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15481  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / So what the heck is Growlanser? on: July 23, 2004, 03:37:12 AM
You know, ever thought of going directly to the source to see what it is? biggrin

Even according to them, the game is due out in September. Personally, I know I'll be buying the game, even if I don't get much of a chance to play it. Working Designs is that good of a company.

That, and their games tend to go for full price (if not more so) on eBay for years after their release... *looks over at the Lunar titles on both the PS1 and Sega CD*
15482  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / XB Live Content for those of us without Live? on: July 22, 2004, 05:07:26 PM
Doesn't the Official Xbox Magazine occasionally have new Live content on their discs? Or am I thinking of something completely different?
15483  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / 60 Minute Shakedown: Sudeki on: July 22, 2004, 01:42:27 PM
After a very long wait, another RPG has appeared on the Xbox market - Sudeki. Some have said that this is little more than a hold-over title until the greats like Fable and KotOR:II come out. Is it? Well, here's my 60 minute (and just a bit more) impressions:

To be very blunt, this is the best part of the game by far. The world is vibrant, colorful, filled with polygons, and detailed. People run around the towns, and they all seem to be different from one another. No attack of the clones here.

The character models are large and expressive, and are detailed enough to zoom in for closeups during the 'talking heads' sequences and still look quite good. Mouths will move in pretty close sync with the speech as well.

During combat, you'll face the clones (like in most all RPGs). Special effects are used in abundance with every hit, and when you kill your opponents, they explode into a pool of blood and body parts. I thought I was playing a Mortal Kombat game after my first opponent fell to my blade.

The game opens with a decent looking CGI movie, but it looked like it was a slightly enhanced in-game engine movie instead of a CGI masterpiece like Namco or Square.

The frame-rate seems to be locked at either 30 or 60fps (can't really tell yet), and while I've seen a few bits of slowdown already, I don't know if it's a problem yet. The game also supports Progressive Scan natively.

Whoo boy. First off, the music is pretty standard RPG fare from my listening in the first hour. I didn't find any songs that stood out, but I didn't find any that were grating to the ear either.

What I did find that wanted me to mute the game was the voices. To use the old PC terms, this game is a full talky, which means that every single line of text in the entire game is spoken (with a scrolling text box at the bottom if you mute your TV). This is a very uncommon thing in an RPG. In fact, I can't think of a RPG in recent memory that did this.

However, there is a reason why you don't see this - the lack of quality voice actors. You know that Rare (now owned by Microsoft) uses voice actors drawn from their pool of employees, right? Sudeki does the exact same thing, but unlike Rare (where the voice actors tend to be actually good), these voices, well, suck.

I immediately hated the voice given to one of your female party members (and I haven't even gotten her in my party yet), and the voices of the other three in your crew (of which I also haven't gotten) aren't any better.  Hopefully things will improve, but I honestly doubt they will.

Like Tales of Destiny on the Gamecube, Sudeki is best described as an Action/RPG. All combats will take place on the world map you run around in, with nary a load time short of enemies 'beaming' in. Yes, they actually teleport in all around you.

Combat is a twitch-fest, but with some stragety. The two melee fighters (of which I've only gotten the 'hero') are capable of 3 hit combos right off the start, which are governed by a small box in the corner of the screen. Hit the next button while the box is glowing, and you continue the combo. Unfortunately I've seen exactly two good combos, both of which allow you to extend that 3 hitter into a 6 one, also striking everything in your general area in the process. Hopefully I won't use that move over and over the entire game, but it honestly looks like I will.

You also have a slew of special skills (and magic, eventually) to choose from. When you want to use one of your powers (or go into your inventory to drag out a healing item), the game slows down dramatically, ala The Matrix. It doesn't give you unlimited time to think, but it's slow enough that you have plenty of time to choose what you want without feeling rushed.

As far as combat goes in general though, I really don't like it. Tales of Destiny for the Gamecube seemed to give you far more control of battle right off the bat. It also is a ton more fun, and even faster-paced than this game.

Sudeki is a pretty looking game, with a very poor set of voice actors, and a combat engine that while looks entertaining, I don't know if it'll keep my interest during the course of the game. Will things improve as I move forward? I sure as heck hope so. The first hour was not that all impressive.
15484  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Sudeki is Gold on: July 22, 2004, 06:40:16 AM
Oh my God, is this a poor game after the first hour of play... Wowzers. Expect a 60-minute Shakedown as soon as I get a bit of sleep. Trying to write at 11:30PM isn't exactly the best of ideas.

And it would've been up eariler, if UPS didn't misplace my local EB's shipment of this game...
15485  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Why Dwarves Can't Dance (a WoW movie) on: July 21, 2004, 10:44:39 PM
No, I did not make this, nor am I related to this in any way, shape, or form.

But click this link anyway for all the crazy dance 'moves' in WoW:

Note - not exactly work safe due to the excessive use of near naked Night Elves and Humans shaking their asses like it was 1999. biggrin
15486  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Console Gold Shirts / Hats? (Not CafePress) on: July 21, 2004, 10:29:18 PM
As long as the shirt itself was white, and not black (as we Arizonians would simply die out there), I do believe I'd be interested.

But I'm with Tebunker - a small logo on the front pocket, full sized thing on the back.
15487  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / co-op gaming on: July 20, 2004, 04:33:16 PM
Quote from: "Balshazaar"
Can't Battlefield 1942 be played Co-op?

The single player 'AI' is pathethically dumb, and that's putting it nicely. Avoid that game at all costs on the PC if you're looking for co-op.
15488  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Vaseline Hotel on: July 19, 2004, 07:31:56 PM
Go visit everyone's favorite and type in the following and punch the 'I'm Feeling Lucky' button:

vaseline hotel

If for some reason that doesn't work, go visit this direct link:

Warning: Not exactly fully work safe due to one word inside. However, it is, well, disturbing. Thoughts?  biggrin
15489  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Scary games... on: July 19, 2004, 07:13:06 PM
For the record, System Shock 2 was the only game I've ever played that fully scared the bajezzers out of me. And it did it pretty much the entire game.

Now, I've never played any of the Fatal Frame games. I've seen them played from a friend of mine, and it seemed spooky enough, but I've never sat down and actually played it.

I might have to pick it up. Just gotta find the time to play it. frown

Edit - Mitch, what is wrong with you? SS2 is one of the best games of all time just because of how scary of a title it is. You must not have any fear or something.
15490  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy... on: July 19, 2004, 04:55:10 PM
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaerin waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

I dig this one up out of my Trillian logs and thought it would make an interesting way to start off another week. Neat, huh?
15491  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / co-op gaming on: July 19, 2004, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: "The Rocketman"
What would be the best one out of all these titles? I haven't got any of the games mentioned, but my "main cooperative games-friend" has recently fallen in love with diablo2, so he'd like these games too I guess...

Champions of Norrath out of all of them. And I've played them all (BG:DA 1&2, Fallout, CoN). Solo, unfortunately, but I've played them all.
15492  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / 60 minute Shakedown Premiere: Tales of Symphonia on: July 18, 2004, 05:44:51 PM
Quote from: "Balshazaar"
I guess I don't know how to do this.  I've used the lens, but all I see is the amount of HP that the character has.  How do you see what their weakness is?

I've lensed people as well, and I've never seen a weakness sitting in the little window that pops up showing their HP/MP.

Then again, maybe I've not lensed somebody who's ever had a magical weakness, as I only use it on bosses...

I know the game pauses when you hold down the R button to change targets. Tried that? Or can you access the Monster Book (whatever they call it) during fights? I know that shows weaknesses for sure.

I'm asking all these questions, because as usual, I'm at work.
15493  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / co-op gaming on: July 18, 2004, 02:50:51 PM
Most definitely get Champions of Norrath - I've played them all, and that one is the best out of the bunch. Stay away from Fallout (will put you to sleep), and D&D:H isn't that good IMHO.
15494  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Doom 3 Xbox or PC? on: July 17, 2004, 05:17:23 PM
As long as ATI gets off their buts and ships their Radeon x800 XT to stores in quanities, I'll be all set to play the PC version in two weeks. My 9700 Pro is getting old. smile

15495  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / 60 minute Shakedown Premiere: Tales of Symphonia on: July 16, 2004, 06:48:50 PM
Quote from: "Balshazaar"
I'll give that a shot.  The game looks great, but Namco loses huge points for not being more clear about the multiplayer aspect since they advertise it on the box, and it was one of their 'big' selling points: the first console RPG with multiplayer.  My girlfriend and I really want to play through it together, but were frustrated when we couldn't figure that out.

It's most definitely not the first console RPG with multiplayer. Heck - Namco's other Tales games (the PS1 one we saw here in America at least) fully supported multiplayer once you got a certain item in the game.

That and the classic Final Fantasy 3 (6 if you go by the Japanese numbering system) supported multiplayer as well, technically. Not very well (as each player got a set of characters to use in combat), but it had multiplayer.

I'll have to go plug in a second controller into my 'Cube and give it a whirl tonight.
15496  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Favorite Genre on: July 16, 2004, 04:45:41 AM
Quote from: "Knightshade Dragon"
I went with RPG as well, but after playing FF X-2 and Drakengard I can say that isn't true for me

FFX-2 is a fan service title and Drakengard is more of an Action/RPG than anything else. Neither are a good example of a good RPG.

For that matter, what was the last good pure RPG out there? Heck - what was the last good pure RPG that I've played? Now that's a thought.

RPG for me though for favorite genre.
15497  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / 60 minute Shakedown Premiere: Tales of Symphonia on: July 16, 2004, 04:43:20 AM
Quote from: "Balshazaar"
I took this to mean that both of us could participate in the battles.  How do you get this to work?  Or how do you get any of the multiplayer to work?  I can't figure it out... Help!

From what I know, if you plug in another controller, and set another player to Manual (inside the Tech Assign screen if I remember right), the new controller will control the extra player(s).

However, when I tried to assign myself (playing with only one controller) to another member of my party (by switching the hero to Auto, and the next hero to Manual), I couldn't control the other member. Any guesses on that part?
15498  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Worlds of Warcraft - An Introspective on: July 13, 2004, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: "Gedd"
It's also kind of funny some of the stuff you can find.  Someone the other day linked an item in chat that they'd caught called "teamster's head."  Ah, here it is on Thottbot.

I liked the Dwarven Fishing Pole I saw posted the other day. Yes, folks, this is a gun.  :shock:

Question for the other beta testers - is it worth getting Fishing up to rank 2 (or above)? I've maxed it out at 75 now, and I've found a few interesting items to make it worth fishing from time to time just to make a bit of cash. Either that, or I should get Skinning Rank 2, and keep skinning the mobs I off all over the place.
15499  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Worlds of Warcraft - An Introspective on: July 13, 2004, 04:27:18 PM
Quote from: "Gedd"
Still, WoW is hands-down one of the best games I've played and easily the best MMO (although I've only played it, SWG, and CoH, so that's not saying much).

It's funny - as amazing as the crafting/tradeskill system is, there is exactly one boring tradeskill - fishing. And even that is interactive, as you need to hit a button at an indicated time to get your catch. And there's lots more to catch than just fish as well... smile

All crafting tradeskills automatically succeed, period. There is none of this 'whoops, I goofed' stuff in the game. Short of fishing, where the fish can get away.

Geez, I keep saying nothing but bad things about fishing. :roll:

What else... The quests you do are based (mostly) around the area you get the quest in. The level of the quest is directly based on the level of the mobs you'll have to hunt. Some quest givers won't give out quests until you gain enough levels, and most quests seem soloable (although a duo makes things much, much easier).

As much fun as CoH is, WoW is going to be the cream of the crop. The game is so far along that it could be released today, and be better than Everquest ever was in my mind.
15500  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Worlds of Warcraft - An Introspective on: July 12, 2004, 08:52:11 PM
One last thing about WoW - this game is fun. I haven't had so much absolute *fun* playing a PC game since CoH...

Blasted addicting MMOs...
15501  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Bethesda Softworks to publish Fallout 3!!! on: July 12, 2004, 08:21:53 PM
This just popped into my mailbox - thought I'd post it here before it appeared on the site:

Bethesda Softworks to Develop and Publish Fallout 3

July 12, 2004 (Rockville, MD) - Bethesda Softworks® announced today that it will develop and publish Fallout® 3 -- a sequel to the highly popular Fallout® role-playing game franchise. Bethesda licensed the rights to the Fallout® franchise from Interplay Entertainment Corp. (OTC Bulletin Board: IPLY) in a deal that awards Bethesda exclusive worldwide rights to the Fallout® franchise on the PC, home consoles, handhelds, and other media, with the rights to develop and publish additional sequels.

“We’re extremely excited about this opportunity and what it means both for Bethesda and for Fallout fans around the world,” said Vlatko Andonov, president of Bethesda Softworks. “Fallout is one of the great RPG franchises. Millions of Fallout games have been sold worldwide, and fans have been eagerly awaiting the release of a Fallout 3 title. Bethesda’s proven expertise in this genre, building on our experience and the tremendous success we have enjoyed with our cutting-edge Elder Scrolls® series, will enable us to create the next chapter of Fallout that is worthy of the franchise.”

Originally released in 1997, Fallout places a player in the role of a Vault-dweller, who ventures from his secluded, underground survival Vault into a post-apocalyptic world of mutants, radiation, gangs and violence. The game has been widely hailed as one of the outstanding role-playing games and video games of all time with its unique gameplay, style, and setting.

Commenting on this development, Interplay Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Herve Caen said, “This is a good agreement for both companies and for gamers. Although several parties had a high level of interest in licensing Fallout, we are most impressed by Bethesda’s execution of role-playing titles. Bethesda is an ideal steward of the Fallout franchise.”

Fallout 3 will be developed by Bethesda along with the next chapter of The Elder Scrolls, both under the direction of Todd Howard, executive producer of The Elder Scrolls. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind® won every national and international award of note in 2002, including Game of the Year and RPG of the Year, and is one of the best-selling games ever released on Xbox.

“We are overjoyed,” said Howard. “Fallout is one of my favorite games, and we plan to develop a visually stunning and original game for Fallout 3 with all the hallmarks of a great RPG: player choice, engaging story, and non-linearity.”

Future announcements about the release of Fallout 3 will be made as work on the title progresses.

About Bethesda Softworks®
Headquartered in Rockville, Maryland, Bethesda Softworks LLC, a ZeniMax Media company, is a premier developer and publisher of entertainment software. Bethesda has won every major national and international software award for its titles, including The Elder Scrolls® series and the Terminator™ series. Its product line spans the sports, racing, RPG, strategy, and action genres. For more information on Bethesda Softworks’ products, visit

About Interplay
Interplay Entertainment Corp. is a developer, publisher and distributor of interactive entertainment software for both core gamers and the mass market. Interplay releases products through Interplay, Black Isle Studios and its distribution partners.

The Elder Scrolls, Morrowind, Bethesda Softworks, ZeniMax, and their logos are registered trademarks of ZeniMax Media Inc. Fallout is a registered trademark of Interplay Entertainment Corp. Microsoft, Xbox and the Xbox logos are registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/or other countries. All Rights Reserved.
15502  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / OXM Sudeki Demo on: July 12, 2004, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: "Lockdown"
On a positive note however, I am now completely hooked on KotoR, and am wondering how in the world I avoided this game for so very long, considering it won like 600 Game of the Year Awards.

It is absolutely a tremendous game.... and I have only just begun.

This should occupy all my time until the release of ESPN Football 2k5  -  which is perfect!

And I have gotten yet another person addicted on a console/PC game thanks to my discussion. My work here is done.  :twisted:
15503  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Worlds of Warcraft - An Introspective on: July 12, 2004, 07:33:20 PM
WoW has basically taken over my PC time, as it's absolutely nothing like a level-grind like ALL the other MMOs I've played (EQ, DAoC, AO, SB, SWG), as there's so much to do other than just killing for experience (crafting, herb collecting, fishing, general chatting, wandering).

Sure, you do kill, but the meat of this game are missions. Each town/land you enter has a ton of quests to do (which do mostly revolve around killing, but there are quite a few exceptions), which net a ton of bonus experience on top of doing the quest itself. And each mission has its own story as well, which really draws you in.

The only exception to the above is CoH. That game is so fast paced and so much fun to play that you don't realize that you're just doing a level grind. The ton of missions available (even though they give squat for experience at the end) helps. Although they really need more mission interiors.

But between WoW, CoH, and the two console RPGs I intend to buy in the next two weeks (Tales of Symphonia on the Cube and Sudeki on the Xbox), I suddenly no longer have the free time to do anything. Gotta get my priorities straight though for the site though...

More WoW time!  :twisted:
15504  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Spam Spam Spam! on: July 12, 2004, 07:00:26 PM
Quote from: "whiteboyskim"
I'm just glad I don't have a Hotmail account anymore.

Actually, Hotmail is far, far better than ever before. All my spam just goes into a 'junk mail' folder automagically. I just got my first piece of pron/spam that didn't get caught by their filters in like a month.

Good luck to the anti-spammers though. The world would be a far better place without all of them. Just like telemarketers.
15505  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / What would you do if there were no video games? on: July 10, 2004, 04:42:39 PM
Quote from: "stiffler"
Reading.  Lots and lots of reading.  Probably catch up on my DVD watching.  I just can't imagine watching more television.

I agree with you here 100%. I have a large pile of books that desperately needs to be read, among other things.
15506  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / OXM Sudeki Demo on: July 10, 2004, 04:39:05 PM
Quote from: "Lockdown"
Do you guys know of any others that are already out for the xbox that are like this game?  Turn Based Combat is fine with me by the way.  I am more interested in all those cool powers and skill points and stuff like that.  

Based on how the game is described (as I haven't played the demo), I'm guessing that Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is exactly what you're looking for. It's technically Turn Based (although it doesn't look like it in action), and is one of the best RPGs ever made.
15507  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / OXM Sudeki Demo on: July 09, 2004, 04:57:37 PM
Goodie - yet another RPG I have to buy...

The worst part? Tales of Symphonia (which is a must buy in my mind) comes out the week before...
15508  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Spider Man in Lego on: July 09, 2004, 06:45:44 AM
Not only is it high quality, but it's funny as heck as well. Made it worthy for my Wrap this morning.  biggrin
15509  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Huh? on: July 09, 2004, 12:12:00 AM
Quote from: "Hrothgar"
How do you save money by cancelling a completed game?  Is it really so bad that they couldn't make back a limited run's duplication costs?

As stated from the PR piece we posted a few days back:

BattleBorne(TM) Entertainment, Inc. today announced that a preliminary injunction has been entered in its favor against Acclaim Entertainment, Inc. (OTCBB: AKLM) by order of the Supreme Court of the State of New York, County of Nassau. The preliminary injunction restrains Acclaim from shipping BattleBorne's Combat Elite(TM): WWII Paratroopers for the Sony(R) (NYSE:SNE) PlayStation2 and Microsoft(R) (NasdaqNM: MSFT) Xbox platforms. BattleBorne Entertainment has sued Acclaim for breaching the parties' development agreement by failing to make payments when due and by threatening to release Combat Elite prior to making all required payments.

Ah, lawsuits due to lack of payment...
15510  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / River City Ransom EX... good game for a newbie? on: July 08, 2004, 05:48:29 PM
Yeah, RCR is a great old-school beat-em-up in my mind, just like the classics you mentioned (but far more fun). The fact that it doesn't have multiplayer is a crime, but you said that you wouldn't mind that feature.

BARF!  :twisted:
15511  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Do what the Dept of Homeland Security Says.... on: July 08, 2004, 05:43:50 PM
I still use Firefox .8, as .9 doesn't support some of the things correctly I have to have in my surfing (ad-blocking and mouse gestures). Other than that, it's an absolutely fantastic browser.

Never see an ad, can simply move my mouse to navigate, and nothing will EVER install behind my back.
15512  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Spiderman Sells 2 million on: July 07, 2004, 08:15:51 PM
However, unlike Atari's PR announcement stating that 2 million copies of Driv3r have been 'sold', odds are that Activision has actually sold a total closer to this 2 million.  :twisted:
15513  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Circuit City Clearance 4.99 games on: July 05, 2004, 08:52:00 PM
If anyone can find me Rez, I'll gladly pay you double (if not more) of Circuit City's price.

And you didn't get Panzer Dragoon, Ron? Shame on you. smile
15514  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / [CG] Crimson Skies - July 3rd on: July 04, 2004, 06:29:31 PM
Quote from: "AgtFox"
Do you guys like have your computer in the same room as your Xbox or something?  Sheesh...I have to move from room to room to post and go back to Xbox...heh.

Well, I have AIM on my laptop, so all I have to do is move to my TV room.

Unfortunately, I have to drag this butt ugly cable from my Xbox to my PC every time I want to play online. 30 some ft worth.

Lockdown - let's just say that I was. Ron's favorite game type is Keep Away, and I'm sorta good at it. biggrin
15515  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Happy 4th of July! on: July 04, 2004, 06:26:50 PM
Quote from: "Foxmerc"
This is my first 4th in a state that allows fireworks...methinks the fire department will get no rest tonight.

Here in Arizona, it's so dry that one misplaced firework burns half the state down. Count yourself lucky.
15516  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / [CG] Crimson Skies - July 3rd on: July 04, 2004, 03:53:32 AM
Quote from: "FoolishStudios"
Hey guys, it won't let me into Tim's game for some reason

Just noticed and letting Loren recreate.
15517  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / [CG] Crimson Skies - July 3rd on: July 04, 2004, 03:13:00 AM
Quote from: "AgtFox"
I'm waiting...

Add DestructorCG to your friends list. I'm online.
15518  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / [CG] Crimson Skies - July 3rd on: July 04, 2004, 01:44:28 AM
Give me a buzz, Ron, and I'll be there. Dragging a friend along as well.
15519  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Spider-Man 2 Review Discussion on: June 30, 2004, 02:21:45 PM
Quote from: "AgtFox"
Can I just say that Jeff Gerstmann is a tool?  He gave the game a 7.2...way too low in my opinion.  Right now I'd probably put it in the 80s, maybe low 90.  The graphics aren't the best, but when you look at the sheer size of what you can see with no loading you begin to respect the graphics for what they are.

A 7.2? Good lord. This is an outstanding game, worthy of the score I gave it. But, to each their own I guess.
15520  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Game Discussion: Spider-Man 2 [All] on: June 29, 2004, 11:18:25 PM
Quote from: "stiffler"
It was posted in the GG forum that you cannot retry missions that you have failed. Is that correct?

For the most part this is wrong. Depending on mission, you'll respawn instantly, with only a slight loading time to 'port' you back to the mission start point.

Same thing if you die while on a mission - odds are you'll respawn rather close to where you dropped in the mission point.

Going for the photo shots from JJJ? You'll be able to retry. The travel challenges? Same thing. The story missions to trail somebody? Same thing.

The only 'missions' you can't retry are the ones you'll get from citizens. IE: The save somebody missions. You get one chance at those. But they also happen so often via the 'generic citizen needs help' listing, that you'll do them again.
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