few Republicans who have pledged to do brave things during this debate. Peter King of New York, for example. So far, most of this has only been talk. These Republicans who have said they would vote for a clean CR haven't crossed over to vote with Democrats on procedural votes they could force a vote on a clean CR. But they deserve credit for standing up to the tea party. I hope they get a chance to vote on a clean CR.

I don't consider John Boehner to be a devil in any of this, either. I feel sorry for the speaker. This is clearly not how he hoped he speakership would go. He doesn't have any way to control the tea party, and it seems to be ruining his tenure in the job. I don't believe he will allow us to go through the debt ceiling. I think he is stronger than that. At least, I hope so.
15  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 11, 2013, 01:08:39 AM

Quote from: msduncan on October 11, 2013, 12:25:34 AM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on October 10, 2013, 08:59:48 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 10, 2013, 08:39:09 PM

What a politician does that is best for them getting reelected is many times NOT what is best for the country, its not the same for the most part at a regular job.


Many Democrats have cast votes in the last two weeks that will be difficult to explain to voters, but which were the right thing to do. Not every member of Congress cravenly seeks reelection over all else.

Yes. Yes.   Democrats are benevolent angels that only cast votes in the best interest of the 'Murican people.

I never said anything so sweeping about all Democrats. I never even implied it. If you can't respond to what I actually say, that's your problem.
16  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 10, 2013, 08:59:48 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 10, 2013, 08:39:09 PM

What a politician does that is best for them getting reelected is many times NOT what is best for the country, its not the same for the most part at a regular job.


Many Democrats have cast votes in the last two weeks that will be difficult to explain to voters, but which were the right thing to do. Not every member of Congress cravenly seeks reelection over all else.
17  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 10, 2013, 08:26:26 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 10, 2013, 08:12:11 PM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on October 10, 2013, 03:09:58 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 10, 2013, 02:40:08 AM

Of course your party gains politically by people being hurt as much they can be by the shutdown as you can blame the opposing party for everything.

We don't gain politically. We don't want people to be hurt. That's why the Senate has passed four bills to reopen the budget, and House Democrats are standing in the rain right now calling for Boehner to allow a vote.

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The people don't matter to anyone in DC anymore, whatever gains the most power over the opposition is all that matters.

The American people matter a great deal to me and the people I work with.

Getting reelected is what matters to people in DC, anything else is second place, and a very very very distant second place at that.

So you're telling me that you know better than I do what matters to me?
18  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 10, 2013, 03:09:58 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 10, 2013, 02:40:08 AM

Of course your party gains politically by people being hurt as much they can be by the shutdown as you can blame the opposing party for everything.

We don't gain politically. We don't want people to be hurt. That's why the Senate has passed four bills to reopen the budget, and House Democrats are standing in the rain right now calling for Boehner to allow a vote.

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The people don't matter to anyone in DC anymore, whatever gains the most power over the opposition is all that matters.

The American people matter a great deal to me and the people I work with.
19  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 09, 2013, 11:28:17 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 09, 2013, 06:28:50 PM

Yes they did get a shutdown, and the dems want the shutdown to hurt as many people as possible for political gain.

No, we don't. How do we gain politically from it? This insanity is not doing anything to help the member of Congress I'm most concerned with (other than the historic polling collapse for the GOP, I guess... but that's hardly worth this cost). There is a bill in the hopper of the House, passed and engrossed by the Senate, which the Speaker could put on the floor any day with two hours notice. It would pass. The shutdown would end.

Why is he prolonging the shutdown by not doing so?
20  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 09, 2013, 02:49:08 PM

Quote from: raydude on October 09, 2013, 01:26:09 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on October 08, 2013, 09:40:24 PM

hopefully they fix this piece of bullshit right quick:

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In what veterans call an outrageous slight after the ultimate sacrifice, the shuttered federal government is withholding a $100,000 payment normally wired to relatives of fallen soldiers — including the families of five killed in Afghanistan over the weekend.

The payment, known as the death gratuity, is typically sent to families of the fallen within three days to help them cover funeral costs or travel to meet the flag-draped coffins of their loved ones.

“It is upsetting because my husband died for his country, and now his family is left to worry,” said Ashley Peters of Springfield, Mo., whose husband, Jeremy, was a special agent assigned to the Army’s 5th Military Police Battalion and was among the five killed. “My husband always said if something happened to him we would be taken care of.”

“I’m a stay-at-home mom, which is what my husband wanted,” she said. “He wanted me to take care of our son.”

Outrage over the lapse built Tuesday in both parties in Congress, among the relatives of the fallen and among veteran advocacy groups, which characterized it as an unacceptable breach of the country’s obligation to its volunteer military and their families.

The families of five U.S. troops killed overseas this weekend will not receive the usual "death gratuity" due to the government shutdown. A typical $100,000 compensation is wired to families within 36 hours to help with funeral and other expenses.

“Impacting grieving families when they are at their absolute weakest point is just disgusting,” said Joe Davis, a spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the largest organization of combat veterans in the United States.

“Veterans, military personnel and now their families are not to be used as leverage in this political game of blame,” he said. He called on leaders in Congress to “put the country ahead of their politics.”

Congress passed a law last week to pay the military during the shutdown. Pentagon officials studied it to assess whether it might cover the death gratuity and determined that it was not possible, a defense official told NBC News on Tuesday.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/08/20871220-just-disgusting-outrage-after-shutdown-delays-payment-for-families-of-fallen?lite

I wonder if we could push all aspects of the government through media outrage and re-open the government bit-by-bit.

We're fighting hard not to do that right now. Democratic members of the House are voting against piecemeal funding for programs they dearly support because this pick and choose system is no way to reopen the government.
21  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 07, 2013, 08:36:33 PM
So in November I'll be moving onto the DC Health Link exchange, it seems. I can't use the calculator to assess the specific small business plans I'd be able to sign up for, but the individual plan calculator for me shows a gold plan costing $337, compared to around $600 that my current plan costs. My employer will pick up 3/4 of that in both scenarios, so my premium will drop from $150 (plus vision and dental) to $85 (plus vision and dental). That's pretty cool, if the small business plans pan out the same as the individual plans.
22  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: You know what I hate about IOS7? on: October 05, 2013, 03:10:50 PM
1) Turn off iMessage in Settings -> Messages.

2) Reset Network Settings in Settings -> General. WARNING: You lose all of your wifi passwords.

The iPhone reboots.

iMessage is back in action.
23  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 05, 2013, 12:28:08 AM

Quote from: Moliere on October 04, 2013, 10:55:00 PM

Which facts are being disputed? That it was forcibly closed by the Park Service? That's it's privately funded and staffed?

I'm sure all those facts are true. I just wonder what else might be true. Does the Park Service maintain a road that needs to be closed for safety reasons? Do they in some other way administer access to the land? It could be this is just someone in the Park Service being needlessly literal about shutting down all locations they administer (like at Mount Vernon) or there could be reasonable safety/property related reasons to shut down (like many of the DC monuments). This only appears to be one side of the story. The people at the Park Service who would talk to the press are mostly furloughed, though, I bet.

Regardless, what is important isn't this park or that land, it's that we need to restart the entire government. The votes are there in the house to pass the Senate's compromise CR. Boehner should allow a vote.
24  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 04, 2013, 10:22:10 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 04, 2013, 10:16:19 PM

So please fireball let us know what news sources are allowed to be posted here?    Outside of the obviously allowed Huffington Post and MSDNC of course.

I wouldn't consider Huffington Post credible. MSNBC doesn't really post hard news, they're just commentary.
25  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 04, 2013, 10:09:15 PM

Quote from: Moliere on October 04, 2013, 09:29:48 PM

A privately run park gets shut down by the National Park Service?

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National Park Officials closed down the educational Claude Moore Colonial Farm near the CIA in McLean, Va., even though the federal government doesn't fund or staff the park popular with children and schools. Just because the privately-operated park is on Park Service land, making the federal government simply its landlord, the agency decided to close it.
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A Claude Moore Colonial Farm official said that the privately-funded staff is on the job Wednesday, but barred from letting anybody visit the historically accurate buildings or animals. Anna Eberly, the managing director, sent out an email decrying the decision and rude National Park Service staff handling the closure.

Pointing to Park Service claims that parks have to be closed because the agency can’t afford staff during the government closure, Eberly wrote: “What utter crap. We have operated the Farm successfully for 32 years after the NPS cut the Farm from its budget in 1980 and are fully staffed and prepared to open today. But there are barricades at the Pavilions and entrance to the Farm. And if you were to park on the grass and visit on your own, you run the risk of being arrested. Of course, that will cost the NPS staff salaries to police the Farm against intruders while leaving it open will cost them nothing.”

I'm sure it's all a big misunderstanding and not political grandstanding. Right?

The Washington Examiner is not a reputable publication. I don't trust the facts presented here are true. Paul Bedard is particularly untrustworthy and right-wing. You might as well post a link to Fox News or World Net Daily.
26  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 03, 2013, 02:47:14 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 03, 2013, 07:03:14 AM

I already looked at the exchanges and as I said my price for insurance would quadruple from what I pay now, making it unaffordable for me.

It would also quadruple if your employer decided to stop paying for any of your health coverage and passed the full premium on to you.

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I just see more and more employers deciding to not offer insurance anymore as Obamacare become fully implemented.

That is hardly a trend that came about because of the Affordable Care Act. Health care costs have been skyrocketing, and businesses dropping insurance or increasing the employee's share of premiums began in earnest more than a decade ago.
27  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 03, 2013, 02:37:59 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 03, 2013, 02:02:08 AM

Its part of the overall pay and benefits from my employer at this time, so yes they do pay for part of my insurance.   So as long as it is part of that package they give me in exchange for my work, yes I do expect them to pay.

So you're comparing the portion of the premium you pay now, when your employer pays the majority of it, and complaining that the unsubsidized amount on the exchange is higher than that? How is that a logical argument?
28  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 03, 2013, 12:59:11 AM
I can't sign up for an account until open enrollment for Federal employees. We learned today that we will all be moving to the DC Small Business Employee Exchange, so I'll be shopping there despite living in Northern Virginia. I can't see the actual plans unless I sign up for an account, but I can run the calculator and its rough estimates seem to be in line with what my current coverage costs.

On our campaign, we presently have a small business policy for the campaign staffers. If we were to end that, and they were to purchase equivalent coverage on Covered California, their premiums would be cheaper than what they are now for equivalent coverage. We might do that to save the campaign money.
29  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 02, 2013, 06:11:55 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on October 02, 2013, 03:59:32 PM

Congress is stil getting paid because their jobs are Constitutionally mandated is that the deal?

The 27th Amendment states that Congress can't pass a law that affects its own pay. It can only pass laws that affect the pay of future Congresses.
30  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 01, 2013, 07:14:26 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 01, 2013, 06:58:04 PM

And you and the other liberals and dems seem to think the government is the only possible solution for everything under the sun.

From your perspective we may *seem* to think that. In truth, we don't.
31  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 01, 2013, 04:52:21 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on October 01, 2013, 04:50:29 PM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on October 01, 2013, 03:32:51 PM

The House will pass a clean CR.

Believe it when I see it.  Boehner can't even rein in his caucus when he needs too

Which is why they'll end up passing a clean CR. In catering to his right flank, Boehner is beginning to lose the middle of his caucus.
32  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 01, 2013, 04:27:38 PM

Quote from: Rip on October 01, 2013, 04:02:17 PM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on October 01, 2013, 03:32:51 PM

The House will pass a clean CR.

By traitor?

There are already a handful of House Republicans who are calling for a clean continuing resolution. If enough of them vote against the next rule the leadership proposes regarding an unclean continuing resolution, they can block the rule. At that point, Boehner would have no choice but to bring up a clean CR, which would pass right this moment if there was a chance to vote for it.

If restarting the US government to avoid $150 million in daily costs, and the economic wallop of 800,000 people furloughed makes on a traitor, then, yes, "by traitor".
33  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 01, 2013, 03:32:51 PM
The House will pass a clean CR.
34  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: October 01, 2013, 04:16:22 AM
It's 12:16am on the East Coast, and the United States Federal government has just shut down due to a lack of appropriation of funds.

The last twenty minutes have been crazy in the Capitol. My boss and I made it through one of the doors to Longworth as they were preparing to lock it down, as it will not be the door open during shutdown. The hallways were filled with cleaning folks trying to get the entire night's work done before most of the cleaning staff was furloughed at midnight. It's going to be a strange few days (hopefully only a few days) around here until this latest crisis is resolved.

Just in time for the debt limit showdown.
35  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: it's time for the next round of SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! on: September 28, 2013, 09:36:47 PM

Quote from: Rip on September 28, 2013, 08:34:58 PM

I don't understand what all you guys are upset about, you should be cheering. If this move is as catastrphic as you like to indicate it is, it should lead to Democrats controlling all branches of the government for decades.

I do not consider an improvement in my party's electoral chances to be worth deeply damaging the economy of the United States, as these funding and debt ceiling games could do. I want to win, to be sure, but not at the cost of harming millions of innocent people.
36  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: You know what I hate about IOS7? on: September 21, 2013, 03:59:25 AM
I just talked to a good friend from Dallas, and he's having the quickly-draining battery issue.

I vaguely remember this same thing happening with iOS 5, and being addressed in 5.0.1 or 5.0.2. Hopefully that'll be the case this time, as well.
37  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: You know what I hate about IOS7? on: September 20, 2013, 07:09:34 PM
I haven't noticed any battery performance loss. Only been a couple of days, though.
38  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Is our children learning? on: September 14, 2013, 04:01:28 PM

Quote from: Rip on September 14, 2013, 03:50:45 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on September 13, 2013, 09:55:56 PM

Quote from: Razgon on September 13, 2013, 06:59:51 AM

Edit: I will have to check if creationism is taught as well.

It's my understanding that creationism has no currency outside of the US (except as a fringe belief at most, certainly not as a "science"), so I'd be interested to know if it has a toehold in Denmark.

Islam while not taking a somewhat different view isn't scientific in any way. It seems to have a little traction outside the U.S. as well.

Modern-day fundamentalist Islam does have a pretty bad track record as it goes with science. Which is ironic, considering that the Islamic world is what drove science forward during the European dark age. And it is Islamic mathematics, particularly in the form of algebra, that underlie so much of what we call mathematics and science today. The collapse of the Islamic world into fundamentalism is one of the most tragic occurrences in human history.
39  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Is our children learning? on: September 13, 2013, 08:17:51 PM

Quote from: Alefroth on September 13, 2013, 08:09:31 PM

Quote from: naednek on September 13, 2013, 06:09:41 PM

"Hey class, this is what science believes and why, now here are some other beliefs/ideas that other people have and why."   From there depending on the teacher and more than likely they probably don't believe in creationism, you can explain/teach why they believe science is right.  But at least your teaching students different view points not for the sake of right and wrong, but because you know what, people in the world have different views on the same topic, whether you deem it right or wrong and it's always good to understand people's viewpoints.   [/color]


That isn't the point of a science class. And saying "This is what science believes" makes it sound like the other viewpoints may be valid.


Ale

+1

What naednek is describing might be a class, but it's not a science class.
40  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Is our children learning? on: September 13, 2013, 06:47:04 PM

Quote from: naednek on September 13, 2013, 05:16:58 PM

Again you're missing the point, or not understanding.  I'm not saying it needs to be taught in a right or wrong perspective.  I'm saying you can teach a topic that shows different viewpoints.  

In a science class there aren't different viewpoints to show. In science, there is only evolution. Nothing else has any business in science classrooms.
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