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161  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 22, 2013, 09:59:25 PM

Quote from: hepcat on July 22, 2013, 08:49:58 PM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 22, 2013, 08:10:48 PM

Quote from: hepcat on July 22, 2013, 07:29:53 PM

Pay attention.  You said Obama inserted himself into the case in your previous reply.  Zimmerman wasn't even brought up.  If you can't be bothered to read even your own posts, what chance does anyone else have?
Not following liberal logic, or may just not hep logic today, but you absofucking lost me with your last response.

It's actually logic you have trouble with (i'm guessing you chose your forum name as an ironic play on that failing).  Doesn't matter where it's coming from.

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 22, 2013, 06:11:04 PM

I've no doubt that I've come across as intolerant to left leaning views, and I accept that.  I've probably been more intolerant here than I actually am even...


The time I mentioned the inner city African American, no dads present issue, I wasn't quiet called a racist, but the point was dismissed here.  It is a real fucking issue, rather or not you or those on the left want to admit it.

Also, I'd love an opportunity to not bring up Obama in threads such as this, but my red headed carrot top loon, he brought himself into this issue when he shouldn't have and that isn't my fault.

I'd tell you to go back and reread my post on why he inserted himself, but as we've established, you aren't really that good with logic.

p.s  the reason Obama isn't speaking up everytime there's a murder in this country and the killer is black is simple:  he absolutely hates all white people.  you've found out the truth!  congratulations!  The african american conspiracy has suffered a fatal blow today thanks to anonymous internet poster Eco-Logic. 

You are one of life's winners.

You haz won da thred.

Holy shit you're a perfect specimen of outright liberal lunacy.  I.E. attempting to divert with stale ass humor with no basis in anything actually being discussed. 

Instead of spouting your lame ass bullshit, how about putting two sentences together and explaining to us why this president decided to comment on this case.  A case that any legal mind worth a damn agrees shouldn't have even been brought to trial, much taken to the circus level it was taken.
162  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 22, 2013, 08:37:09 PM
And as to "why" the POTUS inserted himself into this case, he shouldn't have and any of your fucking rumblings make no difference on that point.

He simple shouldn't have.

I've received a handful of messages asking me to bring up the African American teenager that shot the baby, I'd decided not to as i do feel it "trivializes the issue"but your recent shenanigans made it easier for me.




Honestly, we could post pictures all day long.  There isn't a valid reason, other than agenda pushing and race bating, that the "POTUS" should have made any response to this case.

The same can be said for Sharpton and Jackson, they need to just shrivel up and disappear.  Their time has passed, and they aren't close to being the civil rights "leaders" they're attempting to emulate...  They've done more harm than good and race relations and the brain cells of those that listen to them are the victims.
163  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 22, 2013, 08:10:48 PM

Quote from: hepcat on July 22, 2013, 07:29:53 PM

Pay attention.  You said Obama inserted himself into the case in your previous reply.  Zimmerman wasn't even brought up.  If you can't be bothered to read even your own posts, what chance does anyone else have?
Not following liberal logic, or may just not hep logic today, but you absofucking lost me with your last response.
164  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 22, 2013, 07:10:22 PM

Quote from: hepcat on July 22, 2013, 06:30:19 PM

No, but it is your fault for being so blind to anything but your own unfounded rage that you failed to understand WHY he inserted himself into the situation.  I attempted to explain it a few posts back but apparently I didn't dumb it down enough for you.

Please reiterate, as I read many, if not all of your posts in this thread (many of which were a lame ass attempt at humor, which I appreciate if applied appropriately).

If your claim is that Zimmerman inserted himself into the situation due to Martin's race, then, not only do I not have anything for you, but no one with a brain does.
165  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 22, 2013, 06:11:04 PM
I've no doubt that I've come across as intolerant to left leaning views, and I accept that.  I've probably been more intolerant here than I actually am even...


The time I mentioned the inner city African American, no dads present issue, I wasn't quiet called a racist, but the point was dismissed here.  It is a real fucking issue, rather or not you or those on the left want to admit it.

Also, I'd love an opportunity to not bring up Obama in threads such as this, but my red headed carrot top loon, he brought himself into this issue when he shouldn't have and that isn't my fault.
166  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 22, 2013, 05:25:11 PM
I agree that the premise of the article you quote is tragic, and something needs to change.


I personally feel the change that is required is at the FAMILY/community level.  It's a wide-spread, rampant issue and difficult to discuss/bring up...  The statistics don't lie though, and African Americans that are outspoken on this issue have my direct attention. 

Fireball, I welcome an open discussion on this, but I fear the environment here likely won't allow it.  The first one that calls me racist or a bigot is even more of an ignorant douche than I originally thought (said based on the last time I brought up this issue).
167  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 22, 2013, 04:32:32 PM
http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/a/SB10001424052702303302504577323691134926300?mg=reno64-wsj

Fantastic article that is spot on...
 

"The absurdity of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton is that they want to make a movement out of an anomaly. Black teenagers today are afraid of other black teenagers, not whites."

Also, you can try and make Stand Your Ground a part of this case.  The FACT remains that it ACTUALLY wasn't.
168  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 19, 2013, 07:39:18 PM
Such bullshit it's hard to understand how anyone can take him seriously.


The Prosecution (as fucking inept as they were), even agreed this case had nothing to do with SYG or Race.  You feel otherwise,  i fear you can't be helped.
169  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 18, 2013, 06:26:29 PM

Quote from: Moliere on July 18, 2013, 06:10:50 PM

Can we all finally agree that Florida's expanded self defense law "Stand Your Ground" had nothing to do with this case?

Quote
Bob Dekle, a retired prosecutor who also teaches at UF Law, said, " 'Stand your ground' turns out to have been a huge red herring (in the Zimmerman case.) The result very well could have been the same prior to enactment of the law."

Dekle, a critic of "stand your ground" provisions, said that even if a person initiates a fight, they always have had the right to defend themselves if they're in fear of death or great bodily harm. "You don't forfeit your right to do whatever you need to do to live simply because you've been a jerk," Dekle said.

The only question is whether Zimmerman was truly in danger when he fired the shot.

Don't hold your breath on them agreeing...

The Stand Your Ground law has been utilized in FL by African Americans by a pretty significant margin.

This case was never about race or stand your ground.
170  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 16, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
You seem to have lost what little humor you had...
171  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 16, 2013, 09:00:16 PM
Not really,but I do picture hep wearing a Carrot Top wig.

All kidding aside, it appears the federal gov will not be taking this case any further.  End of story.
172  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 16, 2013, 07:44:12 PM
Hahaha so damn clever, yet so dumb.   I'm just glad as hell I don't have to correspond with many folks as dumb as you Hep. 

This is a tragic case, and it's "on record"  that the bullshit president you elected is going to investigate and for any American worth a DAMN, that is ludicrous.
173  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 16, 2013, 05:40:34 PM

Quote from: ATB on July 16, 2013, 05:32:27 PM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 16, 2013, 05:18:58 PM

Hopefully we ALL agree Holder and the admin have no place pursuing anything in regard to this trial.

You're doing this on purpose now, aren't you?

Yes, that was on purpose, prompted by reports that the admin is "going to investigate".

I hope to God they let this case die, but the very notion that they're considering it is troubling to me.
174  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 16, 2013, 05:38:49 PM
Regardless of your opinion on the outcome of the trial, I believe it is reprehensible that the media (all channels) continue to cover this story.

They're doing nothing but adding fuel to the flames.
175  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 16, 2013, 05:18:58 PM
Hopefully we ALL agree Holder and the admin have no place pursuing anything in regard to this trial.
176  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 14, 2013, 12:01:55 PM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on July 14, 2013, 05:44:44 AM

"Stand your ground laws" are repulsive, indefensible and have no place in our society.



Bullshit.

*shudder*

I agree he should have stayed in the car and this was a tragic case.
177  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Grand Theft Auto V on: July 13, 2013, 12:56:39 PM
I thought this was interesting...

www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/11/hideo-kojima-depressed-by-grand-theft-auto-v
178  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Toilet Paper on: July 13, 2013, 04:46:16 AM
I prefer a water hose.
179  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: July 12, 2013, 08:27:44 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on July 12, 2013, 04:17:39 AM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 11, 2013, 08:27:31 PM

One thing that bothers me abut Xbox Live is the total lack of customizing it.  In other words, I'd love the ability to turn on my 360 and having to worry about my 3 or 5 year old seeing an undead Zombie or something else inappropriate for kids.  If you don't get this, you must not have kids.  We don't have a separate DVD player in the living room, so this is an issue.

There is actually a way to set the dashboard to "family" mode, so it won't show M/R rated material by default.  I think you can do that by going to Settings -> Family and setting a ratings limit there.  You can then go into Privacy & Online Settings -> Customize Content -> Filtering to set all content to the Family filter.

Thank you.  I should have investigated further.  I'll do this tonight.
180  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Health Care reform on: July 12, 2013, 12:42:11 AM

Quote from: Alefroth on July 12, 2013, 12:19:07 AM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 11, 2013, 08:15:32 PM


Why should a half-assed bill be pushed through to reform healthcare, with no plan in place to actually implement the damn thing?

Because Republicans will drag their feet at any mention of healthcare reform and it was the only way to get a foothold.


Quote from: Eco-Logic
(i will not be convinced that it is ever "okay" to stop a beating heart as that is only for our Creator to decide).

But you don't want to let the creator of the baby decide.

Ale

Really wasn't looking for a debate on abortion as its pointless.  I realize I brought it up and that was a mistake.  My point was simple though...  I can see how people are on the opposite side of social issues such as abortion.  Still at a loss how anyone can be pro this president.  Dead horse though.
181  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Need Help with Old HD on: July 11, 2013, 09:16:30 PM
I do have all of those parts, but still had a hard time connecting the adaptor.  Not sure why.
182  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 11, 2013, 09:12:23 PM

Quote from: Mystic95Z on July 11, 2013, 09:05:10 PM

Nothing but a waste of taxpayer dollars for this trial, no charges were filed until there was a public outcry (mainly by african americans) as the police thought IIRC that this fit the stand your ground law... If they dont like like laws they should petition their state reps to change it.

Exactly.
183  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 11, 2013, 08:47:54 PM
Don't like it only because its shit and a weak ass answer.  The fucking president of our country should not  have said anything about this case and the fact that you claim otherwise simply reinforces my decision to ignore every fucking ignorant thing you say.
184  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Health Care reform on: July 11, 2013, 08:41:38 PM
Lol. Wow. All that's needed.
185  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 11, 2013, 08:39:10 PM
Predictable?  Good, sure, who gives a shit?


Why did the POTUS say such an ASININE thing?  Especially regarding a trial that hadn't been decided?
186  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 11, 2013, 08:34:00 PM
Indeed.  It's a shame, because as edgy as we are as a country right now, I wouldn't be surprised at all if riots do occur.

Who said this and why?

"But my main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin. If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon. And I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves, and that we're going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened."

Was that necessary?
187  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: July 11, 2013, 08:27:31 PM
That was probably started by the new CEO of Zynga slywink

One thing that bothers me abut Xbox Live is the total lack of customizing it.  In other words, I'd love the ability to turn on my 360 and having to worry about my 3 or 5 year old seeing an undead Zombie or something else inappropriate for kids.  If you don't get this, you must not have kids.  We don't have a separate DVD player in the living room, so this is an issue.
188  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Health Care reform on: July 11, 2013, 08:15:32 PM

Quote from: hepcat on July 11, 2013, 07:44:24 PM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on July 11, 2013, 07:36:18 PM

I had typed out a post but realize it is not worth posting.  I do think it is worth posting the fact that despite our politics, no one can argue the fact that our infrastructure as a nation isn't ready, nor is our federal government ready to implement the ACA.

The infrastructure that has been built by the current (and essentially broken) model of health care?  Of course it's not ready.  And it never WILL be unless we force the change.

We actually don't disagree on the fact that we as Americans shouldn't be paying so much more for the same care offered to other technologically advanced countries.

I despise ACA as it's written and that's not worth getting into here.  I agree completely that healthcare should be reformed.

Why should a half-assed bill be pushed through to reform healthcare, with no plan in place to actually implement the damn thing?

It is hard for me to grasp the fact that people don't get how bad this bill, and the subsequent dodging/mishaps regarding the implementation of said bad bill actually are.   I've come to accept that fact now though and am eager to know how on earth you've come to the conclusion that implementing this bill is good for our country.

Other thoughts:

Has this President shown a propensity to lead?
Honest question, as I feel Clinton and Bush did in fact lead (even if I didn't agree with Clinton).

I simply don't see any leadership at all from Barack.

I expect "witty" comebacks that lack humor to anyone else, but welcome an actual discussion.

I GET how you all (liberals in general) and I can be so opposite on social issues such as abortion (i will not be convinced that it is ever "okay" to stop a beating heart as that is only for our Creator to decide).  I do not get the willful acceptance of incompetence though. 

I'm also pretty liberal on Gay rights as I don't think homosexual couples should be given different rights from heterosexual couples.

I'm also against capital punishment, unless there is absolute evidence of guilt (I.E. Bin Laden, CO theater shooter etc.)
189  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 11, 2013, 07:48:33 PM

Quote from: hepcat on July 11, 2013, 07:38:55 PM

The reason you didn't find a thread on this issue in Off Topic is because it's borderline R&P now...and will most certainly cross the line sooner rather than later anyway.

With that in mind...

The Stand Your Ground law is inherently flawed and too ambiguous to exist within the legal system.  I have no issue with self defense, but the initial use of that law in the early days of the case drove that point home for me.

As for Zimmerman, a trial was necessary in light of the fact that a 17 year old kid was shot and killed by someone who was explicitly told NOT to confront someone who was NOT breaking any laws by a representative of the police.  If no trial had taken place, it would weaken any future attempts to challenge self defense cases with similar circumstances. 

Whether or not he should be found guilty of anything is up to the jury that has been exposed to far more facts surrounding the case than any of us.

I would also add that groups on both sides of the fence regarding the case have acted despicably on more than one occasion.

I agree completely.

The media slant however was not required and did nothing but increase racial tensions which shouldn't have even been an issue.
190  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Health Care reform on: July 11, 2013, 07:36:18 PM
I had typed out a post but realize it is not worth posting.  I do think it is worth posting the fact that despite our politics, no one can argue the fact that our infrastructure as a nation isn't ready, nor is our federal government ready to implement the ACA.



*i really don't think we'll ever see this bill implemented as it's currently written. (You're right, I'm glad about this and I may be wrong)
191  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Snowden on: July 11, 2013, 07:29:28 PM
****initiate shield****
Incoming remark from hepcat regarding the fact that it would not give him satisfaction if we agree on something.
192  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Snowden on: July 11, 2013, 07:23:51 PM

Quote from: davidrobots on July 11, 2013, 07:04:27 AM

That moment when you realize we might be the bad guys...

I'm torn on how to even respond as I see where you're coming from, but I don't want to give our resident kitten the satisfaction of agreeing with him either.

All I know regarding this topic is that I'm personally grateful to Snowden for bringing to light what many of us (but not everyone in this country) thought was likely going on.

I can't imagine any of us are content with what is taking place.
193  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] Bond 24 on: July 11, 2013, 07:19:13 PM
I just watched Skyfall and thought it was great, definitely one of the best Bond movies I've seen.

I also like Nolan, but really I see no reason to change so this is good news.
194  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 11, 2013, 07:16:12 PM
I cannot fathom a world in which Zimmerman is found guilty of murder based upon the case presented by the inept prosecution.
195  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 11, 2013, 06:59:50 PM

Quote from: Mystic95Z on July 11, 2013, 06:52:54 PM

Prosecution is grasping... They know they got steamrolled....

They did get steamrolled, more so than I've ever witnessed.

The sad thing is this shouldn't have been the public spectacle it became.  It was turned into a race thing when it shouldn't have been.

If riots occur I think it's due in large part to the media's coverage of this tragic case.
196  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Zimmerman / Martin Thread? on: July 11, 2013, 06:40:56 PM
I searched and didn't find one.  There surely is one here somewhere, right?

Direct me to it so I can vent. 

Child abuse?  Are you shitting me?
197  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Need Help with Old HD on: July 10, 2013, 12:12:15 AM
Our old laptop's screen broke and I need to access pictures that are on the hard drive to move them to our current laptop.

I've attached pictures of the hd, and an adapter I purchased in order to accomplish this.

I now think I purchased the wrong type of adapter.

Will what I bought work?

What would be the easiest way to accomplish this if not?

Thanks in advance.
198  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Android Browser vs Chrome on: July 09, 2013, 11:44:09 PM
They both are made by Google. 

Chrome is definitely better.  Chrome seems faster and the ability to sync (bookmarks, tabs, history) with anything else running Chrome is pretty sweet.

I'm not real sure about other differences aside from appearance.  I do know Chrome doesn't run as well on older Android devices.  On those the Android browser or Dolphin should be used.
199  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] The Lone Ranger on: July 05, 2013, 07:09:58 PM

Quote from: Blackjack on July 05, 2013, 05:54:23 PM

Not to pile on...

Little Interest in ‘Lone Ranger’ Is Blow for Disney
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/06/business/media/little-interest-in-lone-ranger-is-blow-for-disney.html?_r=0
Quote
Walt Disney Studios spent the July 4 holiday watching its expensive action western, “The Lone Ranger,” disintegrate in a box-office collision with a strong performance by the goofy little animated heroes of Universal Pictures’s “Despicable Me 2.”
...
 A Disney spokesman on Friday declined to discuss the film’s performance.

Early Tuesday, the analyst Doug Creutz, with Cowen & Company in San Francisco, was quoted in a report from the Bloomberg News service, predicting that Disney would eventually write off $100 million on “The Lone Ranger.”

That would be about half the write-down it took on another large-scale film disaster, “John Carter,” which cost about $350 million to make and market, and collected only about $282 million at the worldwide box office after its release in March 2012. (Studios keep only part of the box office receipts, which are shared with exhibitors, but also collect money from home entertainment and other sales.) A year earlier, Disney had suffered a similar disaster with another expensive flop, “Mars Needs Moms.”
imho, Disney should've canceled the movie when the budget ($225M) got so crazy out of hand. Do you really need $225M and an army of digital FX artists to do an entertaining Lone Ranger movie? Yes, if you're Jerry Bruckheimer and Gore Vidal. No, if...

Oh I'll stop beating a dead Silver, so to speak. disgust No doubt they'll reboot this in five years. Probably with a space alien archery-expert girl as the Lone Ranger. The kids love that stuff!

Agree completely!
200  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Health Care reform on: July 05, 2013, 01:58:13 AM

Quote from: hepcat on July 05, 2013, 12:13:43 AM

I love watching Eco get repeatedly schooled by folks on a forum he says is full of stupid people.  He's like a toddler trying to explain gravity to an adult.   icon_lol

Oh back with petty immature insults.  Sticking with the playbook at least.
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