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81  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Wii U] Xenoblade Chronicles X on: December 02, 2015, 08:00:04 PM

Quote from: Gratch on December 01, 2015, 02:11:05 PM

Sounds like there is an incredible world to explore here, but very little in the way of story.

82  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Need PC recommendations on: December 02, 2015, 07:57:46 PM
Dont want to come across as a PC snob, especially since I enjoy console systems, but most third party AAA titles for the consoles wind up on the PC also. With the rare exception, the PC version is always the best if you have a decent system. Also, be sure to pick up an xbox controller for your PC. Almost every modern game supports it, with the obvious exception of certain games built specifically for the PC.
83  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Apple] It's about time... on: November 14, 2015, 09:23:40 AM
I picked up the ipad pro also. I'm using it mostly as a consumption device, and I couldn't be happier. Comics and magazines look absolutely glorious on it, and the weight is a non issue. It actually weighs less than the ipad 4 did "back in the day", albeit stretched out into a larger format.

I'm pleased to see that all of my apps and games that were created for the regular ipad look very good on the screen.I was concerned about issues due to the unusual resolution. The speakers are better than my fiancées ipad air, which makes it a great device to stream Netflix in the kitchen while I cook, without the need to use a blue tooth speaker.

The pen was available at my local Apple store, along with the smart case and Smart Cover. The pen is exceptional, and even though I'm an amateur artist, I love it. in the hands of a professional, amazing things could be done.

Apple should push adobe to enhance their line of products for ios.

Anyway, a well made, beautiful device.
84  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So are the Steam forums always filled with so many immature people? on: November 13, 2015, 01:03:16 AM

Quote from: Blackjack on November 12, 2015, 11:05:02 PM

fwiw, for years I've recommend GT forums to friends of mine. I've been here since around 2007-2008 after a temporary falling out at a smaller forum. But most of the folks I tried to convince to hang out here didn't stay. Some said we're one big "clique" and new posters either aren't welcome or they're ignored. Others didn't like the feeling of being on a large forum with masses of posters -- essentially feeling like a "nobody" here. That's not my take on GT forums though.  icon_smile

I'm surprised that people you've brought here felt like they weren't welcome. I haven't experienced that, but I do see some topics being ignored. I think that is simply related to low traffic coupled with a topic that doesn't get much interest.

I do agree that it is very cool to see just about EVERY game on Steam get its own forum. Sometimes it is the only place I can find the answer to a particular puzzle in an RPG or adventure game.
85  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (11/10) on: November 11, 2015, 01:56:24 PM
Damn, when I heard that the new Tomb Raider was a timed XB1 exclusive, I assumed that meant XB1 and PC. I didn't realize MS locked it down solely to the console. It makes sense, but I'm disappointed.
86  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Time to research home theater speakers? on: November 10, 2015, 02:10:46 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 03, 2015, 01:21:51 AM

So we ended up going with a set of Klipsh for the theater set, and we used a soundbar for the front room TV.   So far so good.  biggrin

klipsch are excellent. Congrats! Bang for the buck, they are hard to beat.
87  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC, PS4, XB1]Fallout 4 on: November 10, 2015, 02:08:59 PM
I'm surprised that there aren't more and more people simply waiting on the game of the year editions for Fallout/Elder Scrolls. This is especially true if you are a PC gamer. By that time the bugs have been worked out, the mod scene is in full force, and all of the official DLC is available.

This is one of those rare titles that only gets better with a reasonable amount of age.
88  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So are the Steam forums always filled with so many immature people? on: October 29, 2015, 12:15:13 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on October 29, 2015, 03:14:16 AM

Quote from: Dante Rising
1) Divinity Original Sin Enhanced Edition was released on Xbox live several hours before Steam. Certain individuals went berserk, despite the fact that all owners of the PC original edition game were getting the enhanced edition for FREE.  All they had to do was wait a few extra hours. Instead comments were posted talking about how Larian had stabbed PC gamers in the back, and how they were catering to console gamers instead of the people who saved their development house.

Unfortunately this is becoming more and more common as technology gives us the power to get anything we want almost instantly. My kids will never know what it means to have to wait for anything.

Jeff Tucker on the 91 Reasons podcast related a story about how he used to work the door at the Snoopy Ice Show at Knott's Berry Farm. He was in charge of turning people away when the theater filled to capacity. He said that he had people threaten to kill him because the venue was full and they'd have to wait for the next show. Threaten to KILL him.  retard

I agree that instantaneous delivery of content is a double edged sword. While I love having access to hundreds of thousands of books and movies at my fingertips, I miss the days of wandering through a Borders Bookstore, or Blockbuster video, looking for that hidden gem I never knew existed. For my family and I, it was something of a weekend ritual. We would stop by Blockbuster, get a movie for the evening, and then drive over to Borders Bookstore. There we would grab some food and browse through the bookshelves. Neither of those stores exist in my area any longer. I just push a button on Netflix or my Kindle.
89  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Not sure what to do with my MacBook Pro on: October 29, 2015, 02:53:55 AM

Quote from: Teggy on October 29, 2015, 02:44:15 AM

Well good news, the problem I have is a known defect and I'll be getting my MacBook repaired free of charge. Hopefully it's got a new lease on life and I can get my next MacBook when they release one I like.

And my xbox will be getting an additional TB of storage.

That is great news! Was it someone at the Apple Store that identified the problem?
90  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So are the Steam forums always filled with so many immature people? on: October 29, 2015, 01:02:12 AM

Quote from: Glycerine on October 28, 2015, 11:37:22 PM

I'll just leave this here:

In short, what TiLT and Teggy said.

Awesome. I still remember going online a few years ago, excited about playing a new MMO. I'm the type of person who enjoys getting immersed in the game, and I had high hopes for this title.

I walked up to someone's avatar, expecting a name like Nicodemus or Stormwarden. Instead I got......19InchJohnson.

91  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / So are the Steam forums always filled with so many immature people? on: October 28, 2015, 08:59:17 PM
I usually don't frequent the Steam forums, but lately I've been going there to get specific information on a several games. The level of idiocy on display is remarkable. I feel like I have a front row seat viewing the decline of western civilization. A few tidbits:

1) Divinity Original Sin Enhanced Edition was released on Xbox live several hours before Steam. Certain individuals went berserk, despite the fact that all owners of the PC original edition game were getting the enhanced edition for FREE.  All they had to do was wait a few extra hours. Instead comments were posted talking about how Larian had stabbed PC gamers in the back, and how they were catering to console gamers instead of the people who saved their development house.

2) Rebel galaxy was released and one particular gamer had technical issues (save game mysteriously disappeared), so he went on a tirade about the game being released in alpha status. He also demanded a refund, PLUS $75 per hour for each hour of gaming that he lost. (Since when he does game testing that is his hourly wage.Suuuure.) The developer tried everything to apologize for his unfortunate experience, and even offered to send him a new save game file with some extras, but the tirade continued.

3) My friend was having difficulty with controller support for a game, and posted that he was very disappointed that the game was not recognizing the Xbox or PS4 controller. Several people started bashing him for using a gamepad instead of a KB/M configuration. When he explained that his only PC was his HTPC, and a KB/M wasn't optimal, a few forum members went into high gear with the veiled profanity. When the developer chimed in to resolve the gamepad issues, these same individuals attacked him for "dumbing down PC gaming".

4) Another friend, this time a female gamer, made the mistake of mentioning that she was female. The forum topic devolved into people asking her to "prove" that she was female, because she didn't "write" like a girl. And then someone decided to bring up rape....

The most grating portion of these types of situations is that other people who come out to defend the developer or topic creator start to use the same type of disparaging comments against the people who are already acting like idiots. It is amazing what anonymity does to certain individuals morale compasses.

Anyway, just my own distorted perspective on the Steam forums. I realize that absurd behavior is everywhere. My fiancee is a school teacher, and her stories border on the impossible. I think she actually works in the Mos Eisley Cantina from Star Wars.

92  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (10/27) on: October 28, 2015, 03:05:10 PM

Quote from: Gratch on October 28, 2015, 02:29:21 PM

Quote from: siege on October 27, 2015, 12:43:45 PM

Divinity on PS4. Been playing it all morning and it's excellent!

Good to hear.  It fell a little flat with me on PC, but I think I just wasn't in the right mood when I tried it.  I find that I generally have better luck playing things on the big screen...will have to give it another look.

The new revised version of Divinity Original Sin is absolutely superb. I owned it on the PC, so I received the upgrade for free. The updates are excellent, especially the tactician difficulty level, which allows the enemies to use a wider range of combat techniques and spells. However, Gratch, if you didn't like the original release, I can't see you falling in love with this one.

But you owned it on the PC, so everyone gets the upgrade for free. I think it is worth a second look. I'm playing it on my HTPC with an Xbox controller, and it is glorious.
93  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: How long do you give a game to capture your interest? on: October 22, 2015, 06:29:59 PM
I'm surprised by the number of people who only find a few titles worth playing. There are so many platforms now, with so much new content on a weekly or monthly basis, that the choices seem almost overwhelming now. And many of these new games, especially on the indie side, are very high quality.

One of our own forum members mentioned that there are only two or three games being released this holiday season that he is interested in. I'm not even sure how that is possible. Almost every genre has an extensive number of high quality releases on the horizon. Perhaps if you only own one console, that may be the case. But for those of us who own multiple consoles and handhelds....there is almost too much content
94  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / How long do you give a game to capture your interest? on: October 22, 2015, 04:03:36 AM
Between the various consoles, handhelds, ios and Steam, I have a few hundred games in my backlog. There are more interesting games coming out than I can keep up with, so the backlog continues to expand.

Recently, I was playing Natural Doctrine, and came to the realization that I was playing the game simply to complete it, and not because I was enjoying it. Upon further reflection, I never really enjoyed the game. Instead I was expecting it to get better, so I kept trudging along. Tonight I traded it in, along with a dozen other games.

I'm curious how each of you moves through your backlog. And if you don't have a backlog, how long do you give a game to capture your interest before it gets moved to the discard pile?

I've recently turned 40, and I simply can't devote as much time to games as I once did. I still play 8-10 hours per week, but that isn't nearly enough time to burn through my backlog. One of my business associates starting giving a game 1 hour to win him over. Once he started doing that, he cut his backlog in half.

I can see that for some games, but not strategy titles or RPGs. He disagrees. A developer has one hour to prove their concept.
95  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Age of Decadence on: October 22, 2015, 03:38:31 AM

Quote from: Tokek on October 21, 2015, 12:45:40 PM

Quote from: Arnir on October 18, 2015, 09:48:15 PM

I see this one is now released.  Any thoughts?

I see the reviews either praise or damn the game for it's combat difficulty.  I dl'ed the demo and I can't beat the tutorial fighter even changing up gear, etc., but I'm not a power gamer and could be missing something obvious.

The game is hard, and combat is even harder. I think that's the way the developer intended it, combat as a last resort.

Unfortunately, I haven't put in enough time on it to be able to even give a review.

I played the demo, and was impressed with the game. it's rather clunky, the graphics look like something out of Neverwinter Nights (albeit in a Roman environment) and the music is merely average. But I kept getting pulled back to the game to see what would happen next. I agree that combat is designed to be the option of last resort.
96  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Are any of you specifically playing horror games since its October? on: October 22, 2015, 03:34:07 AM
I just finished Until Dawn, and it was superb. If you enjoy horror themed games, and don't mind quick time events (with rather forgiving timing) definitely give it a try. It is one of the few games I've played in recent memory that made me want to go back and see what would have happened if I chose various alternate routes. In this game your branching decisions most definitely matter.

I was about to start The Evil Within, especially since I just purchased a new OLED TV. However, my friend is trying to convince me to play Corpse Party on the PSP. Someone else is adamant that I play Amnesia.

97  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (10/13) on: October 19, 2015, 12:43:06 AM

Quote from: Gratch on October 18, 2015, 11:18:02 PM

I ended up grabbing both the Uncharted Collection and Dragon Age GOTY Edition (includes all the DLC) yesterday. 

I'm intrigued by that new Dragon Quest game, but not sure it's worth full price for a genre I've never really tried before.

I agree. I love Dragon Quest, but I'm not very fond of the Dynasty Warriors franchise. The game is getting solid reviews, but every time I've attempted to play Dynasty Warriors the button mashing invariably becomes a chore. My friends love the series, and call me an elitish snob because I prefer Romance of the Three Kingdoms. ninja
98  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Not sure what to do with my MacBook Pro on: October 15, 2015, 09:15:16 AM

Quote from: Crusis on October 14, 2015, 11:41:53 PM

Pick up a new Macbook and add one of these for $159 bucks for the 256 Gig. I've had one in my Macbook Pro Retina for over a year and it's a great drive.

I have the exact same thing for my Macbook Pro. Works flawlessly. I have all of my music stored on it.
99  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I will no longer grind for certain achievements. on: October 14, 2015, 10:26:44 AM
Achievement? What?
100  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC] Wasteland 2 on: October 13, 2015, 06:43:18 PM
They are supposed to add Xbox/Ps4 controller upport to the PC version of the director's cut. I'm ecstatic to hear about that, as I love playing these types of games curled up in from of the couch on a large screen TV.
101  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Are any of you specifically playing horror games since its October? on: October 13, 2015, 10:07:00 AM
I started playing Until dawn first, and it is much better than I anticipated. I'm pleased to see that it sold above expectations, and the developer is planning a new game. Hopefully, they can bridge the minor instances of uncanny valley in the next game.
102  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Are any of you specifically playing horror games since its October? on: October 10, 2015, 02:16:33 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on October 09, 2015, 10:29:34 PM

Quote from: farley2k on October 09, 2015, 08:51:06 PM

I just can't take them.  They scare me  tear

Yeah, this is me as well.  Call me a wuss or whatever, I'm just not a fan of jump scares and all that kind of thing. 

It might be a good time to revisit Costume Quest for those of us who aren't big on scares.

Having said that, I watched the Giant Bomb playthrough of Until Dawn and that seemed like a good horror game if you're into that sort of thing.  Very much follows the Quantic Dreams and Telltale method of mostly quicktime events and trying to make your actions seem to affect the outcome.

I forgot about Until Dawn, and its in my backlog. I may play that first.
103  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Are any of you specifically playing horror games since its October? on: October 10, 2015, 01:16:08 AM

Quote from: heloder on October 09, 2015, 10:11:14 PM

For me, October is merely the start of a six month long horror marathon of books, movies, and video games. This is also the time of year I prefer to get into the classic isometric CRPGs of old. And the incomparable Dwarf Fortress—a game about shelter and ever-present peril makes perhaps the ultimate cold-weather game. I keep my house in the 50s during Winter generally, and I just love curling up and devouring this stuff with some hot chocolate or tea.

You keep your house temperature in the 50s?? My friends think I'm crazy to set the temp at 68!

As for Dwarf Fortress, I've never tried it, but heard excellent things. But, damn.....those, er "graphics". It looks like computer generated pointillism.

104  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Are any of you specifically playing horror games since its October? on: October 09, 2015, 07:14:50 PM
I have this ritual where I try to save up my horror games for Halloween. This year it is The Evil Within, and possibly Soma if there is time. For you WiiU owner, Fatal Frame: Maiden of the Black Water arrives on their digital store. The Fatal Frame series has some excellent scares, and is a very underrated series.

Anyone else enjoy playing horror games during the month of October?
105  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Telltale Games pulled from iOS app store? on: October 09, 2015, 06:08:14 PM
I've noticed that I can no longer access many of Telltale's games on the iOS app store. For example, The walking Dead season 1, The walking Dead Season 2, Hector, Puzzle Agent, etc are all missing from the ipad and iphone lists. When I search via the publisher name, only Game of Thrones and Tales from the Borderlands appear.

Are they pulling their library off the app store?
106  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rise of Tomb Raider on: October 09, 2015, 06:01:17 PM
Every since DLC became the next big thing in gaming, I've stopped purchasing titles until the inevitable Game of the Year edition. Borderlands, Batman, Dragon Age, etc. I refuse to pay $80-$100 for a game, especially since DLC can't be traded in like the standard game.
107  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Time to research home theater speakers? on: October 08, 2015, 11:53:21 AM
High quality lower level=Klipsch
Higher quality mid level=Paradigm

Also, there are some fantastic soundbar/subwoofer combinations out there. I'm surprised how far the technology has gone.
108  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC/Ps4] Soma on: September 29, 2015, 08:58:30 AM

Quote from: Crawley on September 28, 2015, 12:58:47 AM

Still playing through it. Get about an hour in a night or so.

I have to say the monster AI is kinda annoying. There's been a few areas where the monster pops up after a few seconds of entering a room. Then you gotta wait 15-20 seconds for it to go away so you can move on - but sometimes it comes right back and you gotta wait again. The first few times it was scary but now it's become a major annoyance of how they stick on you. You can't explore at all when they're on you like that.

But still enjoying the game overall despite the complaints I've made.

Is it as bad as Alien: isolation? Despite the developers stating that the AI wasn't scripted, somehow the Alien was always within the same exact part of the ship as me within 30 seconds to 1 minute. It made exploring an exercise in frustration.
109  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (9/22) on: September 21, 2015, 07:48:40 PM
I'm surprised there isn't more interest around the release of Soma. If you enjoy horror games, you should absolutely take a closer look at this title. It is getting fabulous reviews:
110  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamer motivation survey on: September 14, 2015, 06:59:22 PM
I came out with the worst social factor among all of the forum members. A whopping 1 percent. That sounds about right. The  first question I ask when a new MMO is released: "Can I effectively play the game like a single player game?" Lol.
111  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gamer motivation survey on: September 12, 2015, 07:58:26 PM
I absolutely REFUSE to take your "test". You can't quantify me! I won't be pigeon-holed, typecast, codified, analyzed or assessed. This is just another example of THE MAN trying to put us in our place, telling us who we are! Well, I'm shaking the bird cage!
112  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: 4K gaming on: September 04, 2015, 10:50:10 PM
On the HTPC front,

4K OLEDs are falling into my price range, so I'm very tempted to grab one for my PC gaming. But I still think we are one graphics card refresh away from where we need to be. An overclocked Nvidia 980ti still struggles in many instances unless you are SLI. Im waiting for a single card solution.

I'm also concerned about how XB1 and PS4 games will look on a 4K TV. I cant imagine it will look as good as a native resolution TV. I still recall how horrible DVDs/games looked when on a 1080p plasma, even after being upscaled.

I certainly don't think alot of AA is necessary at 4K, so that can be burned down. But many of the other bells and whistles found in the ultra settings add dramatically to a game's immersion, and they can be very GPU intensive.
113  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mad Max - open world game from Avalanche on: September 04, 2015, 10:44:56 PM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on September 03, 2015, 01:52:33 PM

I've seen what this looks like on a high-end PC and was wondering... how is it on a PS4? Anyone playing there and can comment on that version?

I've seen it on the PS4 via my neighbor, but I own it on the PC, ultra settings. The PS4 looks excellent. To me the differences seem to be:

1) better framerate on PC
2) PS4 seems to be High settings, as opposed to Very High or Ultra

You cant go wrong with the PS4 version.
114  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mad Max - open world game from Avalanche on: September 02, 2015, 07:53:43 PM

Quote from: Crawley on September 02, 2015, 07:43:02 PM

Was only able to finished the first four missions yesterday but also have a positive impression initially. We'll see as it goes on. But yeah it seems like most of the reviewers were being pretty harsh - maybe coming off the Warner Bro's negativity from the Arkham Knight PC version.

And although it isn't a new phenomenon there seemed to be quite a lot of posters on the Steam forums reveling in the negative reviews that were initially coming out.

I agree. steam users in multiple discussions seem to be falling into group think scenarios.

I'm only one hour in, but I thought that first hour was fantastic. And considering that area is basically a tutorial, I'm hoping for a great game overall. I was worried about the desert being bland, but they did a good job mixing it up.

The main questions are can the car combat stay entertaining for 20 hours, and will the side missions all be cookie cutter or will a portion of them be memorable.

My lazy, cliched unfulfilled wish- I wish the mechanic had been an attractive female, instead of chum bucket. When I'm stuck carrying someone around the wasteland in the back of my ride, I prefer they look like the ladies from Fury
115  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (8/25) on: August 24, 2015, 05:36:23 AM

Quote from: TiLT on August 24, 2015, 04:28:01 AM

I would normally be all over Until Dawn on the PS4, which looks awesome from all accounts. However, I'm swamped in games already and need to deal with what I've already got. Until Dawn will have to wait.

I'm in the same situation. My backlog in Steam is over 250 games. That doesn't include consoles, handhelds, or ios. Until Dawn, the Gears remake, and Satellite Reign are all on my radar. I picked up warhammer in early access.
116  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4/PC] Galak-Z The Dimensional on: August 09, 2015, 10:20:44 PM

Quote from: Gratch on August 08, 2015, 08:55:09 PM

Thanks for the review today.  Looks like this will be yet another game that goes on the "looks really cool but far too frustrating" pile for me.  frown

You and I share many of the same interests in games. And while I am enjoying Galak Z, I think I am also more willing to slog through frustration. The fighter reminds me of Battlestar Galactica, and it has the same type of front, back and side thrusters you see in that program. There is definitely a learning curve, and I would prefer my weapons be on the trigger buttons instead of the face buttons. More than once I've had an enemy dead in my sights, and then I tapped afterburner instead of fire weapon. In battles this frantic, that is a huge mistake.

I'm certain I'll acclimate, but the first time I die from it I'm going to be very pissed off.
117  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Swindle - 2D procedural heist game on: August 09, 2015, 10:11:01 PM
A lot of steam reviews speak of substandard, sluggish controls. Is that hyperbole, or an accurate representation?  Also, how is the story?

I love these types of games, so my interest is still high.
118  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Swerve or Stay In Your Lane? on: July 27, 2015, 03:06:43 AM

Quote from: Ironrod on July 27, 2015, 01:24:12 AM

Yeah, it's too situational to answer that. If the lanes next to me were clear I'd move; if not, I wouldn't. Definitely wouldn't stop or brake hard on a busy freeway, though.

I tend to swerve first, and THEN look in the lane next to me....

I'm amazed that every one of the ducks made it. If you watch the very end of the video, a much larger surge of traffic passes just as the family makes it to the other side. Lucky, lucky.
119  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Swerve or Stay In Your Lane? on: July 26, 2015, 11:46:22 PM
Watch this crazy video. What would you do? Swerve, or continue on your path?

I would have swerved, and probably gotten myself killed!
120  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Women in combat on: July 25, 2015, 02:18:08 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on July 24, 2015, 09:06:38 PM

Does anyone else want to walk Dante Rising through the fact that the Republican and Democratic parties swapped social ideologies midway through the 20th century, beginning with the New Deal and culminating with the Civil Rights Act?  He seems reasonable and earnest enough to be worth the effort but I'm trying to finish off a couple daily quests before tonight.
-Autistic Angel

Ha! This is why I love being a gamer. It reminds me of the time I was discussing politics with a friend while fighting a very difficult boss in Dark Souls. In frustration I eventually turned to him and said, pointed to the TV and said, "Mike, can this discussion wait until tomorrow? I'm getting dismantled over here..."

I'm well aware of the changing landscapes of the of the parties, then and more recently. I've had that discussion all the way through how Regan could not lead the modern GOP and Kennedy could not lead the modern Democratic party, despite the parties hypocritically using both men as billboards to forward their political desires. But not the governing philosophies, of course.

My point regarding the Republican voting record was to drill further into the history of those men, as many of them were quite conservative in philosophy. It was not directed strictly to Republican/Democratic governance of the time. And please note I'm referring to the more progressive American conservatism, obviously not the same thing as European conservatism, which was more concerned with aristocracy, restoring pre-revolution tradition almost a century later, and a greater focus or hierarchical rule. (Or, of course, you may subscribe to the meanderings of Amrose Bierce, who defined conservatism as “a person who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others.” smile  )

And regarding Rush, I view him through the same prism as Mike Malloy, who has stated wonderful things such as:

“These teabag bastards, who by the way, I just wish they would all go away, or like in Passover, I just wish there was an angel of the Lord that would pass over, instead of killing the first born in all the households of Egypt, just wipe out all the teabaggers. Just, you know, the terrible swift sword, just (Malloy emulates sound of sword cutting repeatedly through the air) lop their heads off.”


"You're average Republican wants slaves back in the cotton fields, and women stricken of their right to vote." He then mildly commented that only one half of that statement was true, but he would let his audience decide which part was which.

I periodically listen to Rush's rhetoric simply to marvel at how one man has been given so much power by both his fans and his enemies. And he actually does makes sense at times...until he jumps the shark. But I suppose to be equitable I can say that of Mike Malloy and Michael Moore also.

As I mentioned earlier, I wish I had more time for these conversations. My point of all of these long-winded posts was just this- Conservatism is not one ideology, one group of talking heads, or one monolithic movement. I become frustrated when people point a finger at Rush and assume he IS the Conservative movement. (And I'm not suggesting Autistic Angel was defining it as such, but it seemed to be moving in that direction from an earlier post.)
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